And where can I read about it?
-Khelben7
-We don't have specific locations, but I believe Eric Boyd stated that the Dwarven deities were in avatars scattered around Citadel Adbar, Citadel Felbar, The Earthfast Mountains, and the Great Rift.
Do you know where excactly this information can be found? If Moradin was in a specific Citadel and what he was doing - that would be a cool thing to plot into my campaign.
Sucks, but....
Two dwarven deities we know about:
* Clangeddin fought with Labelas on Ruathym, seen in the FR comics series. His avatar was three dwarves in a gigantic earth elemental.
* Deep Duerra arrived in Dunspierrin, as the Queen Mother, and she started some wars against dwarves and drow.
I think the dwarven deities were wise and patient enough not to screw around too much, and just waited the whole mess out - unlike the human and elven deities. ;)
-We don't have specific locations, but I believe Eric Boyd stated that the Dwarven deities were in avatars scattered around Citadel Adbar, Citadel Felbar, The Earthfast Mountains, and the Great Rift.
Just curious, but is there a reference for that? I was wondering if it was in a sourcebook, or just off the record?
-THISlisting cites Eric Boyd, which I assume stems from a Candlekeep-like Q&A session(s) somewhere.
Thx Lord Karsus. That is a very useful page to say the very least. One thing though, besides the fact that I didn't come any closer to Moradin or what the Dwarf Gods were doing during ToT, wasn't Tempus present at a great battle in the Dales during that time?
-Khelben
Just curious, but is there a reference for that? I was wondering if it was in a sourcebook, or just off the record?
Even before LK's list hit the scene, that was well know. And, not just on where it pertained to dwarven deities, but with all deities. When the gods were cast down, they all (or at least the large majority) descended to a place on Toril where a power base resided for their faith.
Thx Lord Karsus. That is a very useful page to say the very least. One thing though, besides the fact that I didn't come any closer to Moradin or what the Dwarf Gods were doing during ToT...
Well, you've reached a real 3e/4e debacle. You want the info or do you want to make it up for yourself? ;)
You can pretty much do anything you want as long as it doesn't disrupt the time-space continuum.
I think the FRCS(3.5) mentions something like that in passing.. couldn't give you a page or anything though, but I DO recall reading abotu Tempus fighitng in the Dalelands
I believe it was recorded that he was "spotted" in the Dalelands. I don't recall him ever participating in anything.
Well, you've reached a real 3e/4e debacle. You want the info or do you want to make it up for yourself? ;)
I'm a bit of a history nerd and wants to get it right, but if nothing exists I might have Moradin turn up in Mithral Hall if it fits the timeline. When was it attacked by the Drow?
-Khelben
As far as I remember, it was attacked by the drow right before the TOT. But....
Drizztmanthingy!!! I need a scholar check here, you lazy pancake flippin' fairy!
The war took place after ToT
No god showed up at Mithral hall during ToT, but Fret did show up to explain what was happening and to help fix Guen
And Bane and Torm killed each other near Tantras (as MT stated) causing Midnight to have to ring the Bell of Attricus(spell) to protect the city.
There happy now
you mushroom humping fungoid.Mithral hall being raided after the ToT seems cool enough as the Players will be high level then and can combat the Drow, Driders, Mind Flayers etc from the Underdark.
What does this mean:
No god showed up at Mithral hall during ToT, but Fret did show up to explain what was happening and to help fix Guen
And did this happen in MH?
-Khelben
All took place within Mithral Hall before the drow invasion.
As of yet there has been No mention of Moradin or any other of the dwarven pantheon near or in Mithral Hall. So if you're a true history buff I would have them encounter. The god somewhere outside Mithral Hall.
Maybe they can meet Moradin in another DwarfStronghold in vicinity and then he can direct them to the defence of Mithral Hall..
-Khelben
There happy now
I called you in for knowledge, not attitude, you frog humping mutt.
Go find a laptop with wi-fi and lock yourself in the bathroom for a few minutes. Come out when relaxed.
Thx Drizztsmanchild. Very informative. What book does it take place in?
Maybe they can meet Moradin in another DwarfStronghold in vicinity and then he can direct them to the defence of Mithral Hall..
Personally, my man, I don't see any problem with this taking place after the TOT. Use Drizztmanthingy's background reference on the Seige of Darkness and roll with it. Have them be part of the battle and have some tunnels collapse, separating them from the rest of the clan. They end up being the only ones that can do something to save the battle (which nobody else even knows about, nor realized) and Moradin shows up to alert them before all of Mithral Hall comes down. It's not hard, just wiggle the adventure in--it does nothing against cannon.
That was Bruenor's great, GREAT Grand-Pappy.
Gandalaug, or something. Again, Drizztmanthingy's silly a$$ needs to come in and correct things.
Why? LK and MT got it right. I'm just adding the story to it
Gandalug is the patron of clan Battlehammer and had passed the crown onto his son and went on his last trek. During that "death hike"(He left Mithral to die in battle as he was old by then) he and a preist met up with a young(?) Yvonnel Baerne and after short battle Gandalug and the priest were slain. But before his soul moved on Yvonnel used her magic and trapped it in his tooth and kept him that way until the ToT when the magical chaos released him.
as other said dwarf was a pwent, Thimpedorf's great ancestor from that time.
spiky armor and all
Sfdragon: you were right it was Crommower Pwent a battlerager
-As if one wasn't enough. "Now there are two of them!"
"He pwent that way!"
-As if one wasn't enough. "Now there are two of them!"
if thats so, thean I'm a bearded Gnome.
T. PWent is 100 years dead, and C. Pwent is 4000+ years deader.
Why? LK and MT got it right. I'm just adding the story to it
Gandalug is the patron of clan Battlehammer and had passed the crown onto his son and went on his last trek. During that "death hike"(He left Mithral to die in battle as he was old by then) he and a preist met up with a young(?) Yvonnel Baerne and after short battle Gandalug and the priest were slain. But before his soul moved on Yvonnel used her magic and trapped it in his tooth and kept him that way until the ToT when the magical chaos released him.
Per LK, it was about spelling--I didn't need a CENSORED monologue, my man. Bejebuz!
-As if one wasn't enough. "Now there are two of them!"
Have we not heard of the Gutbuster Brigade?
Sfd You sure about those dates?
I'm positve that it's around 2 thousand years.JD I think LK meant 2 Pwent's
Actually, I don't think the confusion began with LK--still trying to piece together what you and SFD were relating back and forth on. Wasn't the Pwent and Battlehammer lines long associated? Didn't Breunor originally groan at his association with Thibbledorf when he first showed up?
But the two family names were there as well.