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Spellscarred Implement

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#1
beej_silver
Sep 16, 2008 13:39:26 Basically, which implements are spellscarred implements? It's not mentioned in the MC feat description, so maybe I just missed it.
#2
delroland
Sep 16, 2008 15:45:35 I believe it is intended to use the implement of your base class. If your character doesn't use implements, then they shouldn't take spellscarred powers with the "Implement" tag. That's why there are a bunch of "Weapon" powers to choose from as well.

At least, that's my opinion on first glance.
#3
Malckuss
Sep 16, 2008 17:21:34 I would concure.
#4
Enclave
Sep 17, 2008 1:10:01 That's how I read it as well. Basically, if you're a Swordmage then your sword would be your implement, if you're a Warlock then your rod or pact blade will be your implement, ect...
#5
SYB
Sep 17, 2008 19:55:16 That may be RAI, but it isn't RAW. The spellscarred abilities are treated as a multiclass. Thus, as a "different class", spellscarred has its own specific list of implements (which apparently got left out). Honestly, I prefer the RAI approach... I think. I am leary of the idea of holy symbols as implements for arcane powers.

I guess I really would just like to see what the designers were thinking on this one.

-SYB
#6
Enclave
Sep 17, 2008 20:22:41 Thing is though that Spellscarred isn't a normal multi-class. Every class is supposed to be able to benefit from it.

Think of it like this, martial classes don't require special weapons to use spellscarred martial abilities, why would a caster need a special implement to use spellscarred spell-like abilities? The fact that they flat out neglected to say it needed any specific kind of implement implies that it uses whatever implement your base class utilises.

Spellscars are personal things, nobody is formally trained in being a spellscarred. It makes no sense that there would be a set implement specifically for Spellscarred, each person learns how to utilise their spellscar on their own in their own way, only makes sense that a Staff Wizard would learn to utilise their spellscars magic-like abilities using their staff as their implement.
#7
delroland
Sep 18, 2008 21:55:05 On a related subject, I wonder if using the Purify Spellscarred ritual on an unwilling target would be considered an evil act... :P
#8
Enclave
Sep 19, 2008 1:19:52 Doubt it, the ritual clearly only works on willing people so if you use it on an unwilling person it would just fail.
#9
beej_silver
Sep 19, 2008 2:17:27 Well, I sent a query to CS to get the RAI, as I believe that is the important interpretation of the rules. I hope I'll get an answer within two days (it's my first time to use the CS). Thanks for the answers nonetheless, guys!

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 beej_silver Sep 16, 2008 13:39:26	Basically, which implements are spellscarred implements? It's not mentioned in the MC feat description, so maybe I just missed it.
#2 delroland Sep 16, 2008 15:45:35	I believe it is intended to use the implement of your base class. If your character doesn't use implements, then they shouldn't take spellscarred powers with the "Implement" tag. That's why there are a bunch of "Weapon" powers to choose from as well. At least, that's my opinion on first glance.
#3 Malckuss Sep 16, 2008 17:21:34	I would concure.
#4 Enclave Sep 17, 2008 1:10:01	That's how I read it as well. Basically, if you're a Swordmage then your sword would be your implement, if you're a Warlock then your rod or pact blade will be your implement, ect...
#5 SYB Sep 17, 2008 19:55:16	That may be RAI, but it isn't RAW. The spellscarred abilities are treated as a multiclass. Thus, as a "different class", spellscarred has its own specific list of implements (which apparently got left out). Honestly, I prefer the RAI approach... I think. I am leary of the idea of holy symbols as implements for arcane powers. I guess I really would just like to see what the designers were thinking on this one. -SYB
#6 Enclave Sep 17, 2008 20:22:41	Thing is though that Spellscarred isn't a normal multi-class. Every class is supposed to be able to benefit from it. Think of it like this, martial classes don't require special weapons to use spellscarred martial abilities, why would a caster need a special implement to use spellscarred spell-like abilities? The fact that they flat out neglected to say it needed any specific kind of implement implies that it uses whatever implement your base class utilises. Spellscars are personal things, nobody is formally trained in being a spellscarred. It makes no sense that there would be a set implement specifically for Spellscarred, each person learns how to utilise their spellscar on their own in their own way, only makes sense that a Staff Wizard would learn to utilise their spellscars magic-like abilities using their staff as their implement.
#7 delroland Sep 18, 2008 21:55:05	On a related subject, I wonder if using the Purify Spellscarred ritual on an unwilling target would be considered an evil act... :P
#8 Enclave Sep 19, 2008 1:19:52	Doubt it, the ritual clearly only works on willing people so if you use it on an unwilling person it would just fail.
#9 beej_silver Sep 19, 2008 2:17:27	Well, I sent a query to CS to get the RAI, as I believe that is the important interpretation of the rules. I hope I'll get an answer within two days (it's my first time to use the CS). Thanks for the answers nonetheless, guys!