adu'ja (plant race from Dragon #317 plus few houserule improvements, more racial levels and plant-like abilities) binder
musteval guardinal illumian (modified as a template, Deneir's blessing) cleric
faerie dragon (with modified racial levels) spirit shaman
varoot (from Field Folio, kamerel/nerra, with racial levels, mirror-reflective-like abilities) swordsage (my character)
nathri half-ghost elf (also modified) rogue
before that I've allowed
vaati (2e converted, younger) psychic warrior
nycaloth (disguised, assassin)
doppelganger voidmind (template from MM3) rogue
wild dwarf half-fey druid
maug (construct from Fiend Folio) fire-souled (template from Dragon #314) cleric of Kossuth
Spirit Folk (Bamboo) Samurai
-As a Player, the most exotic thing I've played was:
Svirfneblin Sorcerer
svirfneblin also, they have too high LA, it's dificult to play, I'd use different racial levels and feats
The most Exotic thing I have allowed was a Yuan-Ti Halfblood or a Werelion.
we had an entire yuan-ti party, with different bloodlines and grafts, but that's not that exotic, lycanthropes are nice, there was a werepanther once I think, back in 2E, and lythari of course
I'd like to play a minotaur, a thri-kreen, or a deep gnome sometime in the future. Is there a racial class for deep gnomes anywhere?
Allowed - Ogre Magi (in an 'all-monster party' that included a Wemic and a Minotaur)
In 3E, I think the most exotic thing I've played was a Human. Can't seem to shake my addiction to bonus Feats... Oh wait, there was a Daelkyr Half-Blood Warlock in an RPGA game.
PLUS SPIKES.
In 3E, I think the most exotic thing I've played was a Human. Can't seem to shake my addiction to bonus Feats...
-Same here. The last...three or four characters I've made, they've been Humans.
Allowed an Awakened Wolverine once
Seen someone play a human ghost once
As a DM: No Idea! :P possibly a sand giant Reaping Mauler
Allowed: half-celestial pixie(with ottoluke's dance) paladin lvl1, ecl 11. man that character was annoying.
I'd like to play a minotaur, a thri-kreen, or a deep gnome sometime in the future. Is there a racial class for deep gnomes anywhere?
you can find it here
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/sp/20040213a
we have a whole houserule system with LAs, quite different
The primary characters I've played, from 2E on, in continuous campaigns: a Fairy Elf (Grey Elf), a human, an Aasimar, a Tiefling, a Fire Genasi, the above-mentioned Celestial, a human, a human, a human...
And I was known as the guy who wanted the WEIRD characters.
you can find it here
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/sp/20040213a
we have a whole houserule system with LAs, quite different
Oi! Thanks.
Allowed an Awakened Wolverine once
-I wanted to play an Awakened Bear Sorcerer, once. My DM said no. I had a cool story, too, that tied into our recent campaign that ended.
-I wanted to play an Awakened Bear Sorcerer, once. My DM said no. I had a cool story, too, that tied into our recent campaign that ended.
In my Freeport campaign, one of the NPCs is 'Blackie,' a familiar that outlived it's master (actually, he's just incommunicado, thanks to an Imprisonment spell), and has picked up a level of Sorcerer. Blackie runs a spy network. Nobody expects the talking bird to run the spy network...
Nobody expects the talking bird to run the spy network...
-I know I wouldn't. Hmm...That gives me an interesting idea, for my own campaign.
M&M BTW, was a game based on the T&T rules system (Tunnels & Trolls), except you played the pillaging, rampaging monsters, rather then the adventurers (who were the NPCs).
Goodtimes... goodtimes...
Anyhow, the strangest thing that I've ever played was a Firbolg - I had just finished reading the Twilight Giants trilogy, and the Giantcraft sourcebook, so I was in the mood, you know?
Funny thing... my bro-in-law was an inexperienced DM, and he allowed me to pick and choose what to use from ANY official sourcebook, which allowed me to min-max the hell out of the guy and create an unstoppable Barbarian Shamen Runesmith Jugernaught!
He also gave me a ring that made me appear as a large human, rather then a giant. However, it didn't really change my height and weight, only the way I looked, which lead to some amusing situations.
I also had a 100% legal Dwarf Wizard... back in 2e! I surprised quite a few of my fellow players with that one... too bad he isn't interesting AT ALL anymore.
(I almost ran a campaign where the characters were going to think they were alive but were really Spectres and were on a cursed ghost ship but I have not had the time to do it.)
Played: A Voadkyn (in 2Ed). A Thrikreen (Dark Sun 2ed). A Mul (Dark Sun 2ed). A Drow.
I really haven't played that much. I'm mway more often behind the DM screen.
Allowed
-Malenti cleric of Mystra (you know, those sahuagin mutants that look just like sea elves on the outside). Mind you, it was in an underwater campaign in a party along with a merfolk sorcerer, a sea elf ranger, and a shalarin psychic warrior.
-Draegloth and gravetouched ghoul half-drow in an Underdark drow campaign, along with three drow.
I have no problem with unusual races, but only in campaigns where they'd fit the concept. Most of the times, players have to pick something from the PHB or campaign setting, or else have a good background explaining how the character fits in the campaign. The most exotic the race is compared to the campaign, the better the explanation background will have to me.
But I did play some - and my msot exotic character was Fey'Ri sorcerer.
Right now, Im dming for gith monk/psionic a drow spellthief, a genasi and a human necromancer, I guess thats the most exotic setup Ive dmed for.
-Fey'ri fighter/rogue/assasin
-Half celestial monk/paladin
My group once palyed a short campaign in which all of us were Celestials trying to serve different gods in the blood war. I was a movanic Deva.
As player: Uthgart (ice dragon bloodline) Sorceror from the Black Lion tribe turned Silverymoon college student/gentleman.
-As a DM, I don't allow really exotic races. It is my opinion that such races make the game harder for the DM, and other players. Does anyone else agree? Disagree?
I agree to certain extent:
In general I don't allow things like half-fiend mind fllayer monk/ duskblade/wizard/eldritch knight/spellsword
or
a blink dog ninja. I think it kind of ruins the fun for me.
Also,unless the idea is to DM for a group of pc freaks ( planescape campaign for example), I rarely allow more than one or two exotic character in the party.
example of exotic characters I would allow:
Planetouched in general
Some templates, like lycanthropes
Avariel and other easy-to-use, intelligent flying creatures
orcs, hobgoblins, half ogre, kobolds, spiritfolk, etc
Githyankis and Githzerais
-As a DM, I don't allow really exotic races. It is my opinion that such races make the game harder for the DM, and other players. Does anyone else agree? Disagree?
I say, as always, whatever floats your boat.
Although, I was just curious about how exotic races make the game harder for the other players.
Although, I was just curious about how exotic races make the game harder for the other players.
-If you have a race that has, say an ECL of +2, that character is effectivley two levels higher than everyone else. As a DM, to balance things, you need to toughen the encounters you throw at the players, because of this. If a Half-Dragon can kill all four Orcs with a single breath attack, that's not much of an encounter. The Half-Dragon can't kill all four Ogres, but that makes the encounter harder for everyone else who is not the Half-Dragon.
-If you have a race that has, say an ECL of +2, that character is effectivley two levels higher than everyone else. As a DM, to balance things, you need to toughen the encounters you throw at the players, because of this. If a Half-Dragon can kill all four Orcs with a single breath attack, that's not much of an encounter. The Half-Dragon can't kill all four Ogres, but that makes the encounter harder for everyone else who is not the Half-Dragon.
OK, I see that, thanks for clarifying.
It seems to me like there's also a risk of the exotic character "stealing the thunder" of the other, not-so-exotic player characters.
It seems to me like there's also a risk of the exotic character "stealing the thunder" of the other, not-so-exotic player characters.
-Oh, yeah, of course, that too!
I wasn't allowed play a tiefling until we were level 2, to make an example for the first limitation. And no aquatic elves in a Thay-based campaign, for the second one.
Since my characters tend to die frequently in my current group, I'm the one that has tried a few variations. Fey'ri is the next character.
(most of my party is usually scared of everything. I'm not running headlong to peril itself, I just don't run before seeing if it's truly a danger... by that time, I'm all alone, be it for my benefit or doom. I'm bored to hell by general cowardice, so I can't really help it.)
Halfling werewolf rogue - Ravenloft... Nothing like being driven out of town by a mob of peasants!
that's legendaryIt seems to me like there's also a risk of the exotic character "stealing the thunder" of the other, not-so-exotic player characters.
yea, DM must try to make a non-exotic PC feel unique in some other way
But I have once played a Mind Flayer Sorcerer.
1) half-ogre
2) kolbold
3) lich
4) and a minataur
Where ever the party went, 80% of the time we were greeted by pikes and pitchers because of me...
So now it's Human all the way for me.
Allowed: kobold and orc (I'm a bit of a purist on the issue and was hesitant even to allow that).
- Hobgoblin Crusader of the Red Knight
- Wemic Cleric of Nobanion
1:
LN male Githzerai Monk/Fist of Zuoken.
LN female Catfolk Ranger.
CN male Drow Necromancer.
CN male Fey'ri Sorcerer.
2:
(His alignment changed widely and often) male Earth Genasi Barbarian.
CN male Aasimar Cleric of Anhur.
NE female Tiefling Rogue/Assassin.
CN male Sun Elf Wizard (a normal character? Nooo, he seemed more like he belonged to the mob rather than to Evereska).
3 (This was sent in pseudo-Greyhawk/core world):
LE male Hobgoblin Cleric/Fist of Hextor.
NE male Hobgoblin Fighter/Master of Chains.
CE male Minotaur Barbarian.
NE male Rakshasa Sorcerer.
Obviously this game didn't last long. Games that ridiculously broken rarely do, but it was worth the reaction when they discovered my trick.
a fey-touched half-drow wizard
a half-yugoloth half-guardinal sorceress
and briefly had a pheolarch fighter
I usually play something fairly prosaic (human, dwarf) and I rarely feel the need to go far afield.
Same here.
I probably play humans most often.http://www.dndonlinegames.com/showthread.php?t=61549&page=1&pp=15
As a player: Mineral Template Warforged Fighter/Barbarian. I was playing a "Shield Gaurdian" Who had somehow managed to get some semblance of sentience (Int:8) during the creation process.
Hrmm.... in an FR setting? A houseruled earth Genasi has to have been my favorite Character ever. Had 3 resistances, +1 NA, and a +2 bonus to hide and sense motive.
the most exotic balanced for regular play? A half-ogre fighter who was dumber than a sack of rocks but was a real softhearted fellow who'd been raised in a monastery of Lathander. A half-ogre named Harald. Best damn door opener i've ever played...
In the same campaign I had three odd ones:
a half-yugoloth half-guardinal sorceress
and briefly had a pheolarch fighter
those are interesting, I wonder how the yugoloth/guardinal abilities did balance
had a group of pheolarchs as NPCs, a small society in the Lake of Steam area, followers of Zaaman Rul
Oh, foolish us! What she turned out to be was my brother's excuse to cause as much chaos and disruption in the party as possible as she ignored all attempts at civilization, gleefully snacked on innocent townspeople, and left the party to make all explanations. He protested when I called for an alignment change to NE (C) until he started trying to play with, not against, everyone else, which later barred her from entering the temple they needed (no evil beings allowed!). The party left her outside on that nice sunny day... with all those angry peasants...
She wasn't missed, and neither was his presence at the table.
Half Song Dragon/Star Elf Bard
Deep Wyrm Drow Druid of Silvanus
Averiel Wizard/ Incantatrix
Lythari Fighter/Wizard/Bladesinger
Feytouch Scout
(I keep saying to myself this the last spellcaster I play with a LA...but I keep doing it to myself...)
I also want to play a Sea Elf at some point
I also had a Moon Elf Spellthief that got reincarnated as a Volodni( rolled a 100 on the percentage dice and that what was the DM choosed)
As a DM: I am generaly reasonable and willing to listewn to concepts and will allow most things that is not to outlandish.
-If you have a race that has, say an ECL of +2, that character is effectivley two levels higher than everyone else. As a DM, to balance things, you need to toughen the encounters you throw at the players, because of this. If a Half-Dragon can kill all four Orcs with a single breath attack, that's not much of an encounter. The Half-Dragon can't kill all four Ogres, but that makes the encounter harder for everyone else who is not the Half-Dragon.
It can be tough but I also notice it going the other way alot especialy when the other characters start gaining levels. Take the above example the 4 orgers will crush the Half dragon with ease after the breath weapon hits because he just doesn't have the HP to stand up the the damage they can produce because he is LA +3.(I.E. 3 levels down) Let not talk about what spells like Enveration do to poor LA characters either.
Personaly I don't mind it as a DM all that much. It makes the game fun after all to be challenged.
Most exotic races I've allowed in my games are drow, githzerai, spirit folk, and a half-demon elf. Also allowed a character to use the Frost Giant bloodlines from UA, another a star elf. I frequently use the "lesser" version of the drow," which none of my players are very interested in.
Oh wait, I had a player who played one of those tree-frog people too. Can't remember the names of them. That game didn't last very long though.
Allowed- Brass Dragon... yeah that was interesting
1/2 dwarf - 1/2 Red Dragon Barbarian (2nd ed before "Council of Wyrms")
Wemic - Shaman (2nd ed version of Shaman)
Lich (used "Reverse Dungeon" Template)
1/2 Giant - Samurai
DM
Drider
Take the above example the 4 orgers will crush the Half dragon with ease after the breath weapon hits because he just doesn't have the HP to stand up the the damage they can produce because he is LA +3.(I.E. 3 levels down) Let not talk about what spells like Enveration do to poor LA characters either.
-He then takes to the air, using his wings, and hovers or flies out of range, using a bow to fire at his enemies without being hit in return.
Unless the ogres just chuck something at dragon? Like, javelins. Or rocks.
-Presuming that the Ogre(s) have javelins and/or rocks, and that the Half-Dragon flies/hovers within their throwing range.
and a Quagoth bard
.... 'nuff said (it was a purple themed party)as a(n) (awesome) Player the most exotic thing I have been is a half-drow scout (constatly guarded by his half-fiend arachnoid quicksilver{which is probably the most exotic thing I have talked about} and his slightly smaller other lizard thing {he had a thing for lizards) with a few levels in druid
im usualy a gnome (never a human)
I Dmed a Champaign ...
You DMed champagne??? Woohoo! I wanna live in YOUR world!
I'm curious. The drow ranger part I get. What's "underdarkish"? (Mindflayer barbarian. I'd love to hear the backstory on that character!)
Most recently, I very nearly made up a Dhampir character for a game starting at Level 14. Dhampir's, incidentally, have Level Adjustment +8! So my character would've been 6th-level. Yeeowtch!
And how did the aboleth get around? And why didn't he just dominate the rest of the party?
-Maybe it did, and they all carried it around?
What's "underdarkish"?
I was wondering the same thing...
What's "underdarkish"?
-I am thinking it is a mundane race (probably Human), that dwells and operates primarily in or around the Underdark. Maybe I'm wrong, though.
-Maybe it did, and they all carried it around?
i just realised the amount of sexual innuendo that could be perceived in my previous post.
To those who do not know what one is: Think Odo from Star Trek: DS9 as well as being telepathic.
In their natural form they are a mass of multicolored goo I believe (been awhile since I saw the picture or read the description) and their ability is basically being able to shapechange at will as if they were 20th lvl sorcerers.
Average alignment is CN and they are known for their fondness of causing trouble.
The goo was their natural form. Did you miss the part where I said they could shapechange at will? They can be anything they want to be within the limits of the spell and be in that form indefinatly; changlings sound kinda boring in comparison.
Okay, educate me on these things, please. Do you mean you could look like a sofa or something if you wanted to*? That would come in handy when hiding! If that's the case, then yeah, they've got changelings beat all to pieces! (Hmm... must research these "phasms" for next game...)
*You wouldn't "lose" spare change in the sofa. The sofa actually picked your pocket!
I Dmed a Champaign in which my Brother was a Mindflayer barbarian w/ a purple worm mount:coolcthul . The rest of the party consisted of an abolith wizard:88E: , a drow underdarkish ranger
The Mindflayer was training to be an illithid body tamer, the Abolith was kicked out of its socienty for being true neutral, the drow was a rebel drow (
and not drizzt ) turned underdark guide (acheived by taking lvls in ranger), and... well... Crud I must have short term memory loss I forgot wat else I was going to say(Hmm... must research these "phasms" for next game...)
they're in the MM.
And how did the aboleth get around? And why didn't he just dominate the rest of the party?
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He...I mean It... was Introduced around half point through my game. when they got to a shallow undrerdark pool. He Initialy DID try to control them, but wasn't strong enough to single Handedly (or tenticaly) defeat the Purple worm.... He prety much stayed underwater. But with the main villian being a Kuo toa allied with his former leader (the one who kicked him out) that wasn't to bad. (he could cast breath water and so could the bard, and freedom of movement was also very popular w/ the party.:cool
Rebel drow that aren't Drizzt but are done well are rare indeed. I like Drizzt, but it's precisely because of that fact that I have made none of my oddball drow anything like him. None of my drow NPCs or DMPCs are angst-ridden, for example, and only one is a ranger. He spends time on the surface because he's fearless and doesn't care for the scary tales he was taught about the surface. He didn't get all dreamy eyed at his first sunrise a la Drizzt. He was more like "That's it? That's the big scary ball of fire? Pffft! Bring it on!" He can be fun to play as long as I remember "fearless" doesn't equal "stupid".
) 'cept the bard (unless you don't count constant humming as "roleplaying":headexplo ...:coolcthul