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| #1elven_swordsmenSep 28, 2008 10:31:16 | When I first perused the FRPG, I was really intrigued by the Spellscarred 'class.' The design seems innovative and the background provocative. I just read over it again, though, and I was reminded of Aberrant Dragonmarks from Eberron. Now Spellscarred feels much less interesting because the themes are so similar. Thoughts? Kyle |
| #2markustay63Sep 28, 2008 11:00:34 | Yes, WotC wanted to make Drgaonmarks part of the core rules experience, and 'Spellscars' were the way they integrated them into FR. |
| #3serphetSep 28, 2008 15:11:40 | lore wise, not really... mechanic wise... not really... a spellscar is very different in most respects from dragonmarks.. other than they are a magical mark on the body, which dragonmarks where hardly the first of. |
| #4banpaiSep 28, 2008 18:02:28 | When I read the spellscarred powers, I saw that they were kinda split. About half the powers go the "blue fire to attack everything that stands in your way" kinda like Spellfire, or Dragonball, or that chick from Hellboy. I like that part, I love Spelleater and Spellmirror. But there is the other side too, powers that change your body: you bite people , your flesh becomes like mud or gelatenous like a tentacle, you create maws on other people and then they start biting..... They show the freake side, like plaguechanged. I would really love to see more spellscarred powers, maybe even designing a base class arround them. When it comes to the power level, some are nice, but other are quite dissapointing (Scar-Carving Blade I am looking at you ).I am currently expecting that Dragonmarks will get a similar treatment (either that or something like the channel divinity feats) and to be honest, the idea works - it would be awesome if you could still multiclass, but that an easy houserule ![]() |
| #5markustay63Sep 29, 2008 10:26:54 | lore wise, not really... Its a re-flavored Eberron concept pasted into FR. I didn't say it was an exact copy - its just the way they handled a similar concept (that went over well in their other big setting) in the Realms. |
| #6lord_karsusSep 29, 2008 12:10:16 | -Cerulean in in this fall. |
| #7markustay63Sep 29, 2008 14:18:49 | Its the new black. Its true... its TRUE... I saw it on Project Runway. :P |
| #8markusdarkSep 29, 2008 16:54:28 | Its a re-flavored Eberron concept pasted into FR. I see it more of a Dragonmarks meet shadoweave but that's just my opinion. |
| #9lord_karsusSep 29, 2008 20:24:37 | I see it more of a Dragonmarks meet shadoweave but that's just my opinion. -Based on the novel Mistshore, they are apparently much closer related to the Weave, than the Shadow Weave. |
| #10JudgeDookieSep 29, 2008 22:19:01 | -Based on the novel Mistshore, they are apparently much closer related to the Weave, than the Shadow Weave. Speculation--nothing more. It comes at a point where one Spellscarred individual is trying to explain his existence to another. It's why Jesus has me typing on these board--nothing more. ![]() BTW: You read it? |
| #11lord_karsusSep 29, 2008 22:28:14 | -No, nor do I intentions on reading it. It doesn't call out to me. |
| #12markusdarkSep 30, 2008 11:48:16 | -Based on the novel Mistshore, they are apparently much closer related to the Weave, than the Shadow Weave. Ah, well I haven't read any of the novels and don't plan on it so I won't be using any information in them. But thanks for the clarification according to them. |
| #13markustay63Sep 30, 2008 15:59:52 | Just to make myself a little clearer - I LIKE Spellsacars. It was a great way to add the 'Dragonmarked' concept into FR, and its one of the few things I do not have a problem with. In fact, if I wanted to add Dragonmarks to FR, but wanted to make them unique and have their own FR feel, I really doubt I could have done a better conversion myself. Having them be 'last vestiges of the Weave' that somehow attach themselves to people is a VERY cool spin on them as well... its like the Weave shattered and 'little blobs of raw chaos' (magic) got sprinkled everywhere. |
| #14JudgeDookieSep 30, 2008 22:56:07 | To the last three posts: ![]() Now read it and stop being boobs. Your stance against 4e is more sad than respectful. And, be aware, I still don't like 4e and what it has done. But I gave it a chance--in the novels anyway--and have found them enjoyable. Your stalwart negativity is simply dumb. And, before this post is deleted--I LOVE YOU ALL!! :D |
| #15rauricSep 30, 2008 23:13:52 | Little mutant Wildmagic people. After the TOT wlid magic had mutated many ordinary and not so ordinary creatures into something else.This is just putting rules to the procedure. |
| #16ORC_YawgmothSep 30, 2008 23:17:10 | Please keep your posts polite, respectful, and on-topic, and refrain from making personal attacks. |
| #17laetheSep 30, 2008 23:27:43 | Its a re-flavored Eberron concept pasted into FR. Honestly its more like taking a Realms specific concept(Spellfire) and modifying the asthetics to mimic the Dragonmarks of Eberron. |
| #18markusdarkOct 01, 2008 11:48:49 | To the last three posts: I don't see why I need to read novels in order to play a game. If a game requires you to go outside of its ruleset in order for you to enjoy the game, then it is the game that is sad and not my stance. |
| #19elven_swordsmenOct 01, 2008 16:05:09 | Honestly its more like taking a Realms specific concept(Spellfire) and modifying the aesthetics to mimic the Dragonmarks of Eberron. This is basically the point I was trying to make with my OP. At first this re-imagining of spellfire intrigued me, but when I remembered aberrant dragonmarks I felt more like the devs were trying to put the same type of thing into FR. |
| #20BadCatManOct 01, 2008 22:15:48 | The Realms have always been full of people that possess funky magical abilities outside of the ruleset. Like Kern the paladin in Pools Of Twilight that had a natural spell resistance because his mother cast too many spells when she was pregnant, and the sentient illusion of an elf that could pass through walls in the same book. Or the various NPCs that had random Psi powers, that could be seen as either odd hunches or full-blown powers. Or of course, Spellfire and Silver Fire. And there's plenty more scattered around the lore, especially in older editions. I like that the 4e rules can now give a mechanic that allows players to pick up a few such unique abilities without all the effort of becoming a spellcaster or something else. Just take a feat, either for multiclassing or one that gives a power, and its possible, with balance maintained. Though I would have preferred it if the Spellscarred rules had been more generic in flavour and lore, as they really do just look and feel like imported Dragonmarks now. Let players make up their own character backstories. |
| #21lord_karsusOct 01, 2008 22:18:01 | -Listle, the Elf. |
| #22JudgeDookieOct 05, 2008 15:55:52 | I don't see why I need to read novels in order to play a game. If a game requires you to go outside of its ruleset in order for you to enjoy the game, then it is the game that is sad and not my stance. That's not at all what I was saying. The basis of bias relies on the lore of the setting. Play the game how you like, but I imply to give the setting a chance. I like that the 4e rules can now give a mechanic that allows players to pick up a few such unique abilities without all the effort of becoming a spellcaster or something else. Just take a feat, either for multiclassing or one that gives a power, and its possible, with balance maintained. The prob comes with the fact the 3e could have done this just sweetly. As an older fan, I look at this 4e stuff and just think it's ridiculous. This game has become entirely more board game than a roleplaying game. And it bores me. ![]() |