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What caused the Crown Wars?

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#1
creyzi4zb12
Mar 30, 2008 7:05:22 Hello, it's me again. I need help so I made a thread.
Need info. about what was the cause of Crown Wars. They say that Crown Wars came older than the Netheril itself.
#2
Stigger
Mar 30, 2008 7:57:02 Umm... just a tiny bit before Netheril...

As to what caused it, that's easy... evil gold elf (redundant I know) aggression and greed directed at their peaceful neighbors. ;)
#3
Khaelieth
Mar 30, 2008 9:03:40 Human propaganda!
#4
Stigger
Mar 30, 2008 10:12:06 Indeed... so I suppose that those poor innocent Aryvandaarans (or however that's spelled) took their army for a walk and their neighbors just took it the wrong way? :P
#5
sfdragon
Mar 30, 2008 13:36:57 aryvaandar,(mispelled) arrogant sun elves started it, they caused all kinds of atrocities through out all 5 of them.

during the meatings of the elven court, it was decided that the aryvandaar was to blame and their head clan was put to the sword.( rumors stat that 4 sons escaped)

also during this time the elven court stated that the ilthiri commited atrocities that made the former look tame, and do to high magic cursed them into becoming daerow(mispelled) which in turned became corrupted itno the word drow.

and to this date, betrayer still fits

what does it mean to be drow, it means fight dirty
#6
Khaelieth
Mar 30, 2008 16:15:57
Indeed... so I suppose that those poor innocent Aryvandaarans (or however that's spelled) took their army for a walk and their neighbors just took it the wrong way? :P

Exactly! Finally a human's understood it! They just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time!
#7
thinblade
Mar 30, 2008 17:15:48 Umm... way, way, WAY before Netheril, actually.

Check out the 2e sourcebook Cormanthyr (I think it's available for free on the WotC downloads page), it has all the information you need.
#8
lord_karsus
Mar 30, 2008 19:31:46 -Which Crown War? There were five of them. Each one was sparked for a different reason.

-That said, information on the Crown Wars can primarily be found in Lost Empires of Faerûn, and Elves of Faerûn.
#9
markustay63
Mar 31, 2008 0:29:19 Elven Hubris.

Thats the answer for ALL of them. ;)
#10
lord_karsus
Mar 31, 2008 0:49:51

#11
sfdragon
Apr 01, 2008 3:48:30 or was it sun elven hubris
#12
fabius_maximus
Apr 01, 2008 8:57:47
Elven Hubris.

Thats the answer for ALL of them. ;)

Well, that's about the only reason that sparked every catastrophe in the Realms. And if it wasn't them, it was the gods.

Elves shouldn't be allowed to play with High magic.
#13
thinblade
Apr 01, 2008 10:07:02 Oh, I don't know. I think the Imaskari and Netherese have more than proven that humans are just as capable of screwing up on a truly awe-inspiring scope.

Maybe we should give magic to the gnomes...
#14
sfdragon
Apr 01, 2008 11:45:37 oh heck no, if we gave magic to the gnomes, there would be gno magic

and all those contraptions of theirs would wreck havok over faerun.

btw i dont think it was over high magic
#15
thinblade
Apr 01, 2008 11:54:14 "I'm a g-nome. How do you do? I wish I could g-nash my teeth at you..."

I love the Muppet Show (and Flanders and Swan).
#16
lord_karsus
Apr 01, 2008 14:44:04
oh heck no, if we gave magic to the gnomes, there would be gno magic

#17
fabius_maximus
Apr 01, 2008 16:04:50
Oh, I don't know. I think the Imaskari and Netherese have more than proven that humans are just as capable of screwing up on a truly awe-inspiring scope.

Maybe we should give magic to the gnomes...

Nah, they only destroyed themselves slowly. There were never such gaint catastrophes like the Dark Disaster or the Sundering.
#18
markustay63
Apr 02, 2008 1:54:39 Yup, good old Elven magic, and how it 'takes care of' nature. ;)
#19
lord_karsus
Apr 02, 2008 3:12:41
Yup, good old Elven magic, and how it 'takes care of' nature. ;)

-Who says that Elven High Magic is intended to somehow 'take care of' nature? If you mean 'take care of' as in 'beat up', then you are partially correct. Rituals like The Killing Storm certainly aren't beneficial for nature.
#20
zanan
Apr 02, 2008 7:26:11 To the thread creator:

Download Cormanthyr - Empire of Elves here ...

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dnd/downloads

... and read all about it.
#21
EytanBernstein
Apr 02, 2008 19:22:57 Gremlins.
#22
Khaelieth
Apr 02, 2008 19:48:27
Gremlins.

Stripe wielded High Magic of epic proportions.
#23
lord_karsus
Apr 02, 2008 22:37:36
Gremlins.

-Did you just violate a NDA, and just slip a 4e retcon? :P
#24
Stigger
Apr 03, 2008 5:34:15 Don't say things like that... it might give them ideas of what we're willing to take.
#25
lord_karsus
Apr 03, 2008 11:26:19
Don't say things like that... it might give them ideas of what we're willing to take.

-No one's listening, it's okay.
#26
Stigger
Apr 03, 2008 17:51:42 You've got a definite point there really...
#27
lord_karsus
Apr 03, 2008 22:16:19 -Heh...
#28
eilistraeeeee
Apr 29, 2008 7:59:48 Gremlins are bad.. They could create a Spellplague, had they had spells.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 creyzi4zb12 Mar 30, 2008 7:05:22	Hello, it's me again. I need help so I made a thread. Need info. about what was the cause of Crown Wars. They say that Crown Wars came older than the Netheril itself.
#2 Stigger Mar 30, 2008 7:57:02	Umm... just a tiny bit before Netheril... As to what caused it, that's easy... evil gold elf (redundant I know) aggression and greed directed at their peaceful neighbors. ;)
#3 Khaelieth Mar 30, 2008 9:03:40	Human propaganda!
#4 Stigger Mar 30, 2008 10:12:06	Indeed... so I suppose that those poor innocent Aryvandaarans (or however that's spelled) took their army for a walk and their neighbors just took it the wrong way? :P
#5 sfdragon Mar 30, 2008 13:36:57	aryvaandar,(mispelled) arrogant sun elves started it, they caused all kinds of atrocities through out all 5 of them. during the meatings of the elven court, it was decided that the aryvandaar was to blame and their head clan was put to the sword.( rumors stat that 4 sons escaped) also during this time the elven court stated that the ilthiri commited atrocities that made the former look tame, and do to high magic cursed them into becoming daerow(mispelled) which in turned became corrupted itno the word drow. and to this date, betrayer still fits what does it mean to be drow, it means fight dirty
#6 Khaelieth Mar 30, 2008 16:15:57	Indeed... so I suppose that those poor innocent Aryvandaarans (or however that's spelled) took their army for a walk and their neighbors just took it the wrong way? :P Exactly! Finally a human's understood it! They just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time!
#7 thinblade Mar 30, 2008 17:15:48	Umm... way, way, WAY before Netheril, actually. Check out the 2e sourcebook Cormanthyr (I think it's available for free on the WotC downloads page), it has all the information you need.
#8 lord_karsus Mar 30, 2008 19:31:46	-Which Crown War? There were five of them. Each one was sparked for a different reason. -That said, information on the Crown Wars can primarily be found in Lost Empires of Faerûn, and Elves of Faerûn.
#9 markustay63 Mar 31, 2008 0:29:19	Elven Hubris. Thats the answer for ALL of them. ;)
#10 lord_karsus Mar 31, 2008 0:49:51
#11 sfdragon Apr 01, 2008 3:48:30	or was it sun elven hubris
#12 fabius_maximus Apr 01, 2008 8:57:47	Elven Hubris. Thats the answer for ALL of them. ;) Well, that's about the only reason that sparked every catastrophe in the Realms. And if it wasn't them, it was the gods. Elves shouldn't be allowed to play with High magic.
#13 thinblade Apr 01, 2008 10:07:02	Oh, I don't know. I think the Imaskari and Netherese have more than proven that humans are just as capable of screwing up on a truly awe-inspiring scope. Maybe we should give magic to the gnomes...
#14 sfdragon Apr 01, 2008 11:45:37	oh heck no, if we gave magic to the gnomes, there would be gno magic and all those contraptions of theirs would wreck havok over faerun. btw i dont think it was over high magic
#15 thinblade Apr 01, 2008 11:54:14	"I'm a g-nome. How do you do? I wish I could g-nash my teeth at you..." I love the Muppet Show (and Flanders and Swan).
#16 lord_karsus Apr 01, 2008 14:44:04	oh heck no, if we gave magic to the gnomes, there would be gno magic
#17 fabius_maximus Apr 01, 2008 16:04:50	Oh, I don't know. I think the Imaskari and Netherese have more than proven that humans are just as capable of screwing up on a truly awe-inspiring scope. Maybe we should give magic to the gnomes... Nah, they only destroyed themselves slowly. There were never such gaint catastrophes like the Dark Disaster or the Sundering.
#18 markustay63 Apr 02, 2008 1:54:39	Yup, good old Elven magic, and how it 'takes care of' nature. ;)
#19 lord_karsus Apr 02, 2008 3:12:41	Yup, good old Elven magic, and how it 'takes care of' nature. ;) -Who says that Elven High Magic is intended to somehow 'take care of' nature? If you mean 'take care of' as in 'beat up', then you are partially correct. Rituals like The Killing Storm certainly aren't beneficial for nature.
#20 zanan Apr 02, 2008 7:26:11	To the thread creator: Download Cormanthyr - Empire of Elves here ... http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dnd/downloads ... and read all about it.
#21 EytanBernstein Apr 02, 2008 19:22:57	Gremlins.
#22 Khaelieth Apr 02, 2008 19:48:27	Gremlins. Stripe wielded High Magic of epic proportions.
#23 lord_karsus Apr 02, 2008 22:37:36	Gremlins. -Did you just violate a NDA, and just slip a 4e retcon? :P
#24 Stigger Apr 03, 2008 5:34:15	Don't say things like that... it might give them ideas of what we're willing to take.
#25 lord_karsus Apr 03, 2008 11:26:19	Don't say things like that... it might give them ideas of what we're willing to take. -No one's listening, it's okay.
#26 Stigger Apr 03, 2008 17:51:42	You've got a definite point there really...
#27 lord_karsus Apr 03, 2008 22:16:19	-Heh...
#28 eilistraeeeee Apr 29, 2008 7:59:48	Gremlins are bad.. They could create a Spellplague, had they had spells.