Anyone have any idea (other than the scars and lowlight vision ability) what these might do?
Maybe like dragonmarks in Eberron?
Maybe like dragonmarks in Eberron?
enough with eberron already. Next thing you know we'll get those dumb warforged
In Rich Baker's novel Swordmage, one of the characters is spellscarred from the spellplague.
Anyone have any idea (other than the scars and lowlight vision ability) what these might do?
Maybe like dragonmarks in Eberron?
As I've read, so far, they may be able to do much of anything. Sort of like a feat or ability that is always in play. Aoth from the Haunted Lands trilogy was ably to see precognitive images and through illusions to a degree.
More or less, see the "truth."
Next thing you know we'll get those dumb warforged
-Bloodforge Golems existed before Warforged, and are very similar.
-That said, one of the Countdown to the Realms articles explains what Spellcscars are, and if I am not mistaken, some of the things (might be all of them, might not) they can do are revealed.
In Rich Baker's novel Swordmage, one of the characters is spellscarred from the spellplague.
Anyone have any idea (other than the scars and lowlight vision ability) what these might do?
Maybe like dragonmarks in Eberron?
I was thinking the same thing. I was pondering this and I hope they use something similar to the Birthright system. For those who don't know, some characters had a fraction of divine blood in them. Depending on how high they rolled at character creation, the better the power was. Instead of rolling, perhaps a making it a feat, or feat tree similar to Eberron. Or have an extra at will for minor Spellscarred characters and encounter or daily powers for those characters who take two or three feats. Perhaps even the equivalent to a low level ritual.
enough with eberron already. Next thing you know we'll get those dumb warforged
I don't play Eberron either, but it was the closest thing I could think of to what a spellscar might be.
Sorry if the "E" word offended you.
I don't play Eberron either, but it was the closest thing I could think of to what a spellscar might be.
Sorry if the "E" word offended you.
I'm not mad at you, of course. Nor am I mad at Eberron, its a solid setting in its own right (with some interesting things and good novels), but enough with the worlds colliding.
...but enough with the worlds colliding.
Like Abeir and Toril?
Like Abeir and Toril?
Yeah. Its like these guys have never seem Seinfeld
My guess is that they will work like the Dragonmarked feats from the Eberron Campaign setting. One feat getting you the weakest version and up on through however many feats they feel necessary to the top. The ranger I'm dreaming up for my next realms game will be spellscarred. I found the idea interesting when I read Swordmage
I really hope they stat her some day :D
I really hope they stat her some day :D
Could be as soon as the campaign setting that's out in August. Swordmage was out in early May and I'd bet that Rich has had some idea of what stats he thinks she should have since he began writing her. If not, I bet we see stats of NPCs (including the new ones) start trickling in via DDI.
I really hope they stat her some day :D
-You could ask him for rough stats in 3e/4e for said characters, if you like.
-You could ask him for rough stats in 3e/4e for said characters, if you like.
Will you just answer for Rich already! Always trying to have people seek facts around here. It's straight up sad, I tell you.
Either way, I would personally hope that they wouldn't stat her. Well, that's a lie, 'cause I'm interested in it myself. But, the moment it begins, we'll be right back where we started with people complaining the NPC's are too powerful. Even if she's only level 8 or something. Sooner or later someone will create a character that's level 10, then level 12....
Will you just answer for Rich already! Always trying to have people seek facts around here. It's straight up sad, I tell you.
-I don't even know who we are talking about, here.
-I don't even know who we are talking about, here.
Uh...Rich Baker...uh...that guy who couldn't be stopped and wrote a book...with a ranger chick...that may or may not have stats...that you may or may not have told somebody to ask about...?
Are you telling me you're failing to answer on behalf of Rich due to a lack of knowledge?!
No!! No!!!
Murder me with a paper clip--this is insane!!!
-I have never even seen a digital image of the cover of Swordmage, let alone actually seen a physical copy of the book.
I'm aware. And find it sad. You would most likely enjoy this novel, as 4e really isn't much of a prominence in the book to begin with.
The chicks Spellscar is probably the only thing that seems out of place from your basic FR novel. If you can stand a human having dark vision because of a birth defect, then you'd be fine with it.
The chicks Spellscar is probably the only thing that seems out of place from your basic FR novel.
is it hot? is it a tramp stamp?
is it hot? is it a tramp stamp?
Well, its not nether region specific, so I can't say for sure.
But, if you're into chicks with luminous eyes, she's the one.
But if they and the arm scar can glow....
Nite Lite!!!
Well, its not nether region specific, so I can't say for sure.
But, if you're into chicks with luminous eyes, she's the one.
But if they and the arm scar can glow....
Nite Lite!!!
well, with the way I look, the darker the better
well, with the way I look, the darker the better
With respect to...some others...agreed.
Along with a nice power I think the scars will have a drawback attached, like lowered magic defences.
Certainly dig glowing glyph tattoos. And you can control the ambient lighting at will.
Along with a nice power I think the scars will have a drawback attached, like lowered magic defences.
-Every kind of "modification" in D&D comes with some kind of drawback, whether it be monetary, physical...
And I don't think any of the characters in the book (with the exception of the Lich who didn't have much page time) were over level 10. My guess is 6-8, but you are right. It does start a sort of arms race of NPC power.
That being said, do you really think they are going to leave Elminster and Drizzt's stats out of the book? Every edition I've played up until this one (2nd, 3rd) has had stats for the novel characters. Could be DDI content this time though.
I think one of the posts (either today June's Previews And Beyond or the old Countdown to the Realms article) mentioned that there were drawbacks to having a spellscar.
I think one of the primary drawbacks will involve social perception. Diplomacy, persuade, and stuff like that will get a negative -2 or something.
And I don't think any of the characters in the book (with the exception of the Lich who didn't have much page time) were over level 10. My guess is 6-8, but you are right. It does start a sort of arms race of NPC power.
I don't either, but it was to make a point.
That being said, do you really think they are going to leave Elminster and Drizzt's stats out of the book? Every edition I've played up until this one (2nd, 3rd) has had stats for the novel characters. Could be DDI content this time though.
I believe stats will be left out of the books, simply because of DDI. It seems they are trying to strip the campaign guide of anything that was perceived as negative. They'll let those people who want this extra fluff go to DDI to get it and leave the rest of the stuff as bare bones as possible.
I'd still like to see some of the stats though, specifically for Kara and for Geran. I'm going to be getting a DDI subscription, so if they put that info there, I'm ok with that too
I thought most spellscars are only visible when activated or turned on. So in normal situations you could supress the lightshow part of the spellscar.
Doesn't appear that is the case. The character in question was born "normal." The spellscar manifested at puberty. As she was a noble, and spellscars are frowned upon, she would have most definitely been forced to hide it if she could.
Besides, its already established that some of these spellscarred abilities are always active, making it impossible to dim the "lightshow."
Doesn't appear that is the case. The character in question was born "normal." The spellscar manifested at puberty. As she was a noble, and spellscars are frowned upon, she would have most definitely been forced to hide it if she could.
Besides, its already established that some of these spellscarred abilities are always active, making it impossible to dim the "lightshow."
yuck
yuck
Uh...yeah...exactly....
Doesn't appear that is the case. The character in question was born "normal." The spellscar manifested at puberty. As she was a noble, and spellscars are frowned upon, she would have most definitely been forced to hide it if she could.
Besides, its already established that some of these spellscarred abilities are always active, making it impossible to dim the "lightshow."
Wow, just like mutant genetic abilities in Marvel Comics?
I thought the idea behind spellscars was more that they were a remnant of having personally been hit by magical energies of the Changelands (or the cerulean fire of the Spellplague, same energy really), not that spellscars could be passed from generation to generation, or that they were things that could show up randomly like mutations.
Wow, just like mutant genetic abilities in Marvel Comics?
I thought the idea behind spellscars was more that they were a remnant of having personally been hit by magical energies of the Changelands (or the cerulean fire of the Spellplague, same energy really), not that spellscars could be passed from generation to generation, or that they were things that could show up randomly like mutations.
Evidently, it gets stuck in the genes and gets passed on. In all actuality, its the only way to do it if you want to keep spellscars alive and well. Most people who survived the Year of Blue Fire would have already passed. And current inhabitants of the Realms know damn well to stay away from the Plaguelands (not Changelands, mon cher manipulateur ;) ).
If spellscars are to be readily available in all regions, it would have to be genetic.
Indeed. But Plaguewrought lands can still pop up in more areas than the Plaguelands only. And some people actually are gonna take a pilgrimage to those areas where little cottages or grand temples with members of the Order of Blue Fire will guide them to aquiring and harnessing a spellscar or plaguechanged body.
Possibly. But nothing is concrete at the moment.
Also, remember that the Order of Blue Fire is a fanatic cult. How many actually venture into the existing blue fire and come out spellscarred, rather than plaguechanged--or dead? Much different stories there.
Evidently, it gets stuck in the genes and gets passed on. In all actuality, its the only way to do it if you want to keep spellscars alive and well. Most people who survived the Year of Blue Fire would have already passed. And current inhabitants of the Realms know damn well to stay away from the Plaguelands (not Changelands, mon cher manipulateur ;) ).
If spellscars are to be readily available in all regions, it would have to be genetic.
Ugh. Seriously?
Ugh. Seriously?
No. I was lying with every word.
No. I was lying with every word.
40 lashes for you!
40 lashes for you!
Fine!!
But I better get some nookie later. This is getting ridiculous.
Fine!!
But I better get some nookie later. This is getting ridiculous.
Nah, I'm not a "withholding" type. Not my way. ;)
Nah, I'm not a "withholding" type. Not my way. ;)
Does that mean I now get 50 lashes, or am I getting some nookie?
Damn, dominant les femmes.
Does that mean I now get 50 lashes, or am I getting some nookie?
Damn, dominant les femmes.
Well, the "50 lashes" are required for the creation of your new spellscar, "Nookie Attraction +100".
Well, the "50 lashes" are required for the creation of your new spellscar, "Nookie Attraction +100".
Lash the s*it out of me--take it to 100!
I can take it. I can take it, damn you!!
Lash the s*it out of me--take it to 100!
I can take it. I can take it, damn you!!
There's a good boy! We'll have it activate when you wink, and there will be a little cerulean flash of light. Suddenly the room gets a little warmer, and the girls are all 100% "friendlier"! Heh! :D
There's a good boy! We'll have it activate when you wink, and there will be a little cerulean flash of light. Suddenly the room gets a little warmer, and the girls are all 100% "friendlier"! Heh! :D
Damn it!!
Manipulated again.
So much for being your petit trésor. I really am but a doudou.
Damn it!!
Manipulated again.
So much for being your petit trésor. I really am but a doudou.
It allows you to attract all the nookie you want, what's wrong with that? :D
It allows you to attract all the nookie you want, what's wrong with that? :D
Just give me the nookie. Please!!
Just give me the nookie. Please!!
Yeesh, every 3 hours? Alright.
**nookie**
Yeesh, every 3 hours? Alright.
**nookie**
Every hour, at least.
Mmmmmm...*nookie*
Wait? Are we doing this in front of everyone?
Every hour, at least.
Mmmmmm...*nookie*
Wait? Are we doing this in front of everyone?
As if you've never...
JudgeDookie post-spellscar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXY2EeDQOzw
I think Elminster and Lhaeo made it into part of the video, sadly. ;)
As if you've never...
JudgeDookie post-spellscar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXY2EeDQOzw
I think Elminster and Lhaeo made it into part of the video, sadly. ;)
Dear, Bejebuz. Why did I never watch that amazing show?
It allows you to attract all the nookie you want, what's wrong with that? :D
You are very confusing and strangely arrousing. That said since spellscars are the new tribal tatoos with the added benefit of getting new powers and to have a night light.
It´s worth the whip, but only if administered by a professional woman in suitable attire (Loviatar really wants to hold up the standards) with suitable experience. ;)
While I am at it the char is IMO a (sexy) female human (sexy) ranger with warlord multiclass feats and the (sexy) level 1 feat.
You are very confusing and strangely arrousing. That said since spellscars are the new tribal tatoos with the added benefit of getting new powers and to have a night light.
It´s worth the whip, but only if administered by a professional woman in suitable attire (Loviatar really wants to hold up the standards) with suitable experience. ;)
While I am at it the char is IMO a (sexy) female human (sexy) ranger with warlord multiclass feats and the (sexy) level 1 feat.
You have no idea what you are getting into.
And please don't tell her she is arousing in any manner. Her ego simlpy explodes.
You have no idea what you are getting into.
And please don't tell her she is arousing in any manner. Her ego simlpy explodes.
Charisma: 22 (unmodified).
@Therise: We know itt´s so obvious, but of course this makes you a succubus or a nymph with these stats. I wonder which :D
As if you've never...
JudgeDookie post-spellscar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXY2EeDQOzw
I think Elminster and Lhaeo made it into part of the video, sadly. ;)
Oo!
That's FUNKY!
Nice baseline on that song!
Loviatarrans leading Orders of the Blue Fire... Ah the possibilities to combine the wicked sexy mistresses with spellscar enhanced lashes of pain will lead to plaguewrought frontiers being brokenly popular.
Charisma: 22 (unmodified).
Suppose I have yet to see the charm, rather than the whip.
@JudgeDookie: Spellscars rock - and they are sexy
@Therise: We know itt´s so obvious, but of course this makes you a succubus or a nymph with these stats. I wonder which :D
I'm an adherent of Sune, one of her Chosen. Did I not mention this before?
I'm an adherent of Sune, one of her Chosen. Did I not mention this before?
No you did not, but does this mean that you get access to the pool, can you bring company?
No you did not, but does this mean that you get access to the pool, can you bring company?
That's what the pool is for!
That's what the pool is for!
Well since Sunes favored weapon is the Silken Sash I guess I guess you would are even qualified to administer spellscars - can I have a spellscar like Sunes holy Symbol on my back? It would look incredible while pooling. Maybe with some kind of see thorugh cloth power please . ;)
Well since Sunes favored weapon is the Silken Sash I guess I guess you would are even qualified to administer spellscars - can I have a spellscar like Sunes holy Symbol on my back? It would look incredible while pooling. Maybe with some kind of see thorugh cloth power please . ;)
Its a scar. Only Al Pacino looks good with a scar.
You? Eh.
Actually, I read on the site somewhere it mentioned spellscars, but damn my ADD, I can't remember where or what! Guess I'll just have to wait until August.
And Merrickcale, I have seen Seinfeld!
And I realize that some people don't want anything to do with the "New" Realms or the "New" edition of D&D (I have a friend like this, he swears he'll never read any of the core books). Can I say that I read the novel because it was a Forgotten Realms novel. Only in a few places did they ever mention anything about Spellplagues, the wastelands (or whatever) and spellscars. It was a good read about adventurers in the Moonsea Isles.
And Merrickcale, I have seen Seinfeld!
JudgeDookie is a bad man, he's a very very bad man
Actually, I read on the site somewhere it mentioned spellscars, but damn my ADD, I can't remember where or what! Guess I'll just have to wait until August.
-As I said (I believe I did), one of the Countdown to the Realms goes into a little detail about them.
I'm an adherent of Sune, one of her Chosen. Did I not mention this before?
You're delusional and have a whip. That's as far as it goes.
JudgeDookie is a bad man, he's a very very bad man
I'm, a f*ckin' angel! :angelhide
You'll never be my lawyer--thats for sure.
Its a scar. Only Al Pacino looks good with a scar.
You? Eh.
You're delusional and have a whip. That's as far as it goes.
I'm, a f*ckin' angel! :angelhide
You'll never be my lawyer--thats for sure.
Well I guess Therise will have to put you in chains first. And Spellscars can look any way they want, and scaring could be the new thing after tatoos and branding.
A sorcerer hunter amv - explains why you need the whip so badly. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWWbE4RtHSI
Well I guess Therise will have to put you in chains first. And Spellscars can look any way they want, and scaring could be the new thing after tatoos and branding.
A sorcerer hunter amv - explains why you need the whip so badly. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWWbE4RtHSI
Eh. I'm down with the sickness, but definitely not that toon.
Spellscars could look like body paint on Mariah Carey. Still doesn't mean they will be "fab."
Back to bed with me...too much anime tires me.
Eh. I'm down with the sickness, but definitely not that toon.
Spellscars could look like body paint on Mariah Carey. Still doesn't mean they will be "fab."
Back to bed with me...too much anime tires me.
Well I took a video without fetisch gear to post, but in the anime the main character is always wipped so he comes back to his old self after transforming into a horny demon monster thing and saving the day. sooo well I guess you don´t neet all that much whipping after all.
JudgeDookie is a bad man, he's a very very bad man
:evillaugh :heehee
-As I said (I believe I did), one of the Countdown to the Realms goes into a little detail about them.
I think you did, and I do remember seeing the article, I just don't recall much about it.
I'm, a f*ckin' angel! :angelhide
You'll never be my lawyer--thats for sure.
I'm not very familiar with the public lewdness laws so I wouldn't be much help to you anyway:D
Well I guess Therise will have to put you in chains first. And Spellscars can look any way they want, and scaring could be the new thing after tatoos and branding.
A sorcerer hunter amv - explains why you need the whip so badly. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWWbE4RtHSI
Heh, I think I'll pass on the chains and the scarring. Sune-worshipper, remember? No scars or brands for this chick. Tattoos done well, some of those can be quite nice, though. :D
I think of spellscars as more of a mystical tattoo. With glowy special effects.
Well I took a video without fetisch gear to post, but in the anime the main character is always wipped so he comes back to his old self after transforming into a horny demon monster thing and saving the day. sooo well I guess you don´t neet all that much whipping after all.
I don't need any. But, when you are a doudou, you simply take what you get.
I'm not very familiar with the public lewdness laws so I wouldn't be much help to you anyway:D
I was manipulated,. I assure you, I do not own a trench coat.
Heh, I think I'll pass on the chains and the scarring. Sune-worshipper, remember? No scars or brands for this chick. Tattoos done well, some of those can be quite nice, though. :D
I think of spellscars as more of a mystical tattoo. With glowy special effects.
I don't know. They sort of remind me of the cyborganic replacements in Star Wars for some reason. Granted, these are two different things, but they just seem to stick out as a sore thumb in a way. Not so much mystical as an impediment to the natural way of things.
I think you did, and I do remember seeing the article, I just don't recall much about it.
-It basically explained- without too much detail- what Spellscars are, what they did, who has them, and some of the implications.
I don't know. They sort of remind me of the cyborganic replacements in Star Wars for some reason. Granted, these are two different things, but they just seem to stick out as a sore thumb in a way. Not so much mystical as an impediment to the natural way of things.
Depend how "natural" magic is in your Realms. The Weave used to imply life was linked to the weave, but apparently that was a lie. The 15th century realms have life even generate magic of its own (my view of the more magical exploits, Fey pacts and Primal powersource). A spellscar is something that is a relic of the old weave, scarring those who got changed by its wild magics. It's a little bit of the essence of Mystra that gives the bearer some inate or intiuitive control over its spellscars powers.
Depend how "natural" magic is in your Realms. The Weave used to imply life was linked to the weave, but apparently that was a lie. The 15th century realms have life even generate magic of its own (my view of the more magical exploits, Fey pacts and Primal powersource). A spellscar is something that is a relic of the old weave, scarring those who got changed by its wild magics. It's a little bit of the essence of Mystra that gives the bearer some inate or intiuitive control over its spellscars powers.
do we know what kinds of powers are given? What does the ranger have in Swordmage for example?
do we know what kinds of powers are given? What does the ranger have in Swordmage for example?
Lowlight vision...really can't remember anything else.
She was quite feared and respected, but I think that was more to skill than scar.
Lowlight vision...really can't remember anything else.
Well, at least they are not as powerful as dragonmarks
Lowlight vision...really can't remember anything else.
She was quite feared and respected, but I think that was more to skill than scar.
Yeah I'm not sure, but it's possible she just did not use whatever power was attached to it. They may be saving that for later books. There are two more in the series after all.
In game terms, this scar will need to be bought. Since one scar gives one power, you'll need to spend more for an additional scar and an additional power.
Wish I was more into the mechanics, so I could give a better example.