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#1
poison_dusk
Sep 17, 2008 12:12:07 It occurred to me as I was re-reading the first two books in this series (never owned the set, it was a few years between the books the last time) and realized there is a large patch of time not accounted for between Servant of the Shard and Promise of the Witch-King. When did the dragon sisters come into play? Whats up with Artemis killing the shade? Is there another book I should read to fill this in?
#2
serphet
Sep 17, 2008 12:37:57 servant of the shard was originally part 3 of the paths of darkness set.

I haven't kept up with R.A.'s stuff since it, so can't help you any more than that.
#3
markustay63
Sep 17, 2008 12:42:19 Yeah, Servant of the Shard was retconned as part of two different series. Funny, now WotC is retconning the RW. :P

The piece of time missing appeared in a Realms of Shadow anthology short-story, wherein Artemis aquired his 'Shadiness'. ;)
#4
keveras
Sep 17, 2008 12:48:54 Yep, it's called That Curious Sword
#5
umbralknight
Sep 17, 2008 12:55:46 maybe its not too late to save someone...

Whatever you do, don't read Road of the Patriarch!!!

Ok, maybe you havent read it yet, in which case maybe I saved you the agony. If you have, then understand that you are not alone in your pain. Thousands of unsuspecting Salvatore fans world wide, myself included, read that book, not seeing it for what it was before it was too late. If you look for one, you can probably find a support group in your area.

/rant
#6
markustay63
Sep 17, 2008 13:08:54 True enough.

Its as if RAS wanted to write a certain story about Artemis' past, and WotfC wouldn't let him, so he cut the current trilogy WAY short (and its painfully obvious), just so he could serrepticiously write the story he really wanted to tell.

I don't mind him telling the tale of Artemis' past, but I do mind the rather abrupt way he ended the trilogy story-line. It was pathetic, and he has lost me as a reader for good (unless his Golarion stuff is worth the bother - we shall see).
#7
lord_karsus
Sep 17, 2008 13:15:32
When did the dragon sisters come into play?

-I believe that how the two duos met is explained in a short story in Realms of the Dragons. It's not necessary reading, however, if you don't have/want that book.

Whats up with Artemis killing the shade?

-This was explained in the short story "That Curious Sword" in Realms of Shadows.
#8
umbralknight
Sep 17, 2008 13:31:29
WotfC

Not sure if that was intentional, but I found it hilarious.
#9
markustay63
Sep 17, 2008 13:39:27 I'm usually not that 'subliminal'. ;)
#10
Diffan
Sep 17, 2008 15:19:58
I don't mind him telling the tale of Artemis' past, but I do mind the rather abrupt way he ended the trilogy story-line. It was pathetic, and he has lost me as a reader for good (unless his Golarion stuff is worth the bother - we shall see).

I've also read some novels of R.A.'s outside of Forgotten Realms. The Spearwielder's Trilogy is a great read as well as the Demon War series. As for the Sellswords Trilogy (I went and re-read the Servant of the Shard before the other two) I found it enjoyable. True, the ending was abrupt but the info on Artemis' past was enlightening and I liked the character Athrogate.
#11
BadCatMan
Sep 17, 2008 21:14:56
-I believe that how the two duos met is explained in a short story in Realms of the Dragons. It's not necessary reading, however, if you don't have/want that book.

"Wickless In The Nether" is the rather odd title. It's where Artemis got the magic flute as well.

I'm halfway through Road Of The Patriarch right now... Meh, so far, so Salvatore. Should I be afraid of the rest of it?
#12
lord_karsus
Sep 17, 2008 21:34:50
"Wickless In The Nether" is the rather odd title. It's where Artemis got the magic flute as well.

-Yes, that was it.
#13
poison_dusk
Sep 17, 2008 22:02:20 Well, Umbral Knight, I hope it was not your intention to ruin the book for me but I think you may have. DOn't get me wrong, I will still read it, but I hope I can try to enjoy it anyway. As for those who answered my questions, thanks. I don't think I care enough to look up the other stories but thanks. Also R.A.'s Saga of the First King series is awesome so far. I love the way he writes combat.
#14
umbralknight
Sep 18, 2008 1:50:27 Didn't mean to ruin it for you. Maybe to convince you not to read it maybe, since you won't get that time in your life back. Honestly though, after books one and two I had such high expectations for that book, and about halfway through... I can't even describe it. Maybe you will like it despite me, so here's hoping. But I won't pick up another Salvatore book until he proves to me that he can be consistent again.
#15
lord_karsus
Sep 18, 2008 10:45:51 -I'll just say, the ending was very anti-climactic, but it's certainly a twist you won't see coming.
#16
davesaunders
Sep 18, 2008 13:10:18 I am going to be reading this books next (Im finishing Servant of the Shard) so I'll let you know what I think of them!
#17
Splurch1
Sep 18, 2008 13:44:06 Actually I rather enjoyed Road of the Patriarch a lot. It was different then a lot of R.A’s work but I liked that aspect of it (it didn’t just feel like another Drizzt book) (& Artemis is my favorite character of his).

Just my .02
#18
umbralknight
Sep 18, 2008 16:42:05
-I'll just say, the ending was very anti-climactic, but it's certainly a twist you won't see coming.

Like a pie in the face when you go to collect your lottery winnings.
#19
poison_dusk
Oct 04, 2008 5:23:11 I just finished Road, and I must say, I liked it. The warnings may have helped, as I suspected something that never quite happened, and I am glad of it. I just wonder if there is any further telling of any of the three.
#20
lord_karsus
Oct 04, 2008 9:41:31
I just wonder if there is any further telling of any of the three.

-After Road of the Patriarch, no. During, and right before the series, there are a few short stories.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 poison_dusk Sep 17, 2008 12:12:07	It occurred to me as I was re-reading the first two books in this series (never owned the set, it was a few years between the books the last time) and realized there is a large patch of time not accounted for between Servant of the Shard and Promise of the Witch-King. When did the dragon sisters come into play? Whats up with Artemis killing the shade? Is there another book I should read to fill this in?
#2 serphet Sep 17, 2008 12:37:57	servant of the shard was originally part 3 of the paths of darkness set. I haven't kept up with R.A.'s stuff since it, so can't help you any more than that.
#3 markustay63 Sep 17, 2008 12:42:19	Yeah, Servant of the Shard was retconned as part of two different series. Funny, now WotC is retconning the RW. :P The piece of time missing appeared in a Realms of Shadow anthology short-story, wherein Artemis aquired his 'Shadiness'. ;)
#4 keveras Sep 17, 2008 12:48:54	Yep, it's called That Curious Sword
#5 umbralknight Sep 17, 2008 12:55:46	maybe its not too late to save someone... Whatever you do, don't read Road of the Patriarch!!! Ok, maybe you havent read it yet, in which case maybe I saved you the agony. If you have, then understand that you are not alone in your pain. Thousands of unsuspecting Salvatore fans world wide, myself included, read that book, not seeing it for what it was before it was too late. If you look for one, you can probably find a support group in your area. /rant
#6 markustay63 Sep 17, 2008 13:08:54	True enough. Its as if RAS wanted to write a certain story about Artemis' past, and WotfC wouldn't let him, so he cut the current trilogy WAY short (and its painfully obvious), just so he could serrepticiously write the story he really wanted to tell. I don't mind him telling the tale of Artemis' past, but I do mind the rather abrupt way he ended the trilogy story-line. It was pathetic, and he has lost me as a reader for good (unless his Golarion stuff is worth the bother - we shall see).
#7 lord_karsus Sep 17, 2008 13:15:32	When did the dragon sisters come into play? -I believe that how the two duos met is explained in a short story in Realms of the Dragons. It's not necessary reading, however, if you don't have/want that book. Whats up with Artemis killing the shade? -This was explained in the short story "That Curious Sword" in Realms of Shadows.
#8 umbralknight Sep 17, 2008 13:31:29	WotfC Not sure if that was intentional, but I found it hilarious.
#9 markustay63 Sep 17, 2008 13:39:27	I'm usually not that 'subliminal'. ;)
#10 Diffan Sep 17, 2008 15:19:58	I don't mind him telling the tale of Artemis' past, but I do mind the rather abrupt way he ended the trilogy story-line. It was pathetic, and he has lost me as a reader for good (unless his Golarion stuff is worth the bother - we shall see). I've also read some novels of R.A.'s outside of Forgotten Realms. The Spearwielder's Trilogy is a great read as well as the Demon War series. As for the Sellswords Trilogy (I went and re-read the Servant of the Shard before the other two) I found it enjoyable. True, the ending was abrupt but the info on Artemis' past was enlightening and I liked the character Athrogate.
#11 BadCatMan Sep 17, 2008 21:14:56	-I believe that how the two duos met is explained in a short story in Realms of the Dragons. It's not necessary reading, however, if you don't have/want that book. "Wickless In The Nether" is the rather odd title. It's where Artemis got the magic flute as well. I'm halfway through Road Of The Patriarch right now... Meh, so far, so Salvatore. Should I be afraid of the rest of it?
#12 lord_karsus Sep 17, 2008 21:34:50	"Wickless In The Nether" is the rather odd title. It's where Artemis got the magic flute as well. -Yes, that was it.
#13 poison_dusk Sep 17, 2008 22:02:20	Well, Umbral Knight, I hope it was not your intention to ruin the book for me but I think you may have. DOn't get me wrong, I will still read it, but I hope I can try to enjoy it anyway. As for those who answered my questions, thanks. I don't think I care enough to look up the other stories but thanks. Also R.A.'s Saga of the First King series is awesome so far. I love the way he writes combat.
#14 umbralknight Sep 18, 2008 1:50:27	Didn't mean to ruin it for you. Maybe to convince you not to read it maybe, since you won't get that time in your life back. Honestly though, after books one and two I had such high expectations for that book, and about halfway through... I can't even describe it. Maybe you will like it despite me, so here's hoping. But I won't pick up another Salvatore book until he proves to me that he can be consistent again.
#15 lord_karsus Sep 18, 2008 10:45:51	-I'll just say, the ending was very anti-climactic, but it's certainly a twist you won't see coming.
#16 davesaunders Sep 18, 2008 13:10:18	I am going to be reading this books next (Im finishing Servant of the Shard) so I'll let you know what I think of them!
#17 Splurch1 Sep 18, 2008 13:44:06	Actually I rather enjoyed Road of the Patriarch a lot. It was different then a lot of R.A’s work but I liked that aspect of it (it didn’t just feel like another Drizzt book) (& Artemis is my favorite character of his). Just my .02
#18 umbralknight Sep 18, 2008 16:42:05	-I'll just say, the ending was very anti-climactic, but it's certainly a twist you won't see coming. Like a pie in the face when you go to collect your lottery winnings.
#19 poison_dusk Oct 04, 2008 5:23:11	I just finished Road, and I must say, I liked it. The warnings may have helped, as I suspected something that never quite happened, and I am glad of it. I just wonder if there is any further telling of any of the three.
#20 lord_karsus Oct 04, 2008 9:41:31	I just wonder if there is any further telling of any of the three. -After Road of the Patriarch, no. During, and right before the series, there are a few short stories.