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Who were the creator races?

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#1
davesaunders
Oct 31, 2008 11:04:38 I know that the Sarruhk are one of them but who are the others? And what books have info about them? Grand History of the Realms has information on them in the chronology, but thats mostly it. And i know that Serpent Kingdoms has info about the Sarruhk but not the others.
#2
keveras
Oct 31, 2008 12:45:00 Sarrukh, Batrachi, Aearee (three distinct subraces), and the Fey creator race (which probably includes the leShay, afaik, according to the latest Moonshaes article). And, of course, the humans.

Edit:
Information can be found in one or two of the Candlekeep Compendiums. Can't remember exactly in which one.
#3
markustay63
Oct 31, 2008 15:27:24 The Elvish List includes Dragons and omits the Aearee, but the official one is the one Keveras describes.
#4
old_sage
Oct 31, 2008 18:48:09
Edit:
Information can be found in one or two of the Candlekeep Compendiums. Can't remember exactly in which one.

Both are by Gray Richardson -- "Mysteries of the Creator Races: The Batrachi," Volume III, and "Mysteries of the Creator Races: The Aearee," Volume VII.

See my sig for the link to the downloads page at Candlekeep for the Compendium.
#5
old_sage
Oct 31, 2008 18:55:43
The Elvish List includes Dragons and omits the Aearee, but the official one is the one Keveras describes.

I usually include the aearee, since we've plenty of sources to make this connection -- Serpent Kingdoms, The Savage Frontier, Dragons of Faerûn [in the "Wyrms of the North" section] and references in Lords of Darkness [1e] and Powers & Pantheons as well.
#6
lord_karsus
Nov 01, 2008 12:00:24 -Yes, if you delve into the topic, you'll see that there are different lists. Some include Dragons, some include Humans...

-The official list of the 'exotic' Creator Races is:

Sarrukh (Reptilian)
Batrachi (Amphibian)
Aearee (Avian)
Fey (Fey/Sylvan)
#7
18DELTA
Nov 01, 2008 12:19:14 -So where/who is the 5th race? ;)

18DELTA :coolcthul
#8
lord_karsus
Nov 01, 2008 12:28:43 -Humans. They're not exotic, though. That's why I specifically mentioned 'exotic'. ;) :P
#9
davesaunders
Nov 02, 2008 12:47:35 Two questions:

1 There is only a lot of information about the Sarrukh and not the others right?

2 What are the Candlekeep Compendiums?
#10
old_sage
Nov 02, 2008 16:59:58 1 - Serpent Kingdoms is the main source on *some* of the Creator Races, like the sarrukh. FR5 The Savage Frontier and REF3 Lords of Darkness feature general information on the Creator Races as a concept. Serpent Kingdoms, FR5 The Savage Frontier, Dragons of Faerûn [in the "Wyrms of the North" section], REF3 Lords of Darkness, Powers & Pantheons, "Mysteries of the Creator Races: The Aearee," Candlekeep Compendium Volume VII, as well for aearee sources. Candlekeep Compendium "Mysteries of the Creator Races: The Batrachi," Volume III for the batrachi. Grand History of the Realms is also an important source for the Creator Races.

2 - See my earlier post here.
#11
18DELTA
Nov 02, 2008 17:22:31
2 What are the Candlekeep Compendiums?

-www.candlekeep.com/compendiumThere are currently 10 issuses of Fan made FR Lore. They are great reading.

18DELTA
#12
old_sage
Nov 02, 2008 18:07:42 Actually, there are only 9 Volumes of the Candlekeep Compendium. Volume X, the next to be released, is still in production.
#13
18DELTA
Nov 02, 2008 20:36:27 -Consider me corrected Master Sage! :D

18DELTA
#14
davesaunders
Nov 06, 2008 17:41:21 Are those official>
#15
18DELTA
Nov 06, 2008 17:49:19
Are those official>

-The Candlekeep Compendiums? No they are Fan made. But I use them anyways. :D

18DELTA (Chosen of Cyric!)
#16
davesaunders
Nov 06, 2008 17:51:08 okay thank you.
#17
old_sage
Nov 06, 2008 17:53:50
Are those official>

They're as close to official as fan-made FR material can come. Some articles references particular canon facts/events from the Realms, and strictly adhere to them. While others may tend to deviate just a little and introduce new elements that aren't directly connected with canon. And, of course, some of the articles/works, like Brian's detailing of Katashaka, have found a place in canon FR lore [in Grand History of the Realms.
#18
18DELTA
Nov 06, 2008 18:03:12
okay thank you.

-

18DELTA (The always helpful Chosen of Cyric.) :D
#19
davesaunders
Nov 07, 2008 22:19:04 Im still learning here. I dont want to start mixing up official things and non official made up things yet. Id just confuse myself and/or my players. Maybe later.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 davesaunders Oct 31, 2008 11:04:38	I know that the Sarruhk are one of them but who are the others? And what books have info about them? Grand History of the Realms has information on them in the chronology, but thats mostly it. And i know that Serpent Kingdoms has info about the Sarruhk but not the others.
#2 keveras Oct 31, 2008 12:45:00	Sarrukh, Batrachi, Aearee (three distinct subraces), and the Fey creator race (which probably includes the leShay, afaik, according to the latest Moonshaes article). And, of course, the humans. Edit: Information can be found in one or two of the Candlekeep Compendiums. Can't remember exactly in which one.
#3 markustay63 Oct 31, 2008 15:27:24	The Elvish List includes Dragons and omits the Aearee, but the official one is the one Keveras describes.
#4 old_sage Oct 31, 2008 18:48:09	Edit: Information can be found in one or two of the Candlekeep Compendiums. Can't remember exactly in which one. Both are by Gray Richardson -- "Mysteries of the Creator Races: The Batrachi," Volume III, and "Mysteries of the Creator Races: The Aearee," Volume VII. See my sig for the link to the downloads page at Candlekeep for the Compendium.
#5 old_sage Oct 31, 2008 18:55:43	The Elvish List includes Dragons and omits the Aearee, but the official one is the one Keveras describes. I usually include the aearee, since we've plenty of sources to make this connection -- Serpent Kingdoms, The Savage Frontier, Dragons of Faerûn [in the "Wyrms of the North" section] and references in Lords of Darkness [1e] and Powers & Pantheons as well.
#6 lord_karsus Nov 01, 2008 12:00:24	-Yes, if you delve into the topic, you'll see that there are different lists. Some include Dragons, some include Humans... -The official list of the 'exotic' Creator Races is: Sarrukh (Reptilian) Batrachi (Amphibian) Aearee (Avian) Fey (Fey/Sylvan)
#7 18DELTA Nov 01, 2008 12:19:14	-So where/who is the 5th race? ;) 18DELTA :coolcthul
#8 lord_karsus Nov 01, 2008 12:28:43	-Humans. They're not exotic, though. That's why I specifically mentioned 'exotic'. ;) :P
#9 davesaunders Nov 02, 2008 12:47:35	Two questions: 1 There is only a lot of information about the Sarrukh and not the others right? 2 What are the Candlekeep Compendiums?
#10 old_sage Nov 02, 2008 16:59:58	1 - Serpent Kingdoms is the main source on some of the Creator Races, like the sarrukh. FR5 The Savage Frontier and REF3 Lords of Darkness feature general information on the Creator Races as a concept. Serpent Kingdoms, FR5 The Savage Frontier, Dragons of Faerûn [in the "Wyrms of the North" section], REF3 Lords of Darkness, Powers & Pantheons, "Mysteries of the Creator Races: The Aearee," Candlekeep Compendium Volume VII, as well for aearee sources. Candlekeep Compendium "Mysteries of the Creator Races: The Batrachi," Volume III for the batrachi. Grand History of the Realms is also an important source for the Creator Races. 2 - See my earlier post here.
#11 18DELTA Nov 02, 2008 17:22:31	2 What are the Candlekeep Compendiums? -www.candlekeep.com/compendiumThere are currently 10 issuses of Fan made FR Lore. They are great reading. 18DELTA
#12 old_sage Nov 02, 2008 18:07:42	Actually, there are only 9 Volumes of the Candlekeep Compendium. Volume X, the next to be released, is still in production.
#13 18DELTA Nov 02, 2008 20:36:27	-Consider me corrected Master Sage! :D 18DELTA
#14 davesaunders Nov 06, 2008 17:41:21	Are those official>
#15 18DELTA Nov 06, 2008 17:49:19	Are those official> -The Candlekeep Compendiums? No they are Fan made. But I use them anyways. :D 18DELTA (Chosen of Cyric!)
#16 davesaunders Nov 06, 2008 17:51:08	okay thank you.
#17 old_sage Nov 06, 2008 17:53:50	Are those official> They're as close to official as fan-made FR material can come. Some articles references particular canon facts/events from the Realms, and strictly adhere to them. While others may tend to deviate just a little and introduce new elements that aren't directly connected with canon. And, of course, some of the articles/works, like Brian's detailing of Katashaka, have found a place in canon FR lore [in Grand History of the Realms.
#18 18DELTA Nov 06, 2008 18:03:12	okay thank you. - 18DELTA (The always helpful Chosen of Cyric.) :D
#19 davesaunders Nov 07, 2008 22:19:04	Im still learning here. I dont want to start mixing up official things and non official made up things yet. Id just confuse myself and/or my players. Maybe later.