One could assume that the music would be somewhat similar to the one listened in the real-world cultures that are somehow reflected in Forgotten Realms, but is there canon about music? Because, unless there is, it'd be hard for me to imagine, say, typical svirfneblin music.
A wide selection of FR sourcebooks [mostly 2e -- for example Code of the Harpers and Aurora's Whole Realms Catalogue] provide some details on musical instruments, songs and oral traditions in the Realms. A number of specific song titles, which hint at specific examples of musical styles -- such as ballads -- in the Realms, like "The Cormyte's Boast" from Volo's Guide to Cormyr, have been collated in Krash's listing [found here]. Note however, that it is not "all-inclusive." During my own research of music in the Realms [for my proposed Compendium articles], I've discovered several titled songs that have not been mentioned on the listing.
As well, Ed has talked about songs and music [as well as some specific musical pieces] in his replies at Candlekeep -- specifically his '04, '05 and '06 replies.
Both music and musical items in the Realms are discussed in the 2e and 3e FRCS.
Ed gave us the "Music in the Realms" article in DRAGON #124.
The new Waterdeeep sourcebook has lore about New Olamn [as does Elaine's New Olamn article in DRAGON #335]. Elaine's novels -- Elfshadow and Elfsong -- are good resources regarding music and bards of the Realms generally.
Don't forget about the "evil" composer mentioned in Richard Lee Byers contribution to the Halls of Stormweather anthology -- 'Song of Chaos'. While it was his crafted music that originally led to all the reality-altering perceptions of the guests at the concert, the story also tells us a little about composing and music in general in the Realms.
As well, The Yellow Silk, provides some tidbits on the musical scene and some popular songs in both Spandeliyon and Shou Lung.
And finally, I'm presently in the process of compiling ALL the musical references noted throughout every officially published piece of Realmslore. I'm nowhere near done yet, but once it's completed, I'll make the PDF available at Candlekeep.
Elven Music is in credibly complex. Such tunes haunt those who listen, and leave them with a vague, unsatisfied yearning that can only be eliminated by more Elven music. It is because of this that there are actually few Elven Bards. Though others may find us arrogant for saying this, we keep our music to ourselves to allow others to enjoy their music, for if Elven music was played to a large group of others, they would be too transfixed to ever contemplate their own music again!
It is a widely known fact (at least, within communities of Tel’Quessir) that Humans, and other races learned what they know of music from Elves. Though what they normally produce is nothing but a pale shadow and poor imitation of our music, they continually strive for the ultimate musical experience, the sublime grandeur, which Elven music provides the listener. Many believe that this is why there are so many musicians who are dissatisfied with their own work- their own melodies can never compare to those of Elven music, and they therefore become discouraged, and often suicidal.
Elven songs are no less awe-inspiring than Elven music. Traditional songs of grief are often wordless acapella melodies, that stirs great emotion in those listening. Most find themselves in tears before the songs are anywhere near complete, for the grief and anguish contained in these songs actually transcend the Human experience and capacity of pain. It is said that those who hear Elven mourning rituals are never quite the same ever again. The sorrow these songs express often haunt the listeners for years, and often, even the rest of their lives.
On a more positive note, Elven songs of joy are quite uplifting. It is said that songs of joy can reinvigorate and brighten even the darkest of souls. There is a popular folktale that Wood Elves like to tell. Long ago, there was once a small community of Sy’Tel’Quessir who were threatened by a very evil Green Wyrm. The Green Wyrm was able to sneak to the outskirts of the Elven community, without being detected, for the Elves were celebrating. After only a few moments of listening to the songs of hope and joy the Green Wyrm simply flew away, having a new lease on life. Some say that the Green Wyrm was actually smiling as it flew away.
Some songs leave you wanting to hear them over and over. Ether because you've grown up to them, and hearing them reminds you of a time long ago... When everything seemed so much more simpler. Or maybe a song speaks out to your soul, touching a spot of you that leaving you feeling as though someone out there understands your pain, sorry, and loneliness. Then there are those songs, which leave you wanting to get up and dance. To enjoy the moment, and forget all of your worries, your cares. Leaving you knowing only peace and contentment.
No one race has the right to say they "invented" music. Each may have invented a different style of music, for truly, trying to compare a Dwarven jig to an Elven one is fool hardy. Each has it's own time and place. Even the Orc's own skill in music can be seen and heard in the throats of their own half-breed children, and even a few full bred Orc's.
Humans... Humans are one of the most strangest creatures in the Realms. Some of them picked up music on their own, in their tribes, others learned it in a tavern, from a Bard. We could spend all day trying to figure out where the Bard learned their art. In most Human Taverns, your as likely to walk in and hear a Dwarven or Halfling drinking song as you are to step in and hear an Elven song of Loss and Longing, or of Love. Humans take what they've heard, what they've learned, and try to make it as much of their own as they can while trying to keep the same purity about it that they feel in love with.
Sorry, I think that Elven outlook irritated me...
But do they really have to be so arrogant about it? Makes me think a Sun Elf wrote it...
-A Sun Elf did write it.
-A Sun Elf did write it.
That explains the arrogances... Why didn't the Sun Elf race get a lesson in humility again? Well... Being raised to believe that your race is the mortal perfection of the head patron in your pantheon could do that to a ego...
Being raised to believe that your race is the mortal perfection of the head patron in your pantheon could do that to a ego...
-Indeed, it can.
-Indeed, it can.
I have no use for arrogance of any kind...
Blast, off topic again.
Makes me think a Sun Elf wrote it... To true music lovers, all music can haunt a person.
Calling anyone a "true" adherent to aesthetic arts is "truly" a sign of arrogance. ;) It implies that one has some personal insight into artistic "truth," which is always subjective.
"He who humbles himself wished to be exalted."
Anyone who exalts me deserves a punch in the mouth. I can't even stand myself half the time.
Calling anyone a "true" adherent to aesthetic arts is "truly" a sign of arrogance. ;) It implies that one has some personal insight into artistic "truth," which is always subjective.
That's true... Maybe I should chose my words more carefully next time.
I can't even stand myself half the time.
-What an odd Paladin. Very atypical.
-What an odd Paladin. Very atypical.
Yeah, that's me in a nut shell.
Not a proper god, like, say, Torm, Tyr, or Nobanion.
Torm, Bahamut, Lathander and Nobanion = Axis of Ass Kicking
Well, he's a Paladin of Hoar.
Not a proper god, like, say, Torm, Tyr, or Nobanion.
5-1 you'd say that if I was a Paladin of Kelemvor. Though I was almost a Paladin of Sune... But no, I shall remain with the Doombringer. He needs a nut job Paladin like I to show the Realms that the Lord of Three Thunders isn't always dark and brooding. He has a sense of humor. No matter how warped.
Besides, Tyr annoys me every now and then.
Bahamut is cool. I used to REALLY love dragons - bought the Council of Wyrms and all. But I was always a fan of Falazure/Null/Chronepsis.
Kelemvor is fiction to me.
Bahamut is cool. I used to REALLY love dragons - bought the Council of Wyrms and all. But I was always a fan of Falazure/Null/Chronepsis.
Yeah, Bahamut might have been fun.
Why is Kelemvor fiction? I like his idea/image of "Death". Beats all of the evil deities out there who feel almost like clones of one another. Granted, I never saw Death as evil, only as another part of life. The beginning has a end after all.
People avoid death at almost all costs. The very fact that so many death gods in various mythologies (and I say many, not all, so there's no need for counterexamples - I'm plenty versed in mythology, and currently writing a paper on comparative mythology) ARE portrayed as "Evil" (even if it's soft Evil) obviously means that there's plenty of psychological precedent for it, across multiple types of cultures.
Then again, I see Hades as very different from Nerull, who is very different from Myrkul, who was very different from Jergal...
"Just another part of life" doesn't imply Neutrality. I really hate that stereotype.
People avoid death at almost all costs. The very fact that so many death gods in various mythologies (and I say many, not all, so there's no need for counterexamples - I'm plenty versed in mythology, and currently writing a paper on comparative mythology) ARE portrayed as "Evil" (even if it's soft Evil) obviously means that there's plenty of psychological precedent for it, across multiple types of cultures.
Then again, I see Hades as very different from Nerull, who is very different from Myrkul, who was very different from Jergal...
I always felt sorry for Hades... He just struck me as kinda tragic. As for the fear, of course. We humans fear what we do not understand. That has always been our nature, fear is a survival instinct. I've made my peace with Death long ago. Sure, it still scares me, but that's only because I don't know what's on the other side, or if there even is another side.
I don't care for the idea of machines keeping someone alive, even after we all know they are long gone. And starving a brain dead person to death is just cruel. Which is probably why I kind of admire Dr. Kevorkian. I'd take a quick, painless death over a long and drawn out one any day.
I'm also fine with live organ transplant. My whole family is. We're all of mind that "Hey, we'll be dead. We'll have no use for them anymore. Let someone who's still clinging to life and who needs them take them. If they live, great. If not, ah well. At least we can say we gave them a shot."
I liked Kelemvor the character. I hate him as a god.
I actually agree with all of the above, but it doesn't make me think that it's any less logical for Death Gods to be Evil - or at the very least a harsh LN, not the sad LG-dressed-up-as-LN that Kelemvor was.
I liked Kelemvor the character. I hate him as a god.
Kelemvor should have given the other Deities the bird and been a LG Deity of Death. If Tyr can be LG and still be a "fair" judge, then why couldn't Kelemvor? He could have worked it a little, given enough room for himself to be a LG Deity of Death, while at the same time not taking away from the other Deities.
check this for elven woods:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZhrsLV6JSc
Kelemvor should have given the other Deities the bird and been a LG Deity of Death. If Tyr can be LG and still be a "fair" judge, then why couldn't Kelemvor? He could have worked it a little, given enough room for himself to be a LG Deity of Death, while at the same time not taking away from the other Deities.
I would have rather him have become something like a LG god of sanctity of life, guardianship of the dead, etc.
But to me, Good gods of the dead aren't all that unique (we already have Sehanine and Osiris in the Realms).
I would have rather him have become something like a LG god of sanctity of life, guardianship of the dead, etc.
But to me, Good gods of the dead aren't all that unique (we already have Sehanine and Osiris in the Realms).
That could have worked.
Yes, but Sehanine was the Elven Goddess of the Dead, just as Osiris was the Mulhorandi God of the Dead.
Out of the various pantheons with dead gods (Mulhorandi, Elven, Gnomish, Orcish, Faerunian), there's only ONE evil dead god.
I just think that we should judge FR based on FR and not how we feel about other settings/dead gods/etc.
But that's how I play games. If I find I'm changing the theme/feel of a setting too much, I change the setting itself so as to be respectful towards it.
So? :p
Out of the various pantheons with dead gods (Mulhorandi, Elven, Gnomish, Orcish, Faerunian), there's only ONE evil dead god.
I just think that we should judge FR based on FR and not how we feel about other settings/dead gods/etc.
But that's how I play games. If I find I'm changing the theme/feel of a setting too much, I change the setting itself so as to be respectful towards it.
That makes sense.
We aren't even close to being about music.
How's that dirgesinger?
How about some dirges?
How's that dirgesinger?
Dirgesinger? Is that like a wedding singer?
Only if you consider marriage to be death.
Well, there are all of those "Game Over" shirts floating around...
I know Elves are older then the rest of us... But do they really have to be so arrogant about it?
My problem with that elf was that he didn't go far enough.
If he had started saying stuff like, "I am a god incarnate", then I would have REALLY been impressed.
If you want to prideful, go all the way!My problem with that elf was that he didn't go far enough.
-He didn't, eh? How would you suggest he do?
-He didn't, eh? How would you suggest he do?
He needs to declare that he is "a god-like being."
A true child of Corellon.He needs to declare that he is "a god-like being."
-Does something along the lines of, "After all, we are the true children of Corellon Larethian, one of the most incredible powers known throughout the multiverse" work?
-Does something along the lines of, "After all, we are the true children of Corellon Larethian, one of the most incredible powers known throughout the multiverse" work?
Sure. Although, he could add "and amongst them, I am one of the finest.";)
Sure. Although, he could add "and amongst them, I am one of the finest.";)
-Well, he is not that haughty.
-Well, he is not that haughty.
Oh, indeed?
Ah well, then. Still, I'd find that level of glowing PRIDE in oneself impressive.
Still, I'd find that level of glowing PRIDE in oneself impressive.
-He doesn't walk about himself very much, actually.
-He doesn't walk about himself very much, actually.
Yes, I'm getting that impression.;)
Although, didn't he mention that he may have fathered children on the mainland? That seems a pretty private topic!
Although, didn't he mention that he may have fathered children on the mainland? That seems a pretty private topic!
-He mentioned that that is a possibility (I don't even remember what section that was in), as he slept with multiple women- a perfectly common and Elven thing to do- while traveling around Faerûn.
-He mentioned that that is a possibility (I don't even remember what section that was in), as he slept with multiple women- a perfectly common and Elven thing to do- while traveling around Faerûn.
Right, but I meant that that counts as talking about one's personal and perhaps private matters.
Not that I mind--I'm quite interested in the characters you and the others have come up with.
Oh, indeed?
Ah well, then. Still, I'd find that level of glowing PRIDE in oneself impressive.
And I find it offensive... Ah well, just the way I am I guess. Sad thing is, I could probably get along with him, just every time he'd open his mouth to boost about whatever I'd have to pop him in the head. :P
Not that I mind--I'm quite interested in the characters you and the others have come up with.
-Next time I see you, I'll bring my binder of PCs, then, for your viewing pleasure. At some point, I started keeping all of the PCs I've played in a folder, from all games. I have about 10 or so in there.
-Next time I see you, I'll bring my binder of PCs, then, for your viewing pleasure. At some point, I started keeping all of the PCs I've played in a folder, from all games. I have about 10 or so in there.
O.o
Ooooo... Me wanna look... I is curious like that. I still have my Father's, and two of my Uncle's AD&D character sheets floating around here somewhere...
To true music lovers, all music can haunt a person. Some songs can stick with you for days, months, years... The mind grabs a hold and doesn't let go. And just when you think you've forgotten the song, just one key is enough to bring it back, and you can sing along with the rest of your mates, with out missing a beat.
The Village People must die for Y.M.C.A. Too catchy!
The Village People must die for Y.M.C.A. Too catchy!
And In the Navy. I'd had that one jump me outta no where. Seriously, it could have been months since I've heard it, I'd be walking along and then BOOM "In the Navy! Where you can sail the seven seas."
-Next time I see you, I'll bring my binder of PCs, then, for your viewing pleasure. At some point, I started keeping all of the PCs I've played in a folder, from all games. I have about 10 or so in there.
That would be wonderful, thank you!
And I find it offensive... Ah well, just the way I am I guess. Sad thing is, I could probably get along with him, just every time he'd open his mouth to boost about whatever I'd have to pop him in the head. :P
Legend has it that my own sense of pride can be seen from space.
Legend has it that my own sense of pride can be seen from space.
-It's true. I can confirm that. I remember that.
Legend has it that my own sense of pride can be seen from space.
That's alright. You need a microscope just to spot mine. And that's if your lucky. I have no real pride what so ever. At all. I don't take pride in anything I do, because I feel I haven't done anything worthy of pride yet. The only thing I take pride in is my ability to keep my teammates alive.
Granted, that's mostly just in City of Heroes, where I play the Tank. Alot like how I play my Paladin's. As tanks. Which is why I like the 4.0 Paladin. :P
-A Paladin, without Pride. A Smart Paladin. You sure are a pile of contradictions.
What do I have in life to be proud of? The only things that are of importances to me, and that I would take pride in. Is my ability to look after those around me. Other then that, I really have nothing to be proud of. Haven't done much in life to be proud of...
Haven't done much in life to be proud of...
-You live. You are a defender of good and justice. You are smart. You have amassed 350 posts on these boards. You are competant enough to use a computer. You have achieved mastery over the english language...
-You live. You are a defender of good and justice. You are smart. You have amassed 350 posts on these boards. You are competant enough to use a computer. You have achieved mastery over the english language...
Alright, aside from the "You live. You are a defender of good and justice. You are smart." I still haven't done anything to be proud of. How can one take pride in a language that is like a theft? The english language is really just a smattering of different languages... Given time, it will become know as a language of trade, and everyone would use it for just that only. For english as we know it is changing.
The english language is really just a smattering of different languages...
-Which somehow makes it less difficult of a language to master (English is considered THE most difficult language to attain mastery over)?
As for the 'smart' part... your on your own there. ;)
As for my prideful demenaor (read ego)... well, lets just say Aliens from the Crab Nebula swing by for a closer look. :D
But remember, Sir Percival was not a prideful paladin - in fact, he was noted for his humility, and he was the only one fit to find the Holy Grail.
As for the 'smart' part... your on your own there. ;)
As for my prideful demenaor (read ego)... well, lets just say Aliens from the Crab Nebula swing by for a closer look. :D
Wasn't he also the only one who could sit on that one chair, and not get killed for it? I can't remember the chairs name to save my life...
Well, I'm a smartass, that count? :P
There's an image...
I honestly don't think I have an ego... Never had a use for it. I'd rather be more up front and honest about myself. No use having a puffed up sense of pride to get in the way on a clear mind. Always been a proud practicer of "What you see is what you get, don't like it? Deal with it." :P
Huh, another things I'm proud of... I think their starting to sneak up on me...
The english language is really just a smattering of different languages...
Meh, what language isn't?
Meh, what language isn't?
Not sure yet... Let you know when I figure it out.
Oh, and I found the name of the knight I wanted. It was Sir Galahad, and the chair was Siege Perilous.
Oh, and I found the name of the knight I wanted. It was Sir Galahad, and the chair was Siege Perilous.
-In the campaign I am running, a former PC was a Paladin named Galahad. He, along with three other players abruptly stopped playing after seriously ****ing up my campaign the very first day. After I recovered things sufficiently, they didn't even have the courtesy to say they didn't want to play any more. I just had their characters "disappear" one night. I made lemonaid out of the situation, and it turns out Galahad the Paladin is actually a Blackguard now, looking to sacrifice the PCs to his patron, Eltab.
-In the campaign I am running, a former PC was a Paladin named Galahad. He, along with three other players abruptly stopped playing after seriously ****ing up my campaign the very first day. After I recovered things sufficiently, they didn't even have the courtesy to say they didn't want to play any more. I just had their characters "disappear" one night. I made lemonaid out of the situation, and it turns out Galahad the Paladin is actually a Blackguard now, looking to sacrifice the PCs to his patron, Eltab.
Whoa, what'd they do to derail it? Seriously?
Whoa, what'd they do to derail it? Seriously?
-Basically, the introductory plothook I was using was that the PCs were all framed for a crime, and that the judge envoked an ancient law that gave the defendants 24 hours to prove their innocence before they were brought to court and charged. Instead of seeking out the individual(s) who framed them- which I gave ample evidence for an investigation to begin- 4 out of my 5 PCs decided to use Quaal's Feather Token to create a rowboat, which they boarded, and rowed out of the bay, into the ocean, without a map, or anybody having any great ability to navigate. I ruled that, instead of rowing across the bay, they rowed out of the harbor, into the ocean. Twenty-four hours later, the magic ended, and their boat disappeared, leaving those PCs floating in the middle of the ocean with no land in sight. I had a benevolent pirate ship (the player who was the sole person to cooperate was nice enough to make a new character, and was playing the first-mate on said ship) pick them up and rescue them.
-The players, the next week, wanted to "go back in time" and do things over. I said no, what happened, happened. After skipping the next week, for whatever it was (I think it was Colombus Day, or maybe my birthday), I was informed by one of the two players I am still currently playing with, that three of those players no longer wanted to play. So, I had the characters make a 'quick escape', and turned them into BBEGs.
-Basically, the introductory plothook I was using was that the PCs were all framed for a crime, and that the judge envoked an ancient law that gave the defendants 24 hours to prove their innocence before they were brought to court and charged. Instead of seeking out the individual(s) who framed them- which I gave ample evidence for an investigation to begin- 4 out of my 5 PCs decided to use Quaal's Feather Token to create a rowboat, which they boarded, and rowed out of the bay, into the ocean, without a map, or anybody having any great ability to navigate. I ruled that, instead of rowing across the bay, they rowed out of the harbor, into the ocean. Twenty-four hours later, the magic ended, and their boat disappeared, leaving those PCs floating in the middle of the ocean with no land in sight. I had a benevolent pirate ship (the player who was the sole person to cooperate was nice enough to make a new character, and was playing the first-mate on said ship) pick them up and rescue them.
-The players, the next week, wanted to "go back in time" and do things over. I said no, what happened, happened. After skipping the next week, for whatever it was (I think it was Colombus Day, or maybe my birthday), I was informed by one of the two players I am still currently playing with, that three of those players no longer wanted to play. So, I had the characters make a 'quick escape', and turned them into BBEGs.
Okay... I think I need to throw my brain in the wash after reading that.
Okay... I think I need to throw my brain in the wash after reading that.
-Why?
Because those Players sounded like fools. They had all the tools needed to follow the real quest, and yet they ran off and tried to get out of town. Don't care about proving their own innocents, nope, they just wanna skip town.
-This should make it a little sweeter (;))
Player who stayed, and did what I planned the party to do:
Bamboo Spirit Folk Samurai 1 (LG)
Players who fled:
Human Paladin of Torm 1 (LG)
Human Cleric of Torm 1 (LG)
Human Druid 1 (NG)
Human Monk 1 (LN)
Wait, a Paladin skipped town? Are you kidding me?!
-That's why Galahad, the aforementioned Paladin, is now a Blackguard of Eltab. ;)
Smite Stupidity? It could have been a feat that everyone could have picked up and used!
-DMs already have this ability.
LOL, LK, I feel sorry for you, you seem to have all these D&D horror stories.
-Geeze, I know, right...
Truly. One feels a need to kidnap 'em, take to a bar. Buy him a few rounds, and coax a few more stories out of him. :P
-Eh, I'm up for that. Maybe I should start my own thread- LK's Storyhour!
Truly. One feels a need to kidnap 'em, take to a bar. Buy him a few rounds, and coax a few more stories out of him.
-Eh, I'm up for that. Maybe I should start my own thread- LK's Storyhour!
I'd rather have the thread version, unless you feel like flying to a neighboring country every time this happens (I wouldn't want to miss those stories).
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And HRMPH... you go out to the wilderness for a few days of fishing, swimming and whatnot... and when you return, you have an ***load of new interesting comments.
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He needs to declare that he is "a god-like being."
I'd probably believe him....but my tommy-gun wouldn't
I'd probably believe him....but my tommy-gun wouldn't
-Machine guns? In D&D? Pistols are one thing, but machine guns!?
-Machine guns? In D&D? Pistols are one thing, but machine guns!?
Not "Machine gun"
Tommy Tnuorp's Hand Cranked gyrating slug hurler.
It's a contraption from Lantan that looks like a giant "Salad shooter" that hurls 10 lead bullets a second via cranking the gears that activate the springs that activate the hammers that hit the bullets that fall into the chambers from the hopper :angelhide
Alright...."MAchine gun" :evillaugh
Not "Machine gun"
Tommy Tnuorp's Hand Cranked gyrating slug hurler.
It's a contraption from Lantan that looks like a giant "Salad shooter" that hurls 10 lead bullets a second via cranking the gears that activate the springs that activate the hammers that hit the bullets that fall into the chambers from the hopper :angelhide
Alright...."MAchine gun" :evillaugh
Darn those Gnome Gondites... :P
Darn those Gnome and human Gondites... :P
That's better. ;)
That's better. ;)
-Well, no. The Human Gondites are alright. The Gnome Gondites aren't.
-Well, no. The Human Gondites are alright. The Gnome Gondites aren't.
Yeah! 'Cause if they were, then you'd see Gnomes in the 4E handbook.
What? :P
-Well, no. The Human Gondites are alright. The Gnome Gondites aren't.
No. The human Gondar are just as capable of producing the curious and quaint inventions that the gnomish Gondar are also known for.
No. The human Gondar are just as capable of producing the curious and quaint inventions that the gnomish Gondar are also known for.
-Of course. That doesn't change the fact that the Human Gondites, there is nothing specifically wrong with them, whereas the Gnomish Gnondites, their existence is inherently wrong.
You referring to TSR's poorly thought out incorporation of the tinker-like aspect of the gnomes into the Realms?
-No, I am refering to the fact that I don't like Gnomes, and that they are inferior beings that need to be enslaved...
-I apparently have a history of that.
-No, I am refering to the fact that I don't like Gnomes, and that they are inferior beings that need to be enslaved...
This whole conversation made me laugh, because Sage didn't see where you were going with it.
This whole conversation made me laugh, because Sage didn't see where you were going with it.
-I found it funny, too.
Aye, I apologise. I haven't slept much in the past several days. I only now just realised what LK had been saying. :embarrass
-That's all right.
Speaking of which, how does gnome music sound like? Something like the Waltz of the Lazy Chair Room?
I thoroughly agree with Lord Karsus's point on gnome inferiority.
Speaking of which, how does gnome music sound like? Something like the Waltz of the Lazy Chair Room?
I always though Rap or Hiphop. Ya know, a Gnome and his Gnomies. :P
"Where my Gnomes at?" :P
Speaking of which, how does gnome music sound like?
I have a little bit sitting on my HD that focuses on gnomish music. The only problem is, I'm not sure I can post it. It was originally for a DRAGON article submission I wrote on Realms music, which includes plenty of well-researched Realmslore on the subject. With the cancellation of the printed magazine however, I still don't know what I'm doing with the article.
It would, I suppose, be sufficient to post a summary of sorts.
I thoroughly agree with Lord Karsus's point on gnome inferiority.
Speaking of which, how does gnome music sound like? Something like the Waltz of the Lazy Chair Room?
Like Any Ompaloompa song song from either Willy Wonka Movie I'd guess.
To be clear on the Question I am assuming the original poster means the actual music the people in the Realms might play or listen to and not the kind of music a DM plays while running a session.
The Music most assosiated with Lutes, Flutes, Lyres, hand harps and hand percusions would be 14th to 17th century Welsh or Celtic folk music, maybe even a Irish jig...right?
I agree with Gnomish sentiment....They are Dwarf wannabes and a pale comparision of tinkerers of machines that could never match High Tech Dwarvish Engineering of Ancient days.
If fact it is been speculated that Gnomes are some kind of fey-dwarf mutation or absurd experiment gone wrong from when Dwarves where not into Machine engineering but also Bio-engineering and keeping creatures like Deepspawns as thralls to produce creatures of various sorts for various needs. (Gnomes make good "tight space" crawlers for looking for enemies hidden in fox holes or to clean oy sewers, for instance)
It still may be worth attempting another submission to the online DRAGON Magazine department here at WotC.
-No, I am refering to the fact that I don't like Gnomes, and that they are inferior beings that need to be enslaved...
-I apparently have a history of that.
It's probably because they stole your cookies using illusion magic that's it.;) Gee, that dosen't mean you have to enslave their race for entire millenia and turn half of them into demented monsters, aren't you overreacting?:D
On topic (even though everyone else isn't): I once played Domination by Pantera when my friend and I were discussing campaign ideas. Didn't work out too well...:P
For a creepy feeling in your campaign, play some black ambient like ulver.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwSjaf3aa2M
On topic (even though everyone else isn't): I once played Domination by Pantera when my friend and I were discussing campaign ideas. Didn't work out too well...:P
For a creepy feeling in your campaign, play some black ambient like ulver.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwSjaf3aa2M
Ulver? Wolves!?
Nah, i play Ultima Online music while playing. Only problem is there's a part of my scary tune which sounds like Will E. Coyote hugging a cactus, which makes my players laugh...
For some reason, when i'm planning campaigns, i usually listen to Dire Straits for some bizarre reason.
Ulver? Wolves!?
Nah, i play Ultima Online music while playing. Only problem is there's a part of my scary tune which sounds like Will E. Coyote hugging a cactus, which makes my players laugh...
For some reason, when i'm planning campaigns, i usually listen to Dire Straits for some bizarre reason.
Yeah, that's probably because I am a black metal freak:embarrass .
Dire Straits...not my cup of tea (Sultans of Swing literally puts me to sleep), but I suppose it's thought invoking.
Yeah, that's probably because I am a black metal freak:embarrass .
Dire Straits...not my cup of tea (Sultans of Swing literally puts me to sleep), but I suppose it's thought invoking.
Dire Straits is very mellow - excellent for cuddling! But i'm more into punk, classic rock and hair metal, and some thrash. Rancid, Sick of it All, Dropkick Murphys, Led Zeppelin, T. Rex, AC/DC New York Dolls, Hanoi Rocks, Mötley Crüe, Poison, Kreator, Exodus, Slayer...
Had a brief stint with what some might call death metal (Dimmu Borgir, Satyricon, Darkthrone etc...) but it was a bit silly once i turned 15. But still off on a road trip to Sweden Rock to see Satyricon, Whitesnake, Poison, Def Leppard, Ratt, Saxon and Judas Priest!
As for Norwegian bands - Jokke & Valentinere/Tourettes and Turbonegro are both amazing!
But i'd suggest looking through computer game music files - a lot of it is loopable and excellent for D&D.
Cool, I love all those bands on that tour. I'm going to go see Dream Theater, Three, and Opeth live with my friend soon.
Metal isn't all I listen too. I sometimes find myself listening to this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjpgdhV1M14
I like all that stuff too. My favorites are death, black, thrash, sludge, groove, and metalcore.
Cool, I love all those bands on that tour. I'm going to go see Dream Theater, Three, and Opeth live with my friend soon.
Metal isn't all I listen too. I sometimes find myself listening to this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjpgdhV1M14
Opeth's alright, but too proggy to rank highly in my taste. Seen them live at Rockefeller, and they weren't all that good live. Music's too advanced - they can't be drunk, jumping, running or anything else, and it basically just sounded like it did on their record. Sick of it all had the best gig i've ever been to, broken glass, concussions, cuts etc etc! A real mosh-pit!
But shall we stray back on topic?