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#1 samurai_zero May 10, 2009 11:39:39	i want to build a stormlord for a campaign that a friend of mine is doing. Ill be starting out as a cleric to help with support healing but overall im not exactly sure what to invest in. The class its self seems to want to focus on spears, if not javelins. any help is wanted
#2 draco_strang May 10, 2009 14:46:44	Yes, Stormlord is rather spear-centric, isn't it? That's probably because Talos is a storm god, and his favored weapon is the javelin/spear. Kind of meshes with lightning bolts and all...ya know. If your DM is cool with it, you could maybe switch favored weapons, or swap out a few class abilities to help fine-tune what you want? Another good option is the Sea Witch, from [i]Stormwrack[/I. However, to be more helpful, we need more information.
#3 samurai_zero May 10, 2009 15:32:40	sorry i posted this in the wrong area. dont know how to delete it tho.
#4 lord_karsus May 13, 2009 11:30:10	-What part(s) of the Stormlord is it that you are wanting to change/replace/alter?
#5 bronzebeard May 18, 2009 13:26:08	What part(s) of the Stormlord is it that you are wanting to change/replace/alter? Second that.
#6 warweaver May 18, 2009 16:30:09	In my campaign, I had a dwarf player who wanted to be a Stormlord of Thor. We just replaced all the mentions of "spear" or "javelin" with "hammer" (of any kind). He enjoyed it quite a lot.
#7 Diffan May 19, 2009 20:09:07	i want to build a stormlord for a campaign that a friend of mine is doing. Ill be starting out as a cleric to help with support healing but overall im not exactly sure what to invest in. The class its self seems to want to focus on spears, if not javelins. any help is wanted. Well, for starters I'd suggest being Human. The bonus feat and 4 skill points at 1st level is awesome. Plus, you'll need that extra feat to gain access into the Stormlord PrC faster (Cleric 5/ Stormlord 1). You say you want to be a supporting healer, so I'd suggest you go with a Chaotic Neutral alignment and turn undead rather than rebuke them. This will allow you to spontaneously cast cure spells, thus freeing up you spell-slots with non-healing spells and giving you more diversity. For a feat progression, going with a Cleric/Stormlord only build, I'd suggest this:
#8 borris May 21, 2009 6:24:30	Since Talos is am evil god, his cleric annot choose to turn undead. Even a neutral cleric of Talos rebukes undead, and can convert spells into inflict but not cure spells. So unless you intend to use the Divine Metamagic feats, Charisma isn't an important stat. Talos would rather see you destroy undead than control them. He'd rather see you destroy most creatures, actually. Besides, your turning won't improve with the Stormlord levels anyway. As soon as you can, get your hands on Gloves of Endless Javelins (Magic Item Compendium; 11,000 gp). As the name implied, it allows you to create temporary javelins as a free action. It's probably best to get Weapon Focus (javelin) as a feat instead of Weapon Focus (spear). Javelins gets automatically boosted to +3 weapons by the Stromlord's abilities, but spears don't. Don't forget a javelin can be used in melee at a -4 penalty. It's still good to carry a spear in case you get stuck in melee. While you're at it, make sure it's a special material spear: I'd say either cold iron or silver depending on whether you're more likely to fight demons and fey or devils and lycantrhopes. You'll want to learn and prepare air walk as soon as possible. Just walk on the air 30 feet above your enemies, and let the +3 thundering shocking burst javelins rain down on them. Make the character human (or perhaps ghostwise halfling) so you can actually enter the class at 6th level. One option is to make a character with low Dex (12 is best if you intend to wear full-plate). Get a very high Str score and take the Power Throw feat, which allows you to use your Str modifier instead of Dex on thrown weapons. When buffing yourself with spells like bull'S strength, divine power, or righteous might, not only will your javelins deal more damage, but you'll have a higher chance to hit, to. I'd prioritize stats in the following order: Wis, Str, Con, Int, Dex, Cha. And I'd go with the Fire and Destruction domains. Chaos and Evil aren't so great, and rare are the campaigns where you fight that much good or lawful enemies. Storm is nice, but you'll already get the electricity resistance from your prestige class. As for the final 5 levels, there are plenty of better options than 5 more levels of Cleric. Consider Contemplative and Divine Oracle (both in Complete Divine) or Divine Disciple (Player's Guide to Faerûn).
#9 Diffan May 21, 2009 6:52:04	Since Talos is am evil god, his cleric annot choose to turn undead. Even a neutral cleric of Talos rebukes undead, and can convert spells into inflict but not cure spells. So unless you intend to use the Divine Metamagic feats, Charisma isn't an important stat. I forgot that Talos was evil, so no spontaneous cure spells. However, I strongly suggest you ask your DM about allowing your character to take a flaw. This will grant you an additional feat at 1st level in which you can use to take the Spontaneous Healer feat from Complete Divine if your of a Chaotic Neutral alignment. Talos would rather see you destroy undead than control them. He'd rather see you destroy most creatures, actually. Besides, your turning won't improve with the Stormlord levels anyway. Which is exactly why you should take the DMM (divine metamagic) feats. At higher levels, rebuking undead is pointless and your left with a class feature that does nothing. Turn that useless rebuking attempts into something worth while. If Quicken Spell doesn't do anything for you, then an alternative is Persist Spell. It takes more turn attempts, but you can persist awesome spells for 24 hours (yay Righteous Might)! As soon as you can, get your hands on Gloves of Endless Javelins (Magic Item Compendium; 11,000 gp). As the name implied, it allows you to create temporary javelins as a free action. I second this. It's probably best to get Weapon Focus (javelin) as a feat instead of Weapon Focus (spear). Javelins gets automatically boosted to +3 weapons by the Stromlord's abilities, but spears don't. Don't forget a javelin can be used in melee at a -4 penalty. Why waste a feat boosting an already enhanced weapon? With a feat for the Spear, you can actually do some good in melee without resorting to javelins and that pesky -4 penalty. Plus, a shortspear will allow you to also wield a shield and thus make your AC much higher. It's still good to carry a spear in case you get stuck in melee. While you're at it, make sure it's a special material spear: I'd say either cold iron or silver depending on whether you're more likely to fight demons and fey or devils and lycantrhopes. Seconded! Also Adamantine works well, espically at higher levels. air walk[/i] as soon as possible. Just walk on the air 30 feet above your enemies, and let the +3 thundering shocking burst javelins rain down on them. Make the character human (or perhaps ghostwise halfling) so you can actually enter the class at 6th level. Both good points One option is to make a character with low Dex (12 is best if you intend to wear full-plate). Get a very high Str score and take the Power Throw feat, which allows you to use your Str modifier instead of Dex on thrown weapons. When buffing yourself with spells like bull'S strength, divine power, or righteous might, not only will your javelins deal more damage, but you'll have a higher chance to hit, to. I'd prioritize stats in the following order: Wis, Str, Con, Int, Dex, Cha. Don't forget to buff your allies as well with Righteous Wrath of the Faithful and Recitation (both found in the Spell Compendium). And I'd go with the Fire and Destruction domains. Chaos and Evil aren't so great, and rare are the campaigns where you fight that much good or lawful enemies. Storm is nice, but you'll already get the electricity resistance from your prestige class. Yea, I'm pretty sure the resistancs don't stack, but talk to your DM about it. As for the final 5 levels, there are plenty of better options than 5 more levels of Cleric. Consider Contemplative and Divine Oracle (both in Complete Divine) or Divine Disciple (Player's Guide to Faerûn). True, 5 levels of standard cleric aren't that great. But if your going with the Destruction domain, well it's a pointless domain power when you can smite for a whopping 5 extra damage. Contemplative isn't terrible, but the poor BAB is definitly a bad choice since your supposed to wield much destruction. Divine Oracle isn't bad either, and I'd probably go with that or better yet the Divine Disciple from the Player's Guide for the full 5 levels of progression you gain from that class.

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samurai_zero

May 10, 2009 11:39:39

i want to build a stormlord for a campaign that a friend of mine is doing. Ill be starting out as a cleric to help with support healing but overall im not exactly sure what to invest in. The class its self seems to want to focus on spears, if not javelins. any help is wanted

draco_strang

May 10, 2009 14:46:44

Yes, Stormlord is rather spear-centric, isn't it? That's probably because Talos is a storm god, and his favored weapon is the javelin/spear. Kind of meshes with lightning bolts and all...ya know.

If your DM is cool with it, you could maybe switch favored weapons, or swap out a few class abilities to help fine-tune what you want? Another good option is the Sea Witch, from [i]Stormwrack[/I.

However, to be more helpful, we need more information.

samurai_zero

May 10, 2009 15:32:40

sorry i posted this in the wrong area. dont know how to delete it tho.

lord_karsus

May 13, 2009 11:30:10

-What part(s) of the Stormlord is it that you are wanting to change/replace/alter?

bronzebeard

May 18, 2009 13:26:08

What part(s) of the Stormlord is it that you are wanting to change/replace/alter?

Second that.

warweaver

May 18, 2009 16:30:09

In my campaign, I had a dwarf player who wanted to be a Stormlord of Thor. We just replaced all the mentions of "spear" or "javelin" with "hammer" (of any kind). He enjoyed it quite a lot.

Diffan

May 19, 2009 20:09:07

i want to build a stormlord for a campaign that a friend of mine is doing. Ill be starting out as a cleric to help with support healing but overall im not exactly sure what to invest in. The class its self seems to want to focus on spears, if not javelins. any help is wanted.

Well, for starters I'd suggest being Human. The bonus feat and 4 skill points at 1st level is awesome. Plus, you'll need that extra feat to gain access into the Stormlord PrC faster (Cleric 5/ Stormlord 1).

You say you want to be a supporting healer, so I'd suggest you go with a Chaotic Neutral alignment and turn undead rather than rebuke them. This will allow you to spontaneously cast cure spells, thus freeing up you spell-slots with non-healing spells and giving you more diversity.

For a feat progression, going with a Cleric/Stormlord only build, I'd suggest this:

borris

May 21, 2009 6:24:30

Since Talos is am evil god, his cleric annot choose to turn undead. Even a neutral cleric of Talos rebukes undead, and can convert spells into inflict but not cure spells. So unless you intend to use the Divine Metamagic feats, Charisma isn't an important stat. Talos would rather see you destroy undead than control them. He'd rather see you destroy most creatures, actually. Besides, your turning won't improve with the Stormlord levels anyway.

As soon as you can, get your hands on Gloves of Endless Javelins (Magic Item Compendium; 11,000 gp). As the name implied, it allows you to create temporary javelins as a free action.

It's probably best to get Weapon Focus (javelin) as a feat instead of Weapon Focus (spear). Javelins gets automatically boosted to +3 weapons by the Stromlord's abilities, but spears don't. Don't forget a javelin can be used in melee at a -4 penalty.
It's still good to carry a spear in case you get stuck in melee. While you're at it, make sure it's a special material spear: I'd say either cold iron or silver depending on whether you're more likely to fight demons and fey or devils and lycantrhopes.

You'll want to learn and prepare air walk as soon as possible. Just walk on the air 30 feet above your enemies, and let the +3 thundering shocking burst javelins rain down on them.

Make the character human (or perhaps ghostwise halfling) so you can actually enter the class at 6th level.
One option is to make a character with low Dex (12 is best if you intend to wear full-plate). Get a very high Str score and take the Power Throw feat, which allows you to use your Str modifier instead of Dex on thrown weapons. When buffing yourself with spells like bull'S strength, divine power, or righteous might, not only will your javelins deal more damage, but you'll have a higher chance to hit, to. I'd prioritize stats in the following order: Wis, Str, Con, Int, Dex, Cha.

And I'd go with the Fire and Destruction domains. Chaos and Evil aren't so great, and rare are the campaigns where you fight that much good or lawful enemies. Storm is nice, but you'll already get the electricity resistance from your prestige class.

As for the final 5 levels, there are plenty of better options than 5 more levels of Cleric. Consider Contemplative and Divine Oracle (both in Complete Divine) or Divine Disciple (Player's Guide to Faerûn).

Diffan

May 21, 2009 6:52:04

Since Talos is am evil god, his cleric annot choose to turn undead. Even a neutral cleric of Talos rebukes undead, and can convert spells into inflict but not cure spells. So unless you intend to use the Divine Metamagic feats, Charisma isn't an important stat.

I forgot that Talos was evil, so no spontaneous cure spells. However, I strongly suggest you ask your DM about allowing your character to take a flaw. This will grant you an additional feat at 1st level in which you can use to take the Spontaneous Healer feat from Complete Divine if your of a Chaotic Neutral alignment.

Talos would rather see you destroy undead than control them. He'd rather see you destroy most creatures, actually. Besides, your turning won't improve with the Stormlord levels anyway.

Which is exactly why you should take the DMM (divine metamagic) feats. At higher levels, rebuking undead is pointless and your left with a class feature that does nothing. Turn that useless rebuking attempts into something worth while. If Quicken Spell doesn't do anything for you, then an alternative is Persist Spell. It takes more turn attempts, but you can persist awesome spells for 24 hours (yay Righteous Might)!

As soon as you can, get your hands on Gloves of Endless Javelins (Magic Item Compendium; 11,000 gp). As the name implied, it allows you to create temporary javelins as a free action.

I second this.

It's probably best to get Weapon Focus (javelin) as a feat instead of Weapon Focus (spear). Javelins gets automatically boosted to +3 weapons by the Stromlord's abilities, but spears don't. Don't forget a javelin can be used in melee at a -4 penalty.

Why waste a feat boosting an already enhanced weapon? With a feat for the Spear, you can actually do some good in melee without resorting to javelins and that pesky -4 penalty. Plus, a shortspear will allow you to also wield a shield and thus make your AC much higher.

It's still good to carry a spear in case you get stuck in melee. While you're at it, make sure it's a special material spear: I'd say either cold iron or silver depending on whether you're more likely to fight demons and fey or devils and lycantrhopes.

Seconded! Also Adamantine works well, espically at higher levels.

air walk[/i] as soon as possible. Just walk on the air 30 feet above your enemies, and let the +3 thundering shocking burst javelins rain down on them.

Make the character human (or perhaps ghostwise halfling) so you can actually enter the class at 6th level.

Both good points

One option is to make a character with low Dex (12 is best if you intend to wear full-plate). Get a very high Str score and take the Power Throw feat, which allows you to use your Str modifier instead of Dex on thrown weapons. When buffing yourself with spells like bull'S strength, divine power, or righteous might, not only will your javelins deal more damage, but you'll have a higher chance to hit, to. I'd prioritize stats in the following order: Wis, Str, Con, Int, Dex, Cha.

Don't forget to buff your allies as well with Righteous Wrath of the Faithful and Recitation (both found in the Spell Compendium).

And I'd go with the Fire and Destruction domains. Chaos and Evil aren't so great, and rare are the campaigns where you fight that much good or lawful enemies. Storm is nice, but you'll already get the electricity resistance from your prestige class.

Yea, I'm pretty sure the resistancs don't stack, but talk to your DM about it.

As for the final 5 levels, there are plenty of better options than 5 more levels of Cleric. Consider Contemplative and Divine Oracle (both in Complete Divine) or Divine Disciple (Player's Guide to Faerûn).

True, 5 levels of standard cleric aren't that great. But if your going with the Destruction domain, well it's a pointless domain power when you can smite for a whopping 5 extra damage. Contemplative isn't terrible, but the poor BAB is definitly a bad choice since your supposed to wield much destruction. Divine Oracle isn't bad either, and I'd probably go with that or better yet the Divine Disciple from the Player's Guide for the full 5 levels of progression you gain from that class.