Oddly, I think I would've preferred that, instead of what they've given us.
BTW - it's humor, folks. Don't get all cranky about it. It's one of my favorites of all time.
:embarrass
Thundarr... I remember that one vaguely... had the energy sword that sorta looked like a lightning bolt, right? As to the link, wouldn't let me look at it. YouTube has been hating me lately for some inexplicable reason...
Exactly. One of the Thundarr cartoons has him leap into a pack of rat-people brandishing his Sun Sword, and he yells to his companion Ariel, "There can't be more than 50 of them, I'll be FINE!".
Considering how easily he takes them all out, the rat people must've been *cough* minions *cough* of the wizard Gemini. ;)
;)
Silly Mr. Misc... ;)
3e didn't even exist yet when that show was around. :P
Silly Mr. Misc... ;)
Second edition didn't exist when that cartoon was on... Around the same time as the D&D cartoon. Gotta love the 80's saturday morning cartoons.
;)
;)
Do you know how many times I referenced THAT EXACT CLIP in the old FR forums? (before I 'met' you)
Dang... we have VERY similar taste.
Princess Arial - the FIRST cartoon 'hotty'. :D
Anyhow, I repeatedly used this pic in many threads when referencing the new Realms after the Gencon announcement -
Which I grabbed off that self-same video clip. I thought the 'Tears of Selune' especially apt.
-My favorite is Herculoids...That's a bit older than this one, but...
-Also, as MT has pointed out, there are numerous similarities between what's going on in the Realms, and stuff that's happened in Mystara. MT, show 'em.
Do you know how many times I referenced THAT EXACT CLIP in the old FR forums? (before I 'met' you)
Haha! That's right, I forgot! I was in the middle of trying to figure out how to put Thundarr eps on my ipod, and getting all nostalgic about them - when this hit me.
It must've been rattling around in my head from when you posted that a while back.
Sorry for the re-do without a reference to that.Dang... we have VERY similar taste.
Princess Arial - the FIRST cartoon 'hotty'. :D
I liked her for the constant string of one-line zingers that she'd tease everyone with. :D
Not too long ago, around the time of the Baldur's Gate computer game, I modeled a Rashemi witch character after Ariel. :D
I thought the 'Tears of Selune' especially apt.
*ahem*
Anandarr, the Rashemi!
In the year 1385, from out of dweomerheart flies a burning Cyric
hurtling between Faerun and Selune!
unleashing cosmic destruction! (*craaack... BOOM!*)
Toril's civilization is cast in ruin.
100 years later, Faerun is reborn,
a strange new world rises from the old:
a world of super-retcons, points of light, and at-will sorcery!
But one witch bursts her bonds to fight for justice
with her companions, Obould the Orc and Princess Alusair,
she pits her spells, her courage,
and her fabulous Staff of the Sun, (*vroom vroom vroom*)
against the forces of evil! (*Obould growls menacingly*)
She is... Anandarr, the Rashemi! :D
-Also, as MT has pointed out, there are numerous similarities between what's going on in the Realms, and stuff that's happened in Mystara. MT, show 'em.
I think you might mean Aebrynis, which was the world that Birthright was set on.
Only the Shadowcrap (Shadowfel) came from there... and some of the Feywild stuff.
From Mystara we got the rules for the 'Epic Paths', from the Immortals ruleset (but FR has ALWAYS borrowed heavily from Mystara - a LOT came from there).
The Cosmology came from the Scarred Lands setting - scarily so.
The time advancment & Dragonborn (Draconians) came from the Dragonlance setting.
The flavor came from World of Darkness (and from 2e's Greyhawk box From the Ashes).
The Spellscars (Dragonmarks) came from Eberron (along with the Mournland/Changing land)
The Abberations came from Cthulhu Games... so did the plateau of Leng (Thay).
And the rules came from WoW.
Off the top of my head, that pretty much sums up everything I've been saying for the past 11 months.
But I'm sure I've missed a couple... ;)
-This is the bestest thread evar. ;)
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But I'm sure I've missed a couple... ;)
And don't forget, the entire idea came forth to please those who didn't like it to begin with.
I think you might mean Aebrynis, which was the world that Birthright was set on.
-Birthright, that's right. Whoops.
(...) And the rules came from WoW.
I love it that (initially) people said, "gosh, that sounds like WoW rules", then tons of people came back with the classic "NO IT'S NOT!" argument, and then Mearls recently admits that a lot of the rule dynamics were MMORPG inspired.
Turns out it was a wee bit WoW-inspired after all. lolz! :D
I laughed pretty hard at this. And now that I think about it, I too might have preferred to hit the Realms with a comet than with a spellplague, if I'd had my choice of disasters.
but they've already used that one... :P
I love it that (initially) people said, "gosh, that sounds like WoW rules", then tons of people came back with the classic "NO IT'S NOT!" argument, and then Mearls recently admits that a lot of the rule dynamics were MMORPG inspired.
Turns out it was a wee bit WoW-inspired after all. lolz! :D
So all the talk about 4e attempting to target MMORPG players wasen't just pointless drabble. The new look certainly looks MMOish. It kinda lost the "crusty" and archaic" feeling of old D&D and replaced it with something Blizzard Entertainment might have used for a game.
Cool cartoon by the way, I think I've seen it sometime in the past. Is is still on?
Don't think that cartoon has been on in... 20 years or so... if not more.
Probably saw it on Boomerang a while ago, they show a lot of retro cartoons.
So all the talk about 4e attempting to target MMORPG players wasen't just pointless drabble. The new look certainly looks MMOish. It kinda lost the "crusty" and archaic" feeling of old D&D and replaced it with something Blizzard Entertainment might have used for a game.
Yep, he admitted it in a recent interview.
Cool cartoon by the way, I think I've seen it sometime in the past. Is is still on?
No, Thundarr was last produced / made in 1980-81. They had it re-run up through 1987 or so, I believe. But very recently, it's been on the cartoon network (last year and this year) as re-runs and they sold a small line of new toys for it, heh. Yep, on Boomerang, that was it!
No, Thundarr was last produced / made in 1980-81. They had it re-run up through 1987 or so, I believe. But very recently, it's been on the cartoon network (last year and this year) as re-runs and they sold a small line of new toys for it, heh. Yep, on Boomerang, that was it!
Are you trying to make us graybeards feel old?
Maybe they will get around to making the movie of Thundar (call it Dungeons and Dragons 3), since they are making all of those old cartoons into movies anyway (Transformers, GI Joe)
Are you trying to make us graybeards feel old?
Maybe they will get around to making the movie of Thundar (call it Dungeons and Dragons 3), since they are making all of those old cartoons into movies anyway (Transformers, GI Joe)
Transformers and GI Joe have been adopted to the modern populace long before any movies emerged and have spawned successful franchises among the younger generation. Something like Thundarr on the other hand, correct me if I'm mistaken, hasen't.
Man, that show is older than me.
-I was 8 years old when "Thundar the Barbarian" first aired. :P
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I got Underwear older then half of you guys. :D
Wow, everyone here is so old...makes me feel a lot better about myself.:D
Wow, everyone here is so old...makes me feel a lot better about myself.:D
Well I look (and behave) like 18-21 so I don't feel old yet :D
Well I look (and behave) like 18-21 so I don't feel old yet :D
Well, you live in the tropics, when I was down in the Bahamas over Christmas I felt like I was in a utopia where I would never age, but unfortunatly my home is in the frozen north...
Well, you live in the tropics, when I was down in the Bahamas over Christmas I felt like I was in a utopia where I would never age, but unfortunatly my home is in the frozen north...
Well I'm in NC now so...
Well I'm in NC now so...
Yes, a few more years there and you will look and sound like Stigger and MarkusTay;) .
Yes, a few more years there and you will look and sound like Stigger and MarkusTay;) .
My job DOES have a history of putting some grey hair on your head, but MT doesn't sounds old, Stig however....
Yes..I have always thought he was one of those old Japanese men who live alone up in the mountains, read, fish, and practice martial arts all day.:D Dunno how he got access to a computer though...
Yes..I have always thought he was one of those old Japanese men who live alone up in the mountains, read, fish, and practice martial arts all day.:D Dunno how he got access to a computer though...
He doesn't watch TV though....
He doesn't watch TV though....
Neither do a lot of other people I know, and they live smack dab in the middle of suburbia.
And yes, that damned Spellplague... its... um... spelly... and plaguey... or something.
OMG!
Do you know how many times I referenced THAT EXACT CLIP in the old FR forums? (before I 'met' you)
Dang... we have VERY similar taste.
Princess Arial - the FIRST cartoon 'hotty'. :D
Anyhow, I repeatedly used this pic in many threads when referencing the new Realms after the Gencon announcement -
Which I grabbed off that self-same video clip. I thought the 'Tears of Selune' especially apt.
Wow, Markus. You must have missed the old cartoons where they drew Yvonne Craig Batgirl and she voiced it.
3e didn't even exist yet when that show was around. :P
Silly Mr. Misc... ;)
But the designers and creators!
BTW, Spellplague, just look at Eberron, Earthdawn, possibly Shadowrun, Fall Out, WoD and Engel. Stereotype galore.
-I vaguely remember that show...
-My favorite is Herculoids...
Super haemorrhoids! (Sp?)
May a thousand foul-tempered locusts infest the Netheril *cough* regions of those rotten designers!
Its from hangin' around with my 17 and 19 year olds - I'm more their friend then their dad, which drives their mother nuts...
Which is just an excellent fringe benefit. :D
And I know its very cliche', but I find this old saying is VERY true -
"You're only as old as you feel."
I have a full, thick head of hair, and only one or two are grey. At 45, I'm pretty damn proud of that.
And I still like to play with my 'toy soldiers' (minis), so I guess I never really grew up. :P
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Curses!!! With Mulhorand gone in 4E... I'll NEVER have a flying camel that sounds like scooby doo!!! Rotten stupid Spellplague!
May a thousand foul-tempered locusts infest the Netheril *cough* regions of those rotten designers!
-Good ol' Kabookie (Sp?). But, there's still Calimshan, the Anauroch, and the Raurin in Faerûn proper for the flying camels.
As to the stereotype of armageddon-like catastrophes that screw over the world... got sick of them a long time ago. Just not my cup of tea now that I'm over my angst-ridden teen years.
As to the stereotype of armageddon-like catastrophes that screw over the world... got sick of them a long time ago. Just not my cup of tea now that I'm over my angst-ridden teen years.
I have one new for you. The world after cheap oil dissapears (going to be the main theme of my Mage: the Awakening campaign).
Heh, only 35 and my hair has been going stark white since I was in my mid-twenties... but it looks like my grandfathers, and his looked great, so I'm rather looking forward to going full white. Make it easier to color at least... :D
As to the stereotype of armageddon-like catastrophes that screw over the world... got sick of them a long time ago. Just not my cup of tea now that I'm over my angst-ridden teen years.
You an average emotional teenager, frightning...
OMG - I knew the Spellplague seemed familiar to me... it's basically THIS, just retooled specifically for Faerun.
Hmm - I thought I missed the 80s, but I don't think I would have missed that. However, now you've gone and polluted my brain anyway
.Heh then there was Ookla the Mok.
DEMON DOGS!
You know, we continued to use those catchphrases well through college games, heck I still would pop them out for MMORPGs. The cartoons of my youth rocked.
SPAAAAAAAAAAACE GHOOOOOOOOOOOOST.
And I was never an 'average' emotional teenager... Goths in the 80's were considered anything but 'average', and I have the scars to prove just how 'unaverage' the typical suburbanite thought of us as...
Though I agree that Space Ghost rocked. :D
World after the oil disappears comes under the same classification as the World after the fresh water disappears to my mind... maybe it was growing up with all that post-apocalyptic garbage from the 80's that just jaded me to all of it...
And I was never an 'average' emotional teenager... Goths in the 80's were considered anything but 'average', and I have the scars to prove just how 'unaverage' the typical suburbanite thought of us as...
Though I agree that Space Ghost rocked. :D
Oh, I must not be familiar with your times, since now a days goths, emos, scene kids, and posers all hang together and you don't even know who is who anymore, its just a "rebellious" mainstream trend. Of course, I know a few that stand out yet still hang with the main crowd just to get attention.
Goths these days... well, I'll just say they're a far cry from the ones in my youth, to the point I don't really consider them goths in the sense we were. Sounds a bit arrogant perhaps, but I don't really consider buying a black dress, putting on some eye-liner, and doing a few lines constituting an actual goth. Was a lot more into the music, literature, creativity (no one out there to make those fabulour outfits except us) and the philosophy rather than just 'being cool' back then.
Was pretty much asking to get the crap kicked out of you back in my youth to appear in public anywhere in the suburbs... wasn't just goths though, it was pretty much anyone who wasn't a preppy conformist.
Goths these days... well, I'll just say they're a far cry from the ones in my youth, to the point I don't really consider them goths in the sense we were. Sounds a bit arrogant perhaps, but I don't really consider buying a black dress, putting on some eye-liner, and doing a few lines constituting an actual goth. Was a lot more into the music, literature, creativity (no one out there to make those fabulour outfits except us) and the philosophy rather than just 'being cool' back then.
That's one thing the metal fans don't suffer. Nobody who listens metal does it to be cool.
That's one thing the metal fans don't suffer. Nobody who listens metal does it to be cool.
Well, a lot of the scene kids listen to more mainstream bands like AZX and BfMV (which actually aren't that bad) or just **** bands like MCR who pretend to be metal to be cool in the eyes of their particular clique.
Besides, where would we be without AC/DC and their dirty big balls? :P
Yeah, but metal is crap, so why would anyone bother to listen to it in the first place. :P ;) :D
Oh, don't tell me you never listened to them in the day.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMgQoYFp_K4
I hated those guys, with their lootin' and pillagin'... and their damn make-out parties...
Boy... I'm REALLY old...
Were you an Ostrogoth or a Visigoth?
I hated those guys, with their lootin' and pillagin'... and their damn make-out parties...
Boy... I'm REALLY old...
Nope, he's actually a Hun that was sent to infiltrate Goth society and destroy it from within. A goth that dosen't like metal is...
Oh, don't tell me you never listened to them in the day.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMgQoYFp_K4
Gah!!! Let them fade into obscurity, as they're meant to. :P
Gah!!! Let them fade into obscurity, as they're meant to. :P
Paradise Lost is classic goth metal that will never fade into obscurity.:P
Paradise Lost is classic goth metal that will never fade into obscurity.:P
Heh! As we speak, they already are... ;)
Heh! As we speak, they already are... ;)
Bah, you don't know how rock music works. You always remember the founders, and you remember the successors as well if a genre becomes successful, and if not it gets crapped. Goth metal is still going strong today with bands like Lacuna Coil, Nightwish, and Lachryimosa. So I don't see them going anywhere for a long time.
Not really that gothy though by my standards actually... and no, never listened to them. Lacuna Coil is about as metal as I allow my goth to get, and they're pretty recent by my way of looking at things.
What, you more into Bauhaus and Sisters of Mercy?
Bauhaus, I prefer my pretention a bit more up front... but they're both good. Bolshoi, Red Lorry Yellow Lorry, Specimen... were generally better as far as I'm concerned though. Last Dance for more modern stuff, along with London After Midnight and Incubbus Succubus.
Ahh, beware, the figment of my imagination will strike back.
Ok...Spellplague, spellplague, spellplague.
D&D has succubi, and incubi as well, so link up there...
Things in the Realms are red and yellow, Lliira for instance uses both of those colors, so link up there...
See, totally on subject in a roundabout sort of way, no matter what opinion the figment is imagined as having. :D
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The Spellplague, often referred to as the "Cerulean Death" in later years. :P
That's almost Edgar Allen Poe. ;)
At times I think you've got this unhealthy fascination with YouTube Rino... ;)
It's not unhealthy. It promotes laughter, and laughter is good for one's health.;)
I like YouTube as much as anyone else, but those are just... weird.
;) :P
And to keep this on-topic, hasn't everyone wanted to do this with his/her barbarian?
:DBut I find many of those Zelda videos... disturbing.
I like YouTube as much as anyone else, but those are just... weird.
;) :P
For me, that's one of the reasons why they are so funny.;)
It's not unhealthy. It promotes laughter, and laughter is good for one's health.;)
It is unhealthy... you could rupture something laughing like that, or choke, or any other number of gruesome things.
I know, I'll stick a kitten in a blender every time you watch one and sacrifice it to some dark deity of Rino-death to appease it so that it spares your life. I can be so damned kind sometimes... :angelhide
:D
I know, I'll stick a kitten in a blender every time you watch one and sacrifice it to some dark deity of Rino-death to appease it so that it spares your life. I can be so damned kind sometimes... :angelhide
:D
I have one new for you. The world after cheap oil dissapears (going to be the main theme of my Mage: the Awakening campaign).
So your campaign world is a few weeks ago?;p
Not really that gothy though by my standards actually... and no, never listened to them. Lacuna Coil is about as metal as I allow my goth to get, and they're pretty recent by my way of looking at things.
I sense the Cure.
So your campaign world is a few weeks ago?;p
It starts there, and it moves in time to see the results of that. Gonna get tought for the Free Council (could even get split from the Pentacle Order) and the Seers of the Throne.
I found an exclusive pic from the 4e FRCG -
;) :D
-Really? Or, you're just making things up?
He's making it up... or rather, borrowing something similar for comedic effect. ;)
And it was pretty funny.
Note the Cape. :P
He's making it up... or rather, borrowing something similar for comedic effect. ;)
-He does that often enough to run me in loops.
I love throwing a 'curve ball' once in awhile. :P
As to the Spellplague, I'm not in favor of it.
As to Markus, its not that difficult to tell when he's being obnoxious... there's a different tone to this words when he's messing with heads.
Had that been a REAL pic, it would have been accompanied by a 4-page anti-WotC tirade. :D
Plus, whenever I include the ;) smiley, you KNOW its a joke.
I know, I'll stick a kitten in a blender every time you watch one and sacrifice it to some dark deity of Rino-death to appease it so that it spares your life. I can be so damned kind sometimes... :angelhide
:D
Hmmm...
I don't believe you.:P
You should... :evillaugh
I would....
Never much liked the Cure... though some of their early stuff was pretty good.
As to the Spellplague, I'm not in favor of it.
As to Markus, its not that difficult to tell when he's being obnoxious... there's a different tone to this words when he's messing with heads.
I just think they could've made a new post-apocalyptic setting. How much that actually appeals to me, they messed with my Realms!
I just think they could've made a new post-apocalyptic setting. How much that actually appeals to me, they messed with my Realms!
-Odds are, they aren't going to be making any new settings. The Core stuff isn't a setting. It's a pseudosetting, but it's not an actual setting. And, if they keep their promise that every year, they will be updating an old, defunct setting into 4e, there's plenty of material already there. 2009, Eberron. 2010, Greyhawk. 2011, Dragonlance. 2012, Planescape. 2013, Spelljammer. 2014, Dark Sun. And so on.
-Note, that everything past Eberron is just speculation right now.
Dark Sun and Ravenloft I could definitely see fitting in with their PoL concept... not too sure about the rest, but I don't seem to recall them being a great fit except for maybe Greyhawk. DL I know nothing about, so... can't speak to that.
Neither do I, but from being a game-geek and LGS lurker I've learned a thing or two, and I would say it depends on which age you are playing in.
Just from my amateurish knowledge of DL, I recall their being one age where all the gods 'went away' and evil was prevalent everywhere (I think it had something to do with Takhisis/Tiamet "locking the other gods out" of the sphere or some such idiocy).
GH is a good choice, most especially the period during and immediately following the Greyhawk Wars.
Cerillia (Birthright) would probably work, although I know less about it then Dragonlance. From what little I know, it almost has a Ravenloft flavor in regards to 'Lords' ruling over their 'Realms' with absolute (magical) power. Some of the darker Realms (ruled by evil-types) would fit POL, I'm willing to wager.
As fior the rest of Toril...
K-T wouldn't work - it's pretty damn civilized in Shou-Lung. Outside of that empire though all bets are off, so it's like one HUGE point-of-light surrounded by darkness. Then again, a lot could have changed in the last 10-15 years (which I am working on), so it might be slightly more POL by now. The two related sub-settings - the Hordelands and Malatra are really TOO uncivilized. There is perhaps one or two 'Points of light' within each of those regions (although there are civilized kingdoms nearby for both).
Maztica screams POL - too bad it was the first thing they decided wouldn't work in 4e.
Zakhara is actually perfect. Even though the whole thing is a huge civilized empire (just like Shou Lung), it is divided into city-states surrounded by deserts and other 'badlands' filled with monsters and elementals.
Anchorome and the Maztican replacement will probably be 100% POL (if Anchorome gets any coverage what-so-ever).
Just from my amateurish knowledge of DL, I recall their being one age where all the gods 'went away' and evil was prevalent everywhere (I think it had something to do with Takhisis/Tiamet "locking the other gods out" of the sphere or some such idiocy).
-I'm no expert on Dragonlance, either, but I believe this was the mythical "Fifth Age", which every single person who I know that likes/liked Dragonlance disliked.
Cool cartoon by the way, I think I've seen it sometime in the past. Is is still on?
Yes, it's on Boomerang Network, at 1 am (I DVR it regularly along w/ Justice League).
Sorry, this was in response to the Thundarr the Barbarian part of this topic, which has taken several curves and dips from whence it began.
Carry on with the fun! :D
Yes, it's on Boomerang Network, at 1 am (I DVR it regularly along w/ Justice League).
Sorry, this was in response to the Thundarr the Barbarian part of this topic, which has taken several curves and dips from whence it began.
Yeah, I've been watching it recently, its a blast.:D
Stigger, 5th Age post WoS (more correctly called the Age of Humanity) would fit quite well with points of light as ancient kingdoms have been long displaced and it seems numerous nations are fracturing. I woudn't go poking around Silvanesti though, or Solamnia, they've got Imperial problems.
Taladas on the other hand, would work much better with points of light.