Hello, I'm thinking of converting the epic versions of the NPCs from Baldur's Gate II and Throne of Bhaal that could still be around to 4E (I hope there wasn't already a thread like this but I couldn't find one) especially since most of the epic destinies have some kind of immortality. However I'm unclear on how to convert the classes of some of them.
Aerie: Elf, cleric, paragon-mulitclassing in wizard.
Anomen: Human, cleric, multiclassing in paladin
Cernd: Human, druid (Bloodmoon Stalker?)
Edwin: Human, wizard
Haer'Dalis: Tiefling, bard, paragon-multiclassing into ranger? The other way around?
Imoen: Human, rogue paragon-multilcassing into wizard? Or the other way around? Sure, she started out as a rogue, but in the end she was more wizard than anything else.
Jaheira: Half-elf. druid/fighter hybrid
Jan: Gnome, wizard/rogue?
Keldorn: Human, paladin, Champion of Order.
Korgan: Dwarf, fighter
Mazzy: Halfling, fighter (maybe multiclassed into paladin? Was it ever explained why suddenly non-humans could become paladines since 3rd edition?)
Minsc: Human, ranger? Somehow he strikes me more as a battlerager fighter or a barbarian that multiclassed into ranger, if at all.
Nalia: Human, wizard, with Thievery through a multiclass rogue feat.
Sarevok: Human, fighter or cliché "evil warlord"? His Int would be high enough for an inspiring warlord.
Valygar: Human, ranger
Viconia: Drow, cleric of Shar
Yoshimo: Human, rogue (if we see the Katana as a rapier instead of a bastard sword). Or something else with thievery and stealth?
Abdel (PC): Tiefling fighter (I wrote up the Bhaalspawn stuff as a specialized form of tiefling or other planetouched)
Ajantis Ilvastarr: Human paladin of Helm (Helm houseruled)
Branwen: Human cleric of Tempus
Coran: Elf rogue-fighter hybrid (mostly because 2e multiclassing is more like 4e hybrids than 4e multiclassing)
Dynaheir: Human cleric/wizard hybrid (given 3e's rule about the hathrans using both divine and arcane magic - possibly will make her a druid instead since divine and primal are now different)
Edwin Odeisseron: Human wizard
Eldoth: Human bard multiclassed as rogue (mostly because 2e bards are a bit like 3e and 4e rogues as well as for his backstory)
Faldorn: Human druid
Garrick: Human bard
Imoen: Tiefling (see Abdel) rogue multiclassed as wizard - toying with the idea of making here a rogue/wizard hybrid instead
Jaheira: Half-elven druid-fighter hybrid
Khalid: Half-elven fighter
Kivan: Elven ranger
Minsc: Human ranger multiclassed as barbarian (the class didn't exist in 2e but Minsc wouldn't been one if the games had been 3e instead)
Montaron: Halfling rogue
Quayle: Gnomish invoker/wizard hybrid (not only are wizards and invokers similar, but his backstory suggests "natural" talent over clerical training)
Safana: Human rogue
Shar-Teel: Human fighter
Viconia: Drow cleric
Xan: Eladrin wizard
Xzar: Human wizard
Yeslick: Dwarven paladin of Moradin (cleric/fighters are basically now paladins)
I only disagree with two things. 1) The race of the main character and Imoen. There was a Bhaalspawn template in 3E that could be added to a dragon, fey, giant, humanoid, monstrous humanoid, outsider or shapechanger
http://www.crystalkeep.com/d20/rules/DnD3.0Index-Templates.pdf p. 11 Maybe there should be some kind of graft in 4E
2) Minsc's class. Even though he was a ranger he used normally a greatsword. The new rangers have to specialise either with two melee weapons or bows (or animal companion, but Boo doesn't qualify for that). I think that in 4E he would be a barbarian or fighter with Berserker's Fury. Of course that depends on the point of view.:D
do him as
Cernd male longtooth shifter : druid/ shifter racial PP
as for kivan and Coran, before they get labeled off as elve, you might want to identify which elf branch they were in the first place.
and if one wanted to leave Yeslick asa Cleric then cleric/warpriest..
Thanks. I absolutely didn't think of hybrid multiclassing, it's a great idea!
1) The race of the main character and Imoen. There was a Bhaalspawn template in 3E that could be added to a dragon, fey, giant, humanoid, monstrous humanoid, outsider or shapechanger
http://www.crystalkeep.com/d20/rules/DnD3.0Index-Templates.pdf p. 11 Maybe there should be some kind of graft in 4E
It was my call and I don't expect everyone to agree with it. I'll admit it's a bit iffy and the main reason I went with it was A) I didn't want to make either character a cambion or close equivalent and B) Races of Faerun and the FRPG both seem to indicate some tieflings are the children of gods (Scion of the Gods feat sticks out to me from the latter). But again, it's a matter of opinion and I know that in 3e they weren't considered tieflings.
2) Minsc's class. Even though he was a ranger he used normally a greatsword. The new rangers have to specialise either with two melee weapons or bows (or animal companion, but Boo doesn't qualify for that). I think that in 4E he would be a barbarian or fighter with Berserker's Fury. Of course that depends on the point of view.:D
I almost agree with you here. But not quite, since he is, officially, a ranger. Perhaps a barbarian with ranger multiclassing instead of the other way around?
As for the elves, I think Kivan was pretty much set as a wood elf, which would be elf in 4E. Coran I'm not sure on - I didn't take him in the game, probably eladrin but I'm not sure. I do not remember what the Avariel were in 4E, but as a wingless one Aerie is imo more likely to be an eladrin than an elf.
Aerie, Eladrin Invoker, with a couple of Cleric multi-class feats. You get Channel Divinity, area attacks, a little bit of healing, some useful rituals.
Anomen, Human Cleric (Warpriest paragon path). One of the simplest, imo.
Cernd, Shifter Druid. He would work better if there were shapeshifter feats similar to the Spellscarred or Vampiric ones.
Edwin, Human Wizard, Staff of Defence. With Arcane Power he gets a fair number of summoning spells.
Haer'Dalis, Tiefling Bravura Warlord. Maybe with a little Warlock m/c love added. No bard.
Imoen, Human Rogue, Paragon m/c Wizard with Wand of Accuracy. The only way I can really match what she does in the games, though I thought about a straight Wizard with m/c Rogue.
Jaheira, Haf-elf Warden. Her half-elf dilletante power should be from Druid, and perhaps some more m/c powers too but they aren't entirely necessary.
Jan, Gnome Artificer. Looks tailor-made for him, but until the EPG comes out I won't be sure.
Keldorn, human Paladin. Maybe m/c with Warlord. Knight Captain paragon path looks suitable.
Korgan, Dwarf battlerager Fighter. 'nuff said.
Mazzy, Hafling Ranger? or perhaps Warlord? I like the second idea better, but while there are thrown weapon Warlords I can't really come up with an archery one.
Minsc, Human Barbarian. Pick up relevant skills for Stealth and Survival, and a hamster for the Ranger aspect.
Nalia, Human Wizard (Wand of Accuracy), trained in Stealth, Jack-of-all-Trades feat. Not a full blown rogue, just a wizard with some training and aptitude.
Sarevok, Human Fighter. Maybe a Tactical Warlord instead, but while he's smart he doesn't do much that seems tactical.
Valygar, Human Ranger, two-weapon build. Not hard to do.
Viconia, Drow devoted Cleric. Though I could see some sort of Invoker work.
Yoshimo, Human Avenger. While he's not religious, it seems like a better fit than Rogue, although you need Stealth and Thievery as skills.
As for Cernd.
do him as
Cernd male longtooth shifter : druid/ shifter racial PP
Now I got that suggestion two times, and I would like to know why. I had him only a very short time in the party, was there something about him being a descendant of lycanthropes? Or is it just because he had the shifter kit?
It was my call and I don't expect everyone to agree with it. I'll admit it's a bit iffy and the main reason I went with it was A) I didn't want to make either character a cambion or close equivalent and B) Races of Faerun and the FRPG both seem to indicate some tieflings are the children of gods (Scion of the Gods feat sticks out to me from the latter). But again, it's a matter of opinion and I know that in 3e they weren't considered tieflings.
Okay, I just wondered, because most of the bosses of ToB would be hard to make as tieflings.;)
I almost agree with you here. But not quite, since he is, officially, a ranger. Perhaps a barbarian with ranger multiclassing instead of the other way around?
I think rageblood barbarian (secondary role defender of his witch) with Warrior of the Wild for training in Stealth would be perfect.
Btw Haer-dalis could work as a fighter/bard hybrid - I'm not very clear on fighter hybrids, but Martial Power had a 2-weapon fighter that could work quite well for his martial side. Maybe Viconia could work better as an avenger or invoker than cleric? For some reason I think she works much better as a assassin-ish character or a divine blaster.
I like the idea for Haer-dalis, I just looked it up, and the tempest gets boni for fighting with off-hand weapons like shortswords.:D Hybrid characters can get it with a feat.
Viconia was most of the time on healing duty in my group because she was the only single-class divine spellcaster I had. I could maybe think of her as an invoker but an avenger? That's primary a melee class that normally doesn't use shields.
I do not remember what the Avariel were in 4E, but as a wingless one Aerie is imo more likely to be an eladrin than an elf.
Hm, I just looked around and found the following stats for Avariel in another thread. Dex +4, Con -2, Int +2, Wis +2. So a grounded avariel could be either as long as they don't get a proper race. I would tend towards elf because of the speed (light bones) and the wisdom modifier because for me she always was first cleric and then wizard. But this is really a matter of taste.;)
I was thinking about this last year when 4e first came out, but it wasn't entirely practical then. Now I think it may be. Personally I would be more inclined to go for a "feel" than worry about keeping the class name, and not particularly willing to use hybrid classes unless I can't find another way to do things.
I'm for the feel too, but I have nothing against hybrid multiclassing if it helps to realise the concept of the character.
I like most of your suggestions, however I don’t understand some.
1. Aerie an invoker? She always struck me more as the healing caring type who could blast too with wizard powers.
2. Haer’Dalis. While warlord has the same role as bard with other key attributes, I don’t think it would reflect him well. And I think even though they didn’t play a role in BGII he should have access to bard rituals.
3. While the warden seems to be a good blend of fighter and druid I don’t like the shapeshifting aspect. On the other hand the fighter/druid hybrid too has it problems because you get only the wild shape for free... I have to think about it.:D
4. Mazzy could be good as a hybrid character, maybe a fighter/ranger? Fighter for powers for the sword of Arvoreen and ranger for powers for the bow.
5. Yoshimo as an avenger would certainly solve the problem with his katana. But he wasn’t religious and had no divine powers. Maybe a fighter or ranger (if we go katana/wakizashi-style) with a rogue multiclass feat?
Now I got that suggestion two times, and I would like to know why. I had him only a very short time in the party, was there something about him being a descendant of lycanthropes? Or is it just because he had the shifter kit?
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well back when that kit existed the species did not, so its a bit of both the lycanthrope blood he injected himself with and the shifter kit.
and there is no PP that allows a character to turninto a werewolf, and the shifter race comes closest to the spirit of the character
I'm for the feel too, but I have nothing against hybrid multiclassing if it helps to realise the concept of the character.
I like most of your suggestions, however I don’t understand some.
1. Aerie an invoker? She always struck me more as the healing caring type who could blast too with wizard powers.
2. Haer’Dalis. While warlord has the same role as bard with other key attributes, I don’t think it would reflect him well. And I think even though they didn’t play a role in BGII he should have access to bard rituals.
3. While the warden seems to be a good blend of fighter and druid I don’t like the shapeshifting aspect. On the other hand the fighter/druid hybrid too has it problems because you get only the wild shape for free... I have to think about it.:D
4. Mazzy could be good as a hybrid character, maybe a fighter/ranger? Fighter for powers for the sword of Arvoreen and ranger for powers for the bow.
5. Yoshimo as an avenger would certainly solve the problem with his katana. But he wasn’t religious and had no divine powers. Maybe a fighter or ranger (if we go katana/wakizashi-style) with a rogue multiclass feat?
1. Aerie as Invoker. Take a look at the Preserving Invoker. There's a lot of powers that give defensive bonuses to other party members as a bonus, there are area attacks, there are utilities that affect healing surges - all round, I think it gives the right feel from 1st level for what Aerie does. Multiclass with Cleric if you want a little more healing, or with wizard for a different selection of spells, but honestly neither feels quite necessary with the class in question.
2. Haer'Dalis as bravura Warlord. I honestly think that's what Haer'Dalis would have be if BG2 came out now. A melee combatant perfectly happy to take chances to give other people opportunities, with high Charisma. He can work in other ways inlcuding Bard, but that's how I'd make him.
3. Jaheira as Warden. The class works as a warrior version of the druid, which is how I usually Jaheira when she's in my party. Half-elf dilettante lets her pick up a druid power, and she can pick up more by multiclassing if necessary, though the Warden has a number of close blasts and bursts that are similar to druid powers.
4. Mazzy as Ranger. It's not entirely satisfactory, mainly because it doesn't give the religious feel I think Mazzy should have. The problem is there isn't really another class that helps with ranged weapons. This is one case where I'd consider breaking my self imposed rule against hybrid classes, making her into a Ranger/Warlord. If I felt I could get away with switching her to javelins/thrown weapons I'd go pure warlord. Useful in melee and at range, some healing, a party leader - it screams out for Mazzy to be a Warlord, but I really want her to be a good archer too. More thought required.
5. Yoshimo as an Avenger. The divine features are the thing which make this a bad fit. On the other hand, I'm not happy with Rogue either, for the reasons you identify to do with his use of the Katana. Playing around last night with the character builder I made unsatisfactory versions of him as Rogue, Fighter, Avenger, and Monk. I'm wondering if the DDI Assassin will be a closer match, or if a Psionic class will do. I really don't quite know what to do with him, any more than I do with Mazzy.
1. Aerie as Invoker. Take a look at the Preserving Invoker. There's a lot of powers that give defensive bonuses to other party members as a bonus, there are area attacks, there are utilities that affect healing surges - all round, I think it gives the right feel from 1st level for what Aerie does. Multiclass with Cleric if you want a little more healing, or with wizard for a different selection of spells, but honestly neither feels quite necessary with the class in question.
I will certainly look into it, maybe I'm just too stuck in my view of old multiclass characters.:D
2. Haer'Dalis as bravura Warlord. I honestly think that's what Haer'Dalis would have be if BG2 came out now. A melee combatant perfectly happy to take chances to give other people opportunities, with high Charisma. He can work in other ways inlcuding Bard, but that's how I'd make him.
Well, I've looked at his old stats and kit again, and I think I'll go with tempest fighter with the Bardic Ritualist-Feat and the Doomguard Marauder paragon path, plus a few skill trainings in charisma skills.
3. Jaheira as Warden. The class works as a warrior version of the druid, which is how I usually Jaheira when she's in my party. Half-elf dilettante lets her pick up a druid power, and she can pick up more by multiclassing if necessary, though the Warden has a number of close blasts and bursts that are similar to druid powers.
Hmmmm, I think I'm going to wait for Divine Power before I decide that... If there's a good nature domain she could maybe be a cleric/warpriest of Sylvanus.
4. Mazzy as Ranger. It's not entirely satisfactory, mainly because it doesn't give the religious feel I think Mazzy should have. The problem is there isn't really another class that helps with ranged weapons. This is one case where I'd consider breaking my self imposed rule against hybrid classes, making her into a Ranger/Warlord. If I felt I could get away with switching her to javelins/thrown weapons I'd go pure warlord. Useful in melee and at range, some healing, a party leader - it screams out for Mazzy to be a Warlord, but I really want her to be a good archer too. More thought required.
Okay, you've convinced me about the warlord part, and I think that hybrid is the best way to go.
I don't think we'll get any new Warlord stuff anytime soon.5. Yoshimo as an Avenger. The divine features are the thing which make this a bad fit. On the other hand, I'm not happy with Rogue either, for the reasons you identify to do with his use of the Katana. Playing around last night with the character builder I made unsatisfactory versions of him as Rogue, Fighter, Avenger, and Monk. I'm wondering if the DDI Assassin will be a closer match, or if a Psionic class will do. I really don't quite know what to do with him, any more than I do with Mazzy.
Yep, Yoshi seems almost impossible to make. The problem with him is that the weapons list of the rogue isn't only short, it's directly tied to his powers. A rogue can be proficient with any type of weapon, but he can't even use it with his at-wills. And unfortunately there's only an exception for eladrin. But he was definitely a martial character, his abilities had nothing magical about them.... We can only hope that a new class will cover him, otherwise we're either stuck with a fighter who paragon multiclasses into rogue, or a rogue that uses a rapier instead of a katana.
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Aerie, level 10
Eladrin, Invoker
Build: Preserving Invoker
Divine Covenant: Covenant of Preservation
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 8, Con 12, Dex 12, Int 16, Wis 20, Cha 11.
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 8, Con 11, Dex 10, Int 14, Wis 18, Cha 10.
AC: 20 Fort: 19 Reflex: 21 Will: 24
HP: 58 Surges: 7 Surge Value: 15
TRAINED SKILLS
Heal +17, Religion +13, Nature +15, Arcana +15, Insight +15
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +8, Bluff +5, Diplomacy +5, Dungeoneering +10, Endurance +6, History +10, Intimidate +5, Perception +12, Stealth +6, Streetwise +5, Thievery +6, Athletics +4
FEATS
Invoker: Ritual Caster
Level 1: Insightful Preservation
Level 2: Combat Medic
Level 4: Alertness
Level 6: Implement Expertise (rod)
Level 8: Initiate of the Faith
Level 10: Resonating Covenant
POWERS
Invoker at-will 1: Avenging Light
Invoker at-will 1: Grasping Shards
Invoker daily 1: Purging Flame
Invoker daily 5: Blade of Vengeance
Invoker daily 9: Fourfold Invocation of Doom
Invoker encounter 1: Blades of Astral Fire
Invoker encounter 3: Offering of Justice
Invoker encounter 7: Thunderbolt of the Heavens
Invoker utility 10: Divine Renewal
Invoker utility 2: Wall of Light
Invoker utility 6: Shared Endurance
ITEMS
Ritual Book, Adventurer's Kit, Potion of Healing (heroic tier) (3), Shimmering Cloth Armor (Basic Clothing) +2, Magic Mace +1, Magic Rod +3, Cape of the Mountebank +2, Surefoot Boots (heroic tier), Belt of Vigor (heroic tier), Restful Bedroll (heroic tier), Bracers of Respite (heroic tier)
RITUALS
Hand of Fate, Brew Potion, Unseen Servant, Traveler's Chant
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She can plenty of healing, from Combat Medic and the utilities that affect healing surges; most of her daily and encounter powers provide bonuses to other characters or forced movement as well as damage; and a few useful rituals. I should probably add more rituals, and perhaps drop the Initiate of the Faith feat, which doesn't give any significant advantages. It could be replaced with something from the Wizard line, perhaps. It's not an exact match, but there's a combination of healing, helping allies, anti-undead capability, and enough damage to satisfy me.
She can plenty of healing, from Combat Medic and the utilities that affect healing surges; most of her daily and encounter powers provide bonuses to other characters or forced movement as well as damage; and a few useful rituals. I should probably add more rituals, and perhaps drop the Initiate of the Faith feat, which doesn't give any significant advantages. It could be replaced with something from the Wizard line, perhaps. It's not an exact match, but there's a combination of healing, helping allies, anti-undead capability, and enough damage to satisfy me.
I really like her except for a few minor things (I'd use the original ability scores from BG II and still make her an elf), there's only one thing I don't understand. Where do you get healing as a trained skill? It's not on the class list of the invoker, and Initiate of the Faith only gives you religion a second time.
I really like her except for a few minor things (I'd use the original ability scores from BG II and still make her an elf), there's only one thing I don't understand. Where do you get healing as a trained skill? It's not on the class list of the invoker, and Initiate of the Faith only gives you religion a second time.
Heal came from Eladrin Education, I think. I made her with the Character Builder without checking the books, so I hadn't noticed that Heal wasn't on the Invoker's class list. Going through the Compendium it puzzled me, until I checked Eladrin and saw they have a free skill.
I could have a go at an Elf version. It wouldn't be quite the same, since I'd have to pick up Heal through Skill Training, but the racial bonus to Wisdom would make a more powerful character. As for why I didn't use the original scores, my BG2 installation is running a mod at the moment and the original characters aren't there. And I was too lazy to check the web for them.
Of course it's the eladrin skill.
I'm trying right now to make an elf version and just stumbled over the skill issue.
I also have a level 11 try on Imoen, I just have to buy equipment and find out how to get is as text.
The stats can all be found here: http://www.gamebanshee.com/baldursgateii/npcs.php
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Sarevok, level 19
Human, Fighter, Dread Reaper
Fighter Talents: Two-handed Weapon Talent
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 25, Con 19, Dex 22, Int 18, Wis 11, Cha 16.
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 18, Con 18, Dex 17, Int 17, Wis 10, Cha 15.
AC: 35 Fort: 30 Reflex: 27 Will: 24
HP: 142 Surges: 13 Surge Value: 35
TRAINED SKILLS
Diplomacy +17, Streetwise +19, Endurance +16, Intimidate +21, Athletics +19
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +13, Arcana +13, Bluff +12, Dungeoneering +9, Heal +9, History +13, Insight +9, Nature +9, Perception +11, Religion +13, Stealth +13, Thievery +13
FEATS
Human: Student of Battle
Level 1: Power Attack
Level 2: Reaping Blade
Level 4: Alertness
Level 6: Bloodthirsty Mien
Level 8: Connected
Level 10: Victor's Confidence
Level 11: Armor Proficiency (Plate)
Level 12: Armor Specialization (Plate)
Level 14: Paragon Defenses
Level 16: Mettle
Level 18: Heavy Blade Opportunity
POWERS
Fighter at-will 1: Knockdown Assault
Fighter at-will 1: Reaping Strike
Bonus At-Will Power: Cleave
Fighter daily 1: Harrier's Ploy
Fighter daily 15: Dragon's Fangs (replaces Nimble Bladestorm)
Fighter daily 19: Reaving Strike (replaces Harrier's Ploy)
Fighter daily 5: Nimble Bladestorm
Fighter daily 9: Victorious Surge
Fighter encounter 1: Steel Serpent Strike
Fighter encounter 13: Assured Strike (replaces Steel Serpent Strike)
Fighter encounter 17: Exorcism of Steel (replaces Dance of Steel)
Fighter encounter 3: Dance of Steel
Fighter encounter 7: Sudden Surge
Fighter utility 10: Strength From Pain
Fighter utility 16: Giant's Stride
Fighter utility 2: No Opening
Fighter utility 6: Battle Awareness
ITEMS
Vicious Greatsword +5, Screaming Warplate Armor +4
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Imoen, level 11
Human, Rogue, Paragon Multiclassing
Rogue Tactics: Artful Dodger
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 10, Con 17, Dex 21, Int 21, Wis 13, Cha 17.
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 9, Con 16, Dex 18, Int 17, Wis 11, Cha 16.
AC: 25 Fort: 21 Reflex: 25 Will: 21
HP: 79 Surges: 9 Surge Value: 19
TRAINED SKILLS
Arcana +15, Acrobatics +15, Stealth +15, Thievery +15, Bluff +13, Streetwise +15, Perception +11, Insight +11
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Diplomacy +8, Dungeoneering +6, Endurance +8, Heal +6, History +10, Intimidate +8, Nature +6, Religion +10, Athletics +5
FEATS
Learned Spellcaster: Ritual Caster
Human: Arcane Initiate
Level 1: Improved Initiative
Level 2: Phantom Echoes
Level 4: Novice Power
Level 6: Backstabber
Level 8: Acolyte Power
Level 10: Adept Power
Level 11: Learned Spellcaster
POWERS
Rogue at-will 1: Disheartening Strike (retrained to Magic Missile at Paragon Multiclassing)
Rogue at-will 1: Piercing Strike
Arcane Initiate: Chilling Cloud
Bonus At-Will Power: Sly Flourish
Paragon Multiclassing: Enemies Abound
Rogue daily 1: Precise Incision
Rogue daily 5: Surefooted Retort
Rogue daily 9: Swift Strike (retrained to Visions of Ruin at Adept Power)
Rogue encounter 1: Positioning Strike
Rogue encounter 3: Flamboyant Strike (retrained to Chill Strike at Novice Power)
Rogue encounter 7: From the Shadows
Rogue utility 10: Shadow Stride
Rogue utility 2: Fleeting Ghost
Rogue utility 6: Hidden Blade (retrained to Invisibility at Acolyte Power)
ITEMS
Magic Leather Armor +3, Wraithblade Short sword +2, Magic Orb +3, Cloak of Distortion +2
RITUALS
Amanuensis, Magic Mouth, Tenser's Floating Disk, Seek Rumor, Eye of Alarm, Tiny Lanterns, Detect Treasure
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Viconia, level 10
Drow, Cleric
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 10, Con 9, Dex 20, Int 16, Wis 20, Cha 18.
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 10, Con 9, Dex 18, Int 16, Wis 18, Cha 14.
AC: 24 Fort: 17 Reflex: 22 Will: 24
HP: 66 Surges: 6 Surge Value: 16
TRAINED SKILLS
Religion +13, Diplomacy +16, Insight +15, Heal +15
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +12, Arcana +10, Bluff +11, Dungeoneering +12, Endurance +6, History +10, Intimidate +13, Nature +12, Perception +12, Stealth +14, Streetwise +11, Thievery +12, Athletics +7
FEATS
Cleric: Ritual Caster
Level 1: Greater Turning
Level 2: Radiant Soul
Level 4: Melee Training (Wisdom)
Level 6: Restful Healing
Level 8: Jack of All Trades
Level 10: Improved Initiative
POWERS
Cleric at-will 1: Gaze of Defiance
Cleric at-will 1: Sacred Flame
Cleric daily 1: Cascade of Light
Cleric daily 5: Consecrated Ground
Cleric daily 9: Flame Strike
Cleric encounter 1: Cause Fear
Cleric encounter 3: Command
Cleric encounter 7: Break the Spirit
Cleric utility 10: Mass Cure Light Wounds
Cleric utility 2: Cure Light Wounds
Cleric utility 6: Cure Serious Wounds
ITEMS
Ritual Book, Magic Leather Armor +2, Magic Mace +2, Healer's Brooch +2
RITUALS
Gentle Repose, Brew Potion, Hand of Fate, Discern Lies, Raise Dead, Remove Affliction
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Minsc, level 10
Human, Barbarian
Build: Rageblood Barbarian
Feral Might: Rageblood Vigor
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 22, Con 18, Dex 16, Int 8, Wis 6, Cha 9.
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 18, Con 16, Dex 16, Int 8, Wis 6, Cha 9.
AC: 24 Fort: 26 Reflex: 22 Will: 16
HP: 92 Surges: 12 Surge Value: 23
TRAINED SKILLS
Endurance +15, Perception +8, Athletics +15, Nature +8, Stealth +12
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +7, Arcana +4, Bluff +4, Diplomacy +4, Dungeoneering +3, Heal +3, History +4, Insight +3, Intimidate +4, Religion +4, Streetwise +4, Thievery +7
FEATS
Human: Deadly Rage
Level 1: Warrior of the Wild
Level 2: Improved Rageblood Vigor
Level 4: Power Attack
Level 6: Powerful Charge
Level 8: Toughness
Level 10: Improved Initiative
POWERS
Barbarian at-will 1: Recuperating Strike
Barbarian at-will 1: Howling Strike
Barbarian daily 1: Macetail's Rage
Barbarian daily 5: Frost Wolf Rage
Barbarian daily 9: Stone Bear Rage
Barbarian encounter 1: Great Cleave
Barbarian encounter 3: Blade Sweep
Barbarian encounter 7: Great Shout
Barbarian utility 10: Mountain Roots
Barbarian utility 2: Stonebreaker
Barbarian utility 6: Instinctive Charge
Bonus At-Will Power: Devastating Strike
ITEMS
Barkskin Hide Armor +2, Boo, Magic Greatsword +3, Cloak of Survival +2
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Aerie, level 10
Elf, Invoker
Divine Covenant: Covenant of Preservation
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 10, Con 10, Dex 18, Int 18, Wis 20, Cha 14.
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 10, Con 10, Dex 16, Int 16, Wis 16, Cha 14.
AC: 21 Fort: 18 Reflex: 22 Will: 23
HP: 56 Surges: 6 Surge Value: 15
TRAINED SKILLS
Religion +14, Nature +18, Insight +15, Arcana +15, Heal +17
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +11, Bluff +7, Diplomacy +7, Dungeoneering +10, Endurance +5, History +9, Intimidate +7, Perception +14, Stealth +9, Streetwise +7, Thievery +9, Athletics +5
FEATS
Invoker: Ritual Caster
Level 1: Insightful Preservation
Level 2: Skill Training (Heal)
Level 4: Combat Medic
Level 6: Alertness
Level 8: Implement Expertise (staff)
Level 10: Invoker Defense
POWERS
Invoker at-will 1: Avenging Light
Invoker at-will 1: Grasping Shards
Invoker daily 1: Purging Flame
Invoker daily 5: Blade of Vengeance
Invoker daily 9: Visions of Paradise
Invoker encounter 1: Blades of Astral Fire
Invoker encounter 3: Offering of Justice
Invoker encounter 7: Thunderbolt of the Heavens
Invoker utility 10: Divine Renewal
Invoker utility 2: Wall of Light
Invoker utility 6: Shared Endurance
ITEMS
Ritual Book, Adventurer's Kit, Potion of Healing (heroic tier) (3) Shimmering Cloth Armor (Basic Clothing) +2, Utility Staff +2, Cape of the Mountebank +2, Restful Bedroll (heroic tier), Bracers of Respite (heroic tier), Surefoot Boots (heroic tier), Belt of Vigor (heroic tier)
RITUALS
Hand of Fate, Comprehend Language, Explorer's Fire, Gentle Repose, Make Whole, Silence
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Today I tried to make Anomen as a Cleric/Warpriest. Unfortunately I ran into a few problems:
1. Most "blunt" weapons of AD&D aren't simple in 4E, he couldn't use the cool weapons that were perfect for him in BG2 without weapon proficiencies and retraining.
2. Clerics can't use shields (two proficiencies to learn to use heavy shields).
3. I couldn't find the shields in the Character Builder.
I guess I'll try again when the Hybrid rules in the CB are upgraded, with his low Wisdom Fighter/Cleric should be better for him.
However, I have Minsc as a glorious spirit for 4E who can teach his wisdom to the next generation of heroes.:D
"Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, watch it! I'm huge!"
"Magic is impressive, but now Minsc leads! Swords for everyone!"
"Minsc will lead with blade and boot! Boo will take care of the details."
"Jump on my sword while you can evil, I WON'T be as gentle!"
"Live by the sword, live a good looong time."
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Minsc, level 30
Human, Barbarian, Frenzied Berserker, Glorious Spirit
Build: Rageblood Barbarian
Feral Might: Rageblood Vigor
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 28, Con 24, Dex 18, Int 10, Wis 8, Cha 11.
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 18, Con 16, Dex 16, Int 8, Wis 6, Cha 9.
AC: 43 Fort: 46 Reflex: 38 Will: 34
HP: 228 Surges: 17 Surge Value: 57
TRAINED SKILLS
Endurance +26, Perception +19, Athletics +34, Nature +19, Stealth +29
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +18, Arcana +15, Bluff +15, Diplomacy +15, Dungeoneering +14, Heal +14, History +15, Insight +14, Intimidate +15, Religion +15, Streetwise +15, Thievery +18
FEATS
Human: Deadly Rage
Level 1: Warrior of the Wild
Level 2: Improved Rageblood Vigor
Level 4: Power Attack
Level 6: Powerful Charge
Level 8: Toughness
Level 10: Improved Initiative
Level 11: Rageblood Recovery
Level 12: Heavy Blade Opportunity
Level 14: Danger Sense
Level 16: Devastating Critical
Level 18: Weapon Expertise (Heavy Blade)
Level 20: Durable
Level 21: Heavy Blade Mastery
Level 22: Epic Fortitude
Level 24: Epic Recovery
Level 26: Weapon Focus (Heavy Blade)
Level 28: Primal Resurgence
Level 30: Enduring Rage
POWERS
Barbarian at-will 1: Recuperating Strike
Barbarian at-will 1: Howling Strike
Barbarian daily 1: Macetail's Rage
Barbarian daily 19: Winter Phoenix Rage (replaces Stone Bear Rage)
Barbarian daily 25: Stone Tempest Rage (replaces Macetail's Rage)
Barbarian daily 29: Rage of the Primal Beast (replaces Frost Wolf Rage)
Barbarian daily 5: Frost Wolf Rage
Barbarian daily 9: Stone Bear Rage
Barbarian encounter 1: Great Cleave
Barbarian encounter 13: Blade Whirlwind (replaces Great Shout)
Barbarian encounter 17: Vigorous Strike (replaces Blade Whirlwind)
Barbarian encounter 23: Fatal Strike (replaces Great Cleave)
Barbarian encounter 27: Blood Wrath (replaces Blade Sweep)
Barbarian encounter 3: Blade Sweep
Barbarian encounter 7: Great Shout
Barbarian utility 10: Mountain Roots
Barbarian utility 16: Primal Resistance
Barbarian utility 2: Stonebreaker
Barbarian utility 22: Untouched
Barbarian utility 6: Instinctive Charge
Bonus At-Will Power: Devastating Strike
ITEMS
Boo, Vorpal Greatsword +6, Sylvan Elderhide Armor +6, Circlet of Indomitability (epic tier), Life Charm +5, Bracers of Mighty Striking (paragon tier), Giantkind Gloves (paragon tier), Stalwart Belt (epic tier), Defiant Boots (paragon tier)
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With Anomen I wasn't so bothered by the weapon choice, a mace is a perfectly solid option, as by the limited armour proficiency and shield use. If you want him in full plate and using the Delryn Family Shield he has to spend four feats to get it. I'd be a lot happier if you could get any proficiency you qualified for without taking the previous one, so there's only two feats needed.
Here's three of my efforts.
My latest attempt at Yoshimo doesn’t seem too bad to me. Competent with bow and blade, stealthy, skilled at thievery, bonus damage against targets he’s hunting.
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Yoshimo, level 10
Human, Ranger
Build: Archer Ranger
Fighting Style: Archer Fighting Style
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 17, Con 14, Dex 18, Int 13, Wis 10, Cha 10.
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 15, Con 14, Dex 14, Int 13, Wis 10, Cha 10.
AC: 24 Fort: 22 Reflex: 23 Will: 18
HP: 71 Surges: 8 Surge Value: 17
TRAINED SKILLS
Thievery +13, Heal +10, Dungeoneering +10, Endurance +11, Stealth +15, Perception +12, Athletics +12, Streetwise +10
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +8, Arcana +6, Bluff +5, Diplomacy +5, History +6, Insight +5, Intimidate +5, Nature +5, Religion +6
FEATS
Human: Sneak of Shadows
Level 1: Action Surge
Level 2: Skill Training (Streetwise)
Level 4: Improved Initiative
Level 6: Alertness
Level 8: Blade Opportunist
Level 10: Lethal Hunter
POWERS
Ranger at-will 1: Twin Strike
Ranger at-will 1: Hit and Run
Bonus At-Will Power: Hunter's Teamwork
Ranger daily 1: Hunter's Bear Trap
Ranger daily 5: Splintering Shot
Ranger daily 9: Ranger's Recovery
Ranger encounter 1: Fox's Cunning
Ranger encounter 3: Disruptive Strike
Ranger encounter 7: Hawk's Talon
Ranger utility 10: Shed the Mark
Ranger utility 2: Unbalancing Parry
Ranger utility 6: Battle Runner
ITEMS
Adventurer's Kit, Longbow, Scimitar, Arrows (30), Distance Longbow +3, Deathcut Hide Armor +2, Cloak of the Walking Wounded +2, Lightning Scimitar +1, Bracers of Mighty Striking (heroic tier), Boots of Spider Climbing (heroic tier), Potion of Healing (heroic tier) (5), Climbing Claws (heroic tier)
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I don’t know about anyone else, but I feel like an idiot for not seeing the possibilities with RangerYoshimo.
And an attempt at Jaheira as a Warden, which isn’t entirely satisfactory. It’s not a class that works if she’s the main healer in the group, although there are plenty of ways she can heal herself. Druid doesn’t quite fit in that respect, though. And Warden has quite a few nature-styled close range area attacks that would work for insect summons and lightning.
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Jaheira, level 10
Half-Elf, Warden
Build: Earth Warden
Guardian Might: Earthstrength
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 17, Con 19, Dex 15, Int 10, Wis 14, Cha 15.
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 15, Con 15, Dex 15, Int 10, Wis 14, Cha 13.
AC: 26 Fort: 22 Reflex: 21 Will: 20
HP: 104 Surges: 13 Surge Value: 26
TRAINED SKILLS
Nature +12, Dungeoneering +12, Endurance +13, Perception +13, Heal +12
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +4, Arcana +5, Bluff +7, Diplomacy +9, History +5, Insight +9, Intimidate +7, Religion +5, Stealth +4, Streetwise +7, Thievery +4, Athletics +5
FEATS
Level 1: Toughness
Level 2: Crushing Earthstrength
Level 4: Improved Initiative
Level 6: Blade Opportunist
Level 8: Sudden Roots
Level 10: Skill Training (Heal)
POWERS
Warden at-will 1: Strength of Stone
Warden at-will 1: Weight of Earth
Dilettante: Thorn Whip
Warden daily 1: Form of Winter's Herald
Warden daily 5: Hail of Thorns
Warden daily 9: Form of the Stone Sentinel
Warden encounter 1: Thunder Ram Assault
Warden encounter 3: Earthgrasp Strike
Warden encounter 7: Mountain Hammer
Warden utility 10: Warding Vines
Warden utility 2: Nature's Abundance
Warden utility 6: Bear's Endurance
ITEMS
Hide Armor, Adventurer's Kit, Heavy Shield, Scimitar, Sling, Sling Bullets (20), Shared Suffering Hide Armor +2, Cloak of Survival +2, Dynamic Scimitar +3, Potion of Healing (heroic tier) (5), Viper Belt (heroic tier), Headband of Perception (heroic tier), Bracers of Respite (heroic tier), Wildrunners (heroic tier), Gloves of Piercing (heroic tier), Flesh Seeker Dagger +1
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Here's my version of Mazzy Fentan, as a Ranger/Warlord.
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Mazzy Fentan, level 10
Halfling, Ranger|Warlord
Hybrid Ranger: Hybrid Ranger Fortitude
Hybrid Warlord: Hybrid Warlord Will
Hybrid Talent: Commanding Presence
Commanding Presence: Inspiring Presence
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 15, Con 13, Dex 19, Int 10, Wis 13, Cha 15.
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 14, Con 12, Dex 15, Int 10, Wis 13, Cha 13.
AC: 24 Fort: 20 Reflex: 21 Will: 20
HP: 61 Surges: 7 Surge Value: 15
TRAINED SKILLS
Endurance +10, Dungeoneering +11, Diplomacy +12, Religion +10
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +10, Arcana +5, Bluff +7, Heal +6, History +5, Insight +6, Intimidate +7, Nature +6, Perception +6, Stealth +8, Streetwise +8, Thievery +11, Athletics +6
FEATS
Level 1: Hybrid Talent
Level 2: Lucky Skirmisher
Level 4: Hunter's Aim
Level 6: Weapon Focus (Bow)
Level 8: Weapon Expertise (Bow)
Level 10: Skill Training (Religion)
POWERS
Hybrid Ranger at-will 1: Twin Strike
Hybrid Warlord at-will 1: Viper's Strike
Hybrid daily 1: Split the Tree
Hybrid daily 5: Stand the Fallen
Hybrid daily 9: Warlord's Recovery
Hybrid encounter 1: Hammer and Anvil
Hybrid encounter 3: Scattering Volley
Hybrid encounter 7: Sacrificial Lure
Hybrid utility 10: Defensive Rally
Hybrid utility 2: Heroic Effort
Hybrid utility 6: Skilled Companion
ITEMS
Hide Armor, Adventurer's Kit, Short sword, Shortbow, Light Shield, Cloak of the Cautious +2, Quickhit Braces (heroic tier), Enduring Beast Hide Armor +2, Defensive Short sword +2, Distance Shortbow +3, Magic Short sword +1
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Jaheira in pure Druid form:
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Jaheira, level 10
Half-Elf, Druid
Build: Guardian Druid
Primal Aspect: Primal Guardian
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 14, Con 18, Dex 15, Int 10, Wis 16, Cha 15.
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 14, Con 14, Dex 15, Int 10, Wis 14, Cha 13.
AC: 24 Fort: 21 Reflex: 20 Will: 21
HP: 80 Surges: 11 Surge Value: 20
TRAINED SKILLS
Nature +13, Heal +15, Insight +15, Perception +13
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +6, Arcana +5, Bluff +7, Diplomacy +9, Dungeoneering +8, Endurance +8, History +5, Intimidate +7, Religion +5, Stealth +6, Streetwise +9, Thievery +6, Athletics +6
FEATS
Druid: Ritual Caster
Level 1: Toughness
Level 2: Improved Initiative
Level 4: Primal Instinct
Level 6: Combat Medic
Level 8: Group Insight
Level 10: Blade Opportunist
POWERS
Druid at-will 1: Savage Rend
Druid at-will 1: Pounce
Druid at-will 1: Thorn Whip
Dilettante: Cleave
Druid daily 1: Summon Pack Wolf
Druid daily 5: Wall of Thorns
Druid daily 9: Entangle
Druid encounter 1: Frost Flash
Druid encounter 3: Call Lightning
Druid encounter 7: Tremor
Druid utility 10: Winter Storm
Druid utility 2: Barkskin
Druid utility 6: Stalker's Eyes
ITEMS
Ritual Book, Adventurer's Kit, Sling, Club, Dagger, Sling Bullets (20), Magic Totem +3, Deathcut Hide Armor +2, Medallion of Death Deferred +2, Totem, Magic Club +1
RITUALS
Animal Messenger, Raise Beast Companion, Banish Vermin, Explorer's Fire, Gentle Repose, Bloom, Lower Water, Beast Growth, Snare, Call Wilderness Guide, Ironwood, Remove Affliction, Raise Dead
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And a Jaheira with some Cleric multiclassing:
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Jaheira, level 10
Half-Elf, Druid
Build: Guardian Druid
Primal Aspect: Primal Guardian
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 15, Con 17, Dex 16, Int 10, Wis 17, Cha 15.
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 15, Con 14, Dex 15, Int 10, Wis 15, Cha 13.
AC: 23 Fort: 20 Reflex: 21 Will: 21
HP: 79 Surges: 10 Surge Value: 19
TRAINED SKILLS
Nature +13, Perception +13, Diplomacy +14, Heal +15, Religion +10
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +7, Arcana +5, Bluff +7, Dungeoneering +8, Endurance +9, History +5, Insight +10, Intimidate +7, Stealth +7, Streetwise +9, Thievery +7, Athletics +6
FEATS
Druid: Ritual Caster
Level 1: Initiate of the Faith
Level 2: Weapon Proficiency (Scimitar)
Level 4: Combat Medic
Level 6: Toughness
Level 8: Acolyte Power
Level 10: Implement Expertise (totem)
POWERS
Druid at-will 1: Grasping Claws
Druid at-will 1: Grasping Tide
Druid at-will 1: Chill Wind
Dilettante: Earth Shield Strike
Druid daily 1: Summon Pack Wolf
Druid daily 5: Hobbling Rend
Druid daily 9: Entangle
Druid encounter 1: Twisting Vines
Druid encounter 3: Call Lightning
Druid encounter 7: Swirling Winds
Druid utility 10: Armor of the Wild
Druid utility 2: Barkskin
Druid utility 6: Camouflage Cloak (retrained to Cure Serious Wounds at Acolyte Power)
ITEMS
Ritual Book, Adventurer's Kit, Totem, Club, Magic Totem +3, Lifeblood Hide Armor +2, Cloak of Survival +2, Defensive Scimitar +1, Sling, Sling Bullets (20), Potion of Healing (heroic tier) (3), Bracers of Mighty Striking (heroic tier)
RITUALS
Animal Messenger, Banish Vermin, Bloom, Lower Water, Water Walk, Delay Affliction, Travelers' Feast, Clear the Path, Ironwood, Speak with Dead, Raise Dead, Remove Affliction
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One thing that became very apparent is that 4e druids aren't going to do much healing except through rituals and the Heal skill. I've though about trying a Shaman version, but in my opinion that's not really Jaheira's style. It could work for Cernd, but that's a different post. I'm also not convinced that a Fighter/Druid hybrid is desirable for the same reason.
Cernd could work as a longtooth shifter warden.....
Minsc is Magnificent!
With Anomen I wasn't so bothered by the weapon choice, a mace is a perfectly solid option, as by the limited armour proficiency and shield use. If you want him in full plate and using the Delryn Family Shield he has to spend four feats to get it. I'd be a lot happier if you could get any proficiency you qualified for without taking the previous one, so there's only two feats needed.
Thanks. My problem with Anomen is, that if I took him along he ended up carrying Flail of the Ages and Crom Faeyr and a shield. I think I will realise him as a fighter/cleric hybrid. If there were weapon group proficiencies and armor proficiencies like in Star Wars Saga Edition there wouldn't be a problem.
I really like the other builds. I thought about Yoshimo as a ranger, but never with archery. I only thought of katana in one hand and ninja-to in the other and that would've been too samurai-like. But archery is a great idea!
I made a warden-version of Jaheira once, but I wasn't happy with it (aside from the healing issue I don't like that druid powers you get through being half-elf need an implement). I think she could be a cleric with the nature domain (if there is one in Divine Power), or maybe an avenger/druid hybrid with a quarterstaff...
Cernd as Warden:
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Cernd, level 10
Longtooth Shifter, Warden
Build: Wild Warden
Guardian Might: Wildblood
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 14, Con 14, Dex 9, Int 13, Wis 19, Cha 15.
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 11, Con 13, Dex 9, Int 13, Wis 15, Cha 15.
AC: 25 Fort: 20 Reflex: 18 Will: 22
HP: 99 Surges: 11 Surge Value: 25
TRAINED SKILLS
Nature +16, Heal +14, Athletics +13, Endurance +13
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +3, Arcana +6, Bluff +7, Diplomacy +7, Dungeoneering +9, History +6, Insight +9, Intimidate +7, Perception +9, Religion +6, Stealth +3, Streetwise +7, Thievery +3
FEATS
Level 1: Toughness
Level 2: Wild Senses
Level 4: Ritual Caster
Level 6: Staff Fighting
Level 8: Melee Training (Wisdom)
Level 10: Sudden Roots
POWERS
Warden at-will 1: Thorn Strike
Warden at-will 1: Earth Shield Strike
Warden daily 1: Form of the Relentless Panther
Warden daily 5: Winter's Grip
Warden daily 9: Form of the Frenzied Wolverine
Warden encounter 1: Wildblood Frenzy
Warden encounter 3: Predatory Guardian
Warden encounter 7: Stalker's Positioning
Warden utility 10: Returning Strength
Warden utility 2: Triumphant Vigor
Warden utility 6: Earthguard
ITEMS
Adventurer's Kit, Scimitar, Enduring Beast Hide Armor +2, Collar of Recovery +2, Sacrificial Quarterstaff +3, Piercing Javelin +2, Counterstrike Guards (heroic tier), Belt of Vigor (heroic tier), Quarterstaff
RITUALS
Gentle Repose, Create Campsite, Animal Messenger, Feat of Strength
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Cernd, level 10
Longtooth Shifter, Warden
Build: Wild Warden
Guardian Might: Wildblood
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 14, Con 14, Dex 9, Int 13, Wis 19, Cha 15.
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 11, Con 13, Dex 9, Int 13, Wis 15, Cha 15.
AC: 25 Fort: 20 Reflex: 18 Will: 22
HP: 99 Surges: 11 Surge Value: 25
TRAINED SKILLS
Nature +16, Heal +14, Athletics +13, Endurance +13
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +3, Arcana +6, Bluff +7, Diplomacy +7, Dungeoneering +9, History +6, Insight +9, Intimidate +7, Perception +9, Religion +6, Stealth +3, Streetwise +7, Thievery +3
FEATS
Level 1: Toughness
Level 2: Wild Senses
Level 4: Ritual Caster
Level 6: Staff Fighting
Level 8: Melee Training (Wisdom)
Level 10: Sudden Roots
POWERS
Warden at-will 1: Thorn Strike
Warden at-will 1: Earth Shield Strike
Warden daily 1: Form of the Relentless Panther
Warden daily 5: Winter's Grip
Warden daily 9: Form of the Frenzied Wolverine
Warden encounter 1: Wildblood Frenzy
Warden encounter 3: Predatory Guardian
Warden encounter 7: Stalker's Positioning
Warden utility 10: Returning Strength
Warden utility 2: Triumphant Vigor
Warden utility 6: Earthguard
ITEMS
Adventurer's Kit, Scimitar, Enduring Beast Hide Armor +2, Collar of Recovery +2, Sacrificial Quarterstaff +3, Piercing Javelin +2, Counterstrike Guards (heroic tier), Belt of Vigor (heroic tier), Quarterstaff
RITUALS
Gentle Repose, Create Campsite, Animal Messenger, Feat of Strength
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no healing spells, thats okay, he didnt have any to begin with iirc
bah ne'er liked the shaman anyway,
And now for some one rather more talkative. Haer'Dalis.
As a bard:
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Haer'Dalis, level 10
Tiefling, Bard
Build: Valorous Bard
Bardic Virtue: Virtue of Valor
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 14, Con 12, Dex 14, Int 15, Wis 10, Cha 19.
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 14, Con 10, Dex 14, Int 13, Wis 10, Cha 15.
AC: 24 Fort: 19 Reflex: 21 Will: 22
HP: 69 Surges: 8 Surge Value: 17
TRAINED SKILLS
Arcana +14, Bluff +18, Insight +10, Perception +10, Streetwise +16
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +7, Diplomacy +10, Dungeoneering +8, Endurance +6, Heal +6, History +10, Intimidate +10, Nature +8, Religion +10, Stealth +9, Thievery +7, Athletics +7
FEATS
Bard: Ritual Caster
Level 1: Two-Weapon Fighting
Level 2: Two-Weapon Defense
Level 4: Combat Virtuoso
Level 6: Bardic Knowledge
Level 8: Quick Draw
Level 10: Linguist
POWERS
Bard at-will 1: Misdirected Mark
Bard at-will 1: Guiding Strike
Bard daily 1: Slayer's Song
Bard daily 5: Word of Mystic Warding
Bard daily 9: Hymn of the Daring Rescue
Bard encounter 1: Shout of Triumph
Bard encounter 3: Charger's Call
Bard encounter 7: Scorpion's Claw Strike
Bard utility 10: Chant of Accuracy
Bard utility 2: Song of Defense
Bard utility 6: Chord of Resilience
ITEMS
Ritual Book, Adventurer's Kit, Implement, Wand, Short sword, Chainmail of Sacrifice +2, Medallion of Death Deferred +2, Harsh Songblade Short sword +1, Magic Short sword +3, Helm of Opportunity (heroic tier), Catstep Boots (heroic tier)
RITUALS
Glib Limerick, Create Campsite, Silence, Simbul's Conversion, Delver's Fire, Pyrotechnics, Lullaby, Knock, Fey Passage, Tiny Lanterns, Song of Sustenance
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Haer'Dalis, level 10
Tiefling, Bard
Build: Valorous Bard
Bardic Virtue: Virtue of Valor
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 14, Con 12, Dex 14, Int 15, Wis 10, Cha 19.
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 14, Con 10, Dex 14, Int 13, Wis 10, Cha 15.
AC: 24 Fort: 19 Reflex: 21 Will: 22
HP: 69 Surges: 8 Surge Value: 17
TRAINED SKILLS
Arcana +14, Bluff +18, Insight +10, Perception +10, Streetwise +16
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +7, Diplomacy +10, Dungeoneering +8, Endurance +6, Heal +6, History +10, Intimidate +10, Nature +8, Religion +10, Stealth +9, Thievery +7, Athletics +7
FEATS
Bard: Ritual Caster
Level 1: Two-Weapon Fighting
Level 2: Two-Weapon Defense
Level 4: Combat Virtuoso
Level 6: Bardic Knowledge
Level 8: Quick Draw
Level 10: Linguist
POWERS
Bard at-will 1: Misdirected Mark
Bard at-will 1: Guiding Strike
Bard daily 1: Slayer's Song
Bard daily 5: Word of Mystic Warding
Bard daily 9: Hymn of the Daring Rescue
Bard encounter 1: Shout of Triumph
Bard encounter 3: Charger's Call
Bard encounter 7: Scorpion's Claw Strike
Bard utility 10: Chant of Accuracy
Bard utility 2: Song of Defense
Bard utility 6: Chord of Resilience
ITEMS
Ritual Book, Adventurer's Kit, Implement, Wand, Short sword, Chainmail of Sacrifice +2, Medallion of Death Deferred +2, Harsh Songblade Short sword +1, Magic Short sword +3, Helm of Opportunity (heroic tier), Catstep Boots (heroic tier)
RITUALS
Glib Limerick, Create Campsite, Silence, Simbul's Conversion, Delver's Fire, Pyrotechnics, Lullaby, Knock, Fey Passage, Tiny Lanterns, Song of Sustenance
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Any chance for Viconia?
Any chance for Viconia?
you didnt read all the posts did you, she is up there, above aerie ....
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Haer'Dalis, level 10
Tiefling, Fighter
Build: Tempest Fighter
Fighter Talents: Tempest Technique
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 20, Con 10, Dex 17, Int 16, Wis 14, Cha 18.
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 18, Con 9, Dex 17, Int 14, Wis 14, Cha 15.
AC: 25 Fort: 24 Reflex: 21 Will: 21
HP: 79 Surges: 9 Surge Value: 19
TRAINED SKILLS
Athletics +14, Streetwise +16, Bluff +16, Insight +12, Arcana +15, Diplomacy +14
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +7, Dungeoneering +9, Endurance +4, Heal +7, History +10, Intimidate +9, Nature +9, Perception +7, Religion +10, Stealth +9, Thievery +7
FEATS
Bardic Ritualist: Ritual Caster
Level 1: Bardic Dilettante
Level 2: Bardic Ritualist
Level 4: Infernal Clamor
Level 6: Bardic Knowledge
Level 8: Acolyte Power
Level 10: Skill Training (Diplomacy)
POWERS
Fighter at-will 1: Cleave
Fighter at-will 1: Dual Strike
Fighter daily 1: Tempest Dance
Fighter daily 5: Nimble Bladestorm
Fighter daily 9: Thicket of Blades
Fighter encounter 1: Distracting Spate
Fighter encounter 3: Advance Lunge
Fighter encounter 7: Twofold Torment
Fighter utility 10: Into the Fray (retrained to Illuminating Stars at Acolyte Power)
Fighter utility 2: Defensive Stance
Fighter utility 6: Battle Awareness
ITEMS
Adventurer's Kit, Poisoned Short sword +2, Mordant Short sword +2, Imposter's Finemail +2, Ritual Book, Brooch of No Regrets +2
RITUALS
Arcane Mark, Glib Limerick, Traveler's Chant, Lullaby, Anthem of Unity
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Edwin, Wizard specialising in summoning and to some extent in fire:
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Edwin Odesseiron, level 10
Human, Wizard
Build: Summoner Wizard
Arcane Implement Mastery: Tome of Binding
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 10, Con 18, Dex 11, Int 20, Wis 8, Cha 13.
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 10, Con 16, Dex 11, Int 16, Wis 8, Cha 13.
AC: 22 Fort: 22 Reflex: 23 Will: 21
HP: 66 Surges: 10 Surge Value: 16
TRAINED SKILLS
Diplomacy +11, Arcana +15, Nature +9, Dungeoneering +9, History +15
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +5, Bluff +6, Endurance +9, Heal +4, Insight +4, Intimidate +6, Perception +4, Religion +10, Stealth +5, Streetwise +6, Thievery +5, Athletics +5
FEATS
Wizard: Ritual Caster
Human: Action Surge
Level 1: Careful Summoner
Level 2: Implement Expertise (Tome)
Level 4: Coordinated Explosion
Level 6: Arcane Fire
Level 8: Arcane Reserves
Level 10: Surging Flame
POWERS
Wizard at-will 1: Storm Pillar
Wizard at-will 1: Magic Missile
Bonus At-Will Power: Scorching Burst
Wizard daily 1: Summon Fire Warrior
Wizard daily 1 Spellbook: Flaming Sphere
Wizard daily 5: Summon Abyssal Maw
Wizard daily 5 Spellbook: Fireball
Wizard daily 9: Summon Arrowhawk
Wizard daily 9 Spellbook: Lightning Serpent
Wizard encounter 1: Empowering Lightning
Wizard encounter 3: Icy Rays
Wizard encounter 7: Tomebound Ooze
Wizard utility 10: Blur
Wizard utility 10 Spellbook: True Seeing
Wizard utility 2: Shield
Wizard utility 2 Spellbook: Summon Shadow Serpent
Wizard utility 6: Dispel Magic
Wizard utility 6 Spellbook: Wizard's Escape
ITEMS
Spellbook, Cloth Armor (Basic Clothing), Adventurer's Kit, Implement, Tome, Magic Tome +3, Skybound Cloth Armor (Basic Clothing) +2, Collar of Recovery +2, Reading Spectacles (heroic tier), Floating Lantern (heroic tier), Instant Campsite (heroic tier), Power Jewel (heroic tier)
RITUALS
Amanuensis, Brew Potion, Fastidiousness, Unseen Servant, Magic Circle, Enchant Magic Item, Detect Secret Doors, Undead Ward, Arcane Lock, Endure Elements, Wizard's Curtain, Pyrotechnics, Transfer Enchantment
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Edwin Odesseiron, level 10
Human, Wizard
Build: Summoner Wizard
Arcane Implement Mastery: Tome of Binding
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 10, Con 18, Dex 11, Int 20, Wis 8, Cha 13.
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 10, Con 16, Dex 11, Int 16, Wis 8, Cha 13.
AC: 22 Fort: 22 Reflex: 23 Will: 21
HP: 66 Surges: 10 Surge Value: 16
TRAINED SKILLS
Diplomacy +11, Arcana +15, Nature +9, Dungeoneering +9, History +15
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +5, Bluff +6, Endurance +9, Heal +4, Insight +4, Intimidate +6, Perception +4, Religion +10, Stealth +5, Streetwise +6, Thievery +5, Athletics +5
FEATS
Wizard: Ritual Caster
Human: Action Surge
Level 1: Careful Summoner
Level 2: Implement Expertise (Tome)
Level 4: Coordinated Explosion
Level 6: Arcane Fire
Level 8: Arcane Reserves
Level 10: Surging Flame
POWERS
Wizard at-will 1: Storm Pillar
Wizard at-will 1: Magic Missile
Bonus At-Will Power: Scorching Burst
Wizard daily 1: Summon Fire Warrior
Wizard daily 1 Spellbook: Flaming Sphere
Wizard daily 5: Summon Abyssal Maw
Wizard daily 5 Spellbook: Fireball
Wizard daily 9: Summon Arrowhawk
Wizard daily 9 Spellbook: Lightning Serpent
Wizard encounter 1: Empowering Lightning
Wizard encounter 3: Icy Rays
Wizard encounter 7: Tomebound Ooze
Wizard utility 10: Blur
Wizard utility 10 Spellbook: True Seeing
Wizard utility 2: Shield
Wizard utility 2 Spellbook: Summon Shadow Serpent
Wizard utility 6: Dispel Magic
Wizard utility 6 Spellbook: Wizard's Escape
ITEMS
Spellbook, Cloth Armor (Basic Clothing), Adventurer's Kit, Implement, Tome, Magic Tome +3, Skybound Cloth Armor (Basic Clothing) +2, Collar of Recovery +2, Reading Spectacles (heroic tier), Floating Lantern (heroic tier), Instant Campsite (heroic tier), Power Jewel (heroic tier)
RITUALS
Amanuensis, Brew Potion, Fastidiousness, Unseen Servant, Magic Circle, Enchant Magic Item, Detect Secret Doors, Undead Ward, Arcane Lock, Endure Elements, Wizard's Curtain, Pyrotechnics, Transfer Enchantment
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Keldorn. More about charisma than strength in this case. The annoying thing about his implementation in 4e is that his preferred 2-handed sword and/or long sword are Str/Dex Heavy Blade, and he really doesn't have good dexterity. He'd do a lot better with an axe or a warhammer. And the particular version I'm posting doesn't have Melee Training (Charisma), which would be useful for opportunity attacks.
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Keldorn, level 10
Human, Paladin
Build: Protecting Paladin
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 15, Con 13, Dex 8, Int 12, Wis 14, Cha 20.
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 14, Con 13, Dex 8, Int 12, Wis 13, Cha 16.
AC: 26 Fort: 21 Reflex: 20 Will: 24
HP: 87 Surges: 11 Surge Value: 22
TRAINED SKILLS
Heal +12, Religion +11, Diplomacy +15, Insight +14, Intimidate +15
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +2, Arcana +6, Bluff +10, Dungeoneering +7, Endurance +4, History +6, Nature +7, Perception +7, Stealth +2, Streetwise +10, Thievery +2, Athletics +5
FEATS
Human: Action Surge
Level 1: Toughness
Level 2: Healing Hands
Level 4: Undead Hunter
Level 6: Weapon Expertise (Heavy Blade)
Level 8: Focused Expertise (Greatsword)
Level 10: Power Attack
POWERS
Paladin at-will 1: Bolstering Strike
Paladin at-will 1: Enfeebling Strike
Bonus At-Will Power: Holy Strike
Paladin daily 1: On Pain of Death
Paladin daily 5: Hallowed Circle
Paladin daily 9: Crown of Glory
Paladin encounter 1: Shielding Smite
Paladin encounter 3: Invigorating Smite
Paladin encounter 7: Beckon Foe
Paladin utility 10: Turn the Tide
Paladin utility 2: Astral Speech
Paladin utility 6: Wrath of the Gods
ITEMS
Plate Armor, Adventurer's Kit, Greatsword, Amulet of False Life +2, Righteous Greatsword +2, Magic Plate Armor +3, Bracers of Mighty Striking (heroic tier), Dwarven Greaves (heroic tier), Delver's Light (heroic tier)
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Keldorn, level 10
Human, Paladin
Build: Protecting Paladin
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 15, Con 13, Dex 8, Int 12, Wis 14, Cha 20.
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 14, Con 13, Dex 8, Int 12, Wis 13, Cha 16.
AC: 26 Fort: 21 Reflex: 20 Will: 24
HP: 87 Surges: 11 Surge Value: 22
TRAINED SKILLS
Heal +12, Religion +11, Diplomacy +15, Insight +14, Intimidate +15
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +2, Arcana +6, Bluff +10, Dungeoneering +7, Endurance +4, History +6, Nature +7, Perception +7, Stealth +2, Streetwise +10, Thievery +2, Athletics +5
FEATS
Human: Action Surge
Level 1: Toughness
Level 2: Healing Hands
Level 4: Undead Hunter
Level 6: Weapon Expertise (Heavy Blade)
Level 8: Focused Expertise (Greatsword)
Level 10: Power Attack
POWERS
Paladin at-will 1: Bolstering Strike
Paladin at-will 1: Enfeebling Strike
Bonus At-Will Power: Holy Strike
Paladin daily 1: On Pain of Death
Paladin daily 5: Hallowed Circle
Paladin daily 9: Crown of Glory
Paladin encounter 1: Shielding Smite
Paladin encounter 3: Invigorating Smite
Paladin encounter 7: Beckon Foe
Paladin utility 10: Turn the Tide
Paladin utility 2: Astral Speech
Paladin utility 6: Wrath of the Gods
ITEMS
Plate Armor, Adventurer's Kit, Greatsword, Amulet of False Life +2, Righteous Greatsword +2, Magic Plate Armor +3, Bracers of Mighty Striking (heroic tier), Dwarven Greaves (heroic tier), Delver's Light (heroic tier)
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as for Jan , what he anyway, bard?? well give him the gnome PP......
I'm wondering, would the virtuos paladin have done better for Lord Firecam?
That looks like rather a good match, actually. I'll probably revisit him after I've seen Divine Power and make a few changes.
as for Jan , what he anyway, bard?? well give him the gnome PP......
Jan isn't a bard, not in my interpretation. But he is pretty good with mechanical toys and thievery, he's got some interesting magical effects, and he can do some really strange things with a crossbow. I haen't yet put up any characters with Paragon Paths, but Fey Beguiler looks pretty likely.
Jan
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Jan Jansen, level 10
Gnome, Artificer
Build: Tinkerer Artificer
Background: Geography - Urban (+2 to Streetwise)
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 10, Con 13, Dex 13, Int 20, Wis 16, Cha 12.
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 10, Con 13, Dex 13, Int 16, Wis 14, Cha 10.
AC: 24 Fort: 19 Reflex: 22 Will: 21
HP: 70 Surges: 7 Surge Value: 17
TRAINED SKILLS
Arcana +17, Thievery +11, Perception +15, Dungeoneering +13, Heal +13
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +8, Bluff +8, Diplomacy +8, Endurance +8, History +12, Insight +10, Intimidate +8, Nature +10, Religion +12, Stealth +10, Streetwise +10, Athletics +7
FEATS
Artificer: Alchemist
Level 1: Fey Trickster
Level 2: Accurate Magic Weapon
Level 4: Ritual Caster
Level 6: Speed Loader
Level 8: Jack of All Trades
Level 10: Improved Initiative
POWERS
Artificer at-will 1: Thundering Armor
Artificer at-will 1: Aggravating Force
Artificer encounter 1: Scouring Weapon
Artificer daily 1: Life-Tapping Darts
Artificer utility 2: Restorative Infusion
Artificer encounter 3: Altered Luck
Artificer daily 5: Predatory Shards
Artificer utility 6: Phantom Structure
Artificer encounter 7: Gale-Force Infusion
Artificer daily 9: Brittle-Skin Missile
Artificer utility 10: Healing Figurine
ITEMS
Ritual Book, Leather Armor, Adventurer's Kit, Hand Crossbow, Implement, Wand, Dagger, Magic Hand Crossbow +3, Shared Suffering Leather Armor +2, Disk of Energy Resistance +2, Magic Wand +2, Cannith Goggles (heroic tier)
RITUALS
Make Whole, Arcane Mark, Comprehend Language, Unseen Servant, Endure Elements, Affect Normal Fire, Enchant Magic Item, Transfer Enchantment, Object Reading, Disenchant Magic Item
FORMULAS
Alchemist's Acid, Blinding Bomb, Alchemist's Spark, Dragonfire Tar, Clockwork Bomb
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Jan Jansen, level 10
Gnome, Artificer
Build: Tinkerer Artificer
Background: Geography - Urban (+2 to Streetwise)
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 10, Con 13, Dex 13, Int 20, Wis 16, Cha 12.
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 10, Con 13, Dex 13, Int 16, Wis 14, Cha 10.
AC: 24 Fort: 19 Reflex: 22 Will: 21
HP: 70 Surges: 7 Surge Value: 17
TRAINED SKILLS
Arcana +17, Thievery +11, Perception +15, Dungeoneering +13, Heal +13
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +8, Bluff +8, Diplomacy +8, Endurance +8, History +12, Insight +10, Intimidate +8, Nature +10, Religion +12, Stealth +10, Streetwise +10, Athletics +7
FEATS
Artificer: Alchemist
Level 1: Fey Trickster
Level 2: Accurate Magic Weapon
Level 4: Ritual Caster
Level 6: Speed Loader
Level 8: Jack of All Trades
Level 10: Improved Initiative
POWERS
Artificer at-will 1: Thundering Armor
Artificer at-will 1: Aggravating Force
Artificer encounter 1: Scouring Weapon
Artificer daily 1: Life-Tapping Darts
Artificer utility 2: Restorative Infusion
Artificer encounter 3: Altered Luck
Artificer daily 5: Predatory Shards
Artificer utility 6: Phantom Structure
Artificer encounter 7: Gale-Force Infusion
Artificer daily 9: Brittle-Skin Missile
Artificer utility 10: Healing Figurine
ITEMS
Ritual Book, Leather Armor, Adventurer's Kit, Hand Crossbow, Implement, Wand, Dagger, Magic Hand Crossbow +3, Shared Suffering Leather Armor +2, Disk of Energy Resistance +2, Magic Wand +2, Cannith Goggles (heroic tier)
RITUALS
Make Whole, Arcane Mark, Comprehend Language, Unseen Servant, Endure Elements, Affect Normal Fire, Enchant Magic Item, Transfer Enchantment, Object Reading, Disenchant Magic Item
FORMULAS
Alchemist's Acid, Blinding Bomb, Alchemist's Spark, Dragonfire Tar, Clockwork Bomb
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I like them, even though I would have given Nalia at least the rogue multiclass feat so that she's trained in thievery.;)
Here's my take on Anomen with the new hybrid rules:
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Anomen, level 11
Human, Fighter|Cleric, Paragon Hybrid
Paragon Hybrid Talent: Channel Divinity (Hybrid Cleric)
Hybrid Talent: Fighter Armor Proficiency
Background: Amn
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 21, Con 17, Dex 11, Int 11, Wis 17, Cha 14.
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 18, Con 16, Dex 10, Int 10, Wis 12, Cha 13.
AC: 28 Fort: 22 Reflex: 18 Will: 20
HP: 80 Surges: 11 Surge Value: 20
TRAINED SKILLS
Heal +13, Athletics +11, Religion +10, History +10
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +1, Arcana +5, Bluff +7, Diplomacy +7, Dungeoneering +8, Endurance +4, Insight +8, Intimidate +7, Nature +8, Perception +8, Stealth +1, Streetwise +8, Thievery +2
FEATS
Human: Hybrid Talent
Level 1: Weapon Proficiency (Triple-headed flail)
Level 2: Weapon Expertise (Flail)
Level 4: Weapon Focus (Heavy Blade)
Level 6: Implement Expertise (holy symbol)
Level 8: Weapon Expertise (Hammer)
Level 10: Power Attack
Level 11: Armor Proficiency (Plate)
POWERS
Bonus At-Will Power: Lance of Faith
Channel Divinity (Hybrid Cleric): Turn Undead
Hybrid Cleric at-will 1: Righteous Brand
Hybrid Fighter at-will 1: Tide of Iron
Paragon Hybrid: Awe Strike
Hybrid encounter 1: Healing Strike
Hybrid daily 1: Avenging Flame
Hybrid utility 2: Cure Light Wounds
Hybrid encounter 3: Shield Slam
Hybrid daily 5: Cometfall Charge
Hybrid utility 6: Battle Awareness
Hybrid encounter 7: Searing Light
Hybrid daily 9: Victorious Surge
Hybrid utility 10: Mass Cure Light Wounds
ITEMS
Ritual Book, Adventurer's Kit, Heartening Layered Plate Armor +2, Magic Flail +3, Symbol of Astral Might +2, Mithral Shield Heavy Shield (heroic tier)
RITUALS
Gentle Repose, Corpse Light, Battlefield Elocution, Delay Affliction, Hand of Fate, Cure Disease, Discern Lies, Remove Affliction
Here's my take on Valygar. He's quick, strong, reasonably tough and fights well with two longswords. If the Katana should be something else (and I gave Yoshimo a scimitar) it doesn't make a huge difference to his feats unless you want it equivalent to a bastard sword, in which case I'd suggest dropping Blade Opportunist to gian the proficiency.
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Valygar, level 10
Human, Ranger
Build: Two-Blade Ranger
Fighting Style: Two-Blade Fighting Style
Background: Occupation - Military (+2 to Endurance)
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 19, Con 14, Dex 16, Int 10, Wis 13, Cha 10.
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 15, Con 14, Dex 14, Int 10, Wis 13, Cha 10.
AC: 24 Fort: 23 Reflex: 23 Will: 19
HP: 76 Surges: 8 Surge Value: 19
TRAINED SKILLS
Perception +11, Nature +11, Heal +11, Athletics +13, Endurance +13, Stealth +12
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +7, Arcana +5, Bluff +5, Diplomacy +5, Dungeoneering +6, History +5, Insight +6, Intimidate +5, Religion +5, Streetwise +5, Thievery +7
FEATS
Human: Lethal Hunter
Level 1: Stubborn Survivor
Level 2: Blade Opportunist
Level 4: Two-Weapon Fighting
Level 6: Two-Weapon Defense
Level 8: Weapon Expertise (Heavy Blade)
Level 10: Weapon Focus (Heavy Blade)
POWERS
Bonus At-Will Power: Twin Strike
Ranger at-will 1: Hit and Run
Ranger at-will 1: Nimble Strike
Ranger encounter 1: Dire Wolverine Strike
Ranger daily 1: Off-Hand Parry
Ranger utility 2: Yield Ground
Ranger encounter 3: Disruptive Strike
Ranger daily 5: Two-Wolf Pounce
Ranger utility 6: Weave Through the Fray
Ranger encounter 7: Claws of the Griffon
Ranger daily 9: Attacks on the Run
Ranger utility 10: Shed the Mark
ITEMS
Adventurer's Kit, Arrows (90), Magic Longsword +3, Lifeblood Hide Armor +2, Collar of Recovery +2, Longbow, Defensive Longsword +2, Bracers of Mighty Striking (heroic tier), Fleetrunner Boots (heroic tier)
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Valygar, level 10
Human, Ranger
Build: Two-Blade Ranger
Fighting Style: Two-Blade Fighting Style
Background: Occupation - Military (+2 to Endurance)
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 19, Con 14, Dex 16, Int 10, Wis 13, Cha 10.
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 15, Con 14, Dex 14, Int 10, Wis 13, Cha 10.
AC: 24 Fort: 23 Reflex: 23 Will: 19
HP: 76 Surges: 8 Surge Value: 19
TRAINED SKILLS
Perception +11, Nature +11, Heal +11, Athletics +13, Endurance +13, Stealth +12
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +7, Arcana +5, Bluff +5, Diplomacy +5, Dungeoneering +6, History +5, Insight +6, Intimidate +5, Religion +5, Streetwise +5, Thievery +7
FEATS
Human: Lethal Hunter
Level 1: Stubborn Survivor
Level 2: Blade Opportunist
Level 4: Two-Weapon Fighting
Level 6: Two-Weapon Defense
Level 8: Weapon Expertise (Heavy Blade)
Level 10: Weapon Focus (Heavy Blade)
POWERS
Bonus At-Will Power: Twin Strike
Ranger at-will 1: Hit and Run
Ranger at-will 1: Nimble Strike
Ranger encounter 1: Dire Wolverine Strike
Ranger daily 1: Off-Hand Parry
Ranger utility 2: Yield Ground
Ranger encounter 3: Disruptive Strike
Ranger daily 5: Two-Wolf Pounce
Ranger utility 6: Weave Through the Fray
Ranger encounter 7: Claws of the Griffon
Ranger daily 9: Attacks on the Run
Ranger utility 10: Shed the Mark
ITEMS
Adventurer's Kit, Arrows (90), Magic Longsword +3, Lifeblood Hide Armor +2, Collar of Recovery +2, Longbow, Defensive Longsword +2, Bracers of Mighty Striking (heroic tier), Fleetrunner Boots (heroic tier)
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Anomen looks just a little odd with his mix of weapon feats. Is their a reason he has two different Weapon Expertise feats, and Weapon Focus with another weapon?
The reason for the two Weapon Expertise feats is that he carried when I took him along both Flail of the Ages and Crom Faeyr and used whatever was more appropriate for the enemies. The Weapon Focus is wrong, heavy blade is directly under hammer.:D
Personally I think I'd go for Warhammer as his main weapon, pick up Expertise and Focus, and let him get Plate proficiency earlier. His stats are really suitable for a Hammer-warrior with high strength and constitution, so he could pick up Hammer Rhythm in the Paragon tier and comes close to Bludgeon Mastery at epic.
Sounds good. Here's a new version:
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Anomen, level 11
Human, Fighter|Cleric, Paragon Hybrid
Hybrid Talent: Fighter Armor Proficiency
Paragon Hybrid Talent: Channel Divinity (Hybrid Cleric)
Background: Amn
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 21, Con 17, Dex 11, Int 11, Wis 17, Cha 14.
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 18, Con 16, Dex 10, Int 10, Wis 12, Cha 13.
AC: 29 Fort: 22 Reflex: 18 Will: 20
HP: 80 Surges: 11 Surge Value: 20
TRAINED SKILLS
Heal +13, Athletics +11, Religion +10, History +10
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +1, Arcana +5, Bluff +7, Diplomacy +7, Dungeoneering +8, Endurance +4, Insight +8, Intimidate +7, Nature +8, Perception +8, Stealth +1, Streetwise +8, Thievery +2
FEATS
Human: Hybrid Talent
Level 1: Armor Proficiency (Plate)
Level 2: Weapon Expertise (Hammer)
Level 4: Weapon Focus (Hammer)
Level 6: Implement Expertise (holy symbol)
Level 8: Weapon Proficiency (Triple-headed flail)
Level 10: Power Attack
Level 11: Armor Specialization (Plate)
POWERS
Bonus At-Will Power: Lance of Faith
Channel Divinity (Hybrid Cleric): Turn Undead
Hybrid Cleric at-will 1: Righteous Brand
Hybrid Fighter at-will 1: Tide of Iron
Paragon Hybrid: Awe Strike
Hybrid encounter 1: Healing Strike
Hybrid daily 1: Avenging Flame
Hybrid utility 2: Cure Light Wounds
Hybrid encounter 3: Shield Slam
Hybrid daily 5: Cometfall Charge
Hybrid utility 6: Battle Awareness
Hybrid encounter 7: Searing Light
Hybrid daily 9: Victorious Surge
Hybrid utility 10: Mass Cure Light Wounds
ITEMS
Ritual Book, Adventurer's Kit, Heartening Layered Plate Armor +2, Magic Flail +3, Symbol of Astral Might +2, Mithral Shield Heavy Shield (heroic tier)
RITUALS
Gentle Repose, Corpse Light, Battlefield Elocution, Delay Affliction, Hand of Fate, Cure Disease, Discern Lies, Remove Affliction
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Anomen, level 11
Human, Fighter|Cleric, Paragon Hybrid
Hybrid Talent: Fighter Armor Proficiency
Paragon Hybrid Talent: Channel Divinity (Hybrid Cleric)
Background: Amn
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 21, Con 17, Dex 11, Int 11, Wis 17, Cha 14.
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 18, Con 16, Dex 10, Int 10, Wis 12, Cha 13.
AC: 29 Fort: 22 Reflex: 18 Will: 20
HP: 80 Surges: 11 Surge Value: 20
TRAINED SKILLS
Heal +13, Athletics +11, Religion +10, History +10
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +1, Arcana +5, Bluff +7, Diplomacy +7, Dungeoneering +8, Endurance +4, Insight +8, Intimidate +7, Nature +8, Perception +8, Stealth +1, Streetwise +8, Thievery +2
FEATS
Human: Hybrid Talent
Level 1: Armor Proficiency (Plate)
Level 2: Weapon Expertise (Hammer)
Level 4: Weapon Focus (Hammer)
Level 6: Implement Expertise (holy symbol)
Level 8: Weapon Proficiency (Triple-headed flail)
Level 10: Power Attack
Level 11: Armor Specialization (Plate)
POWERS
Bonus At-Will Power: Lance of Faith
Channel Divinity (Hybrid Cleric): Turn Undead
Hybrid Cleric at-will 1: Righteous Brand
Hybrid Fighter at-will 1: Tide of Iron
Paragon Hybrid: Awe Strike
Hybrid encounter 1: Healing Strike
Hybrid daily 1: Avenging Flame
Hybrid utility 2: Cure Light Wounds
Hybrid encounter 3: Shield Slam
Hybrid daily 5: Cometfall Charge
Hybrid utility 6: Battle Awareness
Hybrid encounter 7: Searing Light
Hybrid daily 9: Victorious Surge
Hybrid utility 10: Mass Cure Light Wounds
ITEMS
Ritual Book, Adventurer's Kit, Heartening Layered Plate Armor +2, Magic Flail +3, Symbol of Astral Might +2, Mithral Shield Heavy Shield (heroic tier)
RITUALS
Gentle Repose, Corpse Light, Battlefield Elocution, Delay Affliction, Hand of Fate, Cure Disease, Discern Lies, Remove Affliction
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I'd rather say that Aerie was a Flame of Hope. Angelic Aspect would have made an action point-junky out of her, the punisher theme of Blightspeaker doesn't fit and I can't picture her as a Hammer either.:D
Epic Destinies will be the hard ones. Minsc works as a glorious spirit, Keldorn could be a Chosen of Torm, Nalia and Imoen could become archmages (even though Imoen founded a thieves' guild). Edwina probably lost her powers, otherwise she would have changed back to Edwin, Cernd and Mazzy are dead. Jaheira could be a Ghost Harper, but she only worked sporadically with them. I'm not sure about Anomen, Aerie and Viconia but I hope Divine Power will solve that problem.
By the way, what would be the epic destiny of the main character? I could see him as Demigod, Chosen of Bhaal (slayer transformation utility?) or as the new Avatar of Death. But that's all before he gave up his power (assuming he did). What would he be after that?
I’ve been considering some of the characters and checking through threads about Divine Power to glean information on what might be suitable for some of the characters. This isn’t a complete or final list, but here are some suggestions for the Paragon Paths and Epic Destinies for the characters as I see them at the moment.
Aerie – as an Elf Invoker. No one seems to be talking about Invoker PPs, but Flame of Hope would probably be my choice anyway. For an Epic Destiny, Avatar of Hope and Avatar of Life sound possible, but I’d probably pick Revered One if doing it now. I would pick up the new Divine Healer MC feat for the Heal skill and the cleric’s Healer’s Lore ability.
Anomen – human cleric. The Battle Chaplain PP gives shield proficiency (with all shields), allows you to mark adjacent enemies who an ally hits, and gives bonuses to damage rolls for allies in some circumstances. It’s very strong competition for Warpriest. For an Epic Destiny I could see Chosen as it is, or one of the Avatar of… series – War seems likeliest for a LG Anomen, perhaps Freedom for the CN version.
Cernd – shifter druid. If druid is the way to go I suggest Blood Moon Stalker for a PP. It seems to work both for flavour and effectiveness if you see Cernd as a wild shape druid/warrior, with the various abilities that make your combat effectiveness while wild shaped better. A “calmer” version of Cernd might be better done with Guardian of the Living Gate, which could work as a Druid investigating general problems rather than specifically aberrations. Moonstalker is the shifter racial PP, and that also could work. The Primal Avatar ED looks the best for a druid, compared to most others.
Edwin – human wizard. Bonded Summoner looks pretty obvious, boosting his summoned creatures. Archmage looks similarly sensible.
Haer’Dalis – Tiefling Bard. If you have him as a Bard, one of the more interesting PPs involves multiclassing into Ranger and picking up the Blade Dancer PP. It’s a really nice alternative to Stormwarden, slightly more defensive but with lots of utility for someone using two light blades. Your tempest fighter version does open up the Doomguard PP, which is fighter only. If you prefer my Bravura Warlord suggestion, then Blade Dancer still looks like a nice option, but Flamebrow Commander adds a touch of crazy aggression while not giving more healing. Deadly Trickster or Punisher of the Gods would be likely choices for an ED, with the former being more in his style. Harbinger of Doom would also look appropriate, considering his background.
Imoen – human, Rogue/Wizard multiclass. Archmage, Deadly Trickster and Demigod all have their good features. None of the destinies from Arcane Power seem right, and by this stage she’s more a wizard than a rogue so I don’t think those are appropriate. Though Keybearer (Dragon #372) is about exploration, travel, and ability to bypass obstacles which would seem possible.
Jaheira – half-elf, Druid or Warden or perhaps Cleric. As a half elf, Jaheira has access to PPs that humans and elves can pick, and Twilight Guardian looks like a very good option. “Feel nature’s wrath!” sounds very Jaheira-like. I’m inclined to wait till I’ve seen Divine Power, but Avatar of Life sounds possible for an Epic Destiny, as does Chosen, and Harper of Legend is another possibility.
Jan Jansen – gnome artificer. Fey Beguiler looks like an excellent choice associated with Wizards and Rogues. Battle Engineer would be an alternative usable by Artificers, but while I used the class it’s not entirely appropriate. I’d almost be inclined to choose Archspell as his epic destiny, if I thought there was a really appropriate choice for the spell. My primary alternative would be Eternal Seeker, since he doesn’t seem to really know what he’s trying to do except that it involves trained monkeys.
Keldorn – human paladin. I had Justiciar in mind when I was thinking about him, but there are several PPs in Divine Power that might work better. I’m rather interested in Questing Knight and Faithful Shield, but others might work too. Also, Knight of Celestia does have some possibilities. I’d pick Chosen for an Epic Destiny, with Keldorn as Torm’s greatest champion on Faerun.
Korgan – dwarf fighter. Several possible paragon paths, all with their benefits. I’d suggest Iron Vanguard PP and Undying Warrior ED reflecting Korgan’s toughness, but Ravager and Punisher of the Gods might be quite suitable for a more destructive alternative.
Mazzy - halfling Ranger/Warlord. While there’s a PP specifically for Ranger/Warlords, it relies on heavy thrown weapons and doesn’t seem right to me. I do think the Warlord options are better for Mazzy, and Platinum Warlord in particular is my preference even if it might seem a little odd. I’d pick Chosen as her ED, for the same reason I like it for Keldorn.
Minsc – can’t improve on your effort, particularly with regard to Glorious Spirit as the epic destiny.
Nalia – human wizard. Spellstorm Mage and Archmage seem like sensible options, although I might look at Magister in place of Archmage.
Sarevok – human fighter. Lots of possible paragon paths, though I might choose Kensai. Adamantine Soldier looks like a good ED.
Valygar – human Ranger. Stormwarden is still perhaps the best choice for a 2W ranger, and it doesn’t seem like a bad choice for Valygar. The simplest choice for an epic destiny is Martial Archetype, but there’s an interesting option with Dark Wanderer to reflect his personality, in that the immortality option involves cutting free of outside influence by fate and the gods.
Viconia – drow cleric. There may be a suitable PP in Divine Power, but none of the names leap out at me as particularly desirable and the descriptions I’ve seen don’t inspire me either. I’m fairly sure there’ll be nothing suitable soon either, as part of the “philosophy” of 4th Edition is that characters will be heroes, and evil characters are less suitable. This is less significant for some classes, but any Divine characters are likely to lack significant support. Divine Oracle or perhaps Miracle Worker look possible, but the one I like best is a reworked Shiere Knight, or perhaps something like Dark Reckoner which would require multiclassing with Warlock. I do think the Saint will make a suitable epic destiny, particularly since it has a dark variant.
Yoshimo – human ranger/rogue. I’m inclined to use Ruthless Punisher. A PP based around hunting down humanoid foes looks ideal for a bounty hunter, and the abilities are usable with bow or sword. I’m slightly tempted by the Adroit Explorer but that’s a lot more about survival. I’m not going to suggest an epic destiny, for reasons that should be apparent.
For the main character, I've no particular preferences. I refuse to acknowledge that Abdel Adrian exists, which leaves the choices entirely open. My most recent character was an elven ranger and would convert easily to archery ranger, sylvan archer PP (though twilight guardian is tempting), and probably the Godhunter ED if I dropped demigod for some reason.
Missing two of my favorites:
Dynaheir
Safana
I've not actually done the characters from BG1 yet. It's on my list of projects, though. Safana would be a Human Rogue, probably a cunning rogue. Dynaheir is more interesting. while Human Wizard seems obvious, I think it might be possible to make a sorceror version, or even something less likely.
I like Anomen though I didn't in the game. Jan and Valygar are great too.
And I still can't find Vic. I looked through the entire thread. There's no one above Aerie.
I don't think Aerie could be Invoker. Doesn't suit her.
Viconia, level 10
Drow, Cleric
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 10, Con 9, Dex 20, Int 16, Wis 20, Cha 18.
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 10, Con 9, Dex 18, Int 16, Wis 18, Cha 14.
AC: 24 Fort: 17 Reflex: 22 Will: 24
HP: 66 Surges: 6 Surge Value: 16
TRAINED SKILLS
Religion +13, Diplomacy +16, Insight +15, Heal +15
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +12, Arcana +10, Bluff +11, Dungeoneering +12, Endurance +6, History +10, Intimidate +13, Nature +12, Perception +12, Stealth +14, Streetwise +11, Thievery +12, Athletics +7
FEATS
Cleric: Ritual Caster
Level 1: Greater Turning
Level 2: Radiant Soul
Level 4: Melee Training (Wisdom)
Level 6: Restful Healing
Level 8: Jack of All Trades
Level 10: Improved Initiative
POWERS
Cleric at-will 1: Gaze of Defiance
Cleric at-will 1: Sacred Flame
Cleric daily 1: Cascade of Light
Cleric daily 5: Consecrated Ground
Cleric daily 9: Flame Strike
Cleric encounter 1: Cause Fear
Cleric encounter 3: Command
Cleric encounter 7: Break the Spirit
Cleric utility 10: Mass Cure Light Wounds
Cleric utility 2: Cure Light Wounds
Cleric utility 6: Cure Serious Wounds
ITEMS
Ritual Book, Magic Leather Armor +2, Magic Mace +2, Healer's Brooch +2
RITUALS
Gentle Repose, Brew Potion, Hand of Fate, Discern Lies, Raise Dead, Remove Affliction
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I’ve been considering some of the characters and checking through threads about Divine Power to glean information on what might be suitable for some of the characters. This isn’t a complete or final list, but here are some suggestions for the Paragon Paths and Epic Destinies for the characters as I see them at the moment.
I am looking too for bits and pieces of divine power, unfortunately I don't find much. I'll probably get it next week between the two most difficult exams, so I'll start updating at the weekend.
Aerie – as an Elf Invoker. No one seems to be talking about Invoker PPs, but Flame of Hope would probably be my choice anyway. For an Epic Destiny, Avatar of Hope and Avatar of Life sound possible, but I’d probably pick Revered One if doing it now. I would pick up the new Divine Healer MC feat for the Heal skill and the cleric’s Healer’s Lore ability.
Flame of Hope sounds good. Revered One could be interesting if you want to get different Channel Divinity feats. Unfortunately none of her gods have them. One is an exarch and the other a primordial.
Avatar doesn't seem right to me, that would mean that Aerie doesn't have her own soul but becomes one with a god after she dies (and it would make her very similar to the Bhaalspawn). And I don't know if Healer's Lore is a that good idea. It only works with cleric powers.Anomen – human cleric. The Battle Chaplain PP gives shield proficiency (with all shields), allows you to mark adjacent enemies who an ally hits, and gives bonuses to damage rolls for allies in some circumstances. It’s very strong competition for Warpriest. For an Epic Destiny I could see Chosen as it is, or one of the Avatar of… series – War seems likeliest for a LG Anomen, perhaps Freedom for the CN version.
I'm more a friend of the Fighter/Cleric hybrid with Warpriest. Epic Destiny could be Chosen of Helm (again, I'm against making an NPC an Avatar) or Demigod, since Chosen of Helm doesn't have an official utility power.
Cernd – shifter druid. If druid is the way to go I suggest Blood Moon Stalker for a PP. It seems to work both for flavour and effectiveness if you see Cernd as a wild shape druid/warrior, with the various abilities that make your combat effectiveness while wild shaped better. A “calmer” version of Cernd might be better done with Guardian of the Living Gate, which could work as a Druid investigating general problems rather than specifically aberrations. Moonstalker is the shifter racial PP, and that also could work. The Primal Avatar ED looks the best for a druid, compared to most others.
100% agreement on Blood Moon Stalker.:D Primal Avatar is fine with me too, as long as Primal Power isn't out (even though he got killed by his son).;)
Edwin – human wizard. Bonded Summoner looks pretty obvious, boosting his summoned creatures. Archmage looks similarly sensible.
Haer’Dalis – Tiefling Bard. If you have him as a Bard, one of the more interesting PPs involves multiclassing into Ranger and picking up the Blade Dancer PP. It’s a really nice alternative to Stormwarden, slightly more defensive but with lots of utility for someone using two light blades. Your tempest fighter version does open up the Doomguard PP, which is fighter only. If you prefer my Bravura Warlord suggestion, then Blade Dancer still looks like a nice option, but Flamebrow Commander adds a touch of crazy aggression while not giving more healing. Deadly Trickster or Punisher of the Gods would be likely choices for an ED, with the former being more in his style. Harbinger of Doom would also look appropriate, considering his background.
I almost believe that Haer'Dalis is the one we have the most builds for.:D I agree with the paragon paths (especially Doomguard). Deadly Trickster looks fine, maybe Harbinger of Doom could be funny too. I think he's to unreliable to find multiple gods that want to make him punisher.
Imoen – human, Rogue/Wizard multiclass. Archmage, Deadly Trickster and Demigod all have their good features. None of the destinies from Arcane Power seem right, and by this stage she’s more a wizard than a rogue so I don’t think those are appropriate. Though Keybearer (Dragon #372) is about exploration, travel, and ability to bypass obstacles which would seem possible.
Demigod is something she gave up at the end of ToB so I would say Archmage or Deadly Trickster seems fine. Keybearer seems to mobile to settle down found a thieves guild.
Jaheira – half-elf, Druid or Warden or perhaps Cleric. As a half elf, Jaheira has access to PPs that humans and elves can pick, and Twilight Guardian looks like a very good option. “Feel nature’s wrath!” sounds very Jaheira-like. I’m inclined to wait till I’ve seen Divine Power, but Avatar of Life sounds possible for an Epic Destiny, as does Chosen, and Harper of Legend is another possibility.
I don't think that you can use Twilight Guardian. Dual Heritage only speaks of feats and in the PHB 2 they mention that half-elf exemplars don't take racial paragon path's but the Versatile Master feat. Chosen of Silvanus would be a good possibility (even though I almost think that we're getting too many chosen, either they were made that after ToB or they had a lot of secrets.;)
Jan Jansen – gnome artificer. Fey Beguiler looks like an excellent choice associated with Wizards and Rogues. Battle Engineer would be an alternative usable by Artificers, but while I used the class it’s not entirely appropriate. I’d almost be inclined to choose Archspell as his epic destiny, if I thought there was a really appropriate choice for the spell. My primary alternative would be Eternal Seeker, since he doesn’t seem to really know what he’s trying to do except that it involves trained monkeys.
Fey Beguiler sounds good, for Archspell we would need something really wacky.:D Eternal Seeker could work fine.
Keldorn – human paladin. I had Justiciar in mind when I was thinking about him, but there are several PPs in Divine Power that might work better. I’m rather interested in Questing Knight and Faithful Shield, but others might work too. Also, Knight of Celestia does have some possibilities. I’d pick Chosen for an Epic Destiny, with Keldorn as Torm’s greatest champion on Faerun.
I would make him a Champion of Order. That guy almost threw his own wife into jail for Torm's sake.:D But Justiciar might be better for more charisma-heavy builds. For him Chosen really fits because it is mentioned that he appears at Torm's right hand (even though "ghostly form" doesn't really scream "exarch";) ).
Korgan – dwarf fighter. Several possible paragon paths, all with their benefits. I’d suggest Iron Vanguard PP and Undying Warrior ED reflecting Korgan’s toughness, but Ravager and Punisher of the Gods might be quite suitable for a more destructive alternative.
I like the second build more. I'm not sure of Korgan as an Undying Warrior, after all he's missing after a battle with the drow. But there could be a few evil (or even neutral) gods that could consider making him a punisher.
Mazzy - halfling Ranger/Warlord. While there’s a PP specifically for Ranger/Warlords, it relies on heavy thrown weapons and doesn’t seem right to me. I do think the Warlord options are better for Mazzy, and Platinum Warlord in particular is my preference even if it might seem a little odd. I’d pick Chosen as her ED, for the same reason I like it for Keldorn.
Mazzy died of old age, I'm really not sure what to make of her Epic Destiny. For the PP Platinum Warlord (reflavoured for Arvoreen) would work fine.
Nalia – human wizard. Spellstorm Mage and Archmage seem like sensible options, although I might look at Magister in place of Archmage.
I think Archmage works fine.;)
Sarevok – human fighter. Lots of possible paragon paths, though I might choose Kensai. Adamantine Soldier looks like a good ED.
I didn't think about Kensai, but it would work well especially if you consider that his girlfriend was from Kara-Tur. Adamantine Soldier too is a cool idea.
Valygar – human Ranger. Stormwarden is still perhaps the best choice for a 2W ranger, and it doesn’t seem like a bad choice for Valygar. The simplest choice for an epic destiny is Martial Archetype, but there’s an interesting option with Dark Wanderer to reflect his personality, in that the immortality option involves cutting free of outside influence by fate and the gods.
Like Imoen Valgyar settled down at the end, so I'm not sure if a wanderer destiny works for him.
Viconia – drow cleric. There may be a suitable PP in Divine Power, but none of the names leap out at me as particularly desirable and the descriptions I’ve seen don’t inspire me either. I’m fairly sure there’ll be nothing suitable soon either, as part of the “philosophy” of 4th Edition is that characters will be heroes, and evil characters are less suitable. This is less significant for some classes, but any Divine characters are likely to lack significant support. Divine Oracle or perhaps Miracle Worker look possible, but the one I like best is a reworked Shiere Knight, or perhaps something like Dark Reckoner which would require multiclassing with Warlock. I do think the Saint will make a suitable epic destiny, particularly since it has a dark variant.
I'm not sure about a paragon path. I hope I'll find something in Divine Power. There are only three things that are really excluded strength-based, light, and other gods of the realms. For an Epic Destiny Revered One could work too. She served two or three gods, maybe she had some kind of revelation.:D
Yoshimo – human ranger/rogue. I’m inclined to use Ruthless Punisher. A PP based around hunting down humanoid foes looks ideal for a bounty hunter, and the abilities are usable with bow or sword. I’m slightly tempted by the Adroit Explorer but that’s a lot more about survival. I’m not going to suggest an epic destiny, for reasons that should be apparent.
Sounds good.
For the main character, I've no particular preferences. I refuse to acknowledge that Abdel Adrian exists, which leaves the choices entirely open. My most recent character was an elven ranger and would convert easily to archery ranger, sylvan archer PP (though twilight guardian is tempting), and probably the Godhunter ED if I dropped demigod for some reason.
Amen. Who talks about Abdel?:D I picture it this way: Up to the fight with Melissan the Bhaalspawn is either Demigod or Avatar of Death. After that he has the choice. Either he ignites his divine spark and absorbs the essence, jumping over the demigod-status and becoming a lesser deity (Bhaal was an intermediate, but a lot of his power has to be in Cyric). Or he chooses like Imoen to give up his divine spark and live on as a mortal, what automatically deletes all the powers he got from his epic destiny. I thought also about Godhunter as recompensation, another option I found interesting was Punisher of the Gods. Somebody who turns down the opportunity to become a god is pretty much the perfect person to invest power into.
My best character in Baldur's Gate was a ranger with the Stalker kit and [url=http://www.gamebanshee.com/baldursgateii/equipment/images/daggerofthestarplus5.jpg]this little treasure
in the off-hand. Oh the sneak attacks I could dish out... There's no way to convert that into 4E, especially since you're now better off using two medium-sized weapons instead of an off-hand weapon. Where has the style gone?
Just for information, Edwina do change back to Edwin if you follow his quest ;)
Yes, but after ToB the poor guy tries to take on Elminster and becomes Edwina again. :D
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Viconia, level 10
Drow, Cleric
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 10, Con 9, Dex 20, Int 16, Wis 20, Cha 18.
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 10, Con 9, Dex 18, Int 16, Wis 18, Cha 14.
AC: 24 Fort: 17 Reflex: 22 Will: 24
HP: 66 Surges: 6 Surge Value: 16
TRAINED SKILLS
Religion +13, Diplomacy +16, Insight +15, Heal +15
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +12, Arcana +10, Bluff +11, Dungeoneering +12, Endurance +6, History +10, Intimidate +13, Nature +12, Perception +12, Stealth +14, Streetwise +11, Thievery +12, Athletics +7
FEATS
Cleric: Ritual Caster
Level 1: Greater Turning
Level 2: Radiant Soul
Level 4: Melee Training (Wisdom)
Level 6: Restful Healing
Level 8: Jack of All Trades
Level 10: Improved Initiative
POWERS
Cleric at-will 1: Gaze of Defiance
Cleric at-will 1: Sacred Flame
Cleric daily 1: Cascade of Light
Cleric daily 5: Consecrated Ground
Cleric daily 9: Flame Strike
Cleric encounter 1: Cause Fear
Cleric encounter 3: Command
Cleric encounter 7: Break the Spirit
Cleric utility 10: Mass Cure Light Wounds
Cleric utility 2: Cure Light Wounds
Cleric utility 6: Cure Serious Wounds
ITEMS
Ritual Book, Magic Leather Armor +2, Magic Mace +2, Healer's Brooch +2
RITUALS
Gentle Repose, Brew Potion, Hand of Fate, Discern Lies, Raise Dead, Remove Affliction
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I just love her.
Valygar as Martial Archetype isn't bad. And Keldorn is really bound to his faith.
I just loved Jaheira a bit more.
Yep, Yoshi seems almost impossible to make. The problem with him is that the weapons list of the rogue isn't only short, it's directly tied to his powers. A rogue can be proficient with any type of weapon, but he can't even use it with his at-wills. And unfortunately there's only an exception for eladrin. But he was definitely a martial character, his abilities had nothing magical about them.... We can only hope that a new class will cover him, otherwise we're either stuck with a fighter who paragon multiclasses into rogue, or a rogue that uses a rapier instead of a katana.
I'm tempted to wait for the upcoming assassin class in Dragon to find out about Yoshimo. From what little we've been told it seems like it might be a good fit.
I'm tempted to wait for the upcoming assassin class in Dragon to find out about Yoshimo. From what little we've been told it seems like it might be a good fit.
I thought about assassin. In the end I went with a slightly unusual Ranger, which is posted up the thread.
And... I picked up Divine Power today. On a first look through I picked out a few things for various characters.
Aerie. As an alternative to Flame Of Hope there's the Divine Philosopher PP. Conceptually it's an Invoker that's devoted to scholarship. You get a divine at-will from another class as an encounter power, bonuses against monsters if you can make a knowledge check about them, and powers that weaken and make vulnerable enemies that depend on your Intelligence bonus. It all looks rather suitable.
For Keldorn, the Virtuous Paladin looks like an interesting alternative. Cha-Wis-Str in that order are the primary stats, and it's a paladin that's really hard to take down with powers granting save bonuses, defence bonuses and some healing.
Viconia still lacks a really satisfactory PP. But I think Astral Savant could work, a deep understanding of the gods is believable and the abilities are mostly not ones that would be inappropriate - in fact Cold isn't a bad damage type for a deity of Darkness. Holy Emmisary might work in terms of abilities, but looks wrong in terms of behaviour.
Slightly off-topic, I had a thought about Jaheira. A druid/cleric would have access to Warpriest, which I don't think is a bad fit for her combative personality and original classes. Especially since she can't go with Twilight Guardian as I thought (which I think is a pity, because I do think it's a good fit).
In the bath tonight I had an idea. I don't know if this works for Anomen, but it's a different approach to him:
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Anomen Delryn, level 10
Human, Paladin
Build: Protecting Paladin
Background: Society - Noble (+2 to Insight)
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 20, Con 14, Dex 10, Int 11, Wis 14, Cha 13.
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 16, Con 14, Dex 10, Int 11, Wis 12, Cha 13.
AC: 25 Fort: 22 Reflex: 19 Will: 19
HP: 88 Surges: 12 Surge Value: 22
TRAINED SKILLS
Intimidate +11, Religion +10, Heal +12, Endurance +8, Insight +14
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +1, Arcana +5, Bluff +6, Diplomacy +6, Dungeoneering +7, History +5, Nature +7, Perception +7, Stealth +1, Streetwise +6, Thievery +1, Athletics +6
FEATS
Human: Toughness
Level 1: Action Surge
Level 2: Human Perseverance
Level 4: Weapon Focus (Hammer)
Level 6: Weapon Expertise (Hammer)
Level 8: Powerful Charge
Level 10: Initiate of the Faith
POWERS
Bonus At-Will Power: Valiant Strike
Paladin at-will 1: Holy Strike
Paladin at-will 1: Challenging Strike
Paladin encounter 1: Piercing Smite
Paladin daily 1: Paladin's Judgment
Paladin utility 2: Divine Counter
Paladin encounter 3: Staggering Smite
Paladin daily 5: Martyr's Retribution
Paladin utility 6: Shield of Discipline
Paladin encounter 7: Thunder Smite
Paladin daily 9: Knightly Intercession
Paladin utility 10: Turn the Tide
ITEMS
Plate Armor, Adventurer's Kit, Heavy Shield, Warhammer
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Why? Well, he's a holy warrior and in 4e that can mean Paladin quite as much as Cleric, even if the character isn't LG. This way he gets a full set of armour, shield and weapon proficiencies. In terms of his goals, becoming a full member of the ORH and being knighted is perhaps more a goal to appeal to a paladin than to a cleric. While I'm not absolutely convinced by the idea, I thought I'd throw it out and see the reaction.
Anomen Delryn, level 10
Human, Paladin
Build: Protecting Paladin
Background: Society - Noble (+2 to Insight)
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 20, Con 14, Dex 10, Int 11, Wis 14, Cha 13.
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 16, Con 14, Dex 10, Int 11, Wis 12, Cha 13.
AC: 25 Fort: 22 Reflex: 19 Will: 19
HP: 88 Surges: 12 Surge Value: 22
TRAINED SKILLS
Intimidate +11, Religion +10, Heal +12, Endurance +8, Insight +14
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +1, Arcana +5, Bluff +6, Diplomacy +6, Dungeoneering +7, History +5, Nature +7, Perception +7, Stealth +1, Streetwise +6, Thievery +1, Athletics +6
FEATS
Human: Toughness
Level 1: Action Surge
Level 2: Human Perseverance
Level 4: Weapon Focus (Hammer)
Level 6: Weapon Expertise (Hammer)
Level 8: Powerful Charge
Level 10: Initiate of the Faith
POWERS
Bonus At-Will Power: Valiant Strike
Paladin at-will 1: Holy Strike
Paladin at-will 1: Challenging Strike
Paladin encounter 1: Piercing Smite
Paladin daily 1: Paladin's Judgment
Paladin utility 2: Divine Counter
Paladin encounter 3: Staggering Smite
Paladin daily 5: Martyr's Retribution
Paladin utility 6: Shield of Discipline
Paladin encounter 7: Thunder Smite
Paladin daily 9: Knightly Intercession
Paladin utility 10: Turn the Tide
ITEMS
Plate Armor, Adventurer's Kit, Heavy Shield, Warhammer
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Why? Well, he's a holy warrior and in 4e that can mean Paladin quite as much as Cleric, even if the character isn't LG. This way he gets a full set of armour, shield and weapon proficiencies. In terms of his goals, becoming a full member of the ORH and being knighted is perhaps more a goal to appeal to a paladin than to a cleric. While I'm not absolutely convinced by the idea, I thought I'd throw it out and see the reaction.
In the bath tonight I had an idea. I don't know if this works for Anomen, but it's a different approach to him:
Bathing makes you think of Anomen?;)
in 3.x Nature's warrior worked best for her, in 4e, anything in the phb doesnt really set right to me.
Mazzy, ranged, never used her as such, front line.
many of my halfling characters went front line and lived to take down many orcs.
Why not just make Mazzy a protecting paladin? I never used her as an archer really, felt it was more in-character for her to be in the frontlines with a melee weapon. The only reason why she was a fighter and not a paladin in bg2 was due to mechanics after all:P
I've always found it useful to have an archer along in the early part of BG2. It's not like BG1 where sufficient missile fire can prevent melee in many cases, but one thing I find is that a lot of fights take place in narrow "corridors" where there's not room for a full group in the front line. That makes it useful for other characters to have missile fire to support them. Mazzy is the best archer in the game, and definitely not the bost melee fighter. So when I keep her in the party it's usually for her archery. While I can see the argument that she's temperamentally suited to the front lines, the fact that she has five stars in Shortbow and one in ShortSword suggest she's a specialist in archery anyway. That anyway is why I've made her as a hybrid Ranger-Warlord.
Bathing makes you think of Anomen?;)
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it's because of you've forced me to take an overdose of Brain Bleach. 
:PAerie. As an alternative to Flame Of Hope there's the Divine Philosopher PP. Conceptually it's an Invoker that's devoted to scholarship. You get a divine at-will from another class as an encounter power, bonuses against monsters if you can make a knowledge check about them, and powers that weaken and make vulnerable enemies that depend on your Intelligence bonus. It all looks rather suitable.
I never saw Aerie as someone who actually studies to bring foes down (and to be effective a Divine Philosopher she would need a lot of "knowledge" skills). She studied her kind(s) of magic and healed or killed as needed. I still think that flame of hope is a better fit. For an epic destiny I'm considering saint, but I still have to look how it synergises with invoker. (If it had been possible in AD&D she probably would have taken Exalted Angel. New wings and being immortal and able to stay at the side of the SC when he ascends to godhood? Score.:D )
For Keldorn, the Virtuous Paladin looks like an interesting alternative. Cha-Wis-Str in that order are the primary stats, and it's a paladin that's really hard to take down with powers granting save bonuses, defence bonuses and some healing.
Maybe a mix of different builds would work best for Keldorn, for example Ardent Vow could work well for him. The Inquisitor kit didn't have lay on hands.
The description of Saint fits him a lot better than Chosen, but the rules don't fit at all, so I guess Chosen is still the way to go.
Viconia still lacks a really satisfactory PP. But I think Astral Savant could work, a deep understanding of the gods is believable and the abilities are mostly not ones that would be inappropriate - in fact Cold isn't a bad damage type for a deity of Darkness. Holy Emmisary might work in terms of abilities, but looks wrong in terms of behaviour.
Astral Savant sounds good. And I would even go so far to say that her epic destiny should definitely be Revered One, I guess we won't get anything better.
Slightly off-topic, I had a thought about Jaheira. A druid/cleric would have access to Warpriest, which I don't think is a bad fit for her combative personality and original classes. Especially since she can't go with Twilight Guardian as I thought (which I think is a pity, because I do think it's a good fit).
Sounds good, I have to try that.
In the bath tonight I had an idea. I don't know if this works for Anomen, but it's a different approach to him:Show====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&D Character Builder ======
Anomen Delryn, level 10
Human, Paladin
Build: Protecting Paladin
Background: Society - Noble (+2 to Insight)
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 20, Con 14, Dex 10, Int 11, Wis 14, Cha 13.
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 16, Con 14, Dex 10, Int 11, Wis 12, Cha 13.
AC: 25 Fort: 22 Reflex: 19 Will: 19
HP: 88 Surges: 12 Surge Value: 22
TRAINED SKILLS
Intimidate +11, Religion +10, Heal +12, Endurance +8, Insight +14
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +1, Arcana +5, Bluff +6, Diplomacy +6, Dungeoneering +7, History +5, Nature +7, Perception +7, Stealth +1, Streetwise +6, Thievery +1, Athletics +6
FEATS
Human: Toughness
Level 1: Action Surge
Level 2: Human Perseverance
Level 4: Weapon Focus (Hammer)
Level 6: Weapon Expertise (Hammer)
Level 8: Powerful Charge
Level 10: Initiate of the Faith
POWERS
Bonus At-Will Power: Valiant Strike
Paladin at-will 1: Holy Strike
Paladin at-will 1: Challenging Strike
Paladin encounter 1: Piercing Smite
Paladin daily 1: Paladin's Judgment
Paladin utility 2: Divine Counter
Paladin encounter 3: Staggering Smite
Paladin daily 5: Martyr's Retribution
Paladin utility 6: Shield of Discipline
Paladin encounter 7: Thunder Smite
Paladin daily 9: Knightly Intercession
Paladin utility 10: Turn the Tide
ITEMS
Plate Armor, Adventurer's Kit, Heavy Shield, Warhammer
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Why? Well, he's a holy warrior and in 4e that can mean Paladin quite as much as Cleric, even if the character isn't LG. This way he gets a full set of armour, shield and weapon proficiencies. In terms of his goals, becoming a full member of the ORH and being knighted is perhaps more a goal to appeal to a paladin than to a cleric. While I'm not absolutely convinced by the idea, I thought I'd throw it out and see the reaction.
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Mazzy, level 10
Halfling, Paladin
Build: Protecting Paladin
Background: Amn
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 15, Con 13, Dex 16, Int 10, Wis 12, Cha 19.
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 13, Con 13, Dex 14, Int 10, Wis 12, Cha 15.
AC: 27 Fort: 20 Reflex: 23 Will: 22
HP: 87 Surges: 11 Surge Value: 21
TRAINED SKILLS
Religion +10, Insight +11, Heal +11, Diplomacy +14, Intimidate +14
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +6, Arcana +5, Bluff +9, Dungeoneering +6, Endurance +2, History +5, Nature +6, Perception +6, Stealth +4, Streetwise +10, Thievery +7, Athletics +3
FEATS
Level 1: Melee Training (Charisma)
Level 2: Healing Hands
Level 4: Toughness
Level 6: Lost in the Crowd
Level 8: Inspiring Leader
Level 10: Weapon Proficiency (Shortbow)
POWERS
Paladin at-will 1: Enfeebling Strike
Paladin at-will 1: Bolstering Strike
Paladin encounter 1: Shielding Smite
Paladin daily 1: Radiant Delirium
Paladin utility 2: Astral Speech
Paladin encounter 3: Righteous Smite
Paladin daily 5: Sign of Vulnerability
Paladin utility 6: Wrath of the Gods
Paladin encounter 7: Beckon Foe
Paladin daily 9: One Stands Alone
Paladin utility 10: Turn the Tide
ITEMS
Plate Armor, Adventurer's Kit, Short sword, Heavy Shield, Sacrificial Short sword +3, Warsheath Plate Armor +2, Cloak of the Cautious +2, Shortbow, Arrows (30), Bracers of the Perfect Shot (heroic tier), Delver's Light (heroic tier), Dwarven Greaves (heroic tier), Distance Shortbow +1
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Mazzy, level 10
Halfling, Paladin
Build: Protecting Paladin
Background: Amn
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 15, Con 13, Dex 16, Int 10, Wis 12, Cha 19.
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 13, Con 13, Dex 14, Int 10, Wis 12, Cha 15.
AC: 27 Fort: 20 Reflex: 23 Will: 22
HP: 87 Surges: 11 Surge Value: 21
TRAINED SKILLS
Religion +10, Insight +11, Heal +11, Diplomacy +14, Intimidate +14
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +6, Arcana +5, Bluff +9, Dungeoneering +6, Endurance +2, History +5, Nature +6, Perception +6, Stealth +4, Streetwise +10, Thievery +7, Athletics +3
FEATS
Level 1: Melee Training (Charisma)
Level 2: Healing Hands
Level 4: Toughness
Level 6: Lost in the Crowd
Level 8: Inspiring Leader
Level 10: Weapon Proficiency (Shortbow)
POWERS
Paladin at-will 1: Enfeebling Strike
Paladin at-will 1: Bolstering Strike
Paladin encounter 1: Shielding Smite
Paladin daily 1: Radiant Delirium
Paladin utility 2: Astral Speech
Paladin encounter 3: Righteous Smite
Paladin daily 5: Sign of Vulnerability
Paladin utility 6: Wrath of the Gods
Paladin encounter 7: Beckon Foe
Paladin daily 9: One Stands Alone
Paladin utility 10: Turn the Tide
ITEMS
Plate Armor, Adventurer's Kit, Short sword, Heavy Shield, Sacrificial Short sword +3, Warsheath Plate Armor +2, Cloak of the Cautious +2, Shortbow, Arrows (30), Bracers of the Perfect Shot (heroic tier), Delver's Light (heroic tier), Dwarven Greaves (heroic tier), Distance Shortbow +1
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Does anybody have an idea if the Divine Power stuff will be in the next character builder update or if we have to wait another month?
I still like the Warlord Mazzy and the Fighter/Cleric Anomen better.;) Maybe it's just that I have trouble picturing Mazzy singing.:D
Does anybody have an idea if the Divine Power stuff will be in the next character builder update or if we have to wait another month?
I'm certainly a fan of my Ranger|Warlord hybrid version of Mazzy, but the Bard version does quite a few of the same things rather well. I did try to avoid powers that involved singing as much as possible, but I wasn't entirely successful. Give me an archer warlord and I'd use it instantly for her, and I don't think it's actually an unresonable concept. One of the nations in my homebrew has a military which relies heavily on mounted archery, and it's pretty hard to make a character with that sort of background.
Divine Power should be in the August CB. It's supposed to come out with the updates from the previous month which means all July material would be in August, though that didn't happen with the Psion.
I'm wondering, is there any interest in versions of the main adversaries made with the Monster Builder beta? Sarevok as an Elite Soldier (or Brute?), Bodhi a Lurker, Irenicus a Controller.
I'm certainly a fan of my Ranger|Warlord hybrid version of Mazzy, but the Bard version does quite a few of the same things rather well. I did try to avoid powers that involved singing as much as possible, but I wasn't entirely successful. Give me an archer warlord and I'd use it instantly for her, and I don't think it's actually an unresonable concept. One of the nations in my homebrew has a military which relies heavily on mounted archery, and it's pretty hard to make a character with that sort of background.
There are people who talk about Arcane Power 2, maybe we could get a ranged warlord in Martial Power 2?
Divine Power should be in the August CB. It's supposed to come out with the updates from the previous month which means all July material would be in August, though that didn't happen with the Psion.
Great, then the upgrading to epic can go on. By the way I have a question: The non-romanced storyline for Viconia ( http://www.gamebanshee.com/baldursgateii/npcs/images/viconiaending.jpg )mentions that in the end she got trouble with Shar and helped Drizzt Do'Urden to stop a Zhentarim plot against Suldanessalar. What would be her next god after Shar? And would Dark Wanderer maybe be a good epic destiny for her? She could have multiclassed into rogue while alone on the surface to acquire some necessary skills, and Dark Wanderer fits the "going and never be seen again" part.
I'm wondering, is there any interest in versions of the main adversaries made with the Monster Builder beta? Sarevok as an Elite Soldier (or Brute?), Bodhi a Lurker, Irenicus a Controller.
Where possible I would build them as characters and then transform them into elites (funny, if you think about it none of the final bosses of Baldur's Gate was a solo. Not even Amelyssan with access to the essence of Bhaal).
Bohdi would be a rogue with the Vampire Lord template, Irenicus an elite wizard and Sarevok... Sarevok.;) What would Amelyssan be?
But I'm sure there are also those who would prefer them with the simpler monster rules.
hmmm lets see, I'd have to ask of whom Id have a choice of.
if she got in trouble with Shar, how about Selune??
and dare you going to use the 1 step stuff or whatever 4e uses....
which means nuetral or unaligned,
which most likely throws out Selune, leaves Tempus, Silvanus, .... depends on how most would view her after that alignment wise
As for new ultimate patron deity. Uh. She's NE. She rejected Shar and Lloth, most expected candidates. She helped Drizzt and Ellesime against the Zhentarim. So it would be... maybe Selvetarm? Or Beshaba? Or... uh, my ideas just ended.
I'm unsure about Tempus and Silvanus because of their domains, Viconia was more into politics than warfare and nature... I guess I have to make a list of all gods that were NG, LN, N and CN.:D
Yeah, neutral. I know it all. So. It still doesn't have NG patron or Selune anywhere. Opposing the Zhents and Knights of the Shield doesn't equal 'being good'. Even 'being neutral'.
That depends on the reasons. Unfortunately we have no idea why Viconia did it, but I don't assume that she felt threatened by what would happen to Calimport or Suldanessalar.
I think she'd want a deity who was serious rather than a trickster type, and one who is powerful both for protection from Shar and Lolth and because of her attitude to power. There are some who fit this, but I think Kelemvor might be a good choice. He's powerful, serious, not too good for her tastes, not prejudiced against Drow.
Othewise, there are a few other choices that I think are reasonably plausible. Hoar, perhaps, as god of revenge. Waukeen, possibly. Perhaps Tymora or Beshaba (Tyche would be a better choice, in many ways).
And I agree that Dark Wanderer looks like a good choice.
Viconia could quite plausibly be Unaligned in 4e terms,certainly after the course of Baldurs' Gate. It does seem a little harder to pick a deity for her. I don't think any of the "nature" dieties are suitable, or the more warlike ones. And most of the racial pantheons are also out, certainly including the Drow one and even the Seldarine (although I read a fanfic once where the author turned her into a cleric of Hanali Celanil, fairly plausibly).
I think she'd want a deity who was serious rather than a trickster type, and one who is powerful both for protection from Shar and Lolth and because of her attitude to power. There are some who fit this, but I think Kelemvor might be a good choice. He's powerful, serious, not too good for her tastes, not prejudiced against Drow.
Othewise, there are a few other choices that I think are reasonably plausible. Hoar, perhaps, as god of revenge. Waukeen, possibly. Perhaps Tymora or Beshaba (Tyche would be a better choice, in many ways).
The gods sound good, especially Kelemvor. I excluded Tymora because she's chaotic good and Beshaba because the guy who tried to burn her at the beginning of BG2 was a cleric of Beshaba. For Waukeen I had to look up a timeline, because during BG2 it seems she was still a prisoner in the Abyss. The idea with Hanali Celanil sounds interesting too, do you have a link to that?
there is always the FEy Jester Eravan.
can never spell his name....
he'd be unaligned I think.
The gods sound good, especially Kelemvor. I excluded Tymora because she's chaotic good and Beshaba because the guy who tried to burn her at the beginning of BG2 was a cleric of Beshaba. For Waukeen I had to look up a timeline, because during BG2 it seems she was still a prisoner in the Abyss. The idea with Hanali Celanil sounds interesting too, do you have a link to that?
The best I can do for a link is this. That's only part of the story, obviously since the first entry is Chapter 33, but there were later parts too which included the chapters where Viconia began worshipping Hanali. I'm not sure I could find the earlier chapters over there, given the way the forums are arranged and that they date back to 2003, but if you want to read them I have them saved to a CD somewhere and if I can find which one could send them to an email address - PM me if so. Sadly it never got finished, as far as I'm aware.
Yes, Waukeen was still in the abyss. I played the module where you rescue her, For Duty and Deity. The main reason I suggested her is a memory of something Viconia says when you enter one of the temples of Waukeen, something about it being how a temple should look, altthough that may be from a mod. But I could imagine a Viconia who rejects Shar switching to a powerful, neutral, human goddess such as Waukeen.
Hanali was confirmed to be an aspect of Sune.
there is always the FEy Jester Eravan.
can never spell his name....
he'd be unaligned I think.
Erevan Ilesere, who I don't need to look up after one memorable character who really annoyed my rather serious human Wizard for a year or two. While I can see him taking Viconia, for the amusement if nothing else, I think she's rather too serious for it to work.
Erevan Ilesere, who I don't need to look up after one memorable character who really annoyed my rather serious human Wizard for a year or two. While I can see him taking Viconia, for the amusement if nothing else, I think she's rather too serious for it to work.
I don't see Vic with Erevan. She's not a prankster like Jan or Coran.
I excluded Tymora because she's chaotic good and Beshaba because the guy who tried to burn her at the beginning of BG2 was a cleric of Beshaba.
Beshaba is my favourite as for Vic's ultimate deity. It would be really nice and ironic. Really, I know it, so, the Maiden of Misfortune would like it and I think Vic too.
Hanali was confirmed to be an aspect of Sune.
To me that only means that clerics of Hanali have the same options as those of Sune.:D
there is always the FEy Jester Eravan.
can never spell his name....
he'd be unaligned I think.
He's an unaligned exarch, but Viconia never was a prankster, she was good at insulting others, but that's it.:D
The best I can do for a link is this. That's only part of the story, obviously since the first entry is Chapter 33, but there were later parts too which included the chapters where Viconia began worshipping Hanali. I'm not sure I could find the earlier chapters over there, given the way the forums are arranged and that they date back to 2003, but if you want to read them I have them saved to a CD somewhere and if I can find which one could send them to an email address - PM me if so. Sadly it never got finished, as far as I'm aware.
That would be great, I'm going to send you a PM.
From what I read so far it seems like a good alternative for a romanced Viconia (especially if the main character is an elf, otherwise I'm unsure how she could have learned of her).Yes, Waukeen was still in the abyss. I played the module where you rescue her, For Duty and Deity. The main reason I suggested her is a memory of something Viconia says when you enter one of the temples of Waukeen, something about it being how a temple should look, altthough that may be from a mod. But I could imagine a Viconia who rejects Shar switching to a powerful, neutral, human goddess such as Waukeen.
It's possible that you're right, I could have heard something similar from her, but that was a long, long time ago. Unfortunately the last time I was there I had a mod installed that somehow kept Viconia from speaking.
But I still have problems to see Viconia as a cleric of the merchant's friend.;)Beshaba is my favourite as for Vic's ultimate deity. It would be really nice and ironic. Really, I know it, so, the Maiden of Misfortune would like it and I think Vic too.
It would be ironic, but I think Viconia had enough of bad luck for a few (elven) lifetimes. :D
That would be great, I'm going to send you a PM.
Except that elves cant romance Viconia. "Legally" anyway.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! I'm going to shoot myself! That must've been a bug, and now I reinstalled BG2 five times because I thought that it's a bug that Viconia doesn't talk to me anymore.......
O_O You're kidding me, right? The romance always worked for me up to the point where she argued with Aerie over me and I took Aerie's side.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! I'm going to shoot myself! That must've been a bug, and now I reinstalled BG2 five times because I thought that it's a bug that Viconia doesn't talk to me anymore.......
You can romance her as an elf anyway, just use shadowkeeper to change the Viconiamatch variable to 1. But some conversations will be awkward since the romance presumes that you are a half-orc/half-elf/human.
She talks about how she appreciates the drive of [your race] since elves and drow are so lazy due to their long lifespans.
Were you playing as an elf and she actually started conversing with you (as in the romance)? Because if the viconiamatch is 0 or nonexistant (as it should be if you're an elf for example) she wont start the romance track at all.
Yoshimo:
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Yoshimo, level 17
Human, Ranger, Ruthless Punisher
Build: Archer Ranger
Fighting Style: Archer Fighting Style
Background: Occupation - Bounty Hunter (+2 to Stealth)
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 18, Con 15, Dex 20, Int 14, Wis 12, Cha 11.
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 15, Con 14, Dex 14, Int 13, Wis 10, Cha 10.
AC: 31 Fort: 28 Reflex: 29 Will: 24
HP: 107 Surges: 8 Surge Value: 26
TRAINED SKILLS
Thievery +18, Heal +14, Dungeoneering +14, Endurance +15, Stealth +20, Perception +16, Athletics +17, Streetwise +13
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +13, Arcana +10, Bluff +8, Diplomacy +8, History +10, Insight +9, Intimidate +8, Nature +9, Religion +10
FEATS
Human: Sneak of Shadows
Level 1: Action Surge
Level 2: Skill Training (Streetwise)
Level 4: Improved Initiative
Level 6: Alertness
Level 8: Blade Opportunist
Level 10: Lethal Hunter
Level 11: Armor Specialization (Hide)
Level 12: Secret Stride
Level 14: Bleeding Precision
Level 16: Danger Sense
POWERS
Bonus At-Will Power: Hunter's Teamwork
Ranger at-will 1: Hit and Run
Ranger at-will 1: Twin Strike
Ranger encounter 1: Fox's Cunning
Ranger daily 1: Hunter's Bear Trap
Ranger utility 2: Unbalancing Parry
Ranger encounter 3: Disruptive Strike
Ranger daily 5: Splintering Shot
Ranger utility 6: Battle Runner
Ranger encounter 7: Hawk's Talon
Ranger daily 9: Ranger's Recovery
Ranger utility 10: Shed the Mark
Ranger encounter 13: Bloodlust Strike (replaces Fox's Cunning)
Ranger daily 15: Arterial Strike (replaces Hunter's Bear Trap)
Ranger utility 16: Evade the Blow
Ranger encounter 17: Pounding Barrage (replaces Disruptive Strike)
ITEMS
Hide Armor, Adventurer's Kit, Longbow, Longsword (2), Scimitar, Arrows (30), Boots of Spider Climbing (heroic tier), Potion of Healing (heroic tier) (5), Climbing Claws (heroic tier), Scalebane Longbow +4, Hide Armor of Resistance +4, Amulet of Protection +4, Wounding Scimitar +3, Bracers of the Perfect Shot (paragon tier), Shielding Girdle (heroic tier)
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Yoshimo in Paragon Tier. He has the Ruthless Punisher PP which seems to me ideal for a bounty hunter character, especially for one with his background. I selected powers that mostly don’t have a two-weapon requirement, but his Climbing Claws can be used with the Scimitar for two-weapon fighting. I stopped at 17th level, which might be just a little too high considering the point at which he leaves the party.
Yoshimo, level 17
Human, Ranger, Ruthless Punisher
Build: Archer Ranger
Fighting Style: Archer Fighting Style
Background: Occupation - Bounty Hunter (+2 to Stealth)
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 18, Con 15, Dex 20, Int 14, Wis 12, Cha 11.
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 15, Con 14, Dex 14, Int 13, Wis 10, Cha 10.
AC: 31 Fort: 28 Reflex: 29 Will: 24
HP: 107 Surges: 8 Surge Value: 26
TRAINED SKILLS
Thievery +18, Heal +14, Dungeoneering +14, Endurance +15, Stealth +20, Perception +16, Athletics +17, Streetwise +13
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +13, Arcana +10, Bluff +8, Diplomacy +8, History +10, Insight +9, Intimidate +8, Nature +9, Religion +10
FEATS
Human: Sneak of Shadows
Level 1: Action Surge
Level 2: Skill Training (Streetwise)
Level 4: Improved Initiative
Level 6: Alertness
Level 8: Blade Opportunist
Level 10: Lethal Hunter
Level 11: Armor Specialization (Hide)
Level 12: Secret Stride
Level 14: Bleeding Precision
Level 16: Danger Sense
POWERS
Bonus At-Will Power: Hunter's Teamwork
Ranger at-will 1: Hit and Run
Ranger at-will 1: Twin Strike
Ranger encounter 1: Fox's Cunning
Ranger daily 1: Hunter's Bear Trap
Ranger utility 2: Unbalancing Parry
Ranger encounter 3: Disruptive Strike
Ranger daily 5: Splintering Shot
Ranger utility 6: Battle Runner
Ranger encounter 7: Hawk's Talon
Ranger daily 9: Ranger's Recovery
Ranger utility 10: Shed the Mark
Ranger encounter 13: Bloodlust Strike (replaces Fox's Cunning)
Ranger daily 15: Arterial Strike (replaces Hunter's Bear Trap)
Ranger utility 16: Evade the Blow
Ranger encounter 17: Pounding Barrage (replaces Disruptive Strike)
ITEMS
Hide Armor, Adventurer's Kit, Longbow, Longsword (2), Scimitar, Arrows (30), Boots of Spider Climbing (heroic tier), Potion of Healing (heroic tier) (5), Climbing Claws (heroic tier), Scalebane Longbow +4, Hide Armor of Resistance +4, Amulet of Protection +4, Wounding Scimitar +3, Bracers of the Perfect Shot (paragon tier), Shielding Girdle (heroic tier)
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Yoshimo in Paragon Tier. He has the Ruthless Punisher PP which seems to me ideal for a bounty hunter character, especially for one with his background. I selected powers that mostly don’t have a two-weapon requirement, but his Climbing Claws can be used with the Scimitar for two-weapon fighting. I stopped at 17th level, which might be just a little too high considering the point at which he leaves the party.
You can romance her as an elf anyway, just use shadowkeeper to change the Viconiamatch variable to 1. But some conversations will be awkward since the romance presumes that you are a half-orc/half-elf/human.
She talks about how she appreciates the drive of [your race] since elves and drow are so lazy due to their long lifespans.
Yes, there's also a mod for that, I don't like messing around with global variables.
Were you playing as an elf and she actually started conversing with you (as in the romance)? Because if the viconiamatch is 0 or nonexistant (as it should be if you're an elf for example) she wont start the romance track at all.
Either it was a bug, or my very first character, a human paladin... Even though I'm pretty sure that I stopped playing him after I messed up every single paladin quest due to a lack of understanding of the system and bugs.:D
@ Bluenose
Great paragon versions. And it's nice to see Deekin. Should we extend the thread to contain all Bioware games?
I believe I have an Aribeth somewhere.I made an epic version of Haer'Dalis as a tempest, he won't get anything out of Divine Power. The ritual list is a bit short.:D
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Haer'Dalis, level 30
Tiefling, Fighter, Doomguard Marauder, Keybearer
Build: Tempest Fighter
Fighter Talents: Tempest Technique
Background: Occupation - Entertainer (Bluff class skill)
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 26, Con 14, Dex 21, Int 18, Wis 16, Cha 20.
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 18, Con 9, Dex 17, Int 14, Wis 14, Cha 15.
AC: 44 Fort: 43 Reflex: 41 Will: 38
HP: 203 Surges: 11 Surge Value: 50
TRAINED SKILLS
Athletics +33, Streetwise +27, Bluff +27, Insight +23, Arcana +26
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +25, Diplomacy +20, Dungeoneering +20, Endurance +16, Heal +18, History +21, Intimidate +20, Nature +20, Perception +18, Religion +21, Stealth +21, Thievery +19
FEATS
Bardic Ritualist: Ritual Caster
Level 1: Bardic Dilettante
Level 2: Bardic Ritualist
Level 4: Infernal Clamor
Level 6: Bardic Knowledge
Level 8: Acolyte Power
Level 10: Two-Weapon Fighting
Level 11: Agile Tempest
Level 12: Disheartening Presence
Level 14: Reckless Attacker
Level 16: Two-Weapon Ambush
Level 18: Two-Weapon Opening
Level 20: Improved Initiative
Level 21: Rending Tempest
Level 22: Light Blade Mastery
Level 24: Two-Weapon Flurry
Level 26: Robust Defenses
Level 28: Chainmail Agility
Level 30: Feign Injury
POWERS
Fighter at-will 1: Cleave
Fighter at-will 1: Dual Strike
Fighter encounter 1: Distracting Spate
Fighter daily 1: Tempest Dance
Fighter utility 2: Defensive Stance
Fighter encounter 3: Advance Lunge
Fighter daily 5: Nimble Bladestorm
Fighter utility 6: Battle Awareness
Fighter encounter 7: Twofold Torment
Fighter daily 9: Thicket of Blades
Fighter utility 10: Into the Fray (retrained to Illuminating Stars at Acolyte Power)
Fighter encounter 13: Dance of Blades (replaces Distracting Spate)
Fighter daily 15: Carve Initials (replaces Tempest Dance)
Fighter utility 16: Surprise Step
Fighter encounter 17: Vorpal Tornado (replaces Advance Lunge)
Fighter daily 19: Devastation's Wake (replaces Nimble Bladestorm)
Fighter utility 22: Inspired Resurgence
Fighter encounter 23: Weaponmaster's Lure (replaces Twofold Torment)
Fighter daily 25: Transfixing Provocation (replaces Thicket of Blades)
Fighter encounter 27: Stabbing Torrent (replaces Dance of Blades)
Fighter daily 29: Blade Storm (replaces Carve Initials)
ITEMS
Adventurer's Kit, Ritual Book, Poisoned Short sword +6, Mordant Short sword +6, Agile Spiritmail +6, Cloak of Elemental Evolution +6, Ioun Stone of Regeneration (epic tier), Gauntlets of the Blood War (epic tier), Dynamic Belt (epic tier), Ring of Dimensional Escape (paragon tier), Boots of Quickness (paragon tier), Luckbender Gloves (paragon tier)
RITUALS
Arcane Mark, Glib Limerick, Traveler's Chant, Lullaby, Anthem of Unity
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Haer'Dalis, level 30
Tiefling, Fighter, Doomguard Marauder, Keybearer
Build: Tempest Fighter
Fighter Talents: Tempest Technique
Background: Occupation - Entertainer (Bluff class skill)
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 26, Con 14, Dex 21, Int 18, Wis 16, Cha 20.
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 18, Con 9, Dex 17, Int 14, Wis 14, Cha 15.
AC: 44 Fort: 43 Reflex: 41 Will: 38
HP: 203 Surges: 11 Surge Value: 50
TRAINED SKILLS
Athletics +33, Streetwise +27, Bluff +27, Insight +23, Arcana +26
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +25, Diplomacy +20, Dungeoneering +20, Endurance +16, Heal +18, History +21, Intimidate +20, Nature +20, Perception +18, Religion +21, Stealth +21, Thievery +19
FEATS
Bardic Ritualist: Ritual Caster
Level 1: Bardic Dilettante
Level 2: Bardic Ritualist
Level 4: Infernal Clamor
Level 6: Bardic Knowledge
Level 8: Acolyte Power
Level 10: Two-Weapon Fighting
Level 11: Agile Tempest
Level 12: Disheartening Presence
Level 14: Reckless Attacker
Level 16: Two-Weapon Ambush
Level 18: Two-Weapon Opening
Level 20: Improved Initiative
Level 21: Rending Tempest
Level 22: Light Blade Mastery
Level 24: Two-Weapon Flurry
Level 26: Robust Defenses
Level 28: Chainmail Agility
Level 30: Feign Injury
POWERS
Fighter at-will 1: Cleave
Fighter at-will 1: Dual Strike
Fighter encounter 1: Distracting Spate
Fighter daily 1: Tempest Dance
Fighter utility 2: Defensive Stance
Fighter encounter 3: Advance Lunge
Fighter daily 5: Nimble Bladestorm
Fighter utility 6: Battle Awareness
Fighter encounter 7: Twofold Torment
Fighter daily 9: Thicket of Blades
Fighter utility 10: Into the Fray (retrained to Illuminating Stars at Acolyte Power)
Fighter encounter 13: Dance of Blades (replaces Distracting Spate)
Fighter daily 15: Carve Initials (replaces Tempest Dance)
Fighter utility 16: Surprise Step
Fighter encounter 17: Vorpal Tornado (replaces Advance Lunge)
Fighter daily 19: Devastation's Wake (replaces Nimble Bladestorm)
Fighter utility 22: Inspired Resurgence
Fighter encounter 23: Weaponmaster's Lure (replaces Twofold Torment)
Fighter daily 25: Transfixing Provocation (replaces Thicket of Blades)
Fighter encounter 27: Stabbing Torrent (replaces Dance of Blades)
Fighter daily 29: Blade Storm (replaces Carve Initials)
ITEMS
Adventurer's Kit, Ritual Book, Poisoned Short sword +6, Mordant Short sword +6, Agile Spiritmail +6, Cloak of Elemental Evolution +6, Ioun Stone of Regeneration (epic tier), Gauntlets of the Blood War (epic tier), Dynamic Belt (epic tier), Ring of Dimensional Escape (paragon tier), Boots of Quickness (paragon tier), Luckbender Gloves (paragon tier)
RITUALS
Arcane Mark, Glib Limerick, Traveler's Chant, Lullaby, Anthem of Unity
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Deekin wants to try out his new Vicious Mockery power. "You is very dull grey dragon, not nice and shiny red like Deekin!" :D
@ Bluenose
Great paragon versions. And it's nice to see Deekin. Should we extend the thread to contain all Bioware games?
I made an epic version of Haer'Dalis as a tempest, he won't get anything out of Divine Power. The ritual list is a bit short.:D
While I've come to the conclusion that a Bard is the best class to represent Haer'Dalis despite my earlier advocacy of the bravura Warlord, your Tempest also looks pretty good. It's interesting how there seem to be a lot of different ways to convert some characters, and only a few for others. Though that probably comes down to some being pretty obvious - Edwin, for instance - and some being marginal cases for several classes. It reminds me of Venn diagrams from my school maths lessons.
Actually, I think it would be nice to add characters from all the Bioware (and Obsidian, with NWN2?) games. I've had a few ideas for BG1 characters already, even made myself one or two. On the other hand, would another thread be better rather than confuse this one?
Deekin wants to try out his new Vicious Mockery power. "You is very dull grey dragon, not nice and shiny red like Deekin!" :D
but but but I have copies of all Deekins books!!!!!
and further more, you cant see my scales do to Im a force dragon....
yeah so sue me, the avatars were to few and far between what I'd prefer art wise, and importing them requires editing them........
While I've come to the conclusion that a Bard is the best class to represent Haer'Dalis despite my earlier advocacy of the bravura Warlord, your Tempest also looks pretty good. It's interesting how there seem to be a lot of different ways to convert some characters, and only a few for others. Though that probably comes down to some being pretty obvious - Edwin, for instance - and some being marginal cases for several classes. It reminds me of Venn diagrams from my school maths lessons.
I guess it depends on the way you look at a character. I always look at the fighting style first and then at the background. Haer'Dalis always was the guy with the two short swords and offensive/defensive spin. His bard song didn't get better with level increases so that was defining for me. Rangers can be good with two weapons, but tempest fighters are better with short swords. Additionally it made Doomguard an option for him so that was win-win.
With Jaheira I made a honest mistake. For me she was always the girl with heavy armor and a mean staff that stood beside my main character and Minsk in the front line and only used magic to patch others up. I completely forgot that she could shapechange at all. O_o I'll have to correct that.:D
Actually, I think it would be nice to add characters from all the Bioware (and Obsidian, with NWN2?) games. I've had a few ideas for BG1 characters already, even made myself one or two. On the other hand, would another thread be better rather than confuse this one?
I'm no big fan of NWN 2 but I certainly won't exclude anything.;) I guess we can use this thread, otherwise we have four or five threads that will vanish separately. I guess I should start next week to make a list with all characters so far in the first post. Is it possible to change the title of the thread?
but but but I have copies of all Deekins books!!!!!
"What!! You has bought Deekins books!! Deekin is very sorry, is terrible error. When he see invisible enemy sneaking up on very handsome dragon he cast spell without thinking about area of effect. He use Majestic Word, heal large and beautiful dragon no problem."
I guess it depends on the way you look at a character. I always look at the fighting style first and then at the background. Haer'Dalis always was the guy with the two short swords and offensive/defensive spin. His bard song didn't get better with level increases so that was defining for me. Rangers can be good with two weapons, but tempest fighters are better with short swords. Additionally it made Doomguard an option for him so that was win-win.
With Jaheira I made a honest mistake. For me she was always the girl with heavy armor and a mean staff that stood beside my main character and Minsk in the front line and only used magic to patch others up. I completely forgot that she could shapechange at all. O_o I'll have to correct that.:D
I prefer a Haer'Dalis who isn't as sturdy as a fighter, with a certain amount of show-off in the style, which fits the bard class as I see it. But honestly he's a bit of an odd case in 2e terms, a dual-wielding bard with the blade kit being not exactly mainstream.
Jaheira was one of my front line fighters too, though usually with a scimitar and shield and protected by ironskin. But people have used her as an attack caster, with Insect Plague, Call Lightning, and various Summons while she stays in the back and slings stones. It seems odd to me because that's not what I do, but it is possible.
I'm no big fan of NWN 2 but I certainly won't exclude anything.;) I guess we can use this thread, otherwise we have four or five threads that will vanish separately. I guess I should start next week to make a list with all characters so far in the first post. Is it possible to change the title of the thread?
I think you can do so by going to the first post in the thread and clicking edit on that, but don't quote me on that.
Aerie:
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Aerie, level 20
Elf, Invoker, Flame of Hope
Build: Preserving Invoker
Divine Covenant: Covenant of Preservation
Birth - Among Another Race: Among Another Race (Gnome)
Background: Birth - Among Another Race (Among Another Race (Gnome))
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 11, Con 13, Dex 19, Int 19, Wis 23, Cha 15.
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 10, Con 10, Dex 16, Int 16, Wis 16, Cha 14.
AC: 29 Fort: 26 Reflex: 29 Will: 31
HP: 99 Surges: 7 Surge Value: 24
TRAINED SKILLS
Religion +19, Diplomacy +17, Insight +21, Arcana +21, Heal +23
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +14, Bluff +12, Dungeoneering +16, Endurance +13, History +14, Intimidate +12, Nature +18, Perception +18, Stealth +14, Streetwise +12, Thievery +14, Athletics +10
FEATS
Invoker: Ritual Caster
Level 1: Skill Training (Heal)
Level 2: Combat Medic
Level 4: Insightful Preservation
Level 6: Resonating Covenant
Level 8: Astral Fire (retrained to Armored by Faith at Level 15)
Level 10: Invoker Defense
Level 11: Invoker's Blaze
Level 12: Preserver's Vengeance
Level 14: Distant Advantage
Level 16: Coordinated Explosion
Level 18: Implement Expertise (staff)
Level 20: Darkfoe
POWERS
Invoker at-will 1: Grasping Shards
Invoker at-will 1: Avenging Light
Invoker encounter 1: Blades of Astral Fire
Invoker daily 1: Purging Flame
Invoker utility 2: Wall of Light
Invoker encounter 3: Sun Hammer
Invoker daily 5: Searing Orb
Invoker utility 6: Shared Endurance
Invoker encounter 7: Thunderbolt of the Heavens
Invoker daily 9: Visions of Paradise
Invoker utility 10: Divine Renewal
Invoker encounter 13: Winds of Celestia (replaces Blades of Astral Fire)
Invoker daily 15: God Hammer (replaces Purging Flame)
Invoker utility 16: Pennant of Heaven's Armies
Invoker encounter 17: Glyph of Three Blades (replaces Sun Hammer)
Invoker daily 19: Tomb of Magrym (replaces Searing Orb)
ITEMS
Ritual Book, Adventurer's Kit, Implement, Rod, Cloth Armor (Basic Clothing), Implement, Staff, Torc of Fortune +4, Magic Staff +5, Bracers of Wound Closure (paragon tier), Ring of Invigoration (paragon tier), Healer's Sash (paragon tier), Fleetrunner Boots (paragon tier), Skybound Feyweave Armor +4, Magic Mace +3
RITUALS
Hand of Fate, Brew Potion, Fastidiousness, Preservation, Fool's Gold, Delay Affliction, Transfer Enchantment, Ancestral Whispers, Sending, Wizard's Escape, Raise Dead, Passwall, Planar Sending, Adjure
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Aerie is capable of a lot of healing with a high skill, and has rituals to support this including Raise Dead. She’s also more than capable of making a group of enemies regret standing close together, especially if they’re vulnerable to Radiant damage. While I’m not absolutely convinced by Flame of Hope as her PP, it’s an effective choice and not unreasonable.
Aerie, level 20
Elf, Invoker, Flame of Hope
Build: Preserving Invoker
Divine Covenant: Covenant of Preservation
Birth - Among Another Race: Among Another Race (Gnome)
Background: Birth - Among Another Race (Among Another Race (Gnome))
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 11, Con 13, Dex 19, Int 19, Wis 23, Cha 15.
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 10, Con 10, Dex 16, Int 16, Wis 16, Cha 14.
AC: 29 Fort: 26 Reflex: 29 Will: 31
HP: 99 Surges: 7 Surge Value: 24
TRAINED SKILLS
Religion +19, Diplomacy +17, Insight +21, Arcana +21, Heal +23
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +14, Bluff +12, Dungeoneering +16, Endurance +13, History +14, Intimidate +12, Nature +18, Perception +18, Stealth +14, Streetwise +12, Thievery +14, Athletics +10
FEATS
Invoker: Ritual Caster
Level 1: Skill Training (Heal)
Level 2: Combat Medic
Level 4: Insightful Preservation
Level 6: Resonating Covenant
Level 8: Astral Fire (retrained to Armored by Faith at Level 15)
Level 10: Invoker Defense
Level 11: Invoker's Blaze
Level 12: Preserver's Vengeance
Level 14: Distant Advantage
Level 16: Coordinated Explosion
Level 18: Implement Expertise (staff)
Level 20: Darkfoe
POWERS
Invoker at-will 1: Grasping Shards
Invoker at-will 1: Avenging Light
Invoker encounter 1: Blades of Astral Fire
Invoker daily 1: Purging Flame
Invoker utility 2: Wall of Light
Invoker encounter 3: Sun Hammer
Invoker daily 5: Searing Orb
Invoker utility 6: Shared Endurance
Invoker encounter 7: Thunderbolt of the Heavens
Invoker daily 9: Visions of Paradise
Invoker utility 10: Divine Renewal
Invoker encounter 13: Winds of Celestia (replaces Blades of Astral Fire)
Invoker daily 15: God Hammer (replaces Purging Flame)
Invoker utility 16: Pennant of Heaven's Armies
Invoker encounter 17: Glyph of Three Blades (replaces Sun Hammer)
Invoker daily 19: Tomb of Magrym (replaces Searing Orb)
ITEMS
Ritual Book, Adventurer's Kit, Implement, Rod, Cloth Armor (Basic Clothing), Implement, Staff, Torc of Fortune +4, Magic Staff +5, Bracers of Wound Closure (paragon tier), Ring of Invigoration (paragon tier), Healer's Sash (paragon tier), Fleetrunner Boots (paragon tier), Skybound Feyweave Armor +4, Magic Mace +3
RITUALS
Hand of Fate, Brew Potion, Fastidiousness, Preservation, Fool's Gold, Delay Affliction, Transfer Enchantment, Ancestral Whispers, Sending, Wizard's Escape, Raise Dead, Passwall, Planar Sending, Adjure
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Aerie is capable of a lot of healing with a high skill, and has rituals to support this including Raise Dead. She’s also more than capable of making a group of enemies regret standing close together, especially if they’re vulnerable to Radiant damage. While I’m not absolutely convinced by Flame of Hope as her PP, it’s an effective choice and not unreasonable.
Again nice paragon versions and a good Keldorn.
I tried today to make an epic Imoen and ran into a weaponry problem. I always gave her the Short Bow of Gesen, but rogues can't use bows and wizards can't take them as implements. Converting it to a crossbow solves only half of the problems. The at-will magic missile has made the bow obsolete, but for me it was always part of her style to stand back together with Aerie. And swinging a sword to send out magic missiles is less cool than having a bow that shoots lightning....I'll try to work around that starting Wednesday.:D
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Imoen, level 11
Human, Ranger|Rogue, Paragon Multiclassing
Hybrid Ranger: Hybrid Ranger Reflex
Hybrid Talent: Rogue Tactics
Rogue Tactics: Artful Dodger
Background: Baldur's Gate
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 10, Con 17, Dex 21, Int 21, Wis 13, Cha 17.
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 9, Con 16, Dex 18, Int 17, Wis 11, Cha 16.
AC: 25 Fort: 21 Reflex: 25 Will: 21
HP: 79 Surges: 9 Surge Value: 19
TRAINED SKILLS
Arcana +15, Acrobatics +15, Perception +11, Stealth +15, Insight +11, Streetwise +13, Thievery +15, Bluff +13, Nature +11
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Diplomacy +8, Dungeoneering +6, Endurance +8, Heal +6, History +10, Intimidate +8, Religion +10, Athletics +5
FEATS
Learned Spellcaster: Ritual Caster
Human: Arcane Initiate
Level 1: Improved Initiative
Level 2: Phantom Echoes
Level 4: Novice Power
Level 6: Hybrid Talent
Level 8: Acolyte Power
Level 10: Adept Power
Level 11: Learned Spellcaster
POWERS
Arcane Initiate: Chilling Cloud
Bonus At-Will Power: Sly Flourish
Hybrid Ranger at-will 1: Nimble Strike
Hybrid Rogue at-will 1: Piercing Strike (retrained to Magic Missile at Paragon Multiclassing)
Paragon Multiclassing: Enemies Abound
Hybrid encounter 1: Positioning Strike (retrained to Burning Hands at Novice Power)
Hybrid daily 1: Precise Incision (retrained to Acid Arrow at Adept Power)
Hybrid utility 2: Fleeting Ghost
Hybrid encounter 3: Thwarting Shot
Hybrid daily 5: Splintering Shot
Hybrid utility 6: Evade Ambush
Hybrid encounter 7: Slice Free
Hybrid daily 9: Swift Strike
Hybrid utility 10: Expeditious Stride (retrained to Invisibility at Acolyte Power)
ITEMS
Magic Leather Armor +3, Wraithblade Short sword +2, Magic Orb +3, Cloak of Distortion +2, Magic Shortbow +2
RITUALS
Amanuensis, Magic Mouth, Tenser's Floating Disk, Seek Rumor, Eye of Alarm, Tiny Lanterns, Detect Treasure
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Here's a couple of Jaheira options, one a Warden and the other a Druid, plus a paragon version of the Paladin Anomen I posted before - though I'm not really happy with him as a Paladin.
Jaheira – Warden/Druid
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Jaheira, level 20
Half-Elf, Warden, Keeper of the Hidden Flame
Build: Earth Warden
Guardian Might: Earthstrength
Background: Half-Elf - Outcast
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 20, Con 22, Dex 16, Int 11, Wis 15, Cha 16.
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 15, Con 15, Dex 15, Int 10, Wis 14, Cha 13.
AC: 35 Fort: 31 Reflex: 29 Will: 28
HP: 182 Surges: 15 Surge Value: 45
TRAINED SKILLS
Nature +17, Dungeoneering +17, Endurance +22, Perception +17, Heal +17
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +10, Arcana +10, Bluff +13, Diplomacy +15, History +10, Insight +14, Intimidate +13, Religion +10, Stealth +10, Streetwise +13, Thievery +10, Athletics +12
FEATS
Level 1: Toughness
Level 2: Crushing Earthstrength
Level 4: Improved Initiative
Level 6: Blade Opportunist
Level 8: Sudden Roots
Level 10: Skill Training (Heal)
Level 11: Initiate of the Old Faith
Level 12: Weapon Focus (Heavy Blade)
Level 14: Focused Expertise (Scimitar)
Level 16: Earthstrength Resolve
Level 18: Versatile Master
Level 20: Human Perseverance
POWERS
Dilettante: Thorn Whip
Initiate of the Old Faith: Grasping Claws
Warden at-will 1: Weight of Earth
Warden at-will 1: Strength of Stone
Warden encounter 1: Thunder Ram Assault
Warden daily 1: Form of Winter's Herald
Warden utility 2: Nature's Abundance
Warden encounter 3: Earthgrasp Strike
Warden daily 5: Hail of Thorns
Warden utility 6: Bear's Endurance
Warden encounter 7: Mountain Hammer
Warden daily 9: Form of the Stone Sentinel
Warden utility 10: Warding Vines
Warden encounter 13: Ponderous Strike (replaces Thunder Ram Assault)
Warden daily 15: Form of the Rowan Sentinel (replaces Form of Winter's Herald)
Warden utility 16: Cleansing Earth
Warden encounter 17: Call Forth the Harvest (replaces Earthgrasp Strike)
Warden daily 19: Thundering Bolts (replaces Hail of Thorns)
ITEMS
Hide Armor, Adventurer's Kit, Longsword, Heavy Shield, Scimitar, Sling, Sling Bullets (20), Assassinbane Hide Armor +4, Cloak of Survival +4, Magic Scimitar +5, Bracers of Mighty Striking (paragon tier), Ring of Protection (paragon tier), Steadfast Boots (heroic tier), Belt of Endurance (heroic tier)
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Warden Jaheira is good in melee and isn’t an awful caster against enemies. Fitting in Ritual Caster would help. This version is quite suitable for front-line fighting Jaheira, but rituals would be quite appropriate.
Jaheira, level 20
Half-Elf, Warden, Keeper of the Hidden Flame
Build: Earth Warden
Guardian Might: Earthstrength
Background: Half-Elf - Outcast
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 20, Con 22, Dex 16, Int 11, Wis 15, Cha 16.
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 15, Con 15, Dex 15, Int 10, Wis 14, Cha 13.
AC: 35 Fort: 31 Reflex: 29 Will: 28
HP: 182 Surges: 15 Surge Value: 45
TRAINED SKILLS
Nature +17, Dungeoneering +17, Endurance +22, Perception +17, Heal +17
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +10, Arcana +10, Bluff +13, Diplomacy +15, History +10, Insight +14, Intimidate +13, Religion +10, Stealth +10, Streetwise +13, Thievery +10, Athletics +12
FEATS
Level 1: Toughness
Level 2: Crushing Earthstrength
Level 4: Improved Initiative
Level 6: Blade Opportunist
Level 8: Sudden Roots
Level 10: Skill Training (Heal)
Level 11: Initiate of the Old Faith
Level 12: Weapon Focus (Heavy Blade)
Level 14: Focused Expertise (Scimitar)
Level 16: Earthstrength Resolve
Level 18: Versatile Master
Level 20: Human Perseverance
POWERS
Dilettante: Thorn Whip
Initiate of the Old Faith: Grasping Claws
Warden at-will 1: Weight of Earth
Warden at-will 1: Strength of Stone
Warden encounter 1: Thunder Ram Assault
Warden daily 1: Form of Winter's Herald
Warden utility 2: Nature's Abundance
Warden encounter 3: Earthgrasp Strike
Warden daily 5: Hail of Thorns
Warden utility 6: Bear's Endurance
Warden encounter 7: Mountain Hammer
Warden daily 9: Form of the Stone Sentinel
Warden utility 10: Warding Vines
Warden encounter 13: Ponderous Strike (replaces Thunder Ram Assault)
Warden daily 15: Form of the Rowan Sentinel (replaces Form of Winter's Herald)
Warden utility 16: Cleansing Earth
Warden encounter 17: Call Forth the Harvest (replaces Earthgrasp Strike)
Warden daily 19: Thundering Bolts (replaces Hail of Thorns)
ITEMS
Hide Armor, Adventurer's Kit, Longsword, Heavy Shield, Scimitar, Sling, Sling Bullets (20), Assassinbane Hide Armor +4, Cloak of Survival +4, Magic Scimitar +5, Bracers of Mighty Striking (paragon tier), Ring of Protection (paragon tier), Steadfast Boots (heroic tier), Belt of Endurance (heroic tier)
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Warden Jaheira is good in melee and isn’t an awful caster against enemies. Fitting in Ritual Caster would help. This version is quite suitable for front-line fighting Jaheira, but rituals would be quite appropriate.
All I can think about Imoen is, "That's a lot of trained skills!" Still, she looks really nice. I do think the lack of a shortbow armed Rogue is beginning to feel annoying. It is one of the things I'd like to see in future books. Though there are some nice bow options for the Bard now.
Well, the many trained skills come from the combination rogue/human and because ritual casting now depends on skills.
I hope we get a bow feat for rogues in Martial Power 2, and I hope it's more like Street Thug than Longsword Finesse.
Here's a couple of Jaheira options, one a Warden and the other a Druid, plus a paragon version of the Paladin Anomen I posted before - though I'm not really happy with him as a Paladin.
I like the warden/druid even though I would have tried to make it a hybrid. And why did you choose Focused Expertise Scimitar instead of Weapon Expertise (Light Blades)?
I've also been trying to do something with Viconia. The basic cleric aspects are fine, but I'm still a little worried about a Paragon Path. Drow Wanderer wants a melee combatant, which doesn't quite work. I've played around a little with dark pact warlock multiclassing, but the results are ideal. The PP I like best is the Shiere Knight one available to Eladrin, with a few flavour changes, but it isn't available by default.
how about truthseeker pp for Viconia
Shiere Knight builds in my eyes to much on the Eladrin ability tot teleport. And that she can't be a melee combatant is a bit of a shame... I just finished BG2 and ToB again and used her mainly in close combat with a Belt of Stone Giant Strength and the Flail of the Ages, right after she casted Flame Strike or Storm of Vengeance.... Maybe I should think about a variant as Avenger|Cleric.....
The idea with the Truthseeker is interesting, it would definitely be useful in Drow society, only for completely other reasons than stated in the description.:D
Edit: Here's a hybrid version of Viconia.
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Viconia, level 11
Drow, Avenger|Cleric, Paragon Hybrid
Hybrid Avenger: Hybrid Avenger Reflex
Paragon Hybrid Talent: Channel Divinity (Hybrid Cleric)
Hybrid Talent: Cleric Armor Proficiency
Darkfire: Darkfire Wisdom
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 11, Con 10, Dex 21, Int 17, Wis 21, Cha 19.
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 10, Con 9, Dex 18, Int 16, Wis 18, Cha 14.
AC: 25 Fort: 17 Reflex: 23 Will: 23
HP: 73 Surges: 7 Surge Value: 18
TRAINED SKILLS
Heal +15, Insight +15, Diplomacy +14, Religion +13
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +9, Arcana +8, Bluff +9, Dungeoneering +10, Endurance +4, History +8, Intimidate +11, Nature +10, Perception +10, Stealth +11, Streetwise +9, Thievery +9, Athletics +4
FEATS
Divine Secretkeeper: Ritual Caster
Level 1: Divine Secretkeeper
Level 2: Hybrid Talent
Level 4: Weapon Proficiency (Triple-headed flail)
Level 6: Restful Healing
Level 8: Implement Expertise (holy symbol)
Level 10: Improved Initiative
Level 11: Weapon Expertise (Flail)
POWERS
Channel Divinity (Hybrid Cleric): Turn Undead
Hybrid Avenger at-will 1: Focused Fury
Hybrid Cleric at-will 1: Sacred Flame
Paragon Hybrid: Zealous Sanction
Hybrid encounter 1: Cause Fear
Hybrid daily 1: Cascade of Light
Hybrid utility 2: Cure Light Wounds
Hybrid encounter 3: Bound by Fate
Hybrid daily 5: Oath of Righteous Fury
Hybrid utility 6: Aspect of Majesty
Hybrid encounter 7: Break the Spirit
Hybrid daily 9: Flame Strike
Hybrid utility 10: Mass Cure Light Wounds
ITEMS
Ritual Book, Healer's Brooch +2, Magic Hide Armor +2, Magic Flail +2
RITUALS
Gentle Repose, Brew Potion, Hand of Fate, Discern Lies, Raise Dead, Remove Affliction
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Viconia, level 11
Drow, Avenger|Cleric, Paragon Hybrid
Hybrid Avenger: Hybrid Avenger Reflex
Paragon Hybrid Talent: Channel Divinity (Hybrid Cleric)
Hybrid Talent: Cleric Armor Proficiency
Darkfire: Darkfire Wisdom
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 11, Con 10, Dex 21, Int 17, Wis 21, Cha 19.
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 10, Con 9, Dex 18, Int 16, Wis 18, Cha 14.
AC: 25 Fort: 17 Reflex: 23 Will: 23
HP: 73 Surges: 7 Surge Value: 18
TRAINED SKILLS
Heal +15, Insight +15, Diplomacy +14, Religion +13
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +9, Arcana +8, Bluff +9, Dungeoneering +10, Endurance +4, History +8, Intimidate +11, Nature +10, Perception +10, Stealth +11, Streetwise +9, Thievery +9, Athletics +4
FEATS
Divine Secretkeeper: Ritual Caster
Level 1: Divine Secretkeeper
Level 2: Hybrid Talent
Level 4: Weapon Proficiency (Triple-headed flail)
Level 6: Restful Healing
Level 8: Implement Expertise (holy symbol)
Level 10: Improved Initiative
Level 11: Weapon Expertise (Flail)
POWERS
Channel Divinity (Hybrid Cleric): Turn Undead
Hybrid Avenger at-will 1: Focused Fury
Hybrid Cleric at-will 1: Sacred Flame
Paragon Hybrid: Zealous Sanction
Hybrid encounter 1: Cause Fear
Hybrid daily 1: Cascade of Light
Hybrid utility 2: Cure Light Wounds
Hybrid encounter 3: Bound by Fate
Hybrid daily 5: Oath of Righteous Fury
Hybrid utility 6: Aspect of Majesty
Hybrid encounter 7: Break the Spirit
Hybrid daily 9: Flame Strike
Hybrid utility 10: Mass Cure Light Wounds
ITEMS
Ritual Book, Healer's Brooch +2, Magic Hide Armor +2, Magic Flail +2
RITUALS
Gentle Repose, Brew Potion, Hand of Fate, Discern Lies, Raise Dead, Remove Affliction
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Did we have Cernd?
I loove that hybrid version! :D
Did we have Cernd?
Yes, Bluenose made three versions.
Cernd as Warden:Show====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&DI Character Builder ======
Cernd, level 10
Longtooth Shifter, Warden
Build: Wild Warden
Guardian Might: Wildblood
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 14, Con 14, Dex 9, Int 13, Wis 19, Cha 15.
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 11, Con 13, Dex 9, Int 13, Wis 15, Cha 15.
AC: 25 Fort: 20 Reflex: 18 Will: 22
HP: 99 Surges: 11 Surge Value: 25
TRAINED SKILLS
Nature +16, Heal +14, Athletics +13, Endurance +13
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +3, Arcana +6, Bluff +7, Diplomacy +7, Dungeoneering +9, History +6, Insight +9, Intimidate +7, Perception +9, Religion +6, Stealth +3, Streetwise +7, Thievery +3
FEATS
Level 1: Toughness
Level 2: Wild Senses
Level 4: Ritual Caster
Level 6: Staff Fighting
Level 8: Melee Training (Wisdom)
Level 10: Sudden Roots
POWERS
Warden at-will 1: Thorn Strike
Warden at-will 1: Earth Shield Strike
Warden daily 1: Form of the Relentless Panther
Warden daily 5: Winter's Grip
Warden daily 9: Form of the Frenzied Wolverine
Warden encounter 1: Wildblood Frenzy
Warden encounter 3: Predatory Guardian
Warden encounter 7: Stalker's Positioning
Warden utility 10: Returning Strength
Warden utility 2: Triumphant Vigor
Warden utility 6: Earthguard
ITEMS
Adventurer's Kit, Scimitar, Enduring Beast Hide Armor +2, Collar of Recovery +2, Sacrificial Quarterstaff +3, Piercing Javelin +2, Counterstrike Guards (heroic tier), Belt of Vigor (heroic tier), Quarterstaff
RITUALS
Gentle Repose, Create Campsite, Animal Messenger, Feat of Strength
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Here's a couple of character's I've done some work on while the forums were down.
First, a Viconia:
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Viconia de'Vir, level 20Drow, Cleric, Zealous DemagogueBuild: Devoted ClericDarkfire: Darkfire WisdomBackground: Drow - Outcast (+2 to Perception)FINAL ABILITY SCORESStr 11, Con 11, Dex 17, Int 15, Wis 21, Cha 19.STARTING ABILITY SCORESStr 10, Con 10, Dex 13, Int 13, Wis 16, Cha 14. AC: 31 Fort: 25 Reflex: 29 Will: 32HP: 128 Surges: 7 Surge Value: 32TRAINED SKILLSReligion +17, Diplomacy +21, Insight +22, Heal +20, Bluff +19UNTRAINED SKILLSAcrobatics +13, Arcana +14, Dungeoneering +15, Endurance +12, History +12, Intimidate +18, Nature +15, Perception +17, Stealth +15, Streetwise +14, Thievery +13, Athletics +10FEATSCleric: Ritual CasterLevel 1: Defensive Healing WordLevel 2: Implement Expertise (holy symbol)Level 4: ToughnessLevel 6: Battle HealerLevel 8: Sly DodgeLevel 10: ShadowslipLevel 11: Highborn DrowLevel 12: Armor Specialization (Chainmail)Level 14: Paragon DefensesLevel 16: Flickering ShroudLevel 18: Pervasive LightLevel 20: Greater TurningPOWERSChannel Divinity: Turn UndeadCleric at-will 1: Astral SealCleric at-will 1: Gaze of DefianceCleric encounter 1: BaneCleric daily 1: Font of TearsCleric utility 2: BlessCleric encounter 3: Hymn of ResurgenceCleric daily 5: Spiritual WeaponCleric utility 6: Cure Serious WoundsCleric encounter 7: Price of ViolenceCleric daily 9: Flame StrikeCleric utility 10: Mass Cure Light WoundsCleric encounter 13: Plague of Doom (replaces Bane)Cleric daily 15: Purifying Fire (replaces Font of Tears)Cleric utility 16: Divine ArmorCleric encounter 17: Enthrall (replaces Hymn of Resurgence)Cleric daily 19: Fire Storm (replaces Spiritual Weapon)ITEMSRitual Book, Adventurer's Kit, Holy Symbol, Timeless Locket +4, Magic Holy Symbol +5, Spiderkissed Mace +3, Agile Chainmail +4, Skyrender Hand Crossbow +2, Hand Crossbow, Mace, Bracers of Respite (paragon tier), Ring of Invigoration (paragon tier), Boots of Dancing (paragon tier), Handy Haversack (heroic tier), Ironskin Belt (heroic tier), Gloves of Piercing (heroic tier), Coif of Mindiron (heroic tier)RITUALSGentle Repose, Brew Potion, Create Holy Water, Purify Water, Delay Affliction, Iron Vigil, Remove Affliction, Cure Disease, Raise Dead, Astral Guide, Ancestral Whispers, Hallowed Temple====== Copy to Clipboard and Press the Import Button on the Summary Tab ====== Second, Anomen as a Cleric: ====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&D Character Builder ======Anomen Delryn, level 20Human, Cleric, WarpriestBuild: Battle ClericBackground: Amn, Geography - Urban, Society - Noble (+2 to Insight)FINAL ABILITY SCORESStr 23, Con 17, Dex 11, Int 11, Wis 14, Cha 15.STARTING ABILITY SCORESStr 16, Con 15, Dex 10, Int 10, Wis 12, Cha 12. AC: 36 Fort: 32 Reflex: 28 Will: 30HP: 124 Surges: 10 Surge Value: 31TRAINED SKILLSDiplomacy +17, Religion +15, History +15, Insight +19, Heal +19UNTRAINED SKILLSAcrobatics +8, Arcana +10, Bluff +12, Dungeoneering +12, Endurance +9, Intimidate +12, Nature +12, Perception +12, Stealth +6, Streetwise +12, Thievery +6, Athletics +12FEATSCleric: Ritual CasterHuman: Armor Proficiency (Scale)Level 1: Shield Proficiency (Light)Level 2: Weapon Proficiency (Warhammer)Level 4: Action SurgeLevel 6: Shield Proficiency (Heavy)Level 8: Weapon Focus (Hammer)Level 10: Weapon Expertise (Hammer)Level 11: Armor Proficiency (Plate)Level 12: Power of ProtectionLevel 14: Hammer RhythmLevel 16: Armor Specialization (Plate)Level 18: Paragon DefensesLevel 20: Dazing RebukePOWERSBonus At-Will Power: Righteous BrandChannel Divinity: Turn UndeadCleric at-will 1: Invigorating AssaultCleric at-will 1: Priest's ShieldCleric encounter 1: War Priest's StrikeCleric daily 1: Avenging FlameCleric utility 2: Cure Light WoundsCleric encounter 3: Split the SkyCleric daily 5: Rune of PeaceCleric utility 6: Cure Serious WoundsCleric encounter 7: Strike of JudgmentCleric daily 9: Blade BarrierCleric utility 10: Word of VigorCleric encounter 13: Arc of the Righteous (replaces War Priest's Strike)Cleric daily 15: Wrath of the Faithful (replaces Avenging Flame)Cleric utility 16: Divine ArmorCleric encounter 17: Halo of Peace (replaces Split the Sky)Cleric daily 19: Necrotic Transference (replaces Rune of Peace)ITEMSRitual Book, Scale Armor, Adventurer's Kit, Holy Symbol, Heavy Shield, Warhammer, Crossbow, Crossbow Bolts (20), Plate Armor of Sacrifice +4, Amulet of Attenuation +4, Plate Armor, Battering Warhammer +5, Symbol of Courage +3, Bracers of Mighty Striking (paragon tier), Dragonborn Greaves (paragon tier), Ring of Freedom of Movement (paragon tier), Ring of Perfect Grip (paragon tier), Frost Gauntlets (heroic tier), Centering Cincture (heroic tier)RITUALSGentle Repose, Brew Potion, Create Holy Water, Speak with Dead, Discern Lies, Raise Dead, Cure Disease, Delay Affliction, Remove Affliction, Astral Guide====== Copy to Clipboard and Press the Import Button on the Summary Tab ======
Thoughts?
Love Vic. Who's next?
Love Vic. Who's next?
I'm working on an alternative Imoen, starting as a rogue and then paragon multiclassing into a sorcerer. She doesn't use a bow which is a shame, but there are advantages over rogue/wizard because both classes can take advantage of daggers. There's also part of me which thinks it should be hard to become a wizard because the training involved seems to take years for normal wizards, but that awakening your sorcery could be a lot quicker and less academically demanding. Although the same could be said for Warlocks, and I suppose it isn't impossible to do Imoen as a Rogue/Warlock. If my internet connection is stable this evening it should appear then.
And the next project is the NWN1 companion characters. I want to do BG1 as well, but there's a lot of them so it will take longer and require more thought and more fiddling around with the character builder.
And here's Imoen the Rogue/Sorceress.
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Imoen, level 20
Human, Rogue, Paragon Multiclassing
Build: Trickster Rogue
Rogue Tactics: Artful Dodger
Background: Occupation - Merchant, Baldur's Gate (+2 to Bluff)
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 10, Con 13, Dex 23, Int 14, Wis 11, Cha 20.
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 9, Con 12, Dex 16, Int 13, Wis 10, Cha 15.
AC: 32 Fort: 27 Reflex: 34 Will: 31
HP: 120 Surges: 7 Surge Value: 30
TRAINED SKILLS
Intimidate +20, Stealth +25, Thievery +25, Streetwise +20, Perception +15, Acrobatics +21, Bluff +22, Arcana +17
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Diplomacy +15, Dungeoneering +10, Endurance +11, Heal +10, History +12, Insight +10, Nature +10, Religion +12, Athletics +14
FEATS
Human: Catspaw Style (retrained to Paragon Defenses at Level 12)
Level 1: Backstabber
Level 2: Arcane Prodigy
Level 4: Novice Power
Level 6: Human Perseverance
Level 8: Acolyte Power
Level 10: Adept Power
Level 11: Rogue Weapon Mastery
Level 12: Distant Advantage
Level 14: Sorcerous Power
Level 16: Implement Expertise (Light Blade)
Level 18: Opportunistic Sneak Attack
Level 20: Danger Sense
POWERS
Bonus At-Will Power: Sly Flourish
Paragon Multiclassing: Chaos Ray
Paragon Multiclassing: Prismatic Explosion
Paragon Multiclassing: Narrow Escape
Rogue at-will 1: Riposte Strike
Rogue at-will 1: Disheartening Strike (retrained to Acid Orb at Paragon Multiclassing)
Rogue encounter 1: Positioning Strike
Rogue daily 1: Press the Advantage
Rogue utility 2: Fleeting Ghost (retrained to Agile Recovery at Acolyte Power)
Rogue encounter 3: Trickster's Blade (retrained to Thundering Gust at Novice Power)
Rogue daily 5: Staggering Assault (retrained to Shocking Magnetism at Adept Power)
Rogue utility 6: Chameleon
Rogue encounter 7: Rogue's Luck
Rogue daily 9: Vexing Escape
Rogue utility 10: Gap in the Armor
Rogue encounter 13: Tornado Strike (replaces Positioning Strike)
Rogue daily 15: Mind-Boggling Onslaught (replaces Staggering Assault)
Rogue utility 16: Hide in Plain Sight
Rogue encounter 17: Hounding Strike (replaces Rogue's Luck)
Rogue daily 19: Uncanny Ricochet (replaces Vexing Escape)
ITEMS
Adventurer's Kit, Dagger (2), Crossbow Bolts (20), Potion of Healing (heroic tier) (2), Antivenom (heroic tier) (2), Bravery Powder (level 3) (2), Beastbane (level 4), Distance Dagger +5, Deathcut Leather Armor +4, Vicious Hand Crossbow +3, Shadowdancer's Boots (paragon tier), Shadowdancer's Cloak +4, Shadowdancer's Gloves (paragon tier), Shadowdancer's Mask (heroic tier), Belt of Resilience (paragon tier), Ring of Eladrin Grace (paragon tier)
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Daggers a great. You don't know with this Imoen whether she's going to throw it at you, stab you with it, or make a bolt of lightning shoot out of it. If you want to keep her out of leather armour my suggestion would be Dawn Warrior Cloth +4. An archer version could be made with a Ranger as the starting point, picking up Stealth as a class skill and Thievery from one of the several backgrounds that make it a class skill. Going even further into the unusual, a Rogue or Ranger multi-classed into Warlock would be possible. And I have thought about an option presented in a BG2 mod that makes Imoen into a Bard, which doesn't work at all badly.
Rogue/Warlock simply blew me off.
I don't see her as a bard at all. Nope. And I didn't play that mod.