LordManshoon;19105560 wrote:
-I'd love for them to do that. I was only able, online, to find the first book, but none of the others, so I didn't buy that one, and subsequently, haven't read any of those. While it's been said that they weren't exactly the best books, for a bunch of reasons, it'd be nice to have a book that deals with ancient Netheril, just for the insights it can lend..
That's like me and the Councilors and Kings trilogy. I found the first and third books in a shop last year (which surprised me, because I thought they were out of print and this wasn't a used/specialty book shop). I still have to find a copy of the second book (The Floodgate?). I'd love to get my hands on as many of the old novels as possible, but it seems like wherever I go, the seller either charges too much or the condition the book's in isn't worth the effort.
-Yes, absolutely. Star of Cursrah is a great novel, and is so underrated that plenty of people have never even heard of it (and, their loss). I was planning on rereading it to post a review, but I recently got a library card, and have been taking out all kinds of books there, so I kinda put that on hold. I might pick it up and reread it now, just because.
Good to hear. Then I have a goal in mind. Hopefully, I won't encounter the same problem I mentioned above.
Now all I have to do is find a reasonably priced copy in good condition (I'm always anxious about the "fair" condition). My thanks!While we're at it, what other novels would you deem your top picks? A top five or ten, say?
-It's nowhere near complete, but you can find an index of the novels I already have read and reviewed HERE. Star of Cursrah will be next, whenever I get to it, and then something else. Being as that I have a library card now, like I said earlier, I don't expect myself to reread too many novel's I've already read to just pass the time.
Cool. I more or less agree with them. Now that I think about it, the Empires trilogy would be another reprint I would gobble up.
Stupid move on their part - I think re-visiting each, and putting them in a more 'modern' context (including any new lore retro-actively, like the fact the 'High' Elves were really Eladrin) would get older fans to re-purchase some of them, and also allow new fans to enjoy them without any "WTF?!" moments.
I think putting corrections in would be a great way to go - they did that when the re-released Spellfire, and they should do that with all the rest as well.
I wish they'd 'clean them up' when they get re-published, but alas, any mistakes (or lore contradictions) remain whenever they re-release a novel, simply because no-one ever bothers to fix any of it.
Stupid move on their part - I think re-visiting each, and putting them in a more 'modern' context (including any new lore retro-actively, like the fact the 'High' Elves were really Eladrin) would get older fans to re-purchase some of them, and also allow new fans to enjoy them without any "WTF?!" moments.
I think putting corrections in would be a great way to go - they did that when the re-released Spellfire, and they should do that with all the rest as well.
-Spelling corrections, I wouldn't mind that. Going into novels and "fixing them" (using the term very, very lightly), I'd boycott the product, even if I didn't have it, if WotC did stuff like that.
Then maybe Rich could include an explanation how he re-planted an un-replantable tree in that series. ;)
I'd prefer all the mistakes get editted out, and new stuff added... I've had it with weird lore because some author got something wrong.
Or Elaine referring to the Gold Elves as Grey Elves... that sort of thing (or whatever that mistake was, exactly).
I'm not talking about revisions, just corrections... simple stuff.
For instance, at the beginning of the second book of the Twilight Giants, the Queen is in desperate need of help against the giants. that was why she was so eager to fall for the deception of THE Ettin.
I think somewhere in that first chapter she could have made an off-hand comment about how she had sent an envoy to Luruar to ask Alustriel for aid, but received no answer (the envoy was kiled enroute by evil giants), or she recieved an answer, but Alustriel said she must regrettably decline because her own lands are under siege by an Orc Horde lead by a certain King Obould (which would be the better way to go).
One or two sentences could have tied the entire series to the Forgotten Realms, instead of it floating in 'limbo' like it is, with no connections to the rest of Faerûn. That simple change would have made all the difference in the world, as far as I'm concerned.
I'd rather they 'patch' the books before they re-release them. As it is, to me, its like re-releasing faulty products. They don't do that in any other industry... why is it okay with Game novels?
-It also opens the door for massive revisions in the setting, and a power that I might not necessarily trust WotC and the designers with. As you mentioned, replacing certain Elven subraces with the term 'Eladrin'. Suddenly, term is replaced everywhere, and 'Moon Elf', 'Sun Elf', 'Star Elf', and whatever else don't exist anywhere other than in the original copes of the books, before the editors went to town? Is that a good thing for the Forgotten Realms, a setting that relies a great deal on it's past? Especially with the fairly large gulf between the current rules and setting, and older rules and incarnations of the setting.
-Fixing spelling errors, or grammar errors, that's fine. I wouldn't be surprised if they already do stuff like that right now. That type of revision is minor. The other type of revision is quite large, not necessarily in what is being altered (a word here or there, a sentence or two), but rather, in the door it is opening up.
These are game-novels we are talking about, and in the case of the Forgotten realms, they also double as sourcebooks (thanks to their canonicity). They are NOT fine literature. :P
Sourcebooks should be corrected... anything less is poor business practice. If they weren't canon, then I'd agree with you, but they are, so they need to be corrected because they effect a game setting. I'd also agree with you if they were bothering to re-publish them every so often, and they take the time to make new covers for them, but not to correct anything.
If the book is a new edition, then it should be 'fixed', plain and simple. If they were just reprinting the original, then I might still agree with you, but they are not... they are claiming its a new edition (when it's really nothing more then a cover-change).
Edit: Just finished... I have to agree that the Eladrin thing might be a bit much, now that you put it that way. I was thinking a single reference somewhere, like at the beginning of Evermeet, when the Elves are fleeing Tintageer, but I can see how that can get totally out of hand (especially since the guys in-charge prefer the 'sledghammer apprioach' to making changes).
Or Elaine referring to the Gold Elves as Grey Elves... that sort of thing (or whatever that mistake was, exactly).
The Moon Elves were referred to as Gray Elves, but that was a derogatory term for them used by ignorant or malicious parties, so it's not really a lore mistake.