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| #1sanraalJul 27, 2008 8:33:13 | Greetings. I am currently researching something as described in Lands of Intrigue as the "Waterdeep Curse", where royal members from Tethyr are murdered while travelling to Waterdeep. Below is a short summary of what I have gathered. "During the last centuries royal members from Tethyr that has travelled to Waterdeep has faced a bloody death. In 1274 DR, seven princesses from Tethyr was killed in their sleep by mimic grubs disguised as pillows and in 1288 DR, princess Shaerglynda was murdered by a petty thief while staying in the City of Splendors. Further, in 1295 DR, King Jaszur from Tethyr was killed on his way home from Waterdeep by a group of bandits after some successful negotiations between Waterdeep and Tethyr. These deaths have been known as the Waterdeep Curse, where royal members of Tethyr die a gruesome death if they travel to the City of Splendors." Are there any more information you know about this Waterdeep Curse? Have any other royalty travelled to Waterdeep, died or survived? How are the relations between the two now? (third edition) |
| #2oluevaraJul 27, 2008 9:57:16 | Greetings. I always read the "curse" as semi-coincidental. Away from Tethyr, the nobles were more easily gotten to by rivals whose advances would have been more closely guarded against in Zasesspur, Ithmong, etc. It could be an adventure hook involving paid assassins - the Shadow Thieves, perhaps, or the unseen, or one of the City of Splendors' other dark factions, but I saw this as a curse only in the same way that the Chicago Cubs are "cursed." And no, i haven't seen reference to this anywhere besides the Lands of Intrigue set. |
| #3sanraalJul 27, 2008 10:25:22 | The idea is to have the Lord's Alliance and Tethyr in negotiatings regarding a trade agreement. This is not something the Twised Rune wants, do they devise a plan to ruin the agreement. They manipulate events so that the prince from Tethyr decides to travel to Waterdeep to wrap up the negotiations and plan to kill him there. Through his death and the rumors of the Waterdeep Curse, would be enough to terminate the current negotiations and future agreements. The Twised Rune would thus be able to work in a "divide and conquer" kind of style as they continue their agenda of domination of the southern part of Faerûn. |
| #4markustay63Jul 27, 2008 10:28:08 | Now, I haven't read the series that covered it (Tethyr), nor is Waterdeep exactly my area of expertise (I actually never use and know very little about the place), buuuut... I'm fairly certain that the Royal Regalia that disappeared during the King Jaszur incident was kept hidden by the Harpers/Khelben until a 'fit' candidate could take the thrown. Which happened when Elminster's scribe Lhaeo (Prince Haedrak) re-took the thrown. AFAIK, that has effectively lifted 'the curse', which was nothing more then several groups working toward spoiling relations between Waterdeep and Tethyr, and not a real curse at all. A strong bond between The Lord's Alliance (Waterdeep) and Tethyr would put an end to many an evil scheme along the swordcoast, and this is why so many different groups oppose it. EDIT: SanRaal seems to have covered the details a little better then I whilst I was typing. ;) |
| #5rinonalyrna_fathomlinJul 27, 2008 22:24:41 | I always read the "curse" as semi-coincidental. Away from Tethyr, the nobles were more easily gotten to by rivals whose advances would have been more closely guarded against in Zasesspur, Ithmong, etc. It could be an adventure hook involving paid assassins - the Shadow Thieves, perhaps, or the unseen, or one of the City of Splendors' other dark factions, but I saw this as a curse only in the same way that the Chicago Cubs are "cursed." I was about to suggest the same thing. It could be a real curse, but it need not be. |
| #6naexJul 27, 2008 22:30:41 | I think it is mentioned briefly in one of Elaine Cunningham's novels, I think The Dream Spheres, since one of the villians is playing at being a member of the defunct (at that time) royalty of Tethyr. |
| #7rinonalyrna_fathomlinJul 27, 2008 22:35:26 | I think it is mentioned briefly in one of Elaine Cunningham's novels, I think The Dream Spheres, since one of the villians is playing at being a member of the defunct (at that time) royalty of Tethyr. If you're talking about Lady Thione, she actually was distant member of the Tethyrian royal family. |
| #8naexJul 27, 2008 22:46:05 | If you're talking about Lady Thione, she actually was distant member of the Tethyrian royal family. Thanks, wasn't sure if she was or not... Fairly certain they mention the curse in the book though. |
| #9rinonalyrna_fathomlinJul 27, 2008 22:47:09 | You're welcome.![]() |
| #10lord_karsusJul 31, 2008 22:13:26 | -They're the Faerûnian Kennedys. |
| #11Troll_GrapplerJul 31, 2008 23:16:36 | -They're the Faerûnian Kennedys. Too soon? |
| #12JohnLynchJul 31, 2008 23:27:05 | Too soon? What do you mean by that? Has something happened to another one of them recently? I thought it had been at least 5 years since they'd last had a death? |
| #13lord_karsusAug 01, 2008 11:24:52 | -Yeah, the last Kennedy I can recall being killed was JFK Jr., and that was a while ago. Almost ten years, now. |
| #14rinonalyrna_fathomlinAug 01, 2008 14:19:06 | LK is referring to this.;) |
| #15markustay63Aug 01, 2008 14:30:35 | I remember when the first one died... And I was only two months old. Okay... so maybe I don't REALLY remember it... but I was there... :P As for Waterdeep Curses - "To the Underhalls with you!" "By Halaster's Short-hairs!" "Khelban's Balls!" "May a Watch-griffon turd in your soup" "Mirt's Mass!" "Skullport Skum!" "The Masked-Lord's Arse!" Are all popular curses heard in the streets and taverns of waterdeep. :D |
| #16lord_karsusAug 01, 2008 14:34:08 | LK is referring to this.;) -Yes. Are all popular curses heard in the streets and tavers of waterdeep. :D -Good ones. |
| #17Troll_GrapplerAug 04, 2008 21:52:53 | I got what he meant. Too soon is a typical joke reply to a Schadenfreude joke that doesn't get any laughs. It specifically said in reply to a joke that isn't too soon and the lack of laughter can't possibly be related to it being too soon. |
| #18markustay63Aug 04, 2008 23:12:09 | I've heard Family Guy use that line once or twice, so I got it. |
| #19lord_karsusAug 05, 2008 12:28:06 | -I wasn't making a joke, though. I was making a statement. |