Just my thoughts, what do the rest of you think?
I think it would be a somewhat interesting concept. It could work with the proper detail. But it couldn't be an over night thing.
-I do not want the job. Been there, done that.
Come on Karsy, your people need you.
But yeah, I think it would make a great novel trilogy. Maybe bring back Clayton Emery to write it. I always loved his portrayal of Karsus from his Netheril trilogy.
Come on Karsy, your people need you.
-My people!? You, all on these boards, are my people! You are all more important to me than filling in the void of deity of magic!
-My people!? You, all on these boards, are my people! You are all more important to me than filling in the void of deity of magic!
In other words, you just want to be sure we all worship you before you take up the mantle.
:whatsthis
In other words, you just want to be sure we all worship you before you take up the mantle.
:whatsthis
-That'd just be super.
But, hey. Roll with it. There's always got to be an objective side to things someplace.
I already thought he was in servitude to Corellon: Elven history
Oh! Ooh! Can't wait for this one! :D
-I do not want the job. Been there, done that.
Well, just an instant is enough for Karsus to be the god of magic?
I can tell you that, for me, Corellon should be considered now the god of magic (as in core 4th D&D).
Well, just an instant is enough for Karsus to be the god of magic?
I can tell you that, for me, Corellon should be considered now the god of magic (as in core 4th D&D).
One could also argue that it should be Selune, since she was the origin of the weave in the first place (well, her and Shar really).
I had it in my mind that he was the reason the Plague hit and it had nothing to do with the death of Mystra. She died twice abd there was no catastrophe this great. Perhaps that was because during the ToT the Realms was already experiencing a mini spell plague and during Mystryl's death that was only for a few minutes. I also noted that they say that scholars think that Mystras death was the reason for the plague, but the books don't really give a definite answer. At least not one I saw so it is up to the DM to play with that aspect.
-I do not want the job. Been there, done that.
That would make it even more interesting! :P
No, seriously, Karsus always felt more human to me than many other Realms characters, simply because he was very human and understandable in his quest to push further.
Such a deity could be quite interesting! Especially if he feels "survivor" guilt and got a little bit mad (I assume stuff like this can happed after being "stoned" for centuries) - and his interaction and views on the Shades could be interesting as well.
Cheers, LT.
But I dislike the idea of a god having any sort of control over arcane magic, and I'm glad we have a Mystra free Realms now.
If wizards wanted to have anything to do with the gods, they'd go to Sunday school and become clerics.
If we absolutely had to have a god of magic, I like that idea.
But I dislike the idea of a god having any sort of control over arcane magic, and I'm glad we have a Mystra free Realms now.
If wizards wanted to have anything to do with the gods, they'd go to Sunday school and become clerics.
No more mystic theurge, sadly. Those were amazingly fun to RP.
If we absolutely had to have a god of magic, I like that idea.
But I dislike the idea of a god having any sort of control over arcane magic, and I'm glad we have a Mystra free Realms now.
If wizards wanted to have anything to do with the gods, they'd go to Sunday school and become clerics.
I was more thinking that he would be the god of magic users and not the god of magic. I tend to think of magic kind of like an element and agree that there should be no god of magic. I wish they had kept Azuth around because he actually was the god of magic users.....I'm trying not to go off on a rant about that bad decision.
That would make it even more interesting! :P
No, seriously, Karsus always felt more human to me than many other Realms characters, simply because he was very human and understandable in his quest to push further.
Such a deity could be quite interesting! Especially if he feels "survivor" guilt and got a little bit mad (I assume stuff like this can happed after being "stoned" for centuries) - and his interaction and views on the Shades could be interesting as well.
Cheers, LT.
Karsus was not trying to "push forward", his goal was not godhood because he felt it was his due. He did it because his Nation was under assault from the Phaerrim, and the gods of Netheril weren't acting to save them, so he took matters into his own hands.
Wasn't the Karse stone tied to the S. Weave somehow.
-No. The only connection it has to Shar is that she stole it from Cyric's Chosen in the Return of the Archwizards trilogy. Nothing ever came from that.
But I dislike the idea of a god having any sort of control over arcane magic, and I'm glad we have a Mystra free Realms now.
-A deity of magic, in theory, doesn't need to have control over it, as in dictating who and who can not use it.
Karsus was not trying to "push forward", his goal was not godhood because he felt it was his due. He did it because his Nation was under assault from the Phaerrim, and the gods of Netheril weren't acting to save them, so he took matters into his own hands.
-Correct. The only reason the spell was cast in the first place, when it was cast, was because of the disappearance of Ioulaum, and the sudden panic that gripped High Netherese society because of it.
-Correct. The only reason the spell was cast in the first place, when it was cast, was because of the disappearance of Ioulaum, and the sudden panic that gripped High Netherese society because of it.
Well, that's probably tinted by my own views - but similar to his research in heavy magic, I see it as a push, similar to the way the USA pushed the Manhattan Project. Sure, it was forced and partially a decision made out of fear - but going forward this boldly cannot be a purely fear-inspired reaction, but also one of belief in (arcane) progress (though it's somewhat expected, considering Netheril's arcane inclinations).
Cheers, LT.
One could also argue that it should be Selune, since she was the origin of the weave in the first place (well, her and Shar really).
Exactly. When you want to create a light for every dark in the Realms, then this should have been the way. And, with Mystra being a result of the clash between the two, you could easily find a better explanation for how things stand as they are.
-Well, suffice to say, that if Karsus did not intend on possessing the power of a deity, he would have researched and written a spell that solved Netheril's problems in another way.
Anthropology 101 has concluded. Class dismissed.
Anthropology 101 has concluded. Class dismissed.
-Don't be late for Theology 101. Or Physics 101.
-Don't be late for Theology 101. Or Physics 101.
Reminding people that Summer is over? (So glad I graduated years ago, and don't have to stress about all that anymore
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