Moonsea region novels?

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#1

ordenrahl

Jan 28, 2009 4:17:41
Anyone know the titles of any moonsea regional novels? I've just read "Blades of the moonsea" but It is set in the 4th ed. timeline and I'm looking for something that is 3.5 or earlier.

Thanks!
#2

quale1

Jan 28, 2009 4:55:16
The Pools trilogy
#3

markustay63

Jan 28, 2009 11:30:41
Since Rich Baker's The Swordmage is part of the Blades of Moonsea series, I'm pretty certain it, and the rest of that serties, does indeed take place in the Moonsea area. :P

There is a single paragraph in Once around the Realms that takes place in the Moonsea region as well, concerning one or two cities, and a slaving operation and Harper involvment.
#4

iakhovas

Jan 28, 2009 16:05:10
Mage in the Iron Mask takes place in Mulmaster.
Final Gate, the third novel in the Last Mythal trilogy provides some great scenes in Hillsfar and
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depicts the fall of First Lord Maalthiir and the dissolution of the Red Plumed Guards
#5

markustay63

Jan 28, 2009 16:23:39
Unless that was a typo, I'm assuming the Iron Mage is female? :D
#6

rinonalyrna_fathomlin

Jan 28, 2009 16:24:46
I'm sure he meant Mage in the Iron Mask.
#7

iakhovas

Jan 28, 2009 16:53:29
Oops. Thanks for the correction Lyrna. Can I call you Lyrna?
#8

merrikcale

Jan 28, 2009 19:33:51
Since Rich Baker's The Swordmage is part of the Blades of Moonsea series, I'm pretty certain it, and the rest of that serties, does indeed take place in the Moonsea area. :P

Hulburg for the most part
#9

rinonalyrna_fathomlin

Jan 29, 2009 9:10:27
Oops. Thanks for the correction Lyrna. Can I call you Lyrna?

Yes you may.
#10

markustay63

Jan 29, 2009 10:41:34
Both of you realize I was just being an idiot, right? :P

I've been trying to curb my 'inner pest', but sometimes I can't help myself, especialy when I see a set-up like that. :D

So, was that novel any good? (And Brian, you obviously don't have to answer that).
#11

rinonalyrna_fathomlin

Jan 29, 2009 13:28:15
Both of you realize I was just being an idiot, right? :P

Yeah, but I didn't think it would hurt to mention the correct title of the book.
#12

Diffan

Jan 31, 2009 14:57:47
So, was that novel any good? (And Brian, you obviously don't have to answer that).

Honestly, I rather enjoyed it. Besides things taking place post-spellplague, the characters seem to have some depth and I liked the overall plot. Also, while reading it I had no idea what the Swordmage was capable of, and after seeing it's writeup in the FRPG, it made me like the novel even more.

Though I am bias because I like 4e, the changes to the Realms, and Rich Baker's novels. So take from that what you will.
#13

markustay63

Feb 03, 2009 15:07:18
Mage in the Iron Mask was post-spellplague?
#14

msatran

Feb 03, 2009 15:25:22
It might as well have been. It holds the singular distinction of being the most horrible rip-off ever, as well.

They hardly even change the names. This IS the Prisoner of Zenda, word for word, practically. It's the most colossal ball of monkey cheese. If I owned the rights to Prisoner of Zenda, I would have sued Wizards as soon as they owned the rights to this ball of garbage.

"I know...we'll set the Prisoner of Zenda here, in a place where it couldn't possibly happen, with tons of people who should have had influence on the action who shouldn't, and where everyone he does use acts completely out of character! Good job!"

Really, it's the most vile form of plagiarism/adaptation ever performed upon a classic. I loved the Prisoner of Zenda as a child. This novel should have been called "Poisoner of Zenda." At least if you're going to rip something off, have the decency to admit you're doing it.
#15

markustay63

Feb 03, 2009 17:00:11
Worse then the Watercourse trilogy?

Or the obvious Krull rip-off that was Obsidion Ridge?

Truy, the 'font of inspiration' hath run dry at WotC.

Then again, they have stooped to stealing plots from comic-books, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
#16

Diffan

Feb 03, 2009 18:37:38
Mage in the Iron Mask was post-spellplague?

Sorry for the confusion, I was referring to Swordmage.
#17

msatran

Feb 03, 2009 22:10:23
Worse then the Watercourse trilogy?

Or the obvious Krull rip-off that was Obsidion Ridge?

Truy, the 'font of inspiration' hath run dry at WotC.

Then again, they have stooped to stealing plots from comic-books, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

The Watercourse Trilogy can be explained away. Objectivism doesn't work in a magical world, but darn, at least stylistically, it was a good attempt. I hate Ayn Rand, but Objectivism can't function in a world where people can cast spells.

Plus...simply idolizing Ayn Rand and writing novels in that style isn't the same as stealing the entire plot of a swashbuckling classic, the title of a different swashbuckling classic, and putting them in a blender. The Watercourse Trilogy at least has differences. The Mage in the Iron Mask has none.
#18

lord_karsus

Feb 04, 2009 9:03:49
It might as well have been. It holds the singular distinction of being the most horrible rip-off ever, as well.

-Maztica, anyone?
#19

rinonalyrna_fathomlin

Feb 04, 2009 10:22:04
Really, it's the most vile form of plagiarism/adaptation ever performed upon a classic.

Haven't read MitIM, but I have read the Watercourse trilogy, and everything you said pretty much echoes my feelings on that particular series...
#20

msatran

Feb 05, 2009 7:16:04
I mean, it's hard for it not to be plagiarism when they don't even change the names.

Somewhere, The Prisoner of Zenda shudders in his grave.
#21

crossroads_wanderer

Feb 05, 2009 22:05:58
I mean, it's hard for it not to be plagiarism when they don't even change the names.

Somewhere, The Prisoner of Zenda shudders in his grave.

I've never read that book. Who wrote it?
#22

msatran

Feb 06, 2009 4:45:21
http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0141033746/ref=sib_dp_pt#reader-link

It is VIRTUALLY the same story. They didn't change a thing.
#23

markustay63

Feb 06, 2009 16:40:14
Talk about rip-offs.

Aren't there laws against this sort of thing?

Well, I suppose if they can copy the Encyclopedia Brittanica and call it a 'Maztica Sourcebook', they can get away with anything.

It just amazes me that you can copy someone else's work and claim it as your own.

Or that you can even stand to look at yourself in the mirror after doing so...
#24

lord_karsus

Feb 08, 2009 21:19:30
Aren't there laws against this sort of thing?

-Depends on specificity, intent, and a bunch of other things.
#25

msatran

Feb 11, 2009 17:11:41
You can do anything with this stuff once it's in the public domain. You can write an alternative series of Oz books and if they're good, they'll publish them, because Oz is in the public domain.

Same thing for Alice in Wonderland. (Working on a creepy novel called Alison L that pretty much uses this concept)
#26

markustay63

Feb 12, 2009 16:34:35
Alice was best used in the wonderful Riverworld series, which I will remember fondly, but will no longer be able to re-read...

Because I was stupid enough to lend them out.

Anyway, I highly recommend that series to anyone who likes a good yarn that reads like fantasy, but is painted on a VERY mild background of SciFi.

And the part where the Nazis throw Jesus in a concentration camp because he's Jewish... Priceless!

I love books that point-out how stupid human beings can be.