What a lame way to go....(Spoilers?)

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#1

liensamoht

Oct 08, 2009 15:44:02

Well, the statement is in the title. Just finished The Ghost King and man, what a lame way for people to go out. I mean WOW can't anyone just die. Sorry for the frustration but the build up was great, you just knew that someone was going to go out in a blaze of glory, then Lame... So many questions and very few answers. Also, I liked Jarlax and crew as mostly bad guys, not the sentimental fools they became in this novel. Just needed to vent a little

#2

LordManshoon

Oct 08, 2009 16:04:19


Well, the statement is in the title. Just finished The Ghost King and man, what a lame way for people to go out. I mean WOW can't anyone just die. Sorry for the frustration but the build up was great, you just knew that someone was going to go out in a blaze of glory, then Lame... So many questions and very few answers. Also, I liked Jarlax and crew as mostly bad guys, not the sentimental fools they became in this novel. Just needed to vent a little



Hmm. RAS letting the reader down with a sub-par third book in a trilogy? It's like deja vu. (Yes, world, I didn't care for The Two Swords.)Money mouth

I still haven't gotten around to reading TGK. I'll most likely just wait til Christmas. If you don't mind answering a question: Do the prologue and/or epilogue take place in the past or the modern 1479 DR? I've been itching to find out, but I haven't been able to get down to the bookstore.

#3

liensamoht

Oct 08, 2009 16:10:52

Neither really, I just glanced back through to try and find a date and there are none given. I read it really fast though. The only date given is 8 years after the events at Luskin I think. Even Drizzt's musings, or whatever they are, are written in the present tense with no hint of the future or past really. The book was really all over the place with six or seven subplots and almost no resolutions to any of them. Don't get me wrong it was an ok read it was just a really rushed feeling book.

#4

LordManshoon

Oct 08, 2009 16:15:49


Neither really, I just glanced back through to try and find a date and there are none given. I read it really fast though. The only date given is 8 years after the events at Luskin I think. Even Drizzt's musings, or whatever they are, are written in the present tense with no hint of the future or past really. The book was really all over the place with six or seven subplots and almost no resolutions to any of them. Don't get me wrong it was an ok read it was just a really rushed feeling book.



I see.  My thanks.

I only asked because I and a few others had a hunch regarding the prologue and epilogue of TOK: that they combined were the RAS story which had been slated for The Grand History of the Realms but got cut. The difference between TOK and TPK's pro/epi was a nudge in that direction; this is a further nudge.

#5

liensamoht

Oct 08, 2009 16:37:14

Well the book is written rather strangely, kinda like an Ed Greenwood book. In every other instance of the spellplague there are catastrophic effects. The way it is written you aren't even sure if they are in the beginning, middle or end of the failing of the weave. Cattie-brie and Drizzt are both washed up in blue fire and she gets a spell-scar, but the super awsome Drizzt is unfazed. I thought this was just some bad magical after effects until later in the book. The timeline in this book is just really hard to follow, it takes them a long time to get to Spirit-Soaring, then poof, in one sentence they are back at the Hall. No sight seeing no recollections, musings, nothing. Based on what the characters are saying it starts and ends in conjunction with the spellplague though. It's just that R.A. goes out of his way with every character to confirm that they have no idea what is going on.

#6

sfdragon

Oct 08, 2009 16:45:58

Its also the last that will have RAS's favorite characters, so if it was a bad read, it was a saying goodbye.


No more Wulfgar,Bruenor, Regis, Cattie-brie, etc

#7

liensamoht

Oct 08, 2009 17:03:44

I would not be so sure of that. Maybe the end of their journey's as we currently know them but the way it's written they are not going to be as dead as they should be.

#8

bright07

Oct 08, 2009 17:22:04

I would say this story takes place in 1385DR,during the year the SpellPlague was unleashed.Some of what happens to some of these characters may be so they could return at a later date, since not everyone can live as long as Drizzt ,and bring the story in line with 1479DR.

#9

18DELTA

Oct 08, 2009 22:21:32

So...pretty much the book is crap?Embarassed

#10

sfdragon

Oct 09, 2009 3:51:19

dunno, my signed copy hasnt come yet.


 


and no two people like the same things so.......


I personally dislike Artemis , but the promise of the witch king was a good read, and I disliked the road of the patriarch

#11

bright07

Oct 09, 2009 4:27:41

The book is pretty good.I just thought the ending stunk.This book will be a disaster if Salvatore decides that this is his last Drizzt book.I sincerely doubt that since the man is milking a gold mine.

#12

18DELTA

Oct 09, 2009 8:02:50

I pretty much got tired of Drizzit(this one is just for you LK where ever you are!Wink) in 1999.Frown

#13

liensamoht

Oct 09, 2009 8:32:03

So this is what came of the book.... Spoilers.


Cattie-brie and Regis are dead. Scooped up by Melliki and given there own personal paradise.


Cadderly is now the Ghost King, but forced to protect his destroyed library forevermore from the Shadowfell


Artemis is hinted at but other than that nothing


Bruenor can only say elf alot


Jarlax is a good guy and in love with Cattie-brie and is on a mission to find her out of the goodness of his heart


Denir wrote himself into the metatext and Ogma sent Cadderly an e-mail to become the Ghost King.


Drizzt is pissed even though he saw Melliki (His god not hers) take his wife and friend (don't halfling have their own god)


Drizzt will find wulfgar


Danica, her kids, Pikel, Ivan, and Kimmurel well there just hangin... Somewhere.

#14

The_Silversword

Oct 09, 2009 8:35:25

Ahhh so thats what happened to Denir.

#15

LordManshoon

Oct 09, 2009 9:11:53


Ahhh so thats what happened to Denir.



So he might have pulled a Mask (of sorts)? Interesting. This just makes me want to get a copy as soon as possible. But I'm having a good laugh at the idea of Regis and Catti-brie going to Mielikki's grove for all eternity. This is just an attempt to keep their souls nice and safe for whenever RAS next needs them.
#16

liensamoht

Oct 09, 2009 9:34:26



Ahhh so thats what happened to Denir.



So he might have pulled a Mask (of sorts)? Interesting. This just makes me want to get a copy as soon as possible. But I'm having a good laugh at the idea of Regis and Catti-brie going to Mielikki's grove for all eternity. This is just an attempt to keep their souls nice and safe for whenever RAS next needs them.




It was not even that subtle, Regis is musing and relates that Cattie-brie is peaceful and content but he understands that he is just a visitor. He even trys to leave but can't so he becomes the defacto care taker always setting a place for visitors who never come.
#17

18DELTA

Oct 09, 2009 15:41:43

Yep the more I hear, the stupider it sounds. I will wait for the paperback and THEN read it. Looks like I wont be missing much. Artemis in love with Cattie. I guess RA forgot about when Art had Cattie prisoner...

#18

liensamoht

Oct 09, 2009 15:58:28


Yep the more I hear, the stupider it sounds. I will wait for the paperback and THEN read it. Looks like I wont be missing much. Artemis in love with Cattie. I guess RA forgot about when Art had Cattie prisoner...





Actually it's Jarlax who is infatuated with her, Jarlax also held her prisioner in Menzenberrozan or however heck you spell that, and Artimis I guess you would say kidnapped her. It's kinda funny because there is a direct reference to that; how Jarlax treated her and actually helped them excape. This from Drizzt! Oh well, reverse stockholm syndrome anyone? On a side note the all knowing Hephastus melded with the crystall shard 6 liches and a mind flayer who can pinpoint where everyone who blinded/destroyed him cannot find Artemis. Neither can Jarlax.
#19

18DELTA

Oct 09, 2009 23:14:33

That just sealed the deal for me...I wont be reading that garbage now. I can see it now, Jarlalxle will now go looking for Art in 1479 so he can have the 'MUNCHKIN' item, while Drizzit tries to stop him.

#20

The_Silversword

Oct 09, 2009 23:27:05

I dont know it sounds like he filled in some gaps, so im gonna have to check it out, even though i havnt read a Drizzt novel since the Crystal Shard.

#21

gadren

Oct 10, 2009 1:45:10

I just read the book. Though I feel Lien's summary is misleading (especially concerning Jarlaxle), I agree that the end was INCREDIBLY dissapointing. Actually, I thought the treatment of Catti overall was really lame.


But seriously, Drizzt goes through the whole book trying to save her, and in the end he fails miserably? Seriously? And, he was so willing to do anything to save her, but the excuse is he has no way of going to the Shadowfell... even when there is a giant freakin unclosable door to the plane in the town next door, and it even says they passed through the town on the way home... Seriously, you htink Drizzt would've gone in after her..

#22

Imruphel

Oct 10, 2009 22:27:15

Honestly, what do any of you expect?


RAS has gone the George Lucas route. Like GL, he had his successful first trilogy (OK, RotJ had ewoks... and that was the beginning of the end), but now he has devolved into an ugly and unfunny parody of his former self.


Look at the names that are becoming even more stupid. Look at the dialogue from, inter alia, that silly dwarf with the two morningstars/flails. Why would anyone be surprised with Jarlaxle falling in love with Catti-Brie?


 


 

#23

gadren

Oct 10, 2009 22:34:43


Honestly, what do any of you expect?


RAS has gone the George Lucas route. Like GL, he had his successful first trilogy (OK, RotJ had ewoks... and that was the beginning of the end), but now he has devolved into an ugly and unfunny parody of his former self.


Look at the names that are becoming even more stupid. Look at the dialogue from, inter alia, that silly dwarf with the two morningstars/flails. Why would anyone be surprised with Jarlaxle falling in love with Catti-Brie?




Jarlaxle doesn't fall in love with Catti-brie, dammit. Caring about someone is not the same thing as falling in love with them. He also cares about Drizzt and Artemis quite a bit, if you've read all the novels. Is J in love with them too?


I actually liked the way he handled the end of Artemis in the other trilogy. I don't see why his "beloved characters of twenty years" don't get the same respect.


Catti-brie has gone from a strong female character to one that got almost no real dialogue in the last two books and goes out in as lame a way as possible. In fact, in his more recent books RAS has developed a strong tendency towards killing off most of the strong female characters. And then the best part? He says the book was inspired by his wife! I'm not quite sure how to take that.

#24

Nai_Calus

Oct 11, 2009 5:09:07


He also cares about Drizzt and Artemis quite a bit, if you've read all the novels. Is J in love with them too?




*insert bad yaoi fanfics here* Of course he is. ;p


I have yet to successfully read a Drizzt novel. I've tried twice, but I just haven't been able to get past the first 50 pages or so.

#25

bright07

Oct 11, 2009 11:09:08

RAS is also the same guy who killed off Chewbacca in the Star Wars New Jedi Order(I don't care if it was a group decision).I think this guy  kills off fan favorites in the lamest way possible sometimes.The only truly meaningful fan favorite death was Cadderly.That part actually was good for the story and was pretty respectful of the character.But killing off Cattie-brie like that was a complete waste.

#26

LordManshoon

Oct 11, 2009 11:31:55

Before this topic starts to veer off into RAS-bashing (which seems to be looming on the horizon), I'd like to remind everyone as a precautionary step that severe criticism of the authors has been known to attract the attention of the ORCs. So, let's try to keep this constructive, and primarily focused on The Ghost King, not its author.


 And though I have yet to read TGK, I won't begrudge RAS for giving his characters the fates he desires. They are his to do with as he pleases, so long as WOTC does not overrule him (which does not often happen in his case).

#27

bright07

Oct 11, 2009 13:38:53

I meant no disrespect to RAS.He is still one of the greatest fantasy authors of all time.The Ghost King is still a great read, even though the ending was dissapointing.

#28

rauric

Oct 11, 2009 19:56:27

Manny is just saying that RAS bashing got novel discussions banned on these forums years ago. So toning it down from 11 to about 5 would be adviseable.


RAS got me into FR in 1987. I liked most of his stuff at the time but got tired by Drizzt's stagnation as a character. I liked the evolution of Artemis and Jax but wish Drizzt would receive some of that same treatment. Anyway is it was not for RAS I would probably not be much of a reader or a gamer.

#29

godspeace21

Oct 12, 2009 0:33:07

Yeah all this bashing makes me feel bad to find Drizzt to be one of the most fascinating fantasy characters I've read about in years.  I find him very similar to Marvel or DC superheroes in terms of powers and the way he's written about.  People don't bash Batman for not changing every storyline, but Drizzt is hated for being pretty much the same character as he waas 20 years ago.  Granted I've only read up to about halfway through The Silent Blade.


 


Anyway, I am excited to read about the Ghost King.  I actually just purchased the Forgotten Realms Campaign Guide, so it's interesting to read what it said about the Spirit Soaring in conjunction of what I've read here.


Quick question though.  From those that read the book: what happened to Bruenor?  The Campaign Guide says Old King Bruenor died, but the book seemed to show him alive.  Didn't know if maybe he just transported to 1479 in a way that would seem him dead.  Read the last few pages of the book because I had to know what happened and it seemed he was good to go.

#30

liensamoht

Oct 12, 2009 11:29:51

I would like to clear up a few things. First I liked the book. Was it the best, no. Was it the worst? Far from it. I started this post out of frustration. I'm sure that it was written that way too. I can not imagine what it is like to have developed that many characters over that much time and then have to loose them. That being said most of the main characters were simplified and there personalities magnified with little explanation. The reason I believe this is because R.A. had too much too do and not enough pages. I did not mean to summarize this book, I just listed some of the strange things and, like the author, oversimplified them. Jarlax is not in love with Cattie-brie. Infatuated with, I believe so. Bruenor is not a fool who can only say "Elf" either but man did that ever wear thin. It just seems that if Danica and the kids, the town of Carradoon, Kimmeruel and the the Boulder shoulder brothers were left out somehow he could have focused on giving a little more insight into some of the decisions the characters made. So, should you read it, of course, If you are into D&D gaming at all or like to follow the lore. The revelations that Cadderly made make for some interesting assumptions about how and why magic still works. From this you can draw some excellent conclusions as to the use of magic in 4e.


 

#31

LordManshoon

Oct 14, 2009 16:16:38

Gee, I'm so glad I missed my chance for a free copy of TGK. What folly...Undecided


Oh well. I suppose RAS will just pry the money out of my coffers like he also does.


(Also, good to see Erianthe is back.)


 

#32

The_Silversword

Oct 14, 2009 17:13:08


Gee, I'm so glad I missed my chance for a free copy of TGK. What folly...

Oh well. I suppose RAS will just pry the money out of my coffers like he also does.


(Also, good to see Erianthe is back.)



Im kinda peeved i didnt get a free copy! if only i was on here sooner! Im not a huge fan of Drizzt but TGK sounds like it fills some gaps in the timeline, so if nothing else im gonna want to read it for that.


And i dont think ive had the pleasure of meeting Erianthe but im glad Erianthe is back as well

#33

Stigger

Oct 15, 2009 3:36:28

Yet more reasons as to why I avoid the novels like there's an outbreak of Ebola in town...

#34

darth_k-trava

Oct 15, 2009 19:00:27



Gee, I'm so glad I missed my chance for a free copy of TGK. What folly...


Oh well. I suppose RAS will just pry the money out of my coffers like he also does.


(Also, good to see Erianthe is back.)



Im kinda peeved i didnt get a free copy! if only i was on here sooner! Im not a huge fan of Drizzt but TGK sounds like it fills some gaps in the timeline, so if nothing else im gonna want to read it for that.


And i dont think ive had the pleasure of meeting Erianthe but im glad Erianthe is back as well




I didn't get a free copy either.... But then I have my copy ordered thru Amazon....

#35

sfdragon

Oct 15, 2009 19:07:39

I bought my copy froom RAS's shop and got it signed

#36

18DELTA

Oct 16, 2009 7:52:30

Well now aren't we special?Undecided

#37

sfdragon

Oct 16, 2009 11:08:38

no, justs nuts.....

#38

sfdragon

Oct 16, 2009 14:25:06

cadderly became truly one with ruins of spirit soaring cathedral, setting wards around it for all time to keep the dread dracolich cres=nshiwhatever trapped there.




would make for a good adventure dont you think, travel to the shadowfell and destroy idracolich and free cadderly from hios final task.... truelly epic.

#39

angelus_obscura

Oct 17, 2009 3:07:48

Interesting, thanks. Did Cadderly also make some revelations about the nature of magic, or something? Seems like someone earlier said something to that effect.


Yes, magic by numbers (a la theme of the new 4E setting) He discovers Deneir obsessing over the failing Weave and becoming absorbed into it, thereby creating the Metatext, a seemingly new form of magic. All about mathematics, etc. It's like Deneir himself is the 4E god.

I was truly disappointed in this book. It is a HUGE copout in my opinion and I think RAS does not like the new setting all, as his writing wasn't enthusiastic. All the magical scenes felt hollow and without flavor. They were literally cut/pasted from the PHB and DP. GAH!


And all that buildup for Cattie and then kill her off?!?!? WTF. We barely even experienced her being a wizard!!! Okay so RAS gave her a spellscar, that did NOTHING but take her out of the equation completely. Even the main villain felt half-arsed. -sigh-


The ONLY part of the book I enjoyed was when Thibbledorf Pwent humped the dracolich's leg off. I LOL'd at that part.

#40

The_Silversword

Oct 17, 2009 14:35:38

Yes, magic by numbers (a la theme of the new 4E setting) He discovers Deneir obsessing over the failing Weave and becoming absorbed into it, thereby creating the Metatext, a seemingly new form of magic. All about mathematics, etc. It's like Deneir himself is the 4E god.


Wasnt magic always about mathmatics? I always saw spells as like complex equations. I mean wizards still had to study the spells, or put some work into coming up with new spells. It wasnt like you was connected to the Weave and bam you could do magic. Actually I think they way 4e magic works i think it makes more sense to have a Weave to be connected to. But I guess this Metatext is the new Weave. Interesting. The more i hear about this book the more i want to read it.

#41

Stigger

Oct 18, 2009 13:14:41

I think that misses the underlying difference between sorcery and invocations versus the more disciplined and academic approach wizards use.  Not to mention the subtleties of bardic magic.  Were it just a matter of books and calculations, just about anyone could do it to some extent.

#42

The_Silversword

Oct 18, 2009 18:17:33


I think that misses the underlying difference between sorcery and invocations versus the more disciplined and academic approach wizards use.  Not to mention the subtleties of bardic magic.  Were it just a matter of books and calculations, just about anyone could do it to some extent.




That is true. They probably should of just left it a little vague about magic rather than making up a new "Weave". Let people describe how it worked how they wanted. Still it is nice to know of Deniers fate. So i guess hes like the god of magic now? or perhaps Oghma? 

#43

LordManshoon

Oct 18, 2009 18:22:10

Still it is nice to know of Deniers fate. So i guess hes like the god of magic now? or perhaps Oghma? 


Going by 4E logic? No. Because if Deneir/Oghma was the open god of magic, Shar would know, and she would've made a move against either one, since it's been said she isn't letting anyone try to make a play for Mystra's vacant throne. And if one was the secret deity of magic? Shar would also know that, and would do the same thing. So, Deneir and/or Oghma's ties to magic is/are not solid enough to label either one a deity of magic, unless there's an element missing from this. 
#44

The_Silversword

Oct 18, 2009 18:26:26

Yeah im not sure about this Metatext. It might make more sense to me once i read the book. Or maybe theyll clear it up in a future realms article or something?

#45

sfdragon

Oct 18, 2009 21:07:20

the meta text didnt quite make since to me either.

#46

The_Silversword

Oct 18, 2009 23:05:35

And you actually read the book didnt you? Well hopefully well see some game info on it.

#47

sfdragon

Oct 18, 2009 23:25:55

well we could go bug those over in the LFR section or hop over to RAS's website and ask him.


 


on the otherhand we could go ask someone else his take......

#48

Nai_Calus

Oct 18, 2009 23:38:33

Pfft Shar. Corellon could totally take the mantle of God of Magic if he wanted, he has more Divine Ranks than she does.


That he hasn't, given his long association with elven magic and his power level, is more an indication that he doesn't want to, rather than that he can't.


I can see some other god mentioning it to him and him saying "God of Magic? Goodness no, ugh, I have enough to worry about with these damned elves/eladrin/half-elves/good-aligned drow/other fey creatures as it is, besides, I do it on the side anyway, no reason to start a big mess over it."

#49

The_Silversword

Oct 19, 2009 1:58:41

I think Elminsters the god of magic. I heard he cant cast spells now cause he hears voices in his head. I think those voices are prayers from the faithful hes pickin up. Year of the Ageless One? I betya Elminsters the Ageless One whos also Volo! Think about it, you ever see Elminster and Volo in the same place at the same time? Elminster does have the Hat of Disguise, and Volo always wears a hat! Coincidence? I think not!

#50

sfdragon

Oct 19, 2009 2:54:31

little secret for you about MAster Volo.


 


he is covered by  NDA

#51

The_Silversword

Oct 19, 2009 3:34:50

what more proof do you need?

#52

sfdragon

Oct 19, 2009 4:19:20

proof for what, that he is immortal????

#53

18DELTA

Oct 19, 2009 5:26:32

Just about everything in the Realms is smothered in NDA.Yell


It would surprize me if Elminsters underwear became the new god of magic in the Realms.Undecided

#54

darth_k-trava

Oct 19, 2009 11:25:12



Interesting, thanks. Did Cadderly also make some revelations about the nature of magic, or something? Seems like someone earlier said something to that effect.


Yes, magic by numbers (a la theme of the new 4E setting) He discovers Deneir obsessing over the failing Weave and becoming absorbed into it, thereby creating the Metatext, a seemingly new form of magic. All about mathematics, etc. It's like Deneir himself is the 4E god.


That's interesting, a very metaphorical end for Deneir and Cadderly.


 




Particularly when the Denieran clergy's job was to search for this "Metatext" in the first place.... Now to find out that Denier himself cause it to form? Can anyone extrapolate on this?

#55

gersan

Oct 19, 2009 19:33:13

So during that novel Deneir lost his deity wrights and powers yes?


Do Cadderly could steel use his divine powers during adventures?

#56

sfdragon

Oct 19, 2009 19:44:44


So during that novel Deneir lost his deity wrights and powers yes?


Do Cadderly could steel use his divine powers during adventures?




no Denier became merged with the metatext.

and the rituals for cleric would give power mroe or less.


Denier isnt dead, nor he is living

#57

Stigger

Oct 20, 2009 10:06:07

I suppose I shouldn't bring up the notion that Leira corrupted the Metatext a good long while ago... as that would probably confuse the issue too much.  Oops, guess I just did...

#58

sfdragon

Oct 20, 2009 14:01:57

thats just what she wanted you to think

#59

The_Silversword

Oct 20, 2009 17:30:22


I suppose I shouldn't bring up the notion that Leira corrupted the Metatext a good long while ago... as that would probably confuse the issue too much.  Oops, guess I just did...




Corrupted is a little too strong aint it? I could see her influencing the metatext subtlety. I dont see corruption as really her thing. We are talking about the Goddess of Illusions right? and not the goddess of joy? I always get those two mixxed up, I think thats one of the reasons they "offed" her.

#60

18DELTA

Oct 20, 2009 17:41:46

Hey at least he isnt talking about Shar...

#61

The_Silversword

Oct 20, 2009 17:44:21

Very true, now she would definatly be one to corrupt it.


The Shadowtext.

#62

sfdragon

Oct 20, 2009 18:22:42

Stop giving WOTC ideas you two

#63

darth_k-trava

Oct 20, 2009 19:47:40

Especially FREEBIE ideas. If you're gonna flaunt ideas like that, then get PAID for them. Money mouth

#64

The_Silversword

Oct 20, 2009 19:53:37


Especially FREEBIE ideas. If you're gonna flaunt ideas like that, then get PAID for them.




That is a hell of an idea right there! We should get to work on that and submit it in! Of course im guessing they already got something in mind, there have been hints of the Shadow Weave being reformed. Theres all them Shades around the ruins of Ordulin trying working on it. Who knows all of the intersting things theyve already came up with?

#65

Nai_Calus

Oct 20, 2009 19:57:01

Yeah seriously shut up before I send Erevan to steal your stuff.

#66

The_Silversword

Oct 20, 2009 20:28:23


Yeah seriously shut up before I send Erevan to steal your stuff.




NOOOOO!!! not my stuff!!!
#67

LordManshoon

Oct 20, 2009 20:32:38

You know, in a round-about way, Shar did bring about Deneir's destruction. Deneir seems to have only become obsessively interested in the Metatext with the destruction of the Weave, which was brought about by Mystra's death, which was orchestrated by Shar. Deneir's merge with the Metatext is the result of Shar (and Cyric) slaying Mystra and altering the state of magic. So, indirectly, Shar did in Deneir, by inspiring him to merge his soul with the Metatext in his pursuit of knowledge regarding the new structure of magic and the cosmos.

#68

The_Silversword

Oct 20, 2009 20:43:38


You know, in a round-about way, Shar did bring about Deneir's destruction. Deneir seems to have only become obsessively interested in the Metatext with the destruction of the Weave, which was brought about by Mystra's death, which was orchestrated by Shar. Deneir's merge with the Metatext is the result of Shar (and Cyric) slaying Mystra and altering the state of magic. So, indirectly, Shar did in Deneir, by inspiring him to merge his soul with the Metatext in his pursuit of knowledge regarding the new structure of magic and the cosmos.




Yes! That does make alot of sense! All part of Shar's masterplan.
#69

Stigger

Oct 21, 2009 9:38:42

Nope, Leira corrupted it, weaving a gigantic, subtle falsehood into its truth that would unweave knowledge, or some such... a reality virus (in the computer sense) if you will.

#70

LordManshoon

Oct 21, 2009 9:43:52


Nope, Leira corrupted it, weaving a gigantic, subtle falsehood into its truth that would unweave knowledge, or some such... a reality virus (in the computer sense) if you will.



... And, my point was that Deneir took a gander into the snare Leira set because of Shar's actions. So, again, in a round-about way, Shar did play a role in Deneir's death. She brought about the magical maelstrom > Magic changed > Deneir looked to the Metatext for answers > Deneir is absorbed and ceases to exist as we know it.
#71

Stigger

Oct 21, 2009 9:49:07

No, Shar was a pawn in Leira's master plan, not the other way around.  Sadly however, Leira was just a pawn herself in Corellon's master plan to bring pain and suffering to the mortals...

#72

sfdragon

Oct 21, 2009 10:48:59

oh good drief000203F9.gif








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#73

18DELTA

Oct 21, 2009 16:36:31

Dude, that is about as annoying as my 18DELTA(CHOSEN OF CYRIC)tm crap...Embarassed

#74

The_Silversword

Oct 21, 2009 17:41:52

I was worried there for a bit Stigger, but if Corellon is behind the whole thing, then all is well.


Praise Corellon!

sorry Delta, I mean...


Praise Curellon!!!

 

#75

sfdragon

Oct 21, 2009 18:09:16

you mean 18Delta serves the god of medicine ???


 


now why hasnt your god cured the spell plague???

#76

LordManshoon

Oct 21, 2009 18:10:22


you mean 18Delta serves the god of medicine ???


 


now why hasnt your god cured the spell plague???



He can't cure that rash Araushnee left him with eons ago. You really think his doctor aspect can cure the Spellplague?
#77

sfdragon

Oct 21, 2009 18:11:39



you mean 18Delta serves the god of medicine ???


 


now why hasnt your god cured the spell plague???



He can't cure that rash Araushnee left him with eons ago. You really think his doctor aspect can cure the Spellplague?



well now that you mention it....00020344.gif









#78

angelus_obscura

Oct 22, 2009 13:46:06

So during that novel Deneir lost his deity rights and powers yes?

Do Cadderly could stiil use his divine powers during adventures?



Deneir is gone, yes. Methinks he merged with the Weave to stabilize it and change it into something that doesn't require a deity to control it.

Cadderly himself stated in the book that Deneir stopped answering his prayers, and that his new powers are coming from an unknown source (most likely Oghma). His new powers reflect the new cleric system from 4E, ie a Divine Glow/Conserate Ground that follows him around burning foes and healing allies, Deneir's clerics still maintaining their powers even with his absence (being ordained and all that).


You know, in a round-about way, Shar did bring about Deneir's destruction. Deneir seems to have only become obsessively interested in the Metatext with the destruction of the Weave, which was brought about by Mystra's death, which was orchestrated by Shar. Deneir's merge with the Metatext is the result of Shar (and Cyric) slaying Mystra and altering the state of magic. So, indirectly, Shar did in Deneir, by inspiring him to merge his soul with the Metatext in his pursuit of knowledge regarding the new structure of magic and the cosmos.


Praise Shar! 873d93aa.gif
I am humbled by the depths of her wisdom and the reach of her plans. The bitterness and despair0eeeff42.gif of the Deneirans tastes sweet to the Lady of Night.
#79

angelus_obscura

Oct 22, 2009 13:57:05


well now that you mention it....



Your tears nourishes the Lady of Sorrows. CRY, my precious! My mistress licks your tears for they taste so, so sweet. 54bd3bbb.gif
#80

Stigger

Oct 22, 2009 15:03:53

Bah, Shar only wishes she could compete with the misery and suffering Corellon and his Seldarine have brought to the world.  She's an amateur comparatively. Tongue out

#81

The_Silversword

Oct 22, 2009 16:41:33

Ye Gods! Another Sharran? I just may have to switch over to Selune to balance things out.


And Stigger what is your beef with Corellon? Did he forget your birthday or something?

#82

darth_k-trava

Oct 22, 2009 18:50:04


Bah, Shar only wishes she could compete with the misery and suffering Corellon and his Seldarine have brought to the world.  She's an amateur comparatively.



And none can compete with all the suffering that Illmater endures.

#83

sfdragon

Oct 22, 2009 19:38:14

Praise Torm

#84

darth_k-trava

Oct 22, 2009 19:47:41


Praise Torm




Praise Torm, indeed!


 

#85

The_Silversword

Oct 22, 2009 20:02:19
Selune!!!!
#86

darth_k-trava

Oct 22, 2009 20:23:23

Or, going by my current character, "Praise Denier and lets look for that metatext!!!" Ended up setting off a trap doing that.... going up to study a throne in the plane of shadow in the Cormyr line of modules.

#87

JudgeDookie

Oct 22, 2009 21:45:26

Bejebuz. Praise Bejebuz or shut up. PLEASE! smiley-angry017.gif

#88

sfdragon

Oct 22, 2009 21:46:22


Selune!!!!



QFT

 


Moonmaiden's blessings!

#89

Nai_Calus

Oct 22, 2009 23:51:47


And Stigger what is your beef with Corellon? Did he forget your birthday or something?




Yes. Corellon visits Stigger daily trying to make up for it, but Stigger is a big mean jerk and won't even listen to him. :<

#90

The_Silversword

Oct 23, 2009 1:05:43



And Stigger what is your beef with Corellon? Did he forget your birthday or something?




Yes. Corellon visits Stigger daily trying to make up for it, but Stigger is a big mean jerk and won't even listen to him. :<




Ahhhh thats too bad. We need an intervention and make those 2 sit down and work it out.

#91

LordManshoon

Oct 23, 2009 6:28:25


Ahhhh thats too bad. We need an intervention and make those 2 sit down and work it out.



... which will result in Stigger fleeing and Corellon striking him down.
#92

18DELTA

Oct 23, 2009 8:01:40

Right...

#93

angelus_obscura

Oct 23, 2009 12:37:17

Ye Gods! Another Sharran? I just may have to switch over to Selune to balance things out.


What do you mean another one? My Sharran pride was pretty well advertised before the forums underwent these changes. I miss my old sig. T_T

Figures Shar would take away the source of my joys. But that's okay, she can't help being what she is. :D

#94

LordManshoon

Oct 23, 2009 13:57:05


Ye Gods! Another Sharran? I just may have to switch over to Selune to balance things out.


What do you mean another one? My Sharran pride was pretty well advertised before the forums underwent these changes. I miss my old sig. T_T

Figures Shar would take away the source of my joys. But that's okay, she can't help being what she is. :D



Speaking of which, have you and Nightseer duked it out to see who's Shar's favored? Because odds are, she values one of you more highly than the other... Innocent
#95

Stigger

Oct 23, 2009 14:27:56

Please.  I fear no overgrown keebler god.  My problem with him stems from his being bastard who hides his and his "chosen peoples" utter depravity behind a veneer of eco-friendly garbage.  Sure, its all feel good and warm-fuzzy stuff on the surface, but get down to it and you're left with a bunch of people that would fit in with the ALF/PETA crowd quite nicely, content to unleash horrors upon the world so long as their unreasonable dogma is followed.  Its a mentality of everyone being able to live their own lives free and easy, so long as it conforms to exactly what I say it should, otherwise we'll gut them... so not so free and easy afterall.  They're just as bad as, if not worse than, humans in that respect.


Oh, yeah, and forget Shar/Selune... its so damned 3.x era.  Been there, done that, what's next...  Sune's the only way for me.

#96

Nai_Calus

Oct 23, 2009 16:32:38

It's OK, Stigger, Corellon still loves you and is still willing to welcome you into his loving embrace whenever your heart heals enough to be able to open up to him. *pats your arm comfortingly*

#97

Stigger

Oct 23, 2009 17:29:46

Sorry, I have no need, much less desire, to be taken to the pits of the Abyss by that fiend or its cohorts.  Sune and Sheela are more than enough for me.  You have my sympathy that you have fallen for such a vile entity's charms, taken in by its seductive lies and whitewashing of history.  Its my sincerest hope that you open your eyes and see the truth that history lays bare... that the Seldarine and their minions are evil incarnate.  May the waters of Evergold wash away those lies you so ferverently cling to.

#98

Nai_Calus

Oct 23, 2009 20:31:20

*sighs and pats Stigger on the head* Poor, poor deluded fool. :<

#99

sfdragon

Oct 23, 2009 21:34:23

Oh by Bahamut's scaled buttocks.......


 


this is getting rediculous....

#100

The_Silversword

Oct 23, 2009 21:55:16


Oh by Bahamut's scaled buttocks.......


 


this is getting rediculous....




Which part? Stiggers anti Seldarine sentiments or Nai's hugging and patting?


Just dont mention that Sune is now part of the Seldarine, that will set both of them off

#101

18DELTA

Oct 23, 2009 22:03:43

Sune is now part of the Seldarine....


 


Runs and hides and watches...

#102

The_Silversword

Oct 23, 2009 22:05:36


Sune is now part of the Seldarine....


 


Runs and hides and watches...




I specifically stated not to say that!


oh man youve done it now.

#103

18DELTA

Oct 23, 2009 22:06:11

:snickers:

#104

sfdragon

Oct 23, 2009 22:21:23

the smileys are coming the smileys are coming


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Sune is an acended Archfey





#105

Nai_Calus

Oct 24, 2009 4:18:47

*twitch*


*twitchtwitch*


Corellon, may your grace grant me the strength and self-control to not simply kill them all.

#106

The_Silversword

Oct 24, 2009 4:27:24

I told them not to say it!


No one ever listens to me!

#107

The_Silversword

Oct 24, 2009 4:50:27


Ye Gods! Another Sharran? I just may have to switch over to Selune to balance things out.


What do you mean another one? My Sharran pride was pretty well advertised before the forums underwent these changes. I miss my old sig. T_T

Figures Shar would take away the source of my joys. But that's okay, she can't help being what she is. :D




Sorry I must of missed that. I knew Nightseer is servant of the Lady of Loss, and so then theres you too, and Im sure theres many, many more hiding in the shadows...

#108

LordManshoon

Oct 24, 2009 10:51:35


Sorry I must of missed that. I knew Nightseer is servant of the Lady of Loss, and so then theres you too, and Im sure theres many, many more hiding in the shadows...


Nope. I checked, and slew all the ones I found. Nightseer and Angelus are the last of a dying breed, in these parts. Innocent
#109

sfdragon

Oct 24, 2009 15:56:12


I told them not to say it!


No one ever listens to me!




I'm afraid nobody listens to anyone

 

#110

Stigger

Oct 24, 2009 16:16:28

You're all sucky... crappy wingmen too.


And Sune is not part of those evil and murderous Seldarine.  Its WotC/NeoCon propaganda trying to smear her good name... and you know who is behind it all...

#111

The_Silversword

Oct 24, 2009 17:55:56

The Halfling girl dancers?

#112

18DELTA

Oct 24, 2009 18:21:50

Richard Baker!!!!1111!!!!1Wink

#113

sfdragon

Oct 24, 2009 20:19:31


Richard Baker!!!!1111!!!!1




nope, remember we only blame the person in charge,

Chirs Perkins.   000202D6.gif









#114

Nai_Calus

Oct 24, 2009 22:20:02

Corellon's blade, that SMILEY. KILL IT WITH FIRE. AND ACID. AND THEN THROW IT INTO A SPHERE OF ANNIHILATION.

#115

sfdragon

Oct 24, 2009 23:24:06


Corellon's blade, that SMILEY. KILL IT WITH FIRE. AND ACID. AND THEN THROW IT INTO A SPHERE OF ANNIHILATION.




the CAPS kill them, with cold and electricty, and then throw  them into a G. Cube.
#116

18DELTA

Oct 24, 2009 23:41:01

I forgot about CP!!!111!1!1!!!1

#117

Nai_Calus

Oct 24, 2009 23:53:08

The new smiley is not an improvement.

#118

angelus_obscura

Oct 25, 2009 1:23:36

Speaking of which, have you and Nightseer duked it out to see who's Shar's favored? Because odds are, she values one of you more highly than the other...


You tell me.


Here's a clue: Who is the more active board member? Wink

#119

LordManshoon

Oct 25, 2009 20:16:27


Speaking of which, have you and Nightseer duked it out to see who's Shar's favored? Because odds are, she values one of you more highly than the other...



#120

nightseer

Oct 26, 2009 0:53:47

Now I know why my ears have been buring lately.

#121

angelus_obscura

Oct 26, 2009 1:57:58

Now I know why my ears have been buring lately.


DANCE MY SHADOW PUPPET, DANCE!!! buahahahahaha ... ahem. Innocent
#122

The_Silversword

Oct 26, 2009 2:01:22


Now I know why my ears have been buring lately.


DANCE MY SHADOW PUPPET, DANCE!!! buahahahahaha ... ahem.



Yes you Sharrans duke it out for supremecy, giving me the diversion i need to sneak into Netheril!


Wait, did I just say that out loud?

#123

sfdragon

Oct 26, 2009 2:54:15

thats okay, they dont care... not like Netheril did anything for them.


 


besides if Shar looses Netheril and they forget they heard you say it, then it forfills Shar's deal of forgotten secrets and loss.

#124

Stigger

Oct 27, 2009 10:50:14

Speaking of lame ways to go...

#125

JudgeDookie

Oct 28, 2009 0:27:25


I told them not to say it!


No one ever listens to me!




Um...I've learned relatively quickly that there is a reason for that.


Corellon's blade, that SMILEY. KILL IT WITH FIRE. AND ACID. AND THEN THROW IT INTO A SPHERE OF ANNIHILATION.




That smiley would obviously kisk your ass,  18D. I'd watch what you say around it.

#126

JudgeDookie

Oct 28, 2009 0:38:11

Ironic enough, you've become exactly what 18D used to be: A smiley happy freak.

#127

The_Silversword

Oct 28, 2009 3:02:10



I told them not to say it!


No one ever listens to me!




Um...I've learned relatively quickly that there is a reason for that.




Why You! 


I would say something to that, but it would just get deleted and/or get me banned.

#128

sfdragon

Oct 28, 2009 3:40:20




I told them not to say it!


No one ever listens to me!




Um...I've learned relatively quickly that there is a reason for that.




Why You! 


I would say something to that, but it would just get deleted and/or get me banned.




 


hey guys, the Mandates of Helm dictate this thread may end up for being locked as it is now off topic.


 


 


Drizzt is not lame

#129

The_Silversword

Oct 28, 2009 3:53:28

He started it!

#130

sfdragon

Oct 28, 2009 3:54:22

doesnt matter.


 


it ends, now mandates of Helm and all


 


Bruenor was da bomb

#131

The_Silversword

Oct 28, 2009 4:01:49

All right. You are right. I just realized this isnt one of our Spam a lot threads. So back to serious discussions and spoilers.


So any word on Finder? I think hes dead or has been corrupted by Moander. There is a passage in the Campaign Guide about a pit of corruption around the Dalelands, sounds alot like Moander to me.

#132

sfdragon

Oct 28, 2009 4:20:34

not that I've heard.


could ask ED, however the answer I can foretell is NDA.


 


we can ask about the pit though....


 


in my realms he is a primordal spirit.....

#133

18DELTA

Oct 28, 2009 7:10:06


Ironic enough, you've become exactly what 18D used to be: A smiley happy freak.




I guess thats why they took my fun away.Frown

I refuse to download smilies, when the forum I am on should provide me with all of the tools I needs for my tomfoolery!Embarassed

#134

Nai_Calus

Oct 28, 2009 7:18:45

The original smiley my comment was on before it was edited was a GIGANTIC, creepy as all hell smiliing smiley. The current one is less creepy, but still obnoxious.

#135

sfdragon

Oct 28, 2009 16:08:36


The original smiley my comment was on before it was edited was a GIGANTIC, creepy as all hell smiliing smiley. The current one is less creepy, but still obnoxious.




yes it was.

that s why I dont leave if for long0002013F.gif








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#136

JudgeDookie

Oct 28, 2009 17:36:12


I would say something to that, but it would just get deleted and/or get me banned.




Correct. Though feel free to PM me with any disgruntled comments. I'm here to listen.


So any word on Finder? I think hes dead or has been corrupted by Moander. There is a passage in the Campaign Guide about a pit of corruption around the Dalelands, sounds alot like Moander to me.




Finder sucked. I hope he was corrupted by Moander and is rotting away somewhere.


I guess thats why they took my fun away.

I refuse to download smilies, when the forum I am on should provide me with all of the tools I needs for my tomfoolery!



QFT


I feel your pain, my man.


Though, I don't know why it matters--is it just me or does the insert image function fail for everyone? Even using one of the boards fail all the time.

#137

sfdragon

Oct 28, 2009 18:54:23

the board smileys suck.


 


the free downloads are not much better all though the one that shoots the finger .....

#138

darth_k-trava

Oct 28, 2009 19:37:03


the board smileys suck.


 


the free downloads are not much better all though the one that shoots the finger .....




QFT

#139

sfdragon

Oct 28, 2009 19:37:49



the board smileys suck.


 


the free downloads are not much better all though the one that shoots the finger .....




QFT




+5
#140

JudgeDookie

Oct 28, 2009 19:43:34

Too bad said smileys get you banned.  smiley-rolleyes007.gif

#141

sfdragon

Oct 28, 2009 19:48:25

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aye, thats why I never used it.







#142

JudgeDookie

Oct 28, 2009 20:07:32

To tell you the truth, I find that damn, dancing strawberry more offensive than the finger. If I was running the show, all dancing fruit would constitute an imediate ban.

#143

angelus_obscura

Oct 28, 2009 22:03:23

To tell you the truth, I find that damn, dancing strawberry more offensive than the finger. If I was running the show, all dancing fruit would constitute an imediate ban.


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Say no to Proposition Fruit!


 

#144

18DELTA

Oct 29, 2009 0:21:03

Embarassed

#145

Stigger

Oct 29, 2009 14:29:37

So yeah... that was certainly a return to serious discussion...

#146

angelus_obscura

Oct 29, 2009 14:41:33

Heehee!


Anyways, what did every1 think of Cadderly dying and haunting the ruins of Spirit Soaring as a spectral warden to the imprisoned dracolich?


What about Jarlaxle? I thought he has become the new Drizzt, with all the genuine compassion and heroism.


I'm glad the Bouldershoulder bruthas survived. I can't imagine a Faerun without the dwarf doodad. "oo oi!"


And what happens to Drizzt's and Catti-brie's foretold children? It would've been nice if they had a child at least before she went to Mylicky's Glade (auto-mated timer to keep ur heaven smelling great!). -_-

#147

sfdragon

Oct 29, 2009 16:06:57

nothing said.


if anything its NDA

#148

JudgeDookie

Oct 29, 2009 20:27:28


To tell you the truth, I find that damn, dancing strawberry more offensive than the finger. If I was running the show, all dancing fruit would constitute an immediate ban.



Say no to Proposition Fruit!


 




No ****.



So yeah... that was certainly a return to serious discussion...




Yeah. I've noticed thats a bit scarce around here these days. I almost miss our arguments over Elves with LK these days.



What about Jarlaxle? I thought he has become the new Drizzt, with all the genuine compassion and heroism.


I'm glad the Bouldershoulder bruthas survived. I can't imagine a Faerun without the dwarf doodad. "oo oi!"




Never.



nothing said.


if anything its NDA




Enough with the NDA ****. It's driving me goonie.


 


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#149

Stigger

Oct 30, 2009 7:39:20

It was kind of inevitable that serious discussion would drop off I think.  With the barebones approach to fluff, do-it-yourself mentality, there just isn't much to stimulate discussion beyond "yeah, good idea" and "no, crap idea".  Great if your into that approach, but it doesn't do much to offer meat to sink ones teeth into.

#150

The_Silversword

Oct 30, 2009 7:48:04

What gets me is that sfdragon yelled at me for goin off topic...


and what does he add to the conversation?


Dancing fruit!

#151

18DELTA

Oct 30, 2009 14:57:34

Why did I click the link? FACEPALM...

#152

The_Silversword

Oct 30, 2009 15:18:10


Why did I click the link? FACEPALM...




I feel your pain.


At first I was like Black Lace? ok this should be good.


and then it was like NOOOOOOOOO! More dancing fruit!!!!

#153

sfdragon

Oct 30, 2009 15:37:31


What gets me is that sfdragon yelled at me for goin off topic... and what does he add to the conversation?

Dancing fruit!



Agadoo-do-do!


www.youtube.com/watch?v=POv-3yIPSWc




good girl

 



What gets me is that sfdragon yelled at me for goin off topic...
and what does he add to the conversation?
Dancing fruit!




I removed my dancing fruit


Dookie's the one with it now


 


 


 

#154

The_Silversword

Oct 30, 2009 16:21:21


I removed my dancing fruit


Dookie's the one with it now



Well theres still plenty of dancing fruit, and I blame you for starting it!


I liked you better when it was all about dancing Halflings

#155

sfdragon

Oct 30, 2009 16:27:12

but but I dont half any pics of nekid halfling girls...... and I'd get banned for posting them anyway.....


 


but there was this one, not nude though:


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#156

The_Silversword

Oct 30, 2009 16:39:12

Sweet!


Thats better than Dancing Fruit any day.


I had this one DM once that used to throw the California Dancing Raisins at us. I always hated those guys, now more so.

#157

sfdragon

Oct 30, 2009 16:46:35

 I has some of those back in the day from hardees...... they had the best cinamin raisin biscuits

#158

darth_k-trava

Oct 30, 2009 17:09:46


but but I dont half any pics of nekid halfling girls...... and I'd get banned for posting them anyway.....


 


but there was this one, not nude though:





Or this one, of 3e "Lidda"


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#159

darth_k-trava

Oct 30, 2009 17:10:50


Sweet!


Thats better than Dancing Fruit any day.


I had this one DM once that used to throw the California Dancing Raisins at us. I always hated those guys, now more so.




Be glad you weren't the group who started the whole Gazebo Adventure.... lol

#160

The_Silversword

Oct 30, 2009 17:12:04

 



Or this one, of 3e "Lidda"


 




Yeah baby!!


Im gonna save that one for ..uhm... later.

#161

The_Silversword

Oct 30, 2009 17:16:09


Be glad you weren't the group who started the whole Gazebo Adventure.... lol




LOL! We have had some times but nothing quite like that. That poor guy will never live that down.

#162

darth_k-trava

Oct 30, 2009 17:22:50

And then we start the jokes after the DM sicced a frickin' HOUSE construct on us a few sessions ago..... Undecided

#163

darth_k-trava

Oct 30, 2009 17:23:47


 



Or this one, of 3e "Lidda"


 




Yeah baby!!


Im gonna save that one for ..uhm... later.




Halfling porn. Brought to you by your friendly folks at Wizards....

#164

The_Silversword

Oct 30, 2009 17:26:01


Halfling porn. Brought to you by your friendly folks at Wizards....




*Insert Silversword's running gag about Mage Hand here*

#165

sfdragon

Oct 30, 2009 17:27:00

mmmm Lidda.... she was deffinitely better looking than that ELf bimbo with the goblin ears....

#166

sfdragon

Oct 30, 2009 17:31:52

halfling girl on a wolf


halfling_rider.jpg


 


 


femalehalfling_small.jpg


 


 


okay I know its lame way to go out though..... but ummm how soon before the ORCS get here and tell us to stop.

#167

darth_k-trava

Oct 30, 2009 18:01:40



Halfling porn. Brought to you by your friendly folks at Wizards....




*Insert Silversword's running gag about Mage Hand here*




*chortle*


 

#168

darth_k-trava

Oct 30, 2009 18:03:47


mmmm Lidda.... she was deffinitely better looking than that ELf bimbo with the goblin ears....




Yup. The elf bimbo makes people retch whereas Lidda made guys....well......


I think I like the 3e "icons" rather than the ones they've got for 4e.

#169

sfdragon

Oct 30, 2009 18:12:09

some of the artwork of said elf bimbo wasnt all bad.


__mialee___my_own___by_MizuGonJinn.jpg


this one is amogst the best


 


still the half-elf druidess and Lidda were the best looking in the majority of the 3.x iconic art

#170

The_Silversword

Oct 30, 2009 18:12:39


Yup. The elf bimbo makes people retch whereas Lidda made guys....well......


I think I like the 3e "icons" rather than the ones they've got for 4e.




Do they even have ones for 4e? Just seems like they got random generic characters.

#171

The_Silversword

Oct 30, 2009 18:15:44

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Now theres some Elven Ears!

#172

sfdragon

Oct 30, 2009 18:20:15

are those ears or horns??


 


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#173

The_Silversword

Oct 30, 2009 18:27:24


are those ears or horns??




Those are actually ears!

#174

darth_k-trava

Oct 30, 2009 18:31:08



Now theres some Elven Ears!




Damn. I think I can pick up Japanese tv with those things!!!

#175

darth_k-trava

Oct 30, 2009 18:32:56



Yup. The elf bimbo makes people retch whereas Lidda made guys....well......


I think I like the 3e "icons" rather than the ones they've got for 4e.




Do they even have ones for 4e? Just seems like they got random generic characters.




As generic as 4e is? Not likely.

#176

The_Silversword

Oct 30, 2009 18:33:40



Now theres some Elven Ears!




Damn. I think I can pick up Japanese tv with those things!!!




Hey! he heard that!

#177

darth_k-trava

Oct 30, 2009 18:37:35

Then he needs to ajdust the ears as reception is fading out.

#178

The_Silversword

Oct 30, 2009 18:57:04


Then he needs to ajdust the ears as reception is fading out.




He just needs some aluminum foil

#179

sfdragon

Oct 30, 2009 19:03:23



Then he needs to ajdust the ears as reception is fading out.




He just needs some aluminum foil




copper wires may do better these days....
#180

Nai_Calus

Oct 30, 2009 21:31:28

This thread needs more Devis and Soveliss.

#181

JudgeDookie

Oct 31, 2009 4:41:55


It was kind of inevitable that serious discussion would drop off I think.  With the barebones approach to fluff, do-it-yourself mentality, there just isn't much to stimulate discussion beyond "yeah, good idea" and "no, crap idea".  Great if your into that approach, but it doesn't do much to offer meat to sink ones teeth into.




Yeah. Part of the reason why I left five months ago. Hoped to return and find something new going on, but....



What gets me is that sfdragon yelled at me for goin off topic...


and what does he add to the conversation?


Dancing fruit!




In his words: "QFT."



I removed my dancing fruit


Dookie's the one with it now




I don't do dancing fruit--no matter how sexy it is.  smiley-score001.gif


 


---


Oh, yeah. This thread needs to find a proper topic: Say, has DDI put out anything respectable on the demise of those lost to 4e at all?

#182

The_Silversword

Oct 31, 2009 6:56:36


This thread needs more Devis and Soveliss.




Ask and ye shall receive


 


Soveliss.jpg


Devis.jpg

#183

The_Silversword

Oct 31, 2009 7:08:05


Oh, yeah. This thread needs to find a proper topic: Say, has DDI put out anything respectable on the demise of those lost to 4e at all?




Quite right, after reading thru the posts it seems we turned the topic into who can find the biggest elf ears. As for DDI, no they havnt put out anything respectable on the demise of anyone, mostly just Realmslore stuff. So far theyve done articles on Returned Abeir, Cormyr, The City of Airspur, The Moonshaes, Eric Scott De Bie recently did an article on a Relegious Order dedicated to Torm that split off from the Night Masks in Westgate, Very, Interesting article, but no, no real Info on those lost to us in 4e.

#184

darth_k-trava

Nov 01, 2009 19:54:24



Oh, yeah. This thread needs to find a proper topic: Say, has DDI put out anything respectable on the demise of those lost to 4e at all?




Quite right, after reading thru the posts it seems we turned the topic into who can find the biggest elf ears. As for DDI, no they havnt put out anything respectable on the demise of anyone, mostly just Realmslore stuff. So far theyve done articles on Returned Abeir, Cormyr, The City of Airspur, The Moonshaes, Eric Scott De Bie recently did an article on a Relegious Order dedicated to Torm that split off from the Night Masks in Westgate, Very, Interesting article, but no, no real Info on those lost to us in 4e.




Too bad one has to be a DDI subscriber to be able to read that Erik article..... Cry

#185

The_Silversword

Nov 01, 2009 19:56:37




Oh, yeah. This thread needs to find a proper topic: Say, has DDI put out anything respectable on the demise of those lost to 4e at all?




Quite right, after reading thru the posts it seems we turned the topic into who can find the biggest elf ears. As for DDI, no they havnt put out anything respectable on the demise of anyone, mostly just Realmslore stuff. So far theyve done articles on Returned Abeir, Cormyr, The City of Airspur, The Moonshaes, Eric Scott De Bie recently did an article on a Relegious Order dedicated to Torm that split off from the Night Masks in Westgate, Very, Interesting article, but no, no real Info on those lost to us in 4e.




Too bad one has to be a DDI subscriber to be able to read that Erik article.....



Well you dont HAVE to be a member but it definately helps.

#186

darth_k-trava

Nov 01, 2009 19:59:09

Especially to read articles like that.... And I don't have spare gp laying about....

#187

JudgeDookie

Nov 02, 2009 18:06:53

I found most of the **** coming out of DDI sucked anyway. Must we revisit "The Headless Zhent" to prove this point? smiley-rolleyes007.gif

#188

sfdragon

Nov 02, 2009 20:08:42

actually, the eye if justice was good.


the drizzt one was good


the airispu  ones were good.


the one on the 20th the third airspur one will be good too..


 


yeah I bought a months subscription......

#189

The_Silversword

Nov 02, 2009 20:15:08

Whats wrong with the Headless Zhent?

#190

sfdragon

Nov 02, 2009 20:24:39

it was what , one of the exerpts from the FRCG, nothing is wrong with it, otehr than its a sleepy hollow cliche.

#191

JudgeDookie

Nov 02, 2009 21:13:07


it was what , one of the exerpts from the FRCG, nothing is wrong with it, otehr than its a sleepy hollow cliche.




Was it actually mentioned in the FRCG? Where?


If so:  Surprised


 


Silversworrd, how, lame is recreating the Sleepy Hallow bit, simply because you can't think of anything original?

#192

18DELTA

Nov 02, 2009 23:15:47

This is the thread to read all about it...

#193

JudgeDookie

Nov 02, 2009 23:29:40

I'm hoping that was a joke. smiley-angry019.gif

#194

sfdragon

Nov 02, 2009 23:30:38

well either that one or the frpg....


 


but yeah its image was there

#195

darth_k-trava

Nov 03, 2009 16:59:22



it was what , one of the exerpts from the FRCG, nothing is wrong with it, otehr than its a sleepy hollow cliche.




Was it actually mentioned in the FRCG? Where?


If so: 

 


Silversworrd, how, lame is recreating the Sleepy Hallow bit, simply because you can't think of anything original?




Probably no lamer than putting real world cultures into the Realms.... Maztica, anyone?

#196

sfdragon

Nov 03, 2009 22:18:29

you forgot mulhaundi

#197

JudgeDookie

Nov 04, 2009 0:45:15

Well, at least there is a basis to Maztica--not the Headless Zhent.

#198

LordManshoon

Nov 04, 2009 9:19:47


you forgot mulhaundi



Hey, Mulhorand actually pulled its weight and contributed to the region. It was a major player in the East. Shame it was ethnically cleansed by that picky Spellplague.
#199

darth_k-trava

Nov 04, 2009 13:36:30


you forgot mulhaundi




That one too. Maztica was the first to come to mind, despite my friends' Ra jokes at our last FR game session....

#200

darth_k-trava

Nov 04, 2009 13:38:47



you forgot mulhaundi



Hey, Mulhorand actually pulled its weight and contributed to the region. It was a major player in the East. Shame it was ethnically cleansed by that picky Spellplague.



I would say something but I'll bet there's something in the COC abt fantasy world "ethnic cleansing" that would get me into trouble for commenting...


So, I'm pleading the FIFTH. Of anything! Wink

#201

JudgeDookie

Nov 04, 2009 14:26:14

Let's not forget that this is the "Forgotten Realms". The two aforementioned countries relate to that.


It may not be what Ed had in mind from the start, but it sorta fits.

#202

LordManshoon

Nov 04, 2009 15:50:58




you forgot mulhaundi



Hey, Mulhorand actually pulled its weight and contributed to the region. It was a major player in the East. Shame it was ethnically cleansed by that picky Spellplague.



I would say something but I'll bet there's something in the COC abt fantasy world "ethnic cleansing" that would get me into trouble for commenting...


So, I'm pleading the FIFTH. Of anything! Wink



The Spellplague wiped out the Mulhorandi, and damaged the Mulan bloodline. The ravages of the Spellplague resulted in an ethnic heritage taking a severe hit. My description isn't really off the mark. The Spellplague is the murderer; I'm just the unbiased third party who survived the century and recalls what he saw. Wink

But let us put the past behind us. What matters is.... Fzoul died miserably. Praise Ao!

#203

JudgeDookie

Nov 04, 2009 15:55:48

As was common before I departed, if you couldn't explain it: "SPELLPLAGUE!!!"

#204

Stigger

Nov 04, 2009 16:41:39

F-fail would pretty accurately describe him, beat down or no...

#205

darth_k-trava

Nov 04, 2009 18:34:58





you forgot mulhaundi



Hey, Mulhorand actually pulled its weight and contributed to the region. It was a major player in the East. Shame it was ethnically cleansed by that picky Spellplague.



I would say something but I'll bet there's something in the COC abt fantasy world "ethnic cleansing" that would get me into trouble for commenting...


So, I'm pleading the FIFTH. Of anything!


The Spellplague wiped out the Mulhorandi, and damaged the Mulan bloodline. The ravages of the Spellplague resulted in an ethnic heritage taking a severe hit. My description isn't really off the mark. The Spellplague is the murderer; I'm just the unbiased third party who survived the century and recalls what he saw.


I don't care for the whole spellplague thing.


But let us put the past behind us. What matters is.... Fzoul died miserably. Praise Ao!



I thought he was an exarch (whatever the frell that really is...) or something... but not "dead miserably". Heck. They couldn't even make up their mind if he was a blonde or a redhead..... Laughing

#206

LordManshoon

Nov 04, 2009 18:38:20


I thought he was an exarch (whatever the frell that really is...) or something... but not "dead miserably". Heck. They couldn't even make up their mind if he was a blonde or a redhead..... Laughing



Well, he became an Exarch after dying. He died because the Netherese bombed the hell out of Zhentil Keep, and he got slain in the chaos. No blaze of glory, no honorable defense.... just slumping over and voiding his bowels like any ol' corpse.  I consider that dying miserably for an NPC of his status.
#207

darth_k-trava

Nov 04, 2009 18:38:39


As was common before I departed, if you couldn't explain it: "SPELLPLAGUE!!!"




And people thought that Star Trek Voyager sucked.....


Just an amusing aside... my players liked to refer to Fzoul as "F-fail" Chembryl after they solidly trounced him.




So would've loved for our earlier FR party, including my cleric of Torm, to have gotten the chance to kick his sorry *** all over the place... Smile

#208

Stigger

Nov 05, 2009 7:39:34

They (whoever They are!) thought ST: Voyager sucked mainly because it did... Wink

#209

darth_k-trava

Nov 10, 2009 17:27:56

Yeah. I gave up on it because it got stupid. Same with Enterprise until the last season.

#210

The_Silversword

Nov 10, 2009 17:59:03

When did this turn into the Star Trek thread?


Fine ill play along. I liked em all except the last one they put out with whats his name from Quantum Leap. The show was supposed to take place before the orginal seris but everything looked more high tech in that show WTF?


I also hated Deep Space Nine in the later seasons when it turned into a Space Soap Opera.


And the first couple of seasons of STTNG I thought sucked, once they got rid of the spandex uniforms and Ryker got a beard the show become watchable.

#211

darth_k-trava

Nov 10, 2009 18:38:12


When did this turn into the Star Trek thread?


Fine ill play along. I liked em all except the last one they put out with whats his name from Quantum Leap. The show was supposed to take place before the orginal seris but everything looked more high tech in that show WTF?


I also hated Deep Space Nine in the later seasons when it turned into a Space Soap Opera.


And the first couple of seasons of STTNG I thought sucked, once they got rid of the spandex uniforms and Ryker got a beard the show become watchable.




Because would you, the audience in today's times with today's SFX tech, watch a show with, what is now, primitive SFX tech? Probably not. If Roddenberry had done Trek today, it'd have today's SFX tech.


Blame Babylon 5 for DS9 becoming more serialized than it was... And dunno who to blame for all the romance on it...


Riker looked MUCH better with the beard.

#212

JudgeDookie

Nov 10, 2009 20:30:17

What a lame way for this thread to go. smiley-rolleyes007.gif

#213

18DELTA

Nov 10, 2009 20:39:02

So what about Battlestar Galatica...

#214

The_Silversword

Nov 10, 2009 20:39:09


What a lame way for this thread to go.



What!? you dont like Star Trek?

It gives us something to do while we await another book release, and then someone can post more spoilers.

#215

18DELTA

Nov 10, 2009 20:45:47

Yes it gets old waiting for the next knee-jerk reaction around here...

#216

JudgeDookie

Nov 10, 2009 20:50:08


So what about Battlestar Galatica...




Lamer.



What!? you dont like Star Trek?


It gives us something to do while we await another book release, and then someone can post more spoilers.




Yes, I like Star Trek just fine. But, perhaps, one of us could come up with something FR related to actually debate and discuss while we await--El' panties not included. smiley-rolleyes007.gif

#217

darth_k-trava

Nov 10, 2009 20:51:57


So what about Battlestar Galatica...




Never watched it after the first minute of the series. Went "WTF?" and changed channels.

#218

darth_k-trava

Nov 10, 2009 20:53:07



So what about Battlestar Galatica...




Lamer.



What!? you dont like Star Trek?


It gives us something to do while we await another book release, and then someone can post more spoilers.




Yes, I like Star Trek just fine. But, perhaps, one of us could come up with something FR related to actually debate and discuss while we await--El' panties not included.




Which FR Gods would the Trek characters worship?

#219

The_Silversword

Nov 10, 2009 20:58:31


Which FR Gods would the Trek characters worship?




Im not sure, I think they would all be screwed on Toril, with no computers to tell them whats up or make lunch and tea for them. I dont know maybe they would worship Gond in hopes he could give them insight into how to create magical computers.

#220

JudgeDookie

Nov 10, 2009 21:05:39

Bejebuz, you ****ing ninny's! Bejebuz!!! 19.gif

#221

The_Silversword

Nov 10, 2009 21:22:09

Hey its Realms related!

#222

JudgeDookie

Nov 10, 2009 21:31:16

My ass it is! free-mad-smileys-285.gif

#223

The_Silversword

Nov 10, 2009 21:38:31

Well with all the portals on Toril, and wormholes in Sar Trek, Its very possible for the 2 to interact. They already did X-men abd Star Trek, So we can all hope for a Star Trek/Forgotten Realms cross over. My fingers are crossed.

#224

The_Silversword

Nov 10, 2009 22:50:19

I was kidding.


But If they did do a Star Trek/Forgotten Realms team-up thing i prpbably would buy it!

#225

Stigger

Nov 11, 2009 0:44:46

It would be a short series...


Something about the Prime Directive...


Wizard teleports to the bridge...


Whole planet full of Q's, bugger this...


Warp 9.9 in any direction, engage...


Insert an away-team in there somewhere and Ryker getting laid with the nearest non-human available, and maybe something with Picard's shirt off talking to El and making us all wonder what the hell was up with that one...

#226

The_Silversword

Nov 11, 2009 0:47:30

Yes! I think we found the one to write it!

#227

18DELTA

Nov 11, 2009 6:12:13

I am going to start calling JD and Silver the forums "Bert and Ernie".Embarassed


I just wonder who is the Pitcher, and who is the Catcher in their relationship?Undecided

#228

Stigger

Nov 11, 2009 6:33:37

I'm going with JD as the catcher...

#229

The_Silversword

Nov 11, 2009 6:41:33


I am going to start calling JD and Silver the forums "Bert and Ernie".

I just wonder who is the Pitcher, and who is the Catcher in their relationship?



Not funny

not funny at all.

#230

The_Silversword

Nov 11, 2009 6:41:53


I'm going with JD as the catcher...




ok its a little funny

#231

18DELTA

Nov 11, 2009 10:30:07


I'm going with JD as the catcher...




I had it reversed myself.Undecided

JD is a whiny *****...so yeah, catcher would fit.Embarassed

#232

sfdragon

Nov 11, 2009 13:00:13

www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MLp7YNTznE

#233

darth_k-trava

Nov 11, 2009 16:58:03
*chortle*
#234

darth_k-trava

Nov 11, 2009 17:02:54
Worf would probably worship Tempus. And probably more on a neutral level of the axis than the chaotic.
#235

Stigger

Nov 12, 2009 4:18:47
Early stuff, I'd definitely agree with Tempus... later though, he was going with more of a Red Knight groove as he got cagier and  sneakier.
#236

shelbydapimp

Nov 14, 2009 0:09:30
lets get back on topic for a sec..

I really didn't like the way the ending of the book went however....

Athrogate and Pwent fighting as a team and cracking jokes = the WIN !!!

When they were aggravating Jarlaxle and Bruenor and Athrogate made the poem about his farting pig, I was cracking the hell up.

One thing I didn't understand is this....If Cadderly is sooo damn powerful that he can create a frickin castle out of nothing which is what he did with the Spirit Soaring, and can destroy a dracolich and all the shadow creatures by himself basically, why couldn't he heal Pikel and have his arm replaced.

At the very least he seems like he is a high enough level cleric to cast true resurrection so I think he could cast a heal spell with enough to give Pikel his arm back. After all REGENERATE is only a 7th level cleric spell.

I would love for Salvatore to do a dwarven trilogy which consists of Athrogate, Thibeldorf Pwent and Ivan and Pikel out adventuring together. At the very least I would like to see Pikel advance as a druid and see how the others advance. It would be entertaining to say the least kinda like Moe, Larry, Curley and Shemp if they were all dwarves and went adventuring.

I would also like to see a novel or story about nanfoodel the gnome from mithral hall as there are not any Gnome main characters or good gnome stories in any of the D+D worlds including DRAGONLANCE, FORGOTTEN REALMS OR EBBERRON.

I think that Salvatore needs to leave drizzt alone for a few years and come back to him with a fresh start and a few years rest from the character.

I would also like a good Wolfgar story....even though he's a Conan/Thor wanna be

#237

shelbydapimp

Nov 14, 2009 0:15:37
Hell I could even see him doing a story mid spell plague years about Caderly's kids.

After all, one of his sons is a wizard, one's a cleric and his daughter is a monk like her mom.

DRAGONLACE did a whole entire series of books about the next generation of heroes from the Chronicles heroes. It involved Caramon's son, tanis's kids and sturms kids.

I believe that Salvatore could do something like this with Cadderly's children.

If he does come back to Drizzt again, I'd like to see him and Ed Greenwood co-write a series starring Elminster and Drizzt together because if I remember right they are only 2 of a small handfull of people who survive the SPELL PLAGUE years.
#238

JudgeDookie

Nov 14, 2009 0:53:53

I am going to start calling JD and Silver the forums "Bert and Ernie".


I just wonder who is the Pitcher, and who is the Catcher in their relationship?




Watch it, bud.

You'll certainly be catching it later. ;(


I'm going with JD as the catcher...




Envious much?


www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MLp7YNTznE




Dude, I laughed my ass off when I saw this was what you linked to. Sealed

But, if you listen to the lyrics, it pretty much describes my mindset.

Unfortunately, it appears that Ozzy and I have more in common than I believed. The lyrics are correct. smiley-eatdrink004.gif
#239

sfdragon

Nov 14, 2009 3:12:03
JD took this thread on a crazy train....
#240

Stigger

Nov 14, 2009 4:20:56
Cadderly and Danica had kids?  News to me...
#241

18DELTA

Nov 14, 2009 4:30:24

I wonder what their sex life was like? Was it all prim and proper, or wild and crazy with alot of kink thrown in.Undecided

#242

Stigger

Nov 14, 2009 4:47:38
I dunno... he always struck as kind of asexual when it came down to it... which isn't that unusual for RAS' characters for me, thinking about it.
#243

shelbydapimp

Nov 14, 2009 14:22:44
Cadderly and Danica had kids?  News to me...



yes from the impression I got from the book,  his oldest son who is the wizard is like 24 or 25 years old.  his daughter and other son are 21 or 22 ish.

it is noted in the book because of the magic of the spirit soaring that Cadderly looks younger than even his children.

#244

JudgeDookie

Nov 14, 2009 18:52:32
Watch it, toots. 'Les I unleash the wrath of Bejebuz upon your ass. smiley-angry011.gif
#245

18DELTA

Nov 14, 2009 21:17:15
So you would throw rocks at a woman?Embarassed
#246

JudgeDookie

Nov 14, 2009 22:19:31
I threw a malt ball at her, you dope. Look: smiley-angry011.gif

And Bejebuz IS the Holy Taco. Where the hell you been? smiley-angry011.gif

Malt balls rock, BTW...  smiley-rolleyes007.gif
#247

18DELTA

Nov 15, 2009 1:26:34
So you are throwing "Salty Chocolate Balls" at the females again Doo-Doo?Laughing
#248

drizztsmanchild

Nov 15, 2009 2:42:44
Post
#249

sfdragon

Nov 15, 2009 2:44:18
hey DMC posted
#250

drizztsmanchild

Nov 15, 2009 2:46:02
Are you kidding Dook's all about the "Salty Balls" flavor being optional...lol On topic this book just like the others felt rushed to me...
#251

drizztsmanchild

Nov 15, 2009 2:49:46
Sfd: Yeah I finally was able to find a way to post from my phone....lol took forever......anything interesting I missed?
#252

18DELTA

Nov 15, 2009 2:55:04
Well, well, well look who we have here...
#253

sfdragon

Nov 15, 2009 3:11:38
nah, you havn't miss much, just Dookie coming back.
#254

drizztsmanchild

Nov 15, 2009 3:14:27
Lol....yeah I'm back.....not really to keen on this new update...but c'est la vie....any update on Cyric?
#255

18DELTA

Nov 15, 2009 3:21:35

Cryic SUCKS! How about that for an update...Wink 


Corellon Rules!Cool

#256

sfdragon

Nov 15, 2009 3:23:53
and DElta is about 60 some odd posts away from his 3000th post
#257

drizztsmanchild

Nov 15, 2009 3:27:05
Correllon is just Cyric's dimwitted step-child...lol
#258

18DELTA

Nov 15, 2009 3:28:38
Thats right your still in the darkness...:rollseyes:
#259

Doombringer_of_Hoar

Nov 15, 2009 5:15:07
A Cyricist Here!? Where!? Let me at them! By Hoar's! Beard I SMITE theeee!
#260

LordManshoon

Nov 15, 2009 13:41:08

Cryic SUCKS! How about that for an update... 


Corellon truly has you under his spell if he can get you to botch the name of your former master.
#261

JudgeDookie

Nov 15, 2009 16:20:42
So you are throwing "Salty Chocolate Balls" at the females again Doo-Doo?



What can I say? Chicks dig it.

Are you kidding Dook's all about the "Salty Balls" flavor being optional...lol On topic this book just like the others felt rushed to me...



Gaddammit, Drizztmanthingy--where the hell have you been?!! I've been here for a month and there's no word from you!

Myrtl ran off with my Jack again and you weren't around to stop it!! smiley-angry013.gif
#262

darth_k-trava

Nov 15, 2009 18:56:10
A Cyricist Here!? Where!? Let me at them! By Hoar's! Beard I SMITE theeee!



Let the smitin' begin!! I can't stand that bastard!!!!
#263

The_Silversword

Nov 15, 2009 19:02:31
A Cyricist Here!? Where!? Let me at them! By Hoar's! Beard I SMITE theeee!



Let the smitin' begin!! I can't stand that bastard!!!!



As far as EVIL gods go I kinda like him. I mean look and all the nasty, nasty stuff Cyric has done in just the short time hes been a god.

Bane has been a god for a while now and really what has he done? Stole the Tablets of Fate and enslaved goblins, not impressed.
#264

18DELTA

Nov 15, 2009 20:12:41
Bane brought Hoar to heel...

Used another God to return to life...

Punks Fzoul out on a daily basis...
#265

darth_k-trava

Nov 15, 2009 21:09:57
Bane brought Hoar to heel...

Used another God to return to life...

Punks Fzoul out on a daily basis...



Got his ass handed to him by a Lesser God.....

Priceless.
#266

18DELTA

Nov 15, 2009 21:18:58
Hey, I was trying to show Banes "finer" points.

Yeah, Bane blows buckets of monkey snot. Just like that idiot Cryic...
#267

darth_k-trava

Nov 15, 2009 21:51:48
Hey, I was trying to show Banes "finer" points.

Yeah, Bane blows buckets of monkey snot. Just like that idiot Cryic...



Bane has more finer points than Cyric the thievin' backstabber does. Cyric was such an a-hole to his fellow party members prior to his godhood.
#268

JudgeDookie

Nov 15, 2009 21:52:43

Bane has been a god for a while now and really what has he done? Stole the Tablets of Fate...



Which was a monumental move--one that left the Realms in utter chaos as a consequence. And lets not forget that he actually returned from the dead in a very unconventional manner. Both required a strong amount of plotting, scheming, and balls.

Bane brought Hoar to heel...

Used another God to return to life...

Punks Fzoul out on a daily basis...



And the other two points my man states here.

Got his ass handed to him by a Lesser God.....

Priceless.



Circumstances at the time--otherwise, it would not have happened.

#269

darth_k-trava

Nov 15, 2009 21:55:05
Yeah. If they both hadn't been avatars, and on Torm's "home turf", it'd have been ugly the other direction....
#270

JudgeDookie

Nov 15, 2009 22:01:58
Excuse? The other direction? smiley-think005.gif
#271

darth_k-trava

Nov 16, 2009 12:34:06
"Other direction" as in Bane winning the fight instead of Torm
#272

JudgeDookie

Nov 16, 2009 20:32:21
If they were on Torm's "home turf" it would be he with the upper hand.
#273

drizztsmanchild

Nov 16, 2009 22:20:58
Dook: Haven't been to fond of this new update...makes it harder to post with my phone like I was able to....to bad they don't have a mobile site...lol.....but nothing much....how ya been.....rule of thumb ....always have a bottle stashed in case of theiving wenches.lol To all Cyric haters..Cyric made the Gods interesting....lol...because he continuously brought his sphere's to the Gods as well as the mortals......While the rest of the boring Pantheon were to concerned with themselves and how many worshippers they had Cyric was killing Gods left and right...
#274

JudgeDookie

Nov 16, 2009 23:16:38
Dook: Haven't been to fond of this new update...makes it harder to post with my phone like I was able to....to bad they don't have a mobile site...lol.....but nothing much....how ya been.....rule of thumb ....always have a bottle stashed in case of theiving wenches.lol To all Cyric haters..Cyric made the Gods interesting....lol...because he continuously brought his sphere's to the Gods as well as the mortals......While the rest of the boring Pantheon were to concerned with themselves and how many worshippers they had Cyric was killing Gods left and right...



Eh, not fond of it myself, but hope we can change that soon. Though, I wasn't aware that you always posted with a phone--no wonder your grammer always sucked.Wink

I'm doin'--though, obviously not too well. I mean, I came back to this joint for some anusement. smiley-rolleyes007.gif

Anyways, missed you, my man. Do hope you stick around and return to full time.


#275

drizztsmanchild

Nov 16, 2009 23:17:31
Lol...BTW what other "Direction" Could the battle have gone? Both Gods were destroyed....AO chose to bring Torm back
#276

JudgeDookie

Nov 16, 2009 23:47:41
Yup. You need help.
#277

drizztsmanchild

Nov 17, 2009 0:22:05
Lol...forgive my ignorance....it has been awhile since I read the trilogy..I know what happened at the end of Tantras..with both avatars being destroyed...but I don't seem to recall Bane being more than a Shadow essence in Waterdeep.....Did he come back? Well back on topic I think its safe to say that this book solved the debate on Jarlaxles alignment..
#278

The_Silversword

Nov 17, 2009 0:33:10
Lol...forgive my ignorance....it has been awhile since I read the trilogy..I know what happened at the end of Tantras..with both avatars being destroyed...but I don't seem to recall Bane being more than a Shadow essence in Waterdeep.....Did he come back?



Nope he didnt come back, he stayed dead, until 3e. But there are some who whisper that Bane is still dead, and Iyachtu Xvim just decided to use his fathers name instead, because no one could pronounce Iyachtu right.

#279

18DELTA

Nov 17, 2009 4:04:57

Jaralxe=Chaotic Stupid...If you don't believe he has something up his sleave, well then I got ocean front property in Evereska to sell ya.Wink

#280

Matt_James

Nov 17, 2009 5:33:53

Jaralxe=Chaotic Stupid...If you don't believe he has something up his sleave, well then I got ocean front property in Evereska to sell ya.




Quoted for Emphasis
#281

18DELTA

Nov 17, 2009 8:29:39
Ha!Smile
#282

JudgeDookie

Nov 17, 2009 21:37:18
Lol...forgive my ignorance....it has been awhile since I read the trilogy..I know what happened at the end of Tantras..with both avatars being destroyed...but I don't seem to recall Bane being more than a Shadow essence in Waterdeep.....Did he come back? Well back on topic I think its safe to say that this book solved the debate on Jarlaxles alignment..



No ignorance, I just didn't get Darth_Goofy's point about "home turf".

But, yeah, consensus is that he came back. And I am sure you are aware of that, you dope. free-mad-smileys-145.gif
#283

drizztsmanchild

Nov 17, 2009 22:33:46
Dook: lol I know he is supposedly back now you toad licking turtle tapping tramp....just referring to the battle...which BTW neither avatar won...Midnight saved the day while Torm endangered the city.. 18Delta: Lol..if you're going to insult a person you should at least get the spelling of said name right! Lol.. I take it that neither one of you 2 read this book....?
#284

JudgeDookie

Nov 17, 2009 22:55:27
Dook: lol I know he is supposedly back now you toad licking turtle tapping tramp....


Only two of those are correct, you lying ****tard. Stop spreading false rumors!!

And no. That wasn't a damn malt ball this time.

....just referring to the battle...which BTW neither avatar won...Midnight saved the day while Torm endangered the city.



Do you ever pay attention? free-mad-smileys-145.gif

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And, yes, I read the book, you ninny--probably while you were still learning to potty train, but still....
#285

18DELTA

Nov 17, 2009 23:41:53
Dook: lol I know he is supposedly back now you toad licking turtle tapping tramp....just referring to the battle...which BTW neither avatar won...Midnight saved the day while Torm endangered the city.. 18Delta: Lol..if you're going to insult a person you should at least get the spelling of said name right! Lol.. I take it that neither one of you 2 read this book....?


I thought I was spelling his name right.Frown

No I haven't read the book. I doubt I will. I would prefer to get infected with the Ebola Virus, than have to read even more about Drizzit...Wink
#286

sfdragon

Nov 18, 2009 0:09:27
take it to pm please......

its so lame
#287

drizztsmanchild

Nov 18, 2009 2:49:48
Dook: The "reading" reference wasn't direscted at you..lol my bad....it was to the one who "quoted" 18Delta. 18 Delta: its Jarlaxle...just for future notes....BTW to all: I have to use that little "html" option to post here which doesn't account for proper grammar and what not....so if it seems like a continuous run-on sentence that is the reason....I so wish WoTC would give up this exp. And go back to the way it was..*sigh*(Btw can't do smilies either.lol)
#288

Stigger

Nov 18, 2009 7:36:28
take it to pm please......

its so lame



QFT
#289

DoctorBadWolf

Dec 18, 2009 19:12:52

Praise Torm




motha funk Torm.

Seriously.

The only good thing about Torm is that he creates opportunities for situations where both the protagonists and antagonists are good aligned. Mostly with servants of Torm as the antagonists, dying painfully.

Speaking of gods.

Mask.

I miss Mask almost as much as I miss Shaundakul.

Has there been anything on what happened to Shaundakul?

Also, did Mask really  let Shar absorb him to regain her full divinity?
really?

Sounds more like the kind of thing he'd pretend to do.


*twitch*


*twitchtwitch*


Corellon, may your grace grant me the strength and self-control to not simply kill them all.




You're being too sentimental. The world would be better without them. Go ahead, kill them all. They deserve it. :P
#290

sebiale

Jan 03, 2010 15:36:23
@OP
I had no issues with the book, or any of Salvatore's books really.
It would be disappointing place to end the series, but I think Salvatore will bring out a few more at least. I at least want to see how Drizzt's new attitude will play out.