Origins: Kelemvor Lyonsbane

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#1

angelus_obscura

Sep 11, 2008 0:44:36
In the spirit of Origins: Wolverine, I am on a grand quest to find the birthplace of our God of Death and the Dead. He was cursed to be a werebeast (panther) whenever he acted upon kindness, he killed his father, and he was a wanted man. Sounds like Wolverine to me!

Anyways, I have managed to narrow the location of Lyonsbane Keep down to somewhere in the Western Heartlands. It is also in or near a forest. Where would it be? I searched through every written lore about Kelemvor. I even went to the learned sages of Candlekeep. Anyone know?

I ask because in a 4E-gotten Realms game that is starting soon, my cleric will be a scion of the Lyonsbane bloodline, through Kelemvor's uncles and cousins. The only link to the past is an inherited heirloom, a sword (bastard).
#2

marius4

Sep 11, 2008 0:57:17
In the spirit of Origins: Wolverine, I am on a grand quest to find the birthplace of our God of Death and the Dead. He was cursed to be a werebeast (panther) whenever he acted upon kindness, he killed his father, and he was a wanted man. Sounds like Wolverine to me!

Anyways, I have managed to narrow the location of Lyonsbane Keep down to somewhere in the Western Heartlands. It is also in or near a forest. Where would it be? I searched through every written lore about Kelemvor. I even went to the learned sages of Candlekeep. Anyone know?

I ask because in a 4E-gotten Realms game that is starting soon, my cleric will be a scion of the Lyonsbane bloodline, through Kelemvor's uncles and cousins. The only link to the past is an inherited heirloom, a sword (bastard).

He's got (or had) that big ziggurat temple in Ormath. Isn't that in the Western Heartlands? I know it was formerly dedicated to Myrkul, but it's at least part of the Kelemvorite lore. Perhaps you could place the keep somewhere nearby. The temple's former inhabitants may even have inadvertently contributed to the downfall of the Lyonsbanes.
#3

dangerdude69

Sep 11, 2008 9:57:41
that's actually a damn good story hook. i've been wanting to work an angle like that for years, but on the flip side of the coin-using the Manx family as a stepping off point.
#4

angelus_obscura

Sep 11, 2008 21:02:59
that's actually a damn good story hook. i've been wanting to work an angle like that for years, ...

Thanks!
Expanding upon the story, my character was born after his mother died from an attack from a wraith. One of the mercenaries she hired to get her out of western Faerun was a paladin, who managed to save the child from the womb. The child's hair was whitened and his eyes nearly bleached of color, as he was touched by death, literally. Oh and the god he serves is Kelemvor, his great-great-grand uncle.

I need ideas for the Lyonsbane heraldry/coat-of-arms. Any ideas? Suggestions?
#5

lord_karsus

Sep 11, 2008 21:47:20
I need ideas for the Lyonsbane heraldry/coat-of-arms. Any ideas? Suggestions?

-I'd suggest that it's something similar to Kelemvor's holy symbol. He didn't make that up out of thin air, so, it makes sense a bit.
#6

angelus_obscura

Sep 12, 2008 11:56:36
-I'd suggest that it's something similar to Kelemvor's holy symbol. He didn't make that up out of thin air, so, it makes sense a bit.

True, but what about his panther form when he transformed under the curse? If I remember correctly, all of his male ancestors (going back generations to the originator of the curse, Kyle) were werepanthers. It'd make sense to have the sorceress's curse use the animal representing the family to kill. Ironic twist of justice.

Perhaps the panther is part of the Lyonsbane heraldry. With maybe a golden scale as well?
#7

JudgeDookie

Sep 12, 2008 21:09:14
True, but what about his panther form when he transformed under the curse? If I remember correctly, all of his male ancestors (going back generations to the originator of the curse, Kyle) were werepanthers. It'd make sense to have the sorceress's curse use the animal representing the family to kill. Ironic twist of justice.

Perhaps the panther is part of the Lyonsbane heraldry. With maybe a golden scale as well?

And, of course, he is a werepanther. So, regardless of what region he may have come from, they may have been hunted--for whatever reasons.

So, you flee, bring up a family somewhere else.
#8

angelus_obscura

Sep 12, 2008 21:50:11
I don't think the curse passed to all of the descendants; just one male child to pass the curse until it is broken. That's how I interpreted it. There never was any mention of whether Kelemvor's older brothers and uncles had the curse. If they did, Kelemvor;s dad would have been killed by one of his brothers, not him. But in case I'm wrong, I'll have my Kelsior descended from a daughter of the bloodline. As for how she kept her maiden name, she never married. She had a scandalous affair with a bard of repute, who left her. Blah blah ...

Between the events of the Time of Troubles and Return of the Archwizards, it would make sense for the Lyonsbane family to branched out to other cities and nations, incl. Sembia.
#9

davesaunders

Sep 18, 2008 13:07:14
I might be mistakne but I think I remember reading that the curse was only passed to the first born son.
#10

angelus_obscura

Sep 23, 2008 2:18:30
Kelemvor gets the spotlight again, this time as a wallpaper! YAY! :bounce:

#11

lord_karsus

Sep 23, 2008 10:07:59
-I don't believe that is Kelemvor. Or rather, I really hope that isn't supposed to be Kelemvor.
#12

rinonalyrna_fathomlin

Sep 23, 2008 11:41:30
I think that's a follow of Kelemvor, but not the deity himself. And by the way, he's got an ugly mug!:P
#13

angelus_obscura

Sep 23, 2008 12:47:54
I know that's not Kelemvor. It's a bit obvious it's a follower, as it's the picture of the doomguide PP from the FRPG. I just meant that Kelemvor's is getting a lot more exposure than the other gods, esp. thru pictures and stuff. The chapter art for feats has a Kelemvorite fighting an undead. :P