I must say i liked the 4th edition, but what happened to the good NPCs that we loved?
Wheres Drizzt, Simbul, Storm Siverhand, and evil ones like Artemis Entrery?
Why they did it?
Im really sad with what ive got with campaign book
I bought campaign guide but something very strange i found is there is no Drizzt references in the book.
I must say i liked the 4th edition, but what happened to the good NPCs that we loved?
Wheres Drizzt, Simbul, Storm Siverhand, and evil ones like Artemis Entrery?
Why they did it?
Im really sad with what ive got with campaign book
The question is R.A.Salvatore finished writing books that have Drizz't in them. If he is not, WotC would be stepping on his toes and possible be altering his vision of his characters and other writers characters.
The question is R.A.Salvatore finished writing books that have Drizz't in them. If he is not, WotC would be stepping on his toes and possible be altering his vision of his characters and other writers characters.
Salvatore is still writing about Drizzt (see the transition trilogy).
But here, a generic drow two weapon ranger. I hear he's an outcast of his society because he rebels against the evil matriarchal system that promotes backstabbing. He carries two scimitars and has a figurine that turns into a goat call "getoverhere"..
*vomits up Drizzt clone*
Blah...
I hope he kills drizzt soon. I wanna see a new hero archtype, a dire flail wielding merchant prince training to be a wizard.
He was great, had a big pit BBQ with some trolls.
But here, a generic drow two weapon ranger. I hear he's an outcast of his society because he rebels against the evil matriarchal system that promotes backstabbing. He carries two scimitars and has a figurine that turns into a goat call "getoverhere"..
*vomits up Drizzt clone*
Blah...
I hope he kills drizzt soon. I wanna see a new hero archtype, a dire flail wielding merchant prince training to be a wizard.
Try reading "Mistshore", by Jaleigh Johnson. I am half way through it, so far I am impressed with it.
Drizzt is now your average ordinary drow. All drow are G rangers striving to overthrow their chaotic evil brethren.
"But didn't you just say they're all G?" /oots
-Drizzt is a Ranger in the north, fighting in support of the Kingdom of Many-Arrows, against Human/Elven bigots, when last we saw him, in The Orc King.
he is in his novel series...far from my games...living or otherwise...
PS now that I said that I am going to get a living mod with him init...then my brain will explode...
he is in his novel series...far from my games...living or otherwise...
PS now that I said that I am going to get a living mod with him init...then my brain will explode...
Just think, you can kill him if he's got stats!
Because if he's the original, it's kind of like calling Tolkein generic.
Please also never play:
A half elven ranger with a bow
A brooding mage with a thirst for power and a twin brother
The twin who is the dumb one but strong as an ox.
A knight with a greatsword
An eladrin female warlord with a spear
A human ranger with an epic destiny to lead men
An elven ranger who uses both bow AND two scimitars
A dwarf with a two handed axe whos loveable yet gruff with his elf friend.
An old dwarf with a heart condition
A fat rogue who happens to be a good guy.
A human mage with a staff and a hidden agenda
A halfling rogue with a childlike demeanor always getting himself into trouble and cares for his friends
A human mage/fighter who happens to be the reincarnation of another man.
A human warlord who doesn't wear bulky armor, uses a pole arm, and is a scoundrel
A human ranger/warlord with a one handed axe who has wolf animal companions and who originally just wanted to be a blacksmith
A halfling with a ring
A halfling who's friend has a ring
A halfling who found a ring
An old wizard who has a snarky sense of humor yet everyone respects him
A human barbarian with a maul
A dwarven warrior with an axe and only one horn left on his helm
An effeminate vampire who tries so hard not to eat humans and is in love with a mortal
A half vampire who slays the undead....with a katana
A warforged from a different time period
A human barbarian with a sword who lovingly protects his wife
The wife, a human female cleric trying to spread the word of the true gods.
An older human bard who juggles, tumbles, and plays the harp and flute, yet is involved in political intrigue
A samauri who refuses to kill anymore and uses a subdual katana
Please. Only original ideas.
Anything less than the best is a felony.
Oh. Don't play a washed up human bard who is trying out "gangsta" ballads to gain the commonfolks approval.
Yeah, how dare people play a dark elf ranger with two scimitars.
Please also never play:
A half elven ranger with a bow
A brooding mage with a thirst for power and a twin brother
The twin who is the dumb one but strong as an ox.
A knight with a greatsword
An eladrin female warlord with a spear
A human ranger with an epic destiny to lead men
An elven ranger who uses both bow AND two scimitars
A dwarf with a two handed axe whos loveable yet gruff with his elf friend.
An old dwarf with a heart condition
A fat rogue who happens to be a good guy.
A human mage with a staff and a hidden agenda
A halfling rogue with a childlike demeanor always getting himself into trouble and cares for his friends
A human mage/fighter who happens to be the reincarnation of another man.
A human warlord who doesn't wear bulky armor, uses a pole arm, and is a scoundrel
A human ranger/warlord with a one handed axe who has wolf animal companions and who originally just wanted to be a blacksmith
A halfling with a ring
A halfling who's friend has a ring
A halfling who found a ring
An old wizard who has a snarky sense of humor yet everyone respects him
A human barbarian with a maul
A dwarven warrior with an axe and only one horn left on his helm
An effeminate vampire who tries so hard not to eat humans and is in love with a mortal
A half vampire who slays the undead....with a katana
A warforged from a different time period
A human barbarian with a sword who lovingly protects his wife
The wife, a human female cleric trying to spread the word of the true gods.
An older human bard who juggles, tumbles, and plays the harp and flute, yet is involved in political intrigue
A samauri who refuses to kill anymore and uses a subdual katana
Please. Only original ideas.
Anything less than the best is a felony.
Oh. Don't play a washed up human bard who is trying out "gangsta" ballads to gain the commonfolks approval.
There is a difference between using another character from stories/fantasy as the basis for your character and making a complete clone of a famous character who has already been cloned to death. D&D isn't the only game that is plagued by Drizzt clones.
I don't think there is a difference. I think they all begin as clones and over time, they just become archetypes. The bow wielding elven ranger had to come from somewhere.
This. I like Drizzt, i grew up reading Drizzt, as a young and extremely nerdy black man from detroit who was not expected to do uncool things like play RPG's and listen to rock music i identified with Drizzt. Drizzt was MY iconic action hero, and on top of that i don't think he was a badly-written, ill-conceived character. Hes become the originator of an archtype to me, and i happily admit that i've taken the concept with other characters and used it for my own enjoyment and storytelling purposes. The same goes for Goku, Frodo Baggins (who i totally can sympathize with), Spider-Man, Naruto, and Cloud Strife.
So leave my favorite characters alone. just because you hate them is no reason to make their entire archtype 'cliche' or 'too lame for serious players', or to ridicule someone who enjoys playing them.
Oh yeah, i almost forgot: Alucard (Symphony of the Night Alucard). Alucard rocks.
I have a feeling, though, that if 3.5 D&D had existed, say, in the early 80's , and OOtS, we'd be seeing a lot of characters being made fun of.
With Driz'zt, he was the first original character created in a long time. Sure, people starting hopping on that train in abundance, but given the circumstances, if the Giant had made the joke about any of the previously made characters, it would have been a dated joke, gotten only by a select few in an already relatively small group.
As a comic writer, i dont think he would have wanted to do that.
BTW, The Simbul is in the dalelands now caring for Elminster. To answer one of the questions
Yeah, how dare people play a dark elf ranger with two scimitars.
Please also never play:
A half elven ranger with a bow
A brooding mage with a thirst for power and a twin brother
The twin who is the dumb one but strong as an ox.
A knight with a greatsword
An eladrin female warlord with a spear
A human ranger with an epic destiny to lead men
An elven ranger who uses both bow AND two scimitars
A dwarf with a two handed axe whos loveable yet gruff with his elf friend.
An old dwarf with a heart condition
A fat rogue who happens to be a good guy.
A human mage with a staff and a hidden agenda
A halfling rogue with a childlike demeanor always getting himself into trouble and cares for his friends
A human mage/fighter who happens to be the reincarnation of another man.
A human warlord who doesn't wear bulky armor, uses a pole arm, and is a scoundrel
A human ranger/warlord with a one handed axe who has wolf animal companions and who originally just wanted to be a blacksmith
A halfling with a ring
A halfling who's friend has a ring
A halfling who found a ring
An old wizard who has a snarky sense of humor yet everyone respects him
A human barbarian with a maul
A dwarven warrior with an axe and only one horn left on his helm
An effeminate vampire who tries so hard not to eat humans and is in love with a mortal
A half vampire who slays the undead....with a katana
A warforged from a different time period
A human barbarian with a sword who lovingly protects his wife
The wife, a human female cleric trying to spread the word of the true gods.
An older human bard who juggles, tumbles, and plays the harp and flute, yet is involved in political intrigue
A samauri who refuses to kill anymore and uses a subdual katana
Please. Only original ideas.
Anything less than the best is a felony.
Oh. Don't play a washed up human bard who is trying out "gangsta" ballads to gain the commonfolks approval.
Omg... I laughed at this so hard as I read it. Its going in my sig.
And maul fighting barbarians.
I think we may have a surge of supporting cast "clones"
Omg... I laughed at this so hard as I read it.
You and me both.
Drizzt is still cloned far too often. Why not make your own, far more original concept for a good drow?
Charles Middlebrook, a Drow Bard, was sent to infiltrate a surface community using his knack for magical disguise. Obviously Charles isn't his real name, but it was a human community, and something about a name with three Z's, four R's, and seven apostrophes made humans suspicious, hence the pseudonym.
The intent was for Charles to scout the place out, spot the weaknesses in their defenses, and maybe perform a bit of sabotage if he saw an opportunity. Sow discord, upset the order of things, turn people against their neighbors, and otherwise soften them up for his house to raid them for slaves, territory, and delicious cattle.
Unfortunately, as is often the case with the brutal nature of Drow politics, there was a "regime change" involving the leader of his house, a traitorous lieutenant, and roughly twice the leader's body weight in Monstrous Scorpion Venom applied directly to the small of his back. By multiple crossbow bolts.
Record of Charles's little mission had been lost in the shuffle. Essentially stranded deep in enemy territory, he went native. "Went Native" here meaning that instead of acting like a Drow, he acts like a Bard. Surprisingly enough, when done well, there is very little difference between the two.
There is a difference between using another character from stories/fantasy as the basis for your character and making a complete clone of a famous character who has already been cloned to death. D&D isn't the only game that is plagued by Drizzt clones.
It's sad, though, when any surface-dwelling good/neutral drow gets pegged as a "Drizzt Clone".
I bought campaign guide but something very strange i found is there is no Drizzt references in the book.
I must say i liked the 4th edition, but what happened to the good NPCs that we loved?
Wheres Drizzt, Simbul, Storm Siverhand, and evil ones like Artemis Entrery?
Why they did it?
Im really sad with what ive got with campaign book
The Campaign Guide is primarily intended to be a resource for creating a D&D Campaign set in the Forgotten Realms. The majority of the information contained therein is intended to be a creative starting point for a Dungeon Master to create their campaign within the setting, rather than a compendium of persons of past and present. The bulk of the focus is prioritized on on information critical to adventurers and adventuring (points of light, adventure sites, adventure seeds, enemies and threats, treasure, etc). The fate of individuals who once ruled realms or wielded great power are occasionally mentioned, as history would hold them first in prominence. Likewise, individuals who rule realms today, who threaten the world, or who can serve as allies or patrons to the PCs are mentioned as well. However the ambiguity of information regarding persons of the past and the present is intentional--not only to prevent the book from being overburdened with information of limited use, but also to enable DMs to fill in those ambiguities with their own vision of the realms.
To be clear, ambiguity on the fate of individual NPCs is a good thing for DMs and players who liked many of the prominent individuals of the past, because it allows them to find ways to bring them into the backdrop of their campaign, or to leave legacies behind for the PCs or their enemies to seek out or exploit.
As for the specific individuals you named and their circumstances in the Year of the Ageless Ones (1479 DR), much of that information can be gleaned from the Campaign Setting, recent novels, or other forms of lore. Beyond that it is up to the DM to decide the fate of an individual NPC.
Drizzt Do’Urden is still alive and well. Much of the information on him can be found in the prologue of the novel The Orc King. Further lore pertaining to Drizzt, his history, deeds, allies, enemies, and others can be found in the Reader’s Guide to the Legend of Drizzt. Given the substantial abundance of lore and fiction devoted to him, the Campaign Guide did not really need to elaborate further on him. He is noted in the history of the Kingdom of Many Arrows, regarding his battle with the original King Obould.
The truth of the Simbul’s fate is detailed in the Campaign Guide. Meanwhile common rumors, hints, and folk-beliefs on what became of her are covered in the Player’s Guide, since discovering the truth about her fate is one of the motivations for characters from Aglarond. In addition, wizard characters who wish to follow in her example can learn many of the spells and powers she wielded by taking the Simbarch of Aglarond paragon path, and arcane characters of any class can master a healing ritual of her devising in the same book.
Storm Silverhand is mentioned in the Dalelands section under Shadowdale, and only so far as to say that the dale is still strong even in the absence of protectors of old such as she. The precise details of her absence, and what has caused it, are entirely up to the DM to determine. Given the way the authors handled the fate of many of the other Seven Sisters, perhaps it is better left to the DM to determine the details her fate or her role in the new era of Faerûn.
As far as Artemis Entreri is concerned, it has largely been left up to R.A. Salvatore to reveal the rest of his tale, or simply leave his fate to the obscurity of history.
Artenis was probably died of old age. I mean 100 hundred years is a long time for a human.
-As established in R.A. Salvatore's short story in Realms of Shadow, "That Curious Sword", Artemis Entreri is no longer 100% Human.
-As established in R.A. Salvatore's short story in Realms of Shadow, "That Curious Sword", Artemis Entreri is no longer 100% Human.
Which totally reeks of the next big trend syndrome, ooohh I know, my mary sue will now be a shade.
"Went Native" here meaning that instead of acting like a Drow, he acts like a Bard. Surprisingly enough, when done well, there is very little difference between the two.
Your bards are power-hungry megalomaniacs with no moral values whatsoever who happily abuse/murder anyone if they are irked with them/can get something out of it and can get away with it? Nice.
Not saying all my drow are like that, but that's what I consider the "typical" drow NPCs to be like. Then again, few adventurers are known for their scruples, so you may actually have a point ;)
-As established in R.A. Salvatore's short story in Realms of Shadow, "That Curious Sword", Artemis Entreri is no longer 100% Human.
I hadn't tread that one... Hmm.. then we if probably still alive.
Which totally reeks of the next big trend syndrome, ooohh I know, my mary sue will now be a shade.
-Whatever you say.
I hadn't tread that one... Hmm.. then we if probably still alive.
-One of it's effects was Entreri feeling rejuvenated in his old age, so it has likely expanded his lifespan some.
Your bards are power-hungry megalomaniacs with no moral values whatsoever who happily abuse/murder anyone if they are irked with them/can get something out of it and can get away with it? Nice.
I was rather puzzled by the "bards are like drow" comment, myself.
A half elven ranger with a bow
Tanis Half-Elven.
A brooding mage with a thirst for power and a twin brother
Raistlin.
The twin who is the dumb one but strong as an ox.
Caramon.
A knight with a greatsword
Sturm Brightblade.
An eladrin female warlord with a spear
Laurana.
A human ranger with an epic destiny to lead men
Aragorn.
An elven ranger who uses both bow AND two scimitars
?
A dwarf with a two handed axe whos loveable yet gruff with his elf friend.
Gimli.
An old dwarf with a heart condition
?
A fat rogue who happens to be a good guy.
?
A human mage with a staff and a hidden agenda
I'd guess, but I could list 20 different names and still be right.
A halfling rogue with a childlike demeanor always getting himself into trouble and cares for his friends
?
A human mage/fighter who happens to be the reincarnation of another man.
?
A human warlord who doesn't wear bulky armor, uses a pole arm, and is a scoundrel
?
A human ranger/warlord with a one handed axe who has wolf animal companions and who originally just wanted to be a blacksmith
?
A halfling with a ring
Frodo.
A halfling who's friend has a ring
Samwise.
A halfling who found a ring
Bilbo.
An old wizard who has a snarky sense of humor yet everyone respects him
Again? Didn't this one already pop up? :P
A human barbarian with a maul
Wulfgar?
A dwarven warrior with an axe and only one horn left on his helm
I just know it's that Dragonlance dwarf.
An effeminate vampire who tries so hard not to eat humans and is in love with a mortal
Crap, we're in swing a dead cat territory again. Jander Sunstar?
A half vampire who slays the undead....with a katana
D.
A warforged from a different time period
No clue.
A human barbarian with a sword who lovingly protects his wife
Riverwind?
The wife, a human female cleric trying to spread the word of the true gods.
Goldmoon.
An older human bard who juggles, tumbles, and plays the harp and flute, yet is involved in political intrigue
No idea.
A samauri who refuses to kill anymore and uses a subdual katana
?
So did I get any wrong? And who're the rest?
Can someone confirm or at least explain what has happened to them?
Shouldn't cattie brie and wulfgar be dead? Considering the time line has advanced 100 years...
Can someone confirm or at least explain what has happened to them?
I don't think anything's been explicitly stated about them yet.
Shouldn't cattie brie and wulfgar be dead? Considering the time line has advanced 100 years...
-In theory, yes. But, we shall see, since nothing stating that they are dead has been written. As evidenced by plenty of examples in Sci-Fi/Fantasy, "Unless the body is present..."
I'm going to scream if I ever see another PC drow ranger with the same lame backgroundstory
Gawd... I hope ALL of his ridiculous dwarves are dead. What a bunch of clowns...
A samurai who refuses to kill anymore and uses a subdual katana
?
That is Kenshin from the Rurouni Kenshin manga/anime series, though I don't think he was ever a samurai in terms of his social class. One of my favourite series, that - even though the anime was dumbed down.
This. I like Drizzt, i grew up reading Drizzt, as a young and extremely nerdy black man from detroit who was not expected to do uncool things like play RPG's and listen to rock music i identified with Drizzt.
Rock music uncool? Somewhere out there Dee Snider is crying.
Ok, so who're all these people? I can guess a few, but the rest?
An old dwarf with a heart condition
Flint Fireforge.
A fat rogue who happens to be a good guy.
Regis?
A human mage with a staff and a hidden agenda
Every wizard.......ever.
A halfling rogue with a childlike demeanor always getting himself into trouble and cares for his friends
Tasslehoff
A human mage/fighter who happens to be the reincarnation of another man.
Elric?
A human warlord who doesn't wear bulky armor, uses a pole arm, and is a scoundrel
Mat Cauthon
A human ranger/warlord with a one handed axe who has wolf animal companions and who originally just wanted to be a blacksmith
Perin
A dwarven warrior with an axe and only one horn left on his helm
Actually, this would be Bruenor Battlehammer.
The rest? IDK.
Gawd... I hope ALL of his ridiculous dwarves are dead. What a bunch of clowns...
-Too many of them, unfortunately, are hard to take seriously.
Yeah, how dare people play a dark elf ranger with two scimitars.
Please also never play:
A half elven ranger with a bow
A brooding mage with a thirst for power and a twin brother
The twin who is the dumb one but strong as an ox.
A knight with a greatsword
An eladrin female warlord with a spear
A human ranger with an epic destiny to lead men
An elven ranger who uses both bow AND two scimitars
A dwarf with a two handed axe whos loveable yet gruff with his elf friend.
An old dwarf with a heart condition
A fat rogue who happens to be a good guy.
A human mage with a staff and a hidden agenda
A halfling rogue with a childlike demeanor always getting himself into trouble and cares for his friends
A human mage/fighter who happens to be the reincarnation of another man.
A human warlord who doesn't wear bulky armor, uses a pole arm, and is a scoundrel
A human ranger/warlord with a one handed axe who has wolf animal companions and who originally just wanted to be a blacksmith
A halfling with a ring
A halfling who's friend has a ring
A halfling who found a ring
An old wizard who has a snarky sense of humor yet everyone respects him
A human barbarian with a maul
A dwarven warrior with an axe and only one horn left on his helm
An effeminate vampire who tries so hard not to eat humans and is in love with a mortal
A half vampire who slays the undead....with a katana
A warforged from a different time period
A human barbarian with a sword who lovingly protects his wife
The wife, a human female cleric trying to spread the word of the true gods.
An older human bard who juggles, tumbles, and plays the harp and flute, yet is involved in political intrigue
A samauri who refuses to kill anymore and uses a subdual katana
Please. Only original ideas.
Anything less than the best is a felony.
Oh. Don't play a washed up human bard who is trying out "gangsta" ballads to gain the commonfolks approval.
you are my hero.
i've been saying for years the hate that drizzt and elminster was unfounded at best. real people who thought through characters should like what they like and not be biased against somthing based on its popularity. i have a friend who tends to base if he likes somthing on if it popular or not. i swear somtimes i think he would like staples through the soles of his feet if he thought that might be somthing he read as least popular.
you are my hero.
i've been saying for years the hate that drizzt and elminster was unfounded at best.
Sometimes people hate characters just as they love other characters. It's an emotional reaction and doesn't have to be founded on anything.
just a personal irk, l guess. in my personal life im surrounded by friends who based their likes and dislikes on the popularity or lack of populatiry some things have. not facts. not prior knowledge. and no solid reasoning.
i guess its unrealistic of me to hope people look beyond first impressions and book covers. ;)
Flint Fireforge.
Regis?
Every wizard.......ever.
Tasslehoff
Elric?
Mat Cauthon
Perin
Actually, this would be Bruenor Battlehammer.
The rest? IDK.
The Warrior/Mage one is probably Rand Al'Thor.
A fat rogue who happens to be a good guy.
I thought of Friar Tuck when I saw this one.
It's sad, though, when any surface-dwelling good/neutral drow gets pegged as a "Drizzt Clone".
I've been accused of that myself...even though my character was a surface-born Eilistraeean drow trained as a bladesinger. I seriously wasn't sure if the other guy even knew what he was talking about. >_>
I've been accused of that myself...even though my character was a surface-born Eilistraeean drow trained as a bladesinger. I seriously wasn't sure if the other guy even knew what he was talking about. >_>
-Drizzt Clone!
Still, I gotta admit, I was caught off guard by the accusation the first time I heard it. These days, if someone brings it up I just shrug it off, since it's kind of silly to compare a dual scimitar-wielding drow ranger with a panther to a surface-raised bladesinger who travels with his moon elven mentor :P
Plus, you know...the hugely different backstories. >_>
Yeah, how dare people play a dark elf ranger with two scimitars.
Please also never play
A halfling with a ring
(Again see below)
A halfling who's friend has a ring
(See Below)
A halfling who found a ring
(All halflings tend to "find" rings)
An old wizard who has a snarky sense of humor yet everyone respects him
Gandstlinaghastlrunsunminster)
A human barbarian with a maul
(Conan)
A dwarven warrior with an axe and only one horn left on his helm
(Bruenor)
An effeminate vampire who tries so hard not to eat humans and is in love with a mortal
(That guy who is in "Twilight" movie)
An older human bard who juggles, tumbles, and plays the harp and flute, yet is involved in political intrigue. (Mirt the Moneylender)
half-vampire who kills undead with a katana. Blade.
Every freaking half-vampire that kills vampires has some exotic bladed implement. It must be some kind of a badge of office. But yeah, they should have specified the length of the katana. D can rival Sephie-thing in that. Must be compensating for something ;)
Anyway, I haven't seen a drizzt clone yet, but his influence on rangers is undeniable. It used to be drow who were associated with dual-wielding, rangers were associated somewhat with the bow, but that was it. The guy who taught Drizzt what it means to be a ranger found the two long blades style almost unbelievable.
When you break it down almost all of RAS 's pure fighters are duel wielders
-Very true. If you take the "Defenders of the Hall", Cattie-Brie is the only non-fighter type, and that's only recently.
Bruenor? Fighter type
Wulfgar? Fighter type
Drizzt? Fighter type
Regis? Fighter type (to a degree)
Cattie-Brie? Fighter type turned Magician type
-Very true. If you take the "Defenders of the Hall", Cattie-Brie is the only non-fighter type, and that's only recently.
Bruenor? Fighter type
Wulfgar? Fighter type
Drizzt? Fighter type
Regis? Fighter type (to a degree)
Cattie-Brie? Fighter type turned Magician type
Lol. I actually meant dual weapon users. But still nice to accidently make a good point.
@LK, I think you're mistaking general cowardice with lack of ability... :D
@LK, I think you're mistaking general cowardice with lack of ability... :D
-I would think that ability would make up for any general cowardice...
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This is good news:invasion:
Charles Middlebrook, a Drow Bard, was sent to infiltrate a surface community using his knack for magical disguise. Obviously Charles isn't his real name, but it was a human community, and something about a name with three Z's, four R's, and seven apostrophes made humans suspicious, hence the pseudonym.
The intent was for Charles to scout the place out, spot the weaknesses in their defenses, and maybe perform a bit of sabotage if he saw an opportunity. Sow discord, upset the order of things, turn people against their neighbors, and otherwise soften them up for his house to raid them for slaves, territory, and delicious cattle.
Unfortunately, as is often the case with the brutal nature of Drow politics, there was a "regime change" involving the leader of his house, a traitorous lieutenant, and roughly twice the leader's body weight in Monstrous Scorpion Venom applied directly to the small of his back. By multiple crossbow bolts.
Record of Charles's little mission had been lost in the shuffle. Essentially stranded deep in enemy territory, he went native. "Went Native" here meaning that instead of acting like a Drow, he acts like a Bard. Surprisingly enough, when done well, there is very little difference between the two.
I'd thought of a very similar character myself. Clearly we can't have both our characters, and therefore one of us has to change. I suggest a duel.
While Drizzt is a pet-peeve of mine*, I say live and let live.
Your bards are power-hungry megalomaniacs with no moral values whatsoever who happily abuse/murder anyone if they are irked with them/can get something out of it and can get away with it? Nice.
Isn't everyone's? :P I think this post just inspired me to take some of my old characters from Armageddon. It'll be difficult due to the nature of D&D, but I think I could adapt a few
It's sad, though, when any surface-dwelling good/neutral drow gets pegged as a "Drizzt Clone".
While a surface-dwelling good/neutral drow isn't necessarily a Drizzt clone. If he's a ranger who dual-wields scimitars, that's pretty blatant. Although you can have a non-Drizzt neutral drow who dual-wields scimitars, but chances are, it is a clone.
* I come from a game called Armageddon where we were encouraged to create "evil" characters. If drow were in this game, Drizzt would be against the rules, with plenty of players would having evil drow instead. Having adopted this philosophy for years, Drizzt annoys me.
Just out of curiosity. You're not the former hard hitting safety from the Nfl are you?
No. Nor am I a movie actor, politician or a historian ;)
Wow. I just found out what the "Ghost King" is about based on the brief description that is on Amazon. It has the Spellplague happening and Drizzt and his friends are teaming up with Cadderly to deal with the changes and a long thought destroyed artifact makes it's appearance again. Hopefully it ties up loose ends or sets up future novels.
I have to admit, the amazon description of the book made me laugh.
As of now I haven't decided if I even want to read TPK or TGK. The people who seemed to have enjoyed TPK kept mentioning that it's about Drizzt being ineffectual. You know, I'll criticize the Drizzt novels as much as the next person, but all in all I'd rather read a "fun romp with Drizzt and friends" than a book about Drizzt being unwilling/unable to do anything (which, I repeat, is what people who liked this book seem to be praising it for).
I have to admit, the amazon description of the book made me laugh.
As of now I haven't decided if I even want to read TPK or TGK. The people who seemed to have enjoyed TPK kept mentioning that it's about Drizzt being ineffectual. You know, I'll criticize the Drizzt novels as much as the next person, but all in all I'd rather read a "fun romp with Drizzt and friends" than a book about Drizzt being unwilling/unable to do anything (which, I repeat, is what people who liked this book seem to be praising it for).
Well then "TPK" prob won't be a good novel for you then;) but there is fighting
and and as you said quite a few people were complaining 
that Drizzt never changes but to me every Drizzt book will be readable ;)Wow. I just found out what the "Ghost King" is about based on the brief description that is on Amazon. It has the Spellplague happening and Drizzt and his friends are teaming up with Cadderly to deal with the changes and a long thought destroyed artifact makes it's appearance again. Hopefully it ties up loose ends or sets up future novels.
THIS SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED A SPOILER AS ANYONE CAN GO TO AMAZON.COM TYPE IN "GHOST KING" AND READ THE DESCRIPTION OF THE BOOK WHICH IS THE SAME AS GOING TO THE STORE AND READING THE BACK OF THE NOVEL AND POSTING IT HERE.
This is good news:invasion:
-We've kind of known this since The Orc King was released, and since the FRCG was released. The first source has Drizzt mentioning "the greatest cathedral" he had ever seen (The Spirit Soaring) being messed up, and the second mentions the Spirit Soaring being empty and haunted by ghosts of some kind. So, when you put two and two together...
-We've kind of known this since The Orc King was released, and since the FRCG was released. The first source has Drizzt mentioning "the greatest cathedral" he had ever seen (The Spirit Soaring) being messed up, and the second mentions the Spirit Soaring being empty and haunted by ghosts of some kind. So, when you put two and two together...
And you end up with 4e. You are really good at math
;). Still it was good to actually read that it was actually about that instead of speculating. I mean RAS could have had the novel focus more on Gauntylgrym and the "Ghost King" being involved in that city then have a seperate triology involving the changes of Cadderly Bonaduce (Danny's sane brother) and the SS.Well then "TPK" prob won't be a good novel for you then;) ...
Yes, I have the feeling it won't be, so I may well never read it.
Of course, TOK wasn't really for me either. And I wasn't too fond of the Hunter's Blades Trilogy...Yes, I have the feeling it won't be, so I may well never read it.
Well if that hasn't stopped you before
. Since you did read the other novels I have a feeling that when the spirit moves you then you'll end up taking another chance a read it. ;)The Lady Penitant books made it very clear that all Drow are evil and there's no way around it. If you turned into a Dark elf (Have brown skin and black hair) then you aren't evil.
No self determining destiny anymore.
If you are born to an evil race, you are evil. That's it.
So in the orc King when it talks about Drizzt having white hair and black skin and killing humans and elves in his apparent service to the orcs, it just shows that he is indeed evil as the Lady Penitant book said he should be.
Right???!!
I mean, they'd never write a horribly craptastic book that might hinder one of their sacred cows...
Right?!
Or if they did, they could just ignore it...not like anyone will catch the mix up of facts or anything...
P.S. Sorry, just couldnt resist taking my jab at those horrible LP books and how much they screwed things up.
The Lady Penitant books made it very clear that all Drow are evil and there's no way around it. If you turned into a Dark elf (Have brown skin and black hair) then you aren't evil.
-Q'whatever, his apprentices, the Master of Divination, all transformed, and all certainly seemed evil to me.
Well if that hasn't stopped you before
It's highly possible.