The warforged has just been released as a class in Dragon Magazine. This makes it legal in ALL RPGA games.
Now granted I'm sure they'll create a corollory to this in the campaign documentation. However it seems a counter-intuitive way of allowing things. "You can have access to everything this source except what we specifically tell you." They'll have to make sure to keep it updated every time they release a new product or Dragon issue to exclude non world stuff. Otherwise people will make a character only to have it become illegal when it gets 'updated'.
In addition to the general rules in this guide, each program has its own appendix with additional information specific to the program.
What's true for the RPGA in general isn't necessarily true for Living Forgotten Realms.
So the campaigns basically have to publish their updates every week at this rate, since Dragon articles are released bit by bit, and by the RPGA guidelines, they are available as soon as they are published.
Which is why I said.. it would make more sence to disallow everything and then let the individual campaigns allow its own stuff (Like they did in 3.5) rather than allow everything and have the campaigns disallow stuff.
-Six of one thing, half-dozen of another.
-There is already precedent for 'Warforged'. Blood Forge Golems in the East.
That option has been mentioned before. But we are not in the east. And I don't think warforged are the same as bloodforge golems (aren't those made of clay?).
Gomez
That option has been mentioned before. But we are not in the east. And I don't think warforged are the same as bloodforge golems (aren't those made of clay?).
Gomez
-Off hand, I don't remember what they are made of. But, I don't know what Warforged are made of either, so we're at point one either way.
-But, for someone who absolutely, positively, must play a Warforged, there's your "loophole".
Originally Posted by smerwin29
Maybe we can get this stickied. Read the Character Creation Guidelines carefully. The rules that were just released are GENERIC RPGA rules. Each campaign, program, or event that falls under the RPGA will get an appendix within the rules that clarify and limit what is allowed in each individual campaign.
What is allowed or not allowed in LFR will be determined by the staff and then included in the LFR appendix to the document that was just released.
Shawn
LFR Global Admin
Also, the regions are desemphatised for players. The player characters could be travelers from affar, as by the honored FR tradition.
Warforged are built out of special, magic wood and metal things (and leather?), by memory. They can have custom platings of metal - or none.
-Alright.
-Off hand, I don't remember what they are made of. But, I don't know what Warforged are made of either, so we're at point one either way.
-But, for someone who absolutely, positively, must play a Warforged, there's your "loophole".
That's an easy fix if ever there was one. Put an entry in the document that says "Bloodforged Golem", with an illustration of a Bloodforged, and a description of their appearance and the materials they're made of (clay, etc). Then on one line simply say "Bloodforged Golems use the same rules for Warforged from Dragon #X". And that's it. I doubt whatever materials they're made from actually matters. Wood, clay, etc, the mechanics would likely be the same. Easy enough to take the mechanics while reflavoring the background.
That's an easy fix if ever there was one. Put an entry in the document that says "Bloodforged Golem", with an illustration of a Bloodforged, and a description of their appearance and the materials they're made of (clay, etc). Then on one line simply say "Bloodforged Golems use the same rules for Warforged from Dragon #X". And that's it. I doubt whatever materials they're made from actually matters. Wood, clay, etc, the mechanics would likely be the same. Easy enough to take the mechanics while reflavoring the background.
-Yes, which is why I said that they are the way to go for people who need to play one.
-Yes, which is why I said that they are the way to go for people who need to play one.
Yes, which is why I was bolstering your argument. :P
-Together, we are unstoppable.
So you don need "Hands" no more?
So you don need "Hands" no more?
-I need all of you. I wouldn't have formed you if I didn't need you. ;)
-I need all of you. I wouldn't have formed you if I didn't need you. ;)
On the one hand, normally each setting used for "Living" campaigns has its own subset of setting-specific rules.
On the other hand, they have clearly demonstrated their desire for "One rules to rule them all" philosophy to be paramount in 4e, and the idea is that ANY rule from ANY setting will be useable in every other setting.
Not having to worry about 'FR PrCs" or "Eberron Feats" may be a good thing in the long run, but no difference between races or classes from setting to setting may be a bit too homogenous for most of us.
IMO, if youw ant to play anything, they should have grabbed 5the 'core' setting (that is, none at all), and be done with it.
If you place a campaign in a specific world, stick to the world. That means including and excluding specific elements.
IMO, Dragon articles can be fixed simpy by tagging articles as 'FR', 'Eberron' or 'Generic'.
This would mean that FR articles are useful in FR, Eberron articles in Eberron, and Generic articles everywhere. Specific exceptions can then be made.
Note that I wouldn't mind encountering a bloodforged in a scenario as a (unique) NPC/monster. But meeting bloodforged in any regularity when played by PCs would ruin my suspension of disbelief and spoil my mood, and be a reason to just not play.
Gomez
If you place a campaign in a specific world, stick to the world. That means including and excluding specific elements.
-For some people, I guess, that "takes away their fun", and that's apparently a no-no.