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#1 amedahast Dec 04, 2009 23:55:09	I'm having a hard time getting a feel for how prevalent some of the "new" core races are in the 4E Realms.  Taking Cormyr, for example, how many tieflings, dragonborn, genasi and drow (or redeemed dark elves) are wandering around on a typical day? Prior to the spellplague, these always seemed to be extremely, extremely rare.  Each of the above would warrant stares from the population, if not outright fear or loathing, in most any city of the Realms.  Now it seems like they're supposed to be everywhere, and a pretty standard thing to see in many cities. Do others have this perception?  Is it just me?
#2 sfdragon Dec 05, 2009 1:38:00	I do take  the tiefling, gensai and dragonborn would be more common on surface of the Realms more than the Drow regarless of said drow's alignment
#3 The_Silversword Dec 05, 2009 1:58:30	It depends on where youre at. In Cormyr i would see humans being the majority, Dwarves, Halflings, Half-Elves, Elves, and possibly Gnomes are common enough that they probably wouldnt warrant a second glance. Tieflings would definetly get some looks, the local guards would probably follow them around making sure theyre not up to anything. I would think Drow would get some looks too. Dragonborn would get some looks too, being an entirley new race brought over from Abeir during the Spellplauge so im sure they would get some curious stares or maybe even open fear.
#4 Black_Egg Dec 06, 2009 21:47:39	I wouldn't expect drow or tieflings to be any more common than they were in the pre-Spellplague Realms.  Nothing I recall in the events in between would be likely to increase the occurrence of these races. Dragonborn and Genasi would also likely be modestly rare outside of their new homelands, but you'd probably see diplomats and merchant-types in most every nation. Within Tymanther you'd obviously see a lot of Dragonborn though. Keep in mind that after such a rough displacement from Abeir, the Dragonborn and Genasi are probably still recovering to an extent. One hundred years is probably enough time to get a feeling for the other nations and start building relations, but the majority of the time and resources in these nations has probably gone toward recovery.
#5 hvulpes Dec 07, 2009 9:24:46	Dragonborns of Tymanther are sending out members of their military (current and retired I think) to learn as much of the world around them, while mentioning little of their homeland. So there might be bit more of the D-born wondering looking at the situations abroad.  I don't know about the Genasi of Akanul, but it might be a reverse case with Genasi from all over Faerun coming to that land where their people are in control. Also sharing information and stories about all of the other lands and history to the new country of human elementals.
#6 doc_dog Dec 07, 2009 13:34:19	Depends what the book says right? If the population of wherever has this percentage of people, thats it. And, prejudices already exist. Just because Drow is a PC race now doesn't mean that everyone suddenly forgot their hundreds of years of ingrained hate versus drow.
#7 amedahast Dec 09, 2009 16:04:08	Thanks everyone, very good points.  Just because they're in the books for PCs to use doesn't mean the percentages of their "in town presence" has changed.  I guess I'll go with percentages from earlier books, unless something in a new source says it's dramatically different.  Drow, genasi, and dragonborn should still get stares (or outfight looks of fear or loathing) in largely human towns.
#8 Mr_Miscellany Dec 13, 2009 21:13:52	For a place like Cormyr I'd say the newer races are probably focused around the port cities like Suzail and Marsember (even if the city is up the hill a bit from where the port is now) and that after 100 years the sight of them is something people are used to. Go beyond the city walls, and things change.  I imagine you'd have Dragonborn hired on as honorable and trustworthy mercenaries, useful as much for their militaristic bent as they are for pure show.  So they'd be ones to travel the caravan routes.  Not knowing them any better, I'd not be surprised if an upland Cormyrian dismissed Dragonborn as nothing more than dragon shaped orcs. In my original 3E Realms campaign, owing to Epic Level actions by the PCs, drow worshipping Elistraee returned in small numbers to the Hullack Forest.  Fast forward to the 4E Realms and you have the FR Campaign Guide saying the Eldreth Veluuthra are active in the Hullack. So I split the difference and put them both there, battling each other, with the Cormyrians ostensibly supporting the drow, while certain nobles and power brokers are keen to pit both sides against each other for as long as it's profitable, in the hopes the factions will wipe each other out. As for the perception thing...well 3E did try hard to mix in new races too.  I had a hard time with 3E's Genasi for a long time (I didn't think they fit the 3E Realms at all) but like so much else that's happened in the Realms you just sort of have to swallow it and move on.
#9 DoctorBadWolf Dec 18, 2009 17:28:39	reading through the FRPG real quick, dragonborn are a mixed bag in terms of people's reactions to them, but a hundred years is long enough for them to be more exotic than to have people react to them like they're scary monsters. Teiflings are more widely dispersed post-spellplague than they were before, and even hold positions of power in baldur's gate and waterdeep. In Cormyr I think they would meet with a mix of racial suspicion and acceptance, depending on individuals, but rarely outright hatred or unreasoning fear. More of a "sure, killing a tiefling because it's got a tail is wrong, but that don't mean I want them living next door..." closer to real world racism of the non genocidal slave trading lynching variety, rather than "oh god it's a monster kill it!" Which is all to say that since there are more Tieflings spread around the world in general, any given nation that isn't xenophobic should probably have a higher Tieflings population than it did pre spellplague.