I will post here when I have it and you can ask questions...I think it will end up being a week or so early
(Kinda sad, the Dm guide for the realms arrived 2 weeks early :P ) hehe
Sanjay
Hey
I will post here when I have it and you can ask questions...I think it will end up being a week or so early
(Kinda sad, the Dm guide for the realms arrived 2 weeks early :P ) hehe
Sanjay
Where did you order your copy from?
(they ship items when they arrive in the warehouse which is normallly 3 days to 1.5 weeks in advance).
Sanjay
Chapters.ca
(they ship items when they arrive in the warehouse which is normallly 3 days to 1.5 weeks in advance).
Sanjay
Hmm never heard about them before. I ordered mine from Buy.com as they seem to ship books earlier than Amazon.
Hmm never heard about them before. I ordered mine from Buy.com as they seem to ship books earlier than Amazon.
Heh, I very nearly ordered mine from Buy.com, too, but unfortunately, they didn't have Adventurer's Vault, which I also wanted to get. And since I wasn't interested in paying for shipping twice by ordering both books from two separate online stores, I decided to just order from Amazon.
Heh, I very nearly ordered mine from Buy.com, too, but unfortunately, they didn't have Adventurer's Vault, which I also wanted to get. And since I wasn't interested in paying for shipping twice by ordering both books from two separate online stores, I decided to just order from Amazon.
I am waiting to see Adventurer's Vault before I buy it. If it is mostly magic items, then I have no interest buying it and will let my DM buy it.
Now if it has alot of new crafting abilities and non-magical treasure, I will pick it up.
yes I will start posting info/responses.
However, chapters.ca tracking info says it's not updated yet. It may mean it's still inside the canada post warehouse..so it may actually arrive tomorrow (I was expecting it late today)...
Either way, post questions here OR if anyone else gets it first and they start answering stuff, I will add my comments to that thread...
Sanjay
Now if it has alot of new crafting abilities and non-magical treasure, I will pick it up.
It appears that there'll be non-magical weapons, at least. They posted a preview of a new weapon called the Executioner's Axe, which had a new rule attached to it (Think it was called Brutal. It was listed as Brutal 2, so if you rolled a 1 or 2 for damage, you got to reroll). There's also an Alchemy Feat in it, which sounds like it might be interesting. Not to mention more mounts and reagents.
As for questions...
1) Can you list all the Paragon Paths?
2) There's an Epic Destiny in the book (apparently Chosen). Can you give us a brief rundown of what the Chosen's powers do?
3) We've gotten a list of the Heroic Tier Feats. Can you list the Paragon and Epic Tier Feats, and maybe provide quick summaries of what some or all of them do?
4) How exactly does the "multiclass only class" in the book work? About how many powers does it have available, and at what levels?
5) What're the Rituals in the book?
6) Are there stats for Cormyrian Destriers? And if so, what's their Strength?
7) What do Kelemvor's Judgment and Torm's Justice do?
And that's about all I got. Thanks a bunch!
this is what chapters/canada post tracking says since yesterday:
2008/09/07 10:41 MISSISSAUGA, ON In transit to the post office
Hoping that tomorrow it arrives
Sanjay
2008/09/08 07:37 MISSISSAUGA, ON Item processed at postal facility
2008/09/07 10:41 MISSISSAUGA, ON In transit to the post office
7) What do Kelemvor's Judgment and ... do?
I too would like to know the answer to this question, plz. The rest I can find out later, but as I am about to join a 4E-gotten Realms game (as a cleric of Kelemvor), I'd like to know if it is worth taking. Thankuverymuch!:D
** warlock (dark pact) CHA based
**spell scarred comes in two levels, the first is really a hindrance more then a advantage, the second level is just like multi classing .
** 25 ish paragon paths based on class,races, spell scare and power source and Epic D the Chosen for 11 gods
** 24 ish backgrounds just like Elfharrow
will do updates tonight from home
ask away....
Sanjay
7) What do Kelemvor's Judgment and Torm's Justice do?
Kelemvor's Judgment
large blast and dose 1d12 damage that booth scale to undead targets. your going to want this
Torm's Justice
not that good, power bonus to hit bloodied foes
4) How exactly does the "multiclass only class" in the book work? About how many powers does it have available, and at what levels?
6) Are there stats for Cormyrian Destriers? And if so, what's their Strength?
4) thats the spell scare class and it looks like the power section of any other class without the at-will powers and less options
6) not that i see
oh and 24 rituals
all leave the rest to sanjay
anarch of Shyr
coronal Guard
Darkwalker
doomguide
Drow wandeer
eartheart defender
elemental tempest
evermeet warlock
ghost of eventide
heartwarder
high forest scout
impilturan demonslayer
morninglord
purple dragon knight
silverstar
simbarch of aglarond
spellguard wizard
spellscarred savant
steelsky liberator
sword coast corsair
umbriri
wandering swordmage
war wizard of cormyr
whirlwind genasi
wirldfire genasi
Epic Destinies:
Chosen
Rituals:
amanuensis
analyze portal
arcane mark
clear the path
dark light
deathly shroud
divine sight
duplicate
feat of strength
purge spellplague
purify spellscarred
raise land
seek rumor
shadow bridge
share husk
shift mote
simbul's conversion
soulguard
status
time ravager
tiny lanterns
trailblaze
walk crossroads
waterborn
Regards,
Sanjay
So I should have it in 1 hour, 15 minutes, & 36 seconds... 35... 34... 33... this is fun!
2) Does the book say who Angharradh really is? Is it Sehanine? Any mention of Sehanine?
3) Do swordmages get cantrips?
4) What does the Channel Divinity Eyes of Selune do?
Much thanks for answering our questions
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Blade initiate - prereq 13 Int
it lets you invoke warding class feature...
multiclass spellscar feat:
prereq= must have a spellscar
qualify for the novice, adept, etc feats from PHB for the calss you would hve multiclassed, and you can choose a trait from the list (limited darkvision, speed boost, extended reach)
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with regards to existing...there are new feats...and the paragon paths, etc...however, there is a new Warlock Pact...the Dark Pact with a whole set of powers (level 1 to 29 as all other classes)
Regards,
Sanjay
and Epic D the Chosen for 11 gods
So Chosen Epic Destiny is only available for worshippers of 11 gods? So which gods are allowed to get Chosen (my guess is that it's just Greater Gods, and not the evil ones, so Amaunator, Chauntea, Corellon, Kelemvor, Oghma, Moradin, Selune, Silvanus, Sune, Tempus, and Torm)? And what do the Chosen powers grant you?
anarch of Shyr
coronal Guard
Darkwalker
doomguide
Drow wandeer
eartheart defender
elemental tempest
evermeet warlock
ghost of eventide
heartwarder
high forest scout
impilturan demonslayer
morninglord
purple dragon knight
silverstar
simbarch of aglarond
spellguard wizard
spellscarred savant
steelsky liberator
sword coast corsair
umbriri
wandering swordmage
war wizard of cormyr
whirlwind genasi
wirldfire genasi
What're the prerequisites for each of these? Prerequisite for Purple Dragon Knight, for instance, is "Fighter, paladin, or warlord; affiliated with Cormyr". How about the rest?
Kelemvor's Judgment
large blast and dose 1d12 damage that booth scale to undead targets. your going to want this
Damn, sounds nice!
Last but not least, what're the Paragon and Epic tier Feats? Thanks a bunch.
1)
3) Do swordmages get cantrips?
no
Are there new powers for existing classes?
just the powers for the warlock dark pact
And I'm playing a swordmage, but I could never ask you to type up all of that. (though if the questions die down, my swordmage is frost-based, so if you could look up powers up to level 10 that fit that concept, I'd owe you a favor.)
it targets undead and does radiiant damage.
I don't know if I should post the exact info here on a forum..may get in trouble...
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regarding spellscar...well there are multiclass feats for the spellscar it appears so i think you can..but maybe i read this wrong... maybe you can't go to another class after.
Sanjay
anarch of Shyr - swordsage, aegis of assault
coronal Guard - swordmage
Darkwalker - warock, dark pact
doomguide - divine class that worships kelemvor
Drow wandeer - drow, trained in dungeoneerring
eartheart defender - dwarf fighter or dwarf paladin
elemental tempest - genasi, extra manifestation feat
evermeet warlock - warlock
ghost of eventide - rogue from cormyr, dalelands elturgard, evereska, gray vale, luruar, or sembia
heartwarder - any divine that worships SUne
high forest scout - ranger, archer fighting styl
impilturan demonslayer - ranger, 2 blade style
morninglord - any divine that worships amaunator
purple dragon knight - menioned above
silverstar - any arcane or divine that can use implement and must worship selune
simbarch of aglarond - wizard
spellguard wizard - wizard
spellscarred savant - student of plague multiclass feat, must have at least 1 spellscar
steelsky liberator - dragonborn, genasi, half orc, or human
sword coast corsair - any martial
umbriri - swordmage
wandering swordmage - swordmage
war wizard of cormyr - wizard affiliaated with cormyr
whirlwind genasi - genasi, wind soul elemental manifestation
wirldfire genasi - genasi, firesoul elemental manifestation
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cahnnel divinity eyes of selune - reroll a failed save
gotta go get wife from work...back in a while
Sanjay
cahnnel divinity eyes of selune - reroll a failed save
Wow what a let-down.....wonder why they call it "Eyes"....kinda a crappy Channel Divinity power when you can make a saving throw every round anyway and doesn't guarantee you will make it the second time.
simbarch of aglarond - wizard
While I am grateful to designers for this paragon path, and plan to make use of it, this restriction slightly bothers me. Namely, what happens when the PHBII comes out, along with the Sorcerer class, and a you have a PC Aglarondan who wishes to be a Sorcerer and who wants to take up the path? (it is already bad enough that the Archmage epic destiny is "wizard only", despite previous edition uses of the title).
In 3E Aglarond held a reputation of being a land where sorcerers were far more common than wizards. It made sense because sorcery was intuitive, and thus the talent for it could appear in any community, even if knowledge of spellcraft or the infrastructure for teaching it was not readily available. Many of the human and half-elven folk of the Yuirwood descended from a great, hidden, and magically adroit elven realm. Meanwhile, many of the coastal humans who gained talent the Art often did so with the patronage (or personal instruction) of the Simbul herself, whose arcane talents were primarily as a sorcerer, whilst wizardry was a talent on the side for her.
steelsky liberator - dragonborn, genasi, half orc, or human
Do they have stats for half-orc or is it just an Orc clone?
Sune - burst 1, targets 1 ally. target gains a +2 power bonus to his or her next attack roll or skill check made before end of next turn.
Sanjay
* And I'm playing a swordmage, but I could never ask you to type up all of that. (though if the questions die down, my swordmage is frost-based, so if you could look up powers up to level 10 that fit that concept, I'd owe you a favor.)
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Genasi P Paths:
Windsoul genasi - lvl 11: when use action pt, u can use windwalker encounter power an extra time
lvl 11- when using windwalker, u gain fly speed 8 until end turn
lvl 16- when u slide, get pushed, pulled, etc u can increase or decease the distance by 1
Wildfire genasi - lvl 11, when use action pt, all enemies adjacent take fire damage
lvl 11 - when u use firesoul, share racial fire resistance with allies within 2 squares
lvl 16-if enemies hit u in melee, they take fire damage
both have 3 powers there....
Regarding cold swordmage:
lvl 1 - chilling blow, encounter / frost backlash, daily
lvl 5 - deep freeze, daily
that;s it for cold stuff lower than level 10...
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chantea - target rerolls failed save with +4 bonus.
Regards,
Sanjay
What are the other 1st level Swordmage encounter powers besides the ones already show in the preview and what do they do?
Sehananine - didn't see any mention
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Angharradh - good aligned goddess associatd with corellon. due to this, many elves worship her.
level 1 sword mage stuff (aegis of assault, aegis of shielding we already know)
at-wills: booming blade, 1[W]+ int and 1d6+con thunder damage if it was adjacent and then moved away from you on it's turn
greenflame blade- 1[W] fire and u do fire damage = str boonus to all enemies adjacent to the person you hit.
lightning lure - 1d6+ int lightning and pull target to nearest space.
sword burst - 1d6+int force damage
at level 21, the 1[W] becomes 2[W] and the others become 2d6
Regards,
Sanjay
kelemvors channel div feat: basically it's a close blast 5 (increasing as you go lvl 11, and 21)..
it targets undead and does radiiant damage.
I don't know if I should post the exact info here on a forum..may get in trouble...
Sounds a lot like the Pelor CD feat.
Sounds a lot like the Pelor CD feat.
Actually, it sounds EXACTLY alike, except Pelor's Radiance is a burst 1 instead of 5. What a total ripoff the original.
Is there a limit to how many elemental manifestations a Genasi can have?
So any particular reason my question was passed over?
So any particular reason my question was passed over?
Genasi can take the feat Extra Manifestation (Heroic Tier), gaining a new manifestation each time they take the feat, & they can switch between any manifestations they know after a short rest or an extended rest. So basically, the answer is FIVE if they choose to take the feat four times, since that's the number of elemental manifestations to choose from.
It gets even more fun at higher tiers. Some Genasi can improve their manifestation effects through Paragon feats, & taking Double Manifestation once they hit Epic is gonna be too good for most Genasi-running players to pass up.
Any new multiclass feats besides the spellscar ones?
Did they show the deity symbols for the lesser gods in the book since the Greaters are in the Campaign guide?
Any new multiclass feats besides the spellscar ones?
No lesser god symbols, no exarchs, nothing. Worse yet, they re-used the Greater Gods' symbols again, which is a little lame, I guess.
As for multiclass feats, Blade Initiate covers the swordmage MCing. Bring along a 13 Int for training in Arcana. While you're at it, make sure you also bring a blade along so you can use the Swordmage Warding class feature once a day.
Actually, it sounds EXACTLY alike, except Pelor's Radiance is a burst 1 instead of 5. What a total ripoff the original.
the same but way better, miss 1/2 damage, bigger area, attack based on highest mental ability
Wow what a let-down.....wonder why they call it "Eyes"....kinda a crappy Channel Divinity power when you can make a saving throw every round anyway and doesn't guarantee you will make it the second time.
What?!
I don't know about that. It better have some good flavor text! Well, there is that example of multiple divinity feats for Tymora. We can always make more. Poor Selune. 
QUESTION: How much fluff is in the book? More specifically, is their any stuff on cultures and societies?
Do they have stats for half-orc or is it just an Orc clone?
no stats, for ether , but there is about a 1/2 pg of combined 1/2 orc/orc info in the races chapter under "supporting cast" which is all fluff and all so covers gnomes, goblins, lycanthropes/shifters, devas, goliaths and shades in 2 pg's
Do they have stats for half-orc or is it just an Orc clone?
Half-Orc stats are in the PHB2.
the same but way better, miss 1/2 damage, bigger area, attack based on highest mental ability
You need to stop, damn it. I'm supposed to be playing a Paladin of Torm in LFR, damn you, not a Paladin of Kelemvor. Stop trying to convince me otherwise. :P
While you're at it, make sure you also bring a blade along so you can use the Swordmage Warding class feature once a day.
Once a day??? Ugg that stinks
What are the other two 3rd level Swordmage Encounter spells besides Transposing Lunge and Blastback Swipe? What are the other two 1st level Encounter powers besides Chilling blow and Flame Cyclone?
Does the swordmage Intelligent Blademaster feat allow you to use your Intelligence modifier for damage too for basic attacks?
Does the Channel Divinity for Angharradh have a range?
Why do so many of the Channel Divinity feats just seem like copies of each other?? No way do they represent what those individual gods stand for.
How is the art in the book??
QUESTION: How much fluff is in the book? More specifically, is their any stuff on cultures and societies?
at 159 pg's it seems light, if the champaign book is 90% fluff this one is say 45% fluff but that's just a gut eyeball, as for cultures and societies it is not what I have hoped for.
Does the swordmage Intelligent Blademaster feat allow you to use your Intelligence modifier for damage too for basic attacks?
I would say so, but others will say no, I fear that will start some flame wars:D
Does the Channel Divinity for Angharradh have a range?
10
How is the art in the book??
I like the cover and most of the interior art but the chapter plates not so much, had the same complaint with the PHB.
I would say so, but others will say no, I fear that will start some flame wars:D
Hehe
Thanks kave99 for the info! :D
So what powers do Chosen get, and what do those powers do? Thanks.
stat increase
self healing from 0 to 1/2 max 1/day
utility power based on 1 of 11 non evil greater gods
And any info on Dark Elves (not drow)?
Thanks ahead of time :D
Sounds a lot like the Pelor CD feat.
the same but way better, miss 1/2 damage, bigger area, attack based on highest mental ability
Okay, that's MUCH better. Lol. I nearly threw a tantrum. :P
I think I can put together the feat from what you and others have said so far. Tell me if I got this right. I'd like to make it clear that no one on the boards or without revealed to me about the feat word for word. I took whatever was said and expanded upon it. THANKS!
featy goodness
Kelemvor's Judgement
Encounter*Divine, Implement, Radiant
Standard Action
Close Blast 5 (size scales per tier)
Target: Each undead creature in blast
Attack: Wisdom vs. Will
Hit: 1d12 + Wisdom modifier radiant damage, and the target is stunned until the end of your next turn. (damage scales)
Miss: Half damage, and the target is not stunned.
Special: You must take the Kelemvor's Judgement feat to use this power.
Encounter*Divine, Implement, Radiant
Standard Action
Close Blast 5 (size scales per tier)
Target: Each undead creature in blast
Attack: Wisdom vs. Will
Hit: 1d12 + Wisdom modifier radiant damage, and the target is stunned until the end of your next turn. (damage scales)
Miss: Half damage, and the target is not stunned.
Special: You must take the Kelemvor's Judgement feat to use this power.
Torm's Channel Divinity Feat?
+2 bonus to attack rolls vs bloodied foe till end of turn
And any info on Dark Elves (not drow)?
not really other them to say that they a race of dark elves in the introduction, I'd say we have seen a end to that distinction
Okay, that's MUCH better. Lol. I nearly threw a tantrum. :P
re-read the post you quoted
I'm not stunned. you know:D
stat increase
So what stat(s) gets increased?
utility power based on 1 of 11 non evil greater gods
What does the Torm related power do? Thanks a bunch for the answers.
So what stat(s) gets increased?
any 2 at +2
What does the Torm related power do? Thanks a bunch for the answers.
you heal the damage you just dealt the target that triggered the effect
I'm off to bed
Official word: aasimars have been renamed as "Devas." In the Realms at least, they are perpetually reincarnated after they die. The "Supporting Cast" of races is as follows: Gnomes, Goblins (regular, hob-, and bugbear), Lycanthropes and Shifters, Half-Orcs and Orcs, Devas, Goliaths, and Shades. I think that all but Lycanthropes will be featured in PHBII.
Devas is alright. Oh, no, wait!
Devass! Spelling error potential is still there!Are devas going to be a PC race? Hmm...they don't get reincarnated instantly back as an adult of the same level, do they? Maybe I'll play a deva....
at 159 pg's it seems light, if the champaign book is 90% fluff this one is say 45% fluff but that's just a gut eyeball, as for cultures and societies it is not what I have hoped for.
Uh-oh.... Thanks for eyeballing it, though.
Does the Channel Divinity for Angharradh have a range?
Why do so many of the Channel Divinity feats just seem like copies of each other?? No way do they represent what those individual gods stand for.
I think it's cause they're limited to such a weak level of power. However, I'm warming up to the idea of Selune's feat. Still don't know why it's called "Eyes of Selune." Maybe she gives you the craaazy eye and you might break free of an effect.
Oh, and I mentioned it earlier, but there is precedence for a deity having more than one channel divinity feat (Tymora). So that could help on the representation front.
Anyway, thanks again! Believe me, my good man, you will sleep the sleep of the just, tonight. :D
And for the record, Deva is a crappy PC race name. Why didn't they stick with Celestial? Now whenever I hear that PC name mentioned it'll conjure up images of Barbra Streisand.
DEVAS?
RAGE.
Devas?
DEVAS?
RAGE.
To be fair, it could have been much worse. Also, it's not like they haven't already co-opted the name of a now non-existent* outsider race as part of a tweaking. Also, the write-up mentions that they are/were known as aasimar in Mulhorand and Unther.
*-- but not gone in our hearts, or in our homebrews, I'm sure.
*-- but not gone in our hearts, or in our homebrews, I'm sure.
Definitely not gone.
WotC once again destroy my dreams (in this case to establish the aasimon as the new/old paragons of goodness).
I think this is something you could always change.
We will be since we have a player who is an aasimar (planetouched char) but also an NPC who is an actual Deva (aasimon angel).
(you can only imagine all the house rules in my campaign!!!) hehe
I wanted the book for the races and the swordmage...overall, i find the 2 FR books semi-disappointing....the stories/fluff are ok...don't mind it and few things i don't like, i can change if i feel like it.
But game content, the harder stuff to house rule/create seems at a minimum. ALso, with the 4E flavour...where all feats/powers,etc are realy just minor variations on the rest (nothing dramatic...either [W], 2[W], etc damage or 1d6, 2d6, 3d6, and feats just give a modifier to stuff, it seems very basic.
Stuff like the Chosen...if my players ever needed that (doubtful)...I would make up my own Chosen, more of a mix of the 2/3 and 4E versions...similar to what we doing now for custom classes, etc.
Sanjay
Genasi can take the feat Extra Manifestation (Heroic Tier), gaining a new manifestation each time they take the feat, & they can switch between any manifestations they know after a short rest or an extended rest. So basically, the answer is FIVE if they choose to take the feat four times, since that's the number of elemental manifestations to choose from.
It gets even more fun at higher tiers. Some Genasi can improve their manifestation effects through Paragon feats, & taking Double Manifestation once they hit Epic is gonna be too good for most Genasi-running players to pass up.
:D Thank you, five is the answer that I wanted to hear because I have an NPC who was going to be a Genasi with five manifestations. Now to go cackle like a madman over this character.
:D Thank you, five is the answer that I wanted to hear because I have an NPC who was going to be a Genasi with five manifestations. Now to go cackle like a madman over this character.
......shave his head and call him the Avatar please :D
or on the otherhand it could be the realms version of a Super Skrull
so KL´rt might be a fitting nameOfficial word: aasimars have been renamed as "Devas." In the Realms at least, they are perpetually reincarnated after they die. The "Supporting Cast" of races is as follows: Gnomes, Goblins (regular, hob-, and bugbear), Lycanthropes and Shifters, Half-Orcs and Orcs, Devas, Goliaths, and Shades. I think that all but Lycanthropes will be featured in PHBII.
Oh I just noticed this post. There are only five new races in the PHBII which we know includes Shifter, Half-Orc, Gnome, and Goliaths. With Aasiamar's being renamed as Devas, that pretty much confirms the final race(which we knew started with a De).
Also, in the Last Mythal trilogy they introduce a cool storyline about sun elves as tieflings. Is there any mention of this in the tiefling background?
I'm playing a cleric of Ilmater. What is the Martyrdom Channel Divinity feat?
Also, in the Last Mythal trilogy they introduce a cool storyline about sun elves as tieflings. Is there any mention of this in the tiefling background?
not tieflings, Demonfey-sort of like Cambions? in 4e?
I thought they were changing them from being the 'Drow' of the Dwarves to essentially Dwarf-Cambions.
1) do you have any suggestions on how to get adventurer's vault and player's guide before the release date if someone lives in europe?
2) was the bahamut channel divinity posted somewhere.. and if not, what is it? :P
thanks in advance!
Can you post what each of the swordmage paragon paths can do. Or at least what the theme of each are?
I'm also curious how Moon Elf Resilience works. Under what circumstances does it let the character spend a healing surge when using fey step?
With Escalating Assault, how is the +1 to hit "cumulative?"
Just a quick request. Please could you tell me if there is any information on Eladrin/Elven subraces?
2) was the bahamut channel divinity posted somewhere.. and if not, what is it? :P
It's in the PHB. Same goes for Moradin's and Corellon's Channel Divinity Feats.
1) do you have any suggestions on how to get adventurer's vault and player's guide before the release date if someone lives in europe?
biggest/ closest retailer to you, is my bet at this point but try a couple of places, try and avoid customs
2) was the bahamut channel divinity posted somewhere.. and if not, what is it? :P!
see GreenKnights posts
Name: Berronar’s Salve
Prerequisites: Channel Divinity class feature, must worship Bahamut
Benefit: Use Channel Divinity to invoke Berronar’s salve
It's in the PHB. Same goes for Moradin's and Corellon's Channel Divinity Feats.
GreenKnight
Wait, Bahamut does have a Channel Divinity Feat? Or are you mistaking it for Berronar's Salve? I mention it because there's an error in the preview, and if it's repeated in the book, it could lead one to make that mistake.
Name: Berronar’s Salve
Prerequisites: Channel Divinity class feature, must worship Bahamut
Benefit: Use Channel Divinity to invoke Berronar’s salve
I was unaware of the error, it makes sense but I missed it. is there conformation on this. good catch:embarrassCould one of the people that has the book post the table of contents?
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chapter 1 races :
drow and genasi -- full
PHB races in FR -- fluff
supporting cast of races(PHB2)/ monster PC's -- fluff
chapter 2 classes :
sworedmage --full
warlock dark pact -- expansion
paragon paths 25 in all
ED the Chosen -- for 11 good ish gods
chapter 3 backgrounds :
27 parts of the FR like the Elfharrow excerpt
chapter 4 feats:
41 heroic,12 paragon, 2 epic and 2 multiclass
chapter 5 rituals:
24 in total half are for levels 6 to 14
chapter 6 almanac:
way to short!
Was there mention of Duergar anywhere?
I thought they were changing them from being the 'Drow' of the Dwarves to essentially Dwarf-Cambions.
Duergar are in H2 Thunderspire Labyrinth. They're more like Dwarf-Tieflings. I assume they'll be in MM2.
Was there mention of Duergar anywhere?
I thought they were changing them from being the 'Drow' of the Dwarves to essentially Dwarf-Cambions.
not that I'v seen
Since your at it, can you check if there is a Fire power for the Swordmage at every level? I'm playing a tielfing Swordmage at LFR and I'm using the Hellfire Blood feat, so I'm trying to get a fire power at every level.
no but there are a lot of good ones, so you should be happy.
I assume if you multiclass into the Spellscarred class you can't multiclass into anything else?
right you are
kave99, could you post what some of the Channel Divinity feats do? I'm specifically interested in Ilmater's.
ally in blast who is hit by a critical triggers bonus surge and spends it
In the backgrounds section do they have one for Halruaa or the Swordcoast/Loudwater region?
Also, how's the artwork in this one?
If so, what do they do ?
Thank you !
ally in blast who is hit by a critical triggers bonus surge and spends it
Cool, thanks kave99!
Just another quick question, is it an encounter or daily power? And does it have the healing keyword (so clerics can add their wis modifier)?
Oh so jealous! Have to wait a week til I can get my grubby mitts on a copy.
In the backgrounds section do they have one for Halruaa or the Swordcoast/Loudwater region??
Halruaa, no Swordcoast/Loudwater region, yes
on this, the description of Loudwater dose not match the one in FRPG
Also, how's the artwork in this one?
I like the cover and most of the interior art but the chapter plates not so much, had the same complaint with the PHB.
Cool, thanks kave99!
Just another quick question, is it an encounter or daily power? And does it have the healing keyword (so clerics can add their wis modifier)?
encounter power
healing keyword --YES
If you could provide a lowdown on the Selune and Simbarch PP's, I would be much obliged.
Is there any racial feats for the Drow ?
If so, what do they do ?
Thank you !
YES PARAGON: 2 that effect racial powers and the ones from the preview
Any info on the spellscars?
covered all ready please read the thread
covered all ready please read the thread
I apologize, I should of rephrased my question. From reading the thread all I have seen is an emphasis on the multiclass and not the scars themselves. I was curious about the choices and what if any benefits there were. Thanks.
Is Ilmater included in the Chosen? Is there anything in the book about Ilmater other than the feat?
Thanks for the info.
If you could provide a lowdown on the Selune and Simbarch PP's, I would be much obliged.
this is going to be really short, sorry
Selune good against shape shifters, open to arcane classes too and uses there prime stat
don't know if we know this but bard is confirmed as arcane
extra healing surges,and related healing bonuses. technically able to clam a seat on the ruling council
Thanks again!
Is Ilmater included in the Chosen? Is there anything in the book about Ilmater other than the feat?
no
id really appreciate it :D, i dont like tieflings too much but im just so cruious, espicially with the Scion of the Gods feat they have
What are their level 29 powers?
I apologize, I should of rephrased my question. From reading the thread all I have seen is an emphasis on the multiclass and not the scars themselves. I was curious about the choices and what if any benefits there were. Thanks.
there are two choices per level, 7th level has 3. It's a bit of a Hodge podge, looks like it's good for all classes but I have yet to really take a hard look at the powers.
what about the tieflings role? whats the fluff there (summarized obvioulsy)?
id really appreciate it :D, i dont like tieflings too much but im just so cruious, espicially with the Scion of the Gods feat they have
pretty much as you would expect, gives good background on where they flourish, it's only 3/4 of a pg
What are the different Swordmage Paragon Paths? Like, what does each path do?
What are their level 29 powers?
anarch of Shyr - Swordmage, aegis of assault
A tradition from Abeir , harness elemental chaos and is all offensive
coronal Guard - Swordmage
vary bladesinger/eladrin Esq style, vary defensive
umbriri - Swordmage
Netherese tradition, shadowy and roguish, linked to shades
wandering Swordmage - Swordmage
Un aligned and open, kind of catch all for master-less masters and jacks of all trades , Wis bonuses to stuff, if you play your Swordmage like a 3ed bard you will like this.
I'm currently throwing together a firesoul genasi assault swordmage > anarch of Shyr > demigod who adds the stormsoul manifestation at paragon level & goes for Double Manifestation at epic level. He's gonna be like a walking cataclysm with a broadsword, & if you're not immune or at least resistant to fire or lightning, don't get in his way!
:DHaven't had time to thumb through it yet, since I am busy doing RPG business of my own - but so far looks solid, but not as detailed as the 3rd Edition book in regards to player options (but a lot of role-playing info).
However, I do like the toned down feel of the setting.
I got mine today. Happen to see it at Borders while passing through - guessed they released it early.
Haven't had time to thumb through it yet, since I am busy doing RPG business of my own - but so far looks solid, but not as detailed as the 3rd Edition book in regards to player options (but a lot of role-playing info).
However, I do like the toned down feel of the setting.
I called 2 roleplaying/comic stores and neither of them have copies. Buy.com says they are available but they haven't sent mine in over 2 days.
I am going to check with Borders as I am tired of waiting.
UPDATE: Bah my Borders didn't get their copies in yet - they said Friday. I also tried another comic store and they said next week. Bah
Hey! What about OROGS?! they are rgeat characters
I haven't noticed any references to them or their demonic cousins, the tanarukks. So much for the tanarukks coming into conflict with the Kingdom of Many Arrows & junk...
1) What are the regional benefits associated with a character from Narfell?
2) Can the spellscar feat be taken at 1st level and, if so, what are the requirements / options / benefits / choices / etc. that I would need to know to take one?
I definitely appreciate any help I can get and promise to pay it forward. :P
ilmater feat - ally in burst hit by critical, they can gain one healing surge and use it. you lose that surge.
No mention of the elf tieflings from the novels...i will surely houserule them when needed (had an idea for them in my games)
intelligent blademaster - it says with a melee weapon so yeah..anythign really.
moon elf resilience - eladrin, if use fey ste when bloodied and no allies within 5, can use healing surge for free.
Escalating Assault - it says u get a +1 for each basic melee attack granted via aegis of assault (up to 3)
drow racial feats - clutch of darkness, ruthless hunter
Regards,
Sanjay
moon elf resilience - eladrin, if use fey ste when bloodied and no allies within 5, can use healing surge for free.
Hmm that sounds cool - just have to make sure you move 5 away from your allies then use Fey step next round to get the free healing surge.
Is the Swordmage spellbook just like the wizard spellbook?
Does the swordmage multiclass feat give you the Arcana skill free?
to get a spellscar, you have to choose it at level 1..like u and DM agree, that u have a spell scar (it talks a bit of benefits/flaws). Then, you can take the Student of the Plague feat....and you can go on from there it appears.
regions in book with a benefit:
aglarond
akanul
amn
baldur's gate
calimshan
chessenta
cormyr
dalelands
dragon caost
durpar
east rift
elfharrow
gray vale
great dale
high imaskar
impiltur
luruar
luskan
moonshae isles
myth drannor
narfell
nelanther isles
netheril
thay
tymanther
vilhon wilds
waterdeep
baldurs gate - add any language u want. add streetwise as a skill with a +2 bonus
few paragraphs on elves/eladrin the race section art the start...
swordmage paragon paths:
anarch of shyr - 11 - sped action, u can make an extra basic melee , 11 when use aegis of assault, you gain +2 to hit, lvl 16 - range to use aegis of asasult inceases to 20 squares
Coronal guard: lvl 11 -+2 defenses when use action pt, lvl 11 - 10+con hp extra when using aegis of shielding (hp goes up at lvl 21), lvl 16-swordmage warding bonus goes up by 1
Umbriri -lvl 11 when use action pt, all adjacent allies gain concealment lvl 11-gain resist cecrotic =5+half level. When using aegis power resit value goes up by 10 and u deal 5 necrotic damage lvl 16-gain combat advantage if you have concealment
wandering swordmage - lvl 11 - add wisdom bonus to histor checks lvl 11- when use action, teleport 5 squares before using the action, lvl 16-when u get hit by critical, u get wisdom bonus to attack/damage rolls for encoonter
Regards,
Sanjay
i am not familiar with wizards spellbooks cause we houserule our magic system totally , so clerics and wizards are essentialyl 90% rewrite classes for us. only warlocks, swordsages, etc will work via teh books as is (with fewer house rules)...
swordmage multiclass feat - it says you gain training in arcana skill.
No,no fire powers at each level.. it seems a split between: fire, thunder, cold, force, weapon, and whatever the other one i am missing.... so some levels have no cold, others have no fire, etc.
They have several powers that let them do short range teleports or paragon paths that allow similar teleports.
gotta go work on a miniature for a painting competition. later.
Regards,
Sanjay
i am not familiar with wizards spellbooks cause we houserule our magic system totally , so clerics and wizards are essentialyl 90% rewrite classes for us. only warlocks, swordsages, etc will work via teh books as is (with fewer house rules)...
hehe yeah my group has house-ruled alot of things already. We have new Healing surge rules (to give penalties the more you use to make it more realistic) and created new feats that grant additional "known" powers if you spend the feats to get them.
Next we are redoing the Skill system. :D
1) What are the regional benefits associated with a character from Narfell?
endurance as class skill, +3 to skill
2) Can the spellscar feat be taken at 1st level and, if so, what are the requirements / options / benefits / choices / etc. that I would need to know to take one?
yes but I would say do it in game. first it's more fun and second it's way to complex for me to do it justice without copying it hole sale.
just to clarify sanjay a spellscar can be gained at any time with the DM OK
What region have benefits other than the 12 we've seen in the LFR Preview?
EDIT: List already provided.
Odd enough that there are no background entries for some areas like Chult or the Underdark, but what I find astounding is that Returned Abeir also gets snubbed. That was a shock for me, considering how much they've pumped up the whole "twin worlds collide" schtick. Hopefully, (many) more backgrounds are forthcoming in a future Dragon issue, 'cause so far, this list is obviously sorely lacking.
The two other Genasi PPs were mentioned, but I didn't notice something on the Elemental Tempest PP. If it was posted could someone point me to it, or could some info get posted on it, please?
Go to the Char Op forum & find the "Genasi: Now with even more power!" thread for a neat temporary hit point trick I figured out using the Elemental Tempest paragon path & a couple feats from the Genasi article in Dragon 367.
I won't go into more details about it now, but hopefully if you like what you see, it'll make it that much sweeter when you get your copy.
The two other Genasi PPs were mentioned, but I didn't notice something on the Elemental Tempest PP. If it was posted could someone point me to it, or could some info get posted on it, please?
two manifestations that blend seamlessly
two or more manifestations that blend seamlessly
Actually, you can only manifest two at any one time, but at least you can use both manifestations' encounter powers in the same encounter. You could still take Extra Manifestation four times to eventually access all of them, though you would only be able to use a maximum of three different manifestations in one encounter once per day by taking Fast Manifestation (from Dragon 367).
Not every region gets a bonus? Huh, that's odd. So even if I get an RPGA card that lets me select a region for a character outside of the main 12, I can't give a character Vesperin, as it doesn't have a regional bonus. Damn, that sucks.
no, there is a regional benefit for each of the 27 that are detailed in the book the rest will probably end up in dragon
So what're the benefits of being from Luskan, Myth Drannor, and Netheril?
Ah, here I was thinking that every region in the FRCG would get an entry.
So what're the benefits of being from Luskan, Myth Drannor, and Netheril?
add stealth and thievery to class list & +1 to each
re-roll save vs charm 1 per encounter
add arcana and history to class list & +1 to each
There are heroic tier racial feats that provide bonuses to defenses: "broken shackles" for the dragonborn and "scion of the gods" for the tieflings.
Are those feat bonuses, racial bonuses or untyped bonuses? This could be important for some of my characters.
Thanks!
Quick question:
There are heroic tier racial feats that provide bonuses to defenses: "broken shackles" for the dragonborn and "scion of the gods" for the tieflings.
Are those feat bonuses, racial bonuses or untyped bonuses? This could be important for some of my characters.
Thanks!
"broken shackles" feat bonus for will def & untyped for charm
"scion of the gods" feat bonus
What (if any) level 1&2 swordmage powers are detailed that weren't in the preview?
Preview had
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At-Will:
Booming Blade
Greenflame Blade
Lightning Lure
Swordmage
1 Encounter:
Chilling Blow
Flame Cyclone
1 Daily:
Burning Blade
Frost Backlash
2 Utility:
Dimensional Warp
Eldrich Speed
At-Will:
Booming Blade
Greenflame Blade
Lightning Lure
Swordmage
1 Encounter:
Chilling Blow
Flame Cyclone
1 Daily:
Burning Blade
Frost Backlash
2 Utility:
Dimensional Warp
Eldrich Speed
nelanther - add acrobatics and athletics to class skill list and gain +1 bonus to acrobatics and athletics checks.
swordmage level 1/2 power list:
class features: aegis of assault, aegis of shieldng
level 1 at will - booming blade, greenflame blade, lightning lure, sword burst
level 1 enc - chilling blow, flame cyclone, foesnare, lightning clash
lvl 1 daily - burning blade, frost backlash, whirling blade
level 2 util - dimensional warp, eldritch speed, fear no elements, mythal recovery
Regards,
Sanjay
nelanther - add acrobatics and athletics to class skill list and gain +1 bonus to acrobatics and athletics checks.
Ha, that was the best guess ever so I didn't lead the player wrong there (shoop-de-whoop etc). The other one seems to be quite powerful though (+2 to saves and free language).
Sanjay - what does Lightning Clash and Whirling Blade do?
mythal recovery - make extra save against an effect that a save can end...
lightning clash - [W] + int bonus damage and gain sec. attack. sec attack = 1d6+ int lightning damage
whirl - 2[W]+int bonus damage and weapon returns to hand (it's a ranged 5 attack)
Sanjay
Sanjay
lightning clash - [W] + int bonus damage and gain sec. attack. sec attack = 1d6+ int lightning damage
whirl - 2[W]+int bonus damage and weapon returns to hand (it's a ranged 5 attack)
Wow they both sound cool!! - what are the 3rd level new Swordmage powers?
I know it is a Daily power for them but wondered how long it lasts since it isn't an instantaneous effect like all the other powers for the multi-class feats like the multiclass cleric's Healing Word.
Thanks a bunch for sharing.
What (if any) level 1&2 swordmage powers are detailed that weren't in the preview?
1 Encounter:
foesnare -- (basic melee attack)
lightning clash
1 Daily:
whirling blade --throw your sword
2 Utility:
fear no elements (daily)
mythal recovery ( encounter) --free save vs on going effect
Any of the spellscar abilities/powers include the ability to detect/sense undead? Thanks.
not that I see
Does the multiclass version of Warding for a Swordmage last just for one encounter or for the whole day?
one encounter
one encounter
Thanks for the info!!
Also, in the Last Mythal trilogy they introduce a cool storyline about sun elves as tieflings.
Just for your information, the fey'ri predated that novel series.
What do the Drow racial feats do?
master of fire and darkness use both lolothtouched powers once each per encounter
merciless killer extra damage when you have combat advantage
venomous heritage gain poison resistance and bonus to saving thrower vs poison
Thanks for all the info. This is not really a specific question but, I'd love to get a taste of some of the swordmage's upper level utilities (level 6+ and paragon path features). I'm getting really excited about this class.
So true, I don't have the book yet and so haven't seen all of their tricks, but this is already looking like its the class that I've always wanted to play, but was never really done right until now...
Thanks for all the info. This is not really a specific question but, I'd love to get a taste of some of the swordmage's upper level utilities (level 6+ and paragon path features). I'm getting really excited about this class.
with out getting to specific they seem to fall into 3 types, perception, short range teleportation, and saves/AC bonus or penalties. I'm vary happy with the way its turned out too
.I called 2 roleplaying/comic stores and neither of them have copies. Buy.com says they are available but they haven't sent mine in over 2 days.
I am going to check with Borders as I am tired of waiting.
UPDATE: Bah my Borders didn't get their copies in yet - they said Friday. I also tried another comic store and they said next week. Bah
I am sorry to hear that. Here in Augusta, Georgia they had about 8 copies on the shelf. I guess it is a fluke, but I will look there first when the equipment guide is close to release.
one encounter
That's powerfull given that the paladin and fighter powers only last a single round. Didn't expect that
PS: Could you please give a short overview which tertiary stat is important for the swordmage paragon paths?
You mention Wis for the wandering swordmage and being rogue-like I just make a wild guess that it's Dex for the umbiri swordmage. But what stat is best for the others?
That's powerfull given that the paladin and fighter powers only last a single round. Didn't expect that
well it's a daily rather then a encounter
PS: Could you please give a short overview which tertiary stat is important for the swordmage paragon paths?
anarch of Shyr - swordsage, aegis of assault --- none
coronal Guard - swordmage --- wis/con
umbriri - swordmage --- str
wandering swordmage - swordmage ---wis
its kind of strange. but not that important
well it's a daily rather then a encounter
That makes sense.
[...]
Thanks.
anarch of Shyr - swordsage, aegis of assault --- none
coronal Guard - swordmage --- wis/con
umbriri - swordmage --- str
wandering swordmage - swordmage ---wis
its kind of strange. but not that important
Do their 11th level and 20th level attack powers use those stats, or are they based on Int?
Do their 11th level and 20th level attack powers use those stats, or are they based on Int?
all are int based but the Umbriri's 11th is str based but thats the only thing that is.
I am sorry to hear that. Here in Augusta, Georgia they had about 8 copies on the shelf. I guess it is a fluke, but I will look there first when the equipment guide is close to release.
I tried Barnes & Noble, 2 more Borders and 2 more comic books stores and none of them have copies.
Florida feels left out....I mean I know our voting is always screwed up here in Florida but we shouldn't get punished for it by making us wait for our Player's Guides so long....I swear it isn't our fault
A question about the race section, for races that are already detailed in the PHB. What information (headers, sections, etc) do they put in for pre-existing races (like elves, eladrin, etc.)?
"Description & Homelands" then "Playing a race in the Toril"
Swordmages seem to have wisdom and charisma as dump-stats. They aren't going to have a great will defense. Do they get any utilities or powers that boost Will defenses? Protect against charm, psychic and fear effects? Anything like that?
They do gain a +2 bonus to will defense.
swordmage paragon paths:
Coronal guard: lvl 11 -+2 defenses when use action pt, lvl 11 - 10+con hp extra when using aegis of shielding (hp goes up at lvl 21), lvl 16-swordmage warding bonus goes up by 1
Can someone explain the aegis of sheilding one a little more? Compared to the other paragon paths, +1 AC at 16 and +2 def on an AP seem pretty weak.
If you get extra damage mitigation from your aegis of shielding that would be powerful enough to balance out, but the "hp" makes me wonder if I'm reading it wrong.
if anyone can 'cover' for me, please do.
will try 2 do some tomorrow night or saturday
sorry..
Sanjay
They do gain a +2 bonus to will defense.
Yes...but neither wisdom nor charisma do much for a swordmage (primary stats are strength, constitution and intelligence) so they are likely to have a weak will defense even with the +2 bonus (their reflex and fortitude defenses will continually rise due to stat boosts). I was wondering if any utilities did anything to plug up that weakness.
sorry folks..busy tonite..so won't be posting any info..feats, etc.
if anyone can 'cover' for me, please do.
will try 2 do some tomorrow night or saturday
sorry..
Sanjay
Thanks Sanjay for everything! :D
Spellfire, Silver Fire, and Moonfire are all powers that can appear on your character sheet (though not all on the same character sheet)...even if you are not a Chosen, a cleric, or a kitchen lass from Highmoon.
Though to anyone who knows their lore and has seen the table of contents it is pretty easy to guess where they come from
What abilities do spellscar powers rely on? Or can you choose between wisdom, intelligence, and charisma
your close, most if not all are ether mental or physical so you can chose powers that play off your best stats
Can someone explain the aegis of sheilding one a little more? Compared to the other paragon paths, +1 AC at 16 and +2 def on an AP seem pretty weak..
+1 AC at 16 level for a total of +4 to ac with a empty off hand or +2 total with a full off hand
If you get extra damage mitigation from your aegis of shielding that would be powerful enough to balance out, but the "hp" makes me wonder if I'm reading it wrong.
for the exact aegis of shielding read this http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/4ex/20080826a
at lvl 11 a coronal guard gets 10+con extra temp HP when using aegis of shielding (hp goes up at lvl 21)
in essence a little healing frequently
I was under the impression that Spellscars were tied to Spellfire. Is that correct? If so, is there an option for firing Spellfire blasts?
short answer is no and no, the long answer as I see it is that Spellfire, Spellscars and the Spellplage all draw there power from the weave or threads of what's left of it. I haven't seen any reference to Spellfire in the 4th ed books and kind of think it's gone with the unraveling of the weave, but all thats just a hunch on my part.
Swordmages seem to have wisdom and charisma as dump-stats. They aren't going to have a great will defense. Do they get any utilities or powers that boost Will defenses? Protect against charm, psychic and fear effects? Anything like that?
I already know that they get a +2 will defense bonus. I am more interested in powers/utilities.
From my previous post:
Swordmages seem to have wisdom and charisma as dump-stats. They aren't going to have a great will defense. Do they get any utilities or powers that boost Will defenses? Protect against charm, psychic and fear effects? Anything like that?
I already know that they get a +2 will defense bonus. I am more interested in powers/utilities.
sorry for the delay. I don't see any
off to sleep
chessenta
Sanjay
Chessenta? That's a neat trick... Thought the place was "gone" from Faerun?
master of fire and darkness use both lolothtouched powers once each per encounter
merciless killer extra damage when you have combat advantage
venomous heritage gain poison resistance and bonus to saving thrower vs poison
Merciless killer, how much are we talking here? Is that actually a viable feat... (may be interresting)
- Are there interesting feats for rangers?
- Could you post a few words about the "Demonslayer" paragon path?
Cheers,
Michael
Moonfire
Cool! What does it say about Moonfire and how do you get it??
Does Angharradh's favor give a +4 power bonus to all of an ally's saving throws? Is it a minor action to use the feat?
Any mention of Psionics in the book?
Merciless killer, how much are we talking here? Is that actually a viable feat... (may be interresting)
+5, merciless killer extra damage when you have combat advantage vs a bloodied foe
short answer is no and no, the long answer as I see it is that Spellfire, Spellscars and the Spellplage all draw there power from the weave or threads of what's left of it. I haven't seen any reference to Spellfire in the 4th ed books and kind of think it's gone with the unraveling of the weave, but all thats just a hunch on my part.
No references, you say? Either you're referring to the novels (in which case I apologize for pointing this out), or you're just not looking hard enough, 'cause the Spellscarred Savant paragon path is riddled with references to spellfire.
A couple of the Spellscarred Savant's path features & their 12th level utility power have "spellfire" written all over them (literally), & the path's descriptive text also specifically states that they "tap into the raw magical energy known as spellfire." It seems to me that they're intended to take the torch from Magic of Faerun's Spellfire Channeler PrC in a big way. Fluff-wise, I'd hazard a guess that the "blue fire" mentioned all over the 4e FR books was actually spellfire itself, turned loose on the universe.
- Is there anything on Wood Elves/ Wild Elves? (fluff and/or rules)?
vary little
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- Are there interesting feats for rangers?
none
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- Could you post a few words about the "Demonslayer" paragon path?
gut reaction not so good unless you are fighting a lot of demons
11th demonslayer blade extra damage to hunters quarry
11th deamonslayer's wrath spend AP to impose -to ac on all adjacent foes
twice as good vs demons
16th remove resistances from demon you hit
A11E demonslayer hindrance str damage +immobilize or slow
U12E demonward triggered typed resistance vs attacker last till next turn
A20D demonbane flurry 3{w} +ongoing damage
No references, you say? Either you're referring to the novels (in which case I apologize for pointing this out), or you're just not looking hard enough, 'cause the Spellscarred Savant paragon path is riddled with references to Spellfire.
A couple of the Spellscarred Savant's path features & their 12th level utility power have "Spellfire" written all over them (literally), & the path's descriptive text also specifically states that they "tap into the raw magical energy known as Spellfire." It seems to me that they're intended to take the torch from Magic of Faerun's Spellfire Channeler PrC in a big way. Fluff-wise, I'd hazard a guess that the "blue fire" mentioned all over the 4e FR books was actually Spellfire itself, turned loose on the universe.
missed that when I posted, thanks for pointing it out :embarrass
thou it probably colored my long answer
vary little
none
To expand on this, there are a pair of feats (one for Wild, one for Wood) that are mutually exclusive. That really seems to be the only mechanical differentiation, beyond potentially regional bonuses.
There aren't any feats for Rangers, at all. There are some things for other classes that they might find useful if they were to spend the resources to go get it, but nothing that applies directly.
gut reaction not so good unless you are fighting a lot of demons
11th demonslayer blade extra damage to hunters quarry
11th deamonslayer's wrath spend AP to impose -to ac on all adjacent foes
twice as good vs demons
16th remove resistances from demon you hit
A11E demonslayer hindrance str damage +immobilize or slow
U12E demonward triggered typed resistance vs attacker last till next turn
A20D demonbane flurry 3{w} +ongoing damage
I like it because it's something I can use as a baseline for designing other "hunter" type classes, in conjunction with the Beast Hunter from the PHB. You're right, though, it's not that great unless you're up against a LOT of demons.
+1 AC at 16 level for a total of +4 to ac with a empty off hand or +2 total with a full off hand
Not looking at the whole thing, just what the paragon path gives you. At 16 you get less than the shield spec feat that gives +1 ac and reflex. In fact I see no reason why a defensive swordmage wouldn't take the +1 warding and a shield over just the +3 warding. The shield means a total +3 to AC from your off hand, plus +2 ref. That could be increased to +5 AC and +3 Ref with the coronal lvl 16 ability and the shield feat.
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for the exact aegis of shielding read this http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/4ex/20080826a
at lvl 11 a coronal guard gets 10+con extra temp HP when using aegis of shielding (hp goes up at lvl 21)
in essence a little healing frequently
Not bad - though it's only going to be useful when enemies are going back and forth between attacking you and others. All one or all the other and it won't be very useful.
It's funny, looking at the PHB there are several fighter, paladin, wizard, and warlord provide much better synergy with offensive and defensive swordmages than this path does.
Now look at the cost of 2 feats to get heavy shield proficiency. I can get the same ac as you with the heavy shield without spending the extra feats, and get +2 reflex from lightning reflexes, and still be one feat ahead.
Yes, I would be one point of reflex behind, but considering that is our strongest save due to int, I don't see a big deal on that. I would rather have the feat to spend on something else, like say Iron Will to shore up that weak will defense.
Not looking at the whole thing, just what the paragon path gives you. At 16 you get less than the shield spec feat that gives +1 ac and reflex. In fact I see no reason why a defensive swordmage wouldn't take the +1 warding and a shield over just the +3 warding. The shield means a total +3 to AC from your off hand, plus +2 ref. That could be increased to +5 AC and +3 Ref with the coronal lvl 16 ability and the shield feat.
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for the exact aegis of shielding read this http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/4ex/20080826a
at lvl 11 a coronal guard gets 10+con extra temp HP when using aegis of shielding (hp goes up at lvl 21)
in essence a little healing frequently
Not bad - though it's only going to be useful when enemies are going back and forth between attacking you and others. All one or all the other and it won't be very useful.
It's funny, looking at the PHB there are several fighter, paladin, wizard, and warlord provide much better synergy with offensive and defensive swordmages than this path does.
Anyone able to post the details on the Elemental Assault feat for Genasi swordmages?
When you use the ageis of assault you gain a +3 damage bonus based on your manifestation.
I just got home with the book.
When you use the ageis of assault you gain a +3 damage bonus based on your manifestation.
I just got home with the book.
What does "based on your manifestation" mean? Does it mean that your manifestation determines the type of the damage?
What does "based on your manifestation" mean? Does it mean that your manifestation determines the type of the damage?
Yeah. It's based on the element you're aligned with at the time, which some Genesai have the ability to change (via feats).
Yeah. It's based on the element you're aligned with at the time, which some Genesai have the ability to change (via feats).
What type of damage do Earthsoul and Watersoul do? They don't get any resistance types.
Well there are several reasons. First you need to remove AC from shield spec out of the equation, as that does not stack with hide specialization which the swordmage would have otherwise. This leaves you with +4 ac, +3 ref with a shield (at the cost of 2 feats), vs +4 ac with the swordmage warding.
Now look at the cost of 2 feats to get heavy shield proficiency. I can get the same ac as you with the heavy shield without spending the extra feats, and get +2 reflex from lightning reflexes, and still be one feat ahead.
Yes, I would be one point of reflex behind, but considering that is our strongest save due to int, I don't see a big deal on that. I would rather have the feat to spend on something else, like say Iron Will to shore up that weak will defense.
Just my opinion of course, but I find the shield vs no shield thing to be a wash. Since you need to spend a feat to be proficient in hide, it's three feats (hide prof, hide spec, and lightning reflexes) to get +7 AC and +2 Ref verse three feats (light shield prof, heavy shield prof, and shield spec) to get +6 AC and +2 Ref and the ability to utilize a magical shield and whatever abilities it might have.
My point was though that the Coronal Guard doesn't seem to grab me like I was hoping. I'll reserve judgement until I see everything, but I think I'd much rather spend a feat to multi into paladin and then use the Champion of order A11 to weaken and daze my mark for the rest of combat and then effectively ignore him, or take Kensai or one of the wizard paragon paths before I'd go with Coronal Guardian. Though maybe the powers are so good they make up for it.
What type of damage do Earthsoul and Watersoul do? They don't get any resistance types.
Earth: force
Water: acid
Earth: force
Water: acid
Wow, I always thought that Earth should deal force damage, but water doing acid damage is a bit of a suprise to me.But anyway...
I like the mostly non-class specific paragon paths and hope they do this kinda stuff for PHBII
What are the level 29 dailys for sword mages?
not really sure how explicit about the text I can be, dont wanna get ban hammered, sorry
One thing that confuses me is that some swordmage powers have "stance" in the description but nowhere does it describe what a stance is.
For example, the SM power of Dimensional Warding - It says the burst creates a zone that lasts as long as the stance persists. What does that mean????
got my copy now too
One thing that confuses me is that some swordmage powers have "stance" in the description but nowhere does it describe what a stance is.
For example, the SM power of Dimensional Warding - It says the burst creates a zone that lasts as long as the stance persists. What does that mean????
Stances are covered in the PHB - Fighters have several.
What are the level 29 dailys for sword mages?
Astral Thunder Blade -- melee area effect centered on target and stun & damage to secondary damage
Obliterating Blaze -- melee attack, if it hits the target explodes when target drops to 0 HP, frying those around target
Vorpal Doom -- melee attack, massive damage & high crit.
spellfire may be gone in the 4E universe in the way we know it (unless you house rule it and make it up yourself)
Sanjay
Heroic:
angharradh's favor
avowed dragon foe
berronar's salve
blessing of silvanus
roken shackles
chauntea's blessing
clutch of darkness
elemental assault
escalating assault
extra manifestation
eyes of selune
fleetness of mielikki
ghostiwse heritage
glittergolds gambit
gold dwarf pride
gond's craft
ilmater's martyrdom
improved swordbond
intelligent blademaster
kelemvor's judgement
manifest resistance
moon elf resilience
oghma's recall
power of amaunator
retributive shield
rigtheous rage of tempus
ruthless hunter
scion of the gods
sheela peryroyl's gift
shield of shadows
shield the fallen
stubborn survivor
student of sword magic
sun elf grace
sune's touch
torm's justice
Tymora's coin
versatile resistance
waukeen's silver tongue
wild elf luck
wood elf agility
paragon:
demonweb spiral
distant swordbond
double aegis
improved darkspiral aura
master of fire and darkness
merciless killer
moongleam oath
shocking flame
stoneguard
stormrider
venomous heritage
war wizardry
epic:
double manifestation
total aegis
multicass:
blade initiate
student of the plague
Regards,
Sanjay
Stances are covered in the PHB - Fighters have several.
thank you
**snip**
double aegis
improved darkspiral aura
master of fire and darkness
merciless killer
moongleam oath
shocking flame
stoneguard
stormrider
venomous heritage
war wizardry
epic:
double manifestation
total aegis
**snip**
I'm going to assume Double Aegis allows one to mark two separate targets with an Aegis, which I think will be rather made of awesome. Total Aegis I'm not so sure of it...I mean, in terms of the word total, my brain starts thinking "So...it marks everything? O.o" That just seems like it would be a bit much, even at epic levels. Or maybe it refers to the ac bonus as opposed to the marking ability?
War Wizard and Shocking Flame sound intriguing. Could someone possibly shed a bit of light on them?
I'm going to assume Double Aegis allows one to mark two separate targets with an Aegis, which I think will be rather made of awesome. Total Aegis I'm not so sure of it...I mean, in terms of the word total, my brain starts thinking "So...it marks everything? O.o" That just seems like it would be a bit much, even at epic levels. Or maybe it refers to the ac bonus as opposed to the marking ability?
that would be about right
War Wizard and Shocking Flame sound intriguing. Could someone possibly shed a bit of light on them?
War Wizard --helps protect allies from your area of effects
Shocking Flame-- a bit of extra damage with fire or stormsoul, Genasi only
There is a picture of a female mage with a dragon on her arm, the artist called it "The Magister" ....so can you please tell us something about the context in the book ?
sorry I don't see it
sorry I don't see it
http://ironshod.deviantart.com/art/Magister-96929729 maybe it was cut, thanks anyway.
I think it interesting that spellfire and silver fire both still exist. However, they are not "unique" and can now be learned.
That picture is not in the book sorry.
Banpai,
That picture is not in the book sorry.
Well maybe it was cut, thanks anyway.
Shocking Flame-- a bit of extra damage with fire or stormsoul, Genasi only
As this is a Paragon Tier Feat AND Race-restricted, is it in any way better than unrestricted Heroic Tier Feats like Raging Storm and Astral Fire or stacks with them? Racial bonus instead of Feat bonus maybe?
As this is a Paragon Tier Feat AND Race-restricted, is it in any way better than unrestricted Heroic Tier Feats like Raging Storm and Astral Fire or stacks with them? Racial bonus instead of Feat bonus maybe?
I'm guessing Shocking Flame will be dealing with those two type of Genasi's racial powers, not powers of those elements in general.
In regards to Lightning Clash, the secondary attack does 1d6+int damage, but do you still get your weapon's proficiency bonus on the roll? And is it safe to assume both attacks target AC?
And what about the other level 1 encounter power, Foesnare? What's that one all about?
Thanks for taking the time to post all these answers guys. I really can't wait to get my hands on my copy and see EVERYTHING =D
can anyone give me some info on what does the high forest scout paragon path ?
many thanks
Detail Double Aegis, and Total Aegis, and possibly add if there's anything warlord-related in there too...
I'd like to know what "Righteous Rage of Tempus" does.
It's an encounter that allows the next attack you make before the end of your next turn an automatic critical hit. Pretty nifty.
I am curious, What is the exact wording of the Intelligent Blademaster Feat? Someone else posted their opinion of it from reading but i would like to make my own judgements if it is really that vague.
It says you can use Int instead of Str when making a basic melee attack. Honestly, I don't see what the big deal is. You either use Int or Str, by the strength of your arm or precise strikes.
Fellow FRPG owners, got a question. In page 143, Divine Sight ritual. Anyone see the flavor text cut in half by details of the ritual? After one line, the flavor text stops, then has the bold lettered details, then continues. wth! This is a serious editing mistake.
I am curious, What is the exact wording of the Intelligent Blademaster Feat? Someone else posted their opinion of it from reading but i would like to make my own judgements if it is really that vague.
it's really open To interpretation, all try to paraphrase yet keep the the vagueness of it
use INT MOD instead of STR MOD when making a melee basic attack with a weapon
It says you can use Int instead of Str when making a basic melee attack. Honestly, I don't see what the big deal is. You either use Int or Str, by the strength of your arm or precise strikes.:
I'm with you but I foresaw some disagreement on whether you add the INT mod to both to hit and damage I say yes but I bet others will not, just look at this thread
http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=1078915
wish it wasn't so but it is what it is.
Fellow FRPG owners, got a question. In page 143, Divine Sight ritual. Anyone see the flavor text cut in half by details of the ritual? After one line, the flavor text stops, then has the bold lettered details, then continues. wth! This is a serious editing mistake.
I missed that, it's just so typical
So the exact quote of Intelligent Blademasters is:
Benefit: You can use your Intelligence modifier instead of your Strength modifier when making a basic attack with a melee weapon.
Looks to be both hit and damage to me.
Elemental Foible
Level 5 daily. Arcane, Weapon
Int vs AC
1w + Int mod
Effect: The target gains vulnerable 5 to a damage type of your
choice: acid, cold, fire, lightning, or thunder. The vulnerability
lasts until the end of the encounter.
Impenetrable Warding
Level 10 utility. Daily, Arcane, Stance. Minor action
Your warding provides its bonus to all your defenses, not just AC.
(IE +3 to fort, refl, will)
Bane Blade
Level 19 daily. Arcane, Weapon
Int vs AC
Hit: 3W + Int mod
Effect: Choose a creature type that the target has (animate, beast,
humanoid, or magical beast). Until the end of the encounter, your
attacks against creatures of that type deal 2d6 extra damage.
The other Daily not listed in the preview is
Whirling Blade
Daily, Arcane, Weapon
Standard action, ranged 5
Requirement: you must thorw your melee weapon at the target.
Target: One creature
Attack: Intelligence vs AC
Hit: 2W + Int mod, and your weapon returns to your hand.
Miss: Repeat the attack against a second target within 5 squares of the first. If you miss, repeat the attack against a third target withint 5 squares of the second. If you miss again, repeat the attack against a fourth target within 5 squares of the third. Your weapon then returns to your hand.
The other 2 encounters are
Foesnare
Encounter, Arcane, Weapon
Standard action, Melee weapon
Target: One creature
Attack: Int vs AC
Hit: 1W + int mod, and the target is immobilized until the end of your next turn.
Special: You can use this power in place of a melee basic attack when charging.
Lightning Clash
Encounter, Arcane, Lightning, Weapon
Standard Action, Melee weapon
Primary Target: One creature
Attack: Int vs AC
Hit: 1W + int mod. Make a secondary attack
Secondary target: One creature within 5 squares of the primary target
Secondary attack: Int vs Refl
Hit: 1d6+int lightning damage
Bane Blade looks awesome. I was hoping artificers will get something similar.
That said, you still only get one interrupt per round still though.
angharradh's favor, berronar's salve, blessing of silvanus, chauntea's blessing, eyes of selune, fleetness of mielikki, glittergolds gambit, gond's craft, ilmater's martyrdom, kelemvor's judgement, oghma's recall, power of amaunator, rigtheous rage of tempus, sheela peryroyl's gift, sune's touch, torm's justice, Tymora's coin, waukeen's silver tongue.
So it looks like they only gave channel divinity feats for the good, LG, & unaligned greater gods, and gods. So exarchs don't give out channel divinity feats? (Kinda rhetorical, I don't expect any.)
Is there anything mentioned about clerics of Primordials?
I saw the Kelemvor feat and Ilmater's. Can someone give out the details on Berronar's feat, and Amaunator's? I'm looking for any good healing or undead smiting feats. Not that Kelemvor's isn't a nice undead killing feat, but I'm curious which deity has the bigger 'mad-on' about undead. The death god, or the sun god?
Is there a Channel Divinty feat similar to Melora's Tide from the PHB? I'm interested in any feats with the Healing Keyword.
So it looks like they only gave channel divinity feats for the good, LG, & unaligned greater gods, and gods. So exarchs don't give out channel divinity feats? (Kinda rhetorical, I don't expect any.)
Is there anything mentioned about clerics of Primordials?
I saw the Kelemvor feat and Ilmater's. Can someone give out the details on Berronar's feat, and Amaunator's? I'm looking for any good healing or undead smiting feats. Not that Kelemvor's isn't a nice undead killing feat, but I'm curious which deity has the bigger 'mad-on' about undead. The death god, or the sun god?
Is there a Channel Divinty feat similar to Melora's Tide from the PHB? I'm interested in any feats with the Healing Keyword.
According to Rich Baker, exarches and primordials can't grant spells nor do they have "clerics" nor do they have Channel Divinity feats. All of their followers would be characters of non-cleric classes such as wizards, warlocks, etc. Those followers could call themselves "clerics" but wouldn't get divine magic from those beings.
Nope no evil gods mentioned at all.....which is VERY disappointing. I really hope they put it up on DDI.
Power of Amaunator
Encounter - divine, radiant
Free action - personal
Trigger: you hit an enemy with a power with the radiant keyword
Effect: your power deals an extra 1d10 radiant damage to all targets hit by the power used.
It is a very NICE feat
I would type more but I am off to my 4e game!
According to Rich Baker, exarches and primordials can't grant spells nor do they have "clerics" nor do they have Channel Divinity feats.
Wasn't that some older answer? I thought it has changes since then, because the FRCG not only mentions that many exarchs are worshipped by their own churches but even gives the titles of some of their priests. It also give the titles of for the priests of the four elemental primordials
Wasn't that some older answer? I thought it has changes since then, because the FRCG not only mentions that many exarchs are worshipped by their own churches but even gives the titles of some of their priests. It also give the titles of for the priests of the four elemental primordials
Just 5 days ago Mr. Baker wrote
Regarding Kossuth, etc.: I think that "in-world" most Faerunians don't distinguish much between someone who worships a god and someone who worships a demon or primordial. The typical Faerunian is likely to look on the latter as someone who's evil, primitive, or just nuts... but he can't easily observe the difference between a "cleric" in game terms and a person who serves as in a priestly office without the powers of a cleric. He'd see that flameservant of Kossuth wielding magical powers derived from fire, without really understanding that Kossuth isn't a divine creature. Scholars and real clerics would know better, of course.
Taking a step back for a moment: Clerics do have to worship greater gods or gods. Exarchs aren't really divinities in and of themselves; they're more like "patron saints." So you wouldn't see a cleric of Clangeddin Silverbeard, you'd see a cleric of Moradin who likes to shout Clangeddin's name or ask himself "WWCD?" in tough spots. Our list of channel divinity feats is a pretty good indication of which deities have clerics, per se. Primordials, demons, or what-have-you don't have clerics; they have priests, cultists, servants, etc., who are generally NPCs with powers that derive from the creature they worship in a different way than clerics gain their powers.
Just a little teaser for some swordmage powers.
Elemental Foible
Level 5 daily. Arcane, Weapon
Int vs AC
1w + Int mod
Effect: The target gains vulnerable 5 to a damage type of your
choice: acid, cold, fire, lightning, or thunder. The vulnerability
lasts until the end of the encounter.
Impenetrable Warding
Level 10 utility. Daily, Arcane, Stance. Minor action
Your warding provides its bonus to all your defenses, not just AC.
(IE +3 to fort, refl, will)
Bane Blade
Level 19 daily. Arcane, Weapon
Int vs AC
Hit: 3W + Int mod
Effect: Choose a creature type that the target has (animate, beast,
humanoid, or magical beast). Until the end of the encounter, your
attacks against creatures of that type deal 2d6 extra damage.
Impenetrable warding! awesome! Care to post any other utilities? ;)
Impenetrable warding! awesome! Care to post any other utilities? ;)
Sure, one level of utilities is crazy good. I can't decide. You have
a utility that gives you see invisible, +5 perception, ignore penalties from concealment or total concealment. Or you can end up the ability and force an enemy to re-roll an attack with a penalty equal to your con
or
You can grow to large size, get +5 to str checks, +5 to melee damage, +2 to hit, and reach.
or
You can create an aura that moves with you that slows enemies that starts in it, prevents enemies from teleporting into the area, and any enemy inside it cant teleport out. Aura is sized 5.
Double Aegis lets you mark 2 targets in your burst. The epic level feat lets you mark everyone in your burst. If you are a wandering swordmage, that could be a huge amount of targets marked, since they add their wis mod to the size of the burst.
That said, you still only get one interrupt per round still though.
But, if I understand that correctly...Total Aegies + wandering swordmage's augmented warding burst = pretty much every enemy in the combat is stuck with a -2 to attacks against your teammates for the entire battle. That is pretty darn nice.
Sure, one level of utilities is crazy good. I can't decide. You have
a utility that gives you see invisible, +5 perception, ignore penalties from concealment or total concealment. Or you can end up the ability and force an enemy to re-roll an attack with a penalty equal to your con
or
You can grow to large size, get +5 to str checks, +5 to melee damage, +2 to hit, and reach.
or
You can create an aura that moves with you that slows enemies that starts in it, prevents enemies from teleporting into the area, and any enemy inside it cant teleport out. Aura is sized 5.
Gah! How can you choose between those? The third one is like the old dimensional anchor spell...great against BBEGs everywhere. The others are really nice too....eek!
Sure, one level of utilities is crazy good. I can't decide. You have
a utility that gives you see invisible, +5 perception, ignore penalties from concealment or total concealment. Or you can end up the ability and force an enemy to re-roll an attack with a penalty equal to your con
or
You can grow to large size, get +5 to str checks, +5 to melee damage, +2 to hit, and reach.
or
You can create an aura that moves with you that slows enemies that starts in it, prevents enemies from teleporting into the area, and any enemy inside it cant teleport out. Aura is sized 5.
Now that's what I call a kick-ass selection of utility powers.
All of these are pure gold, the first turns you into a sentient super-radar, the second turns you into the hulk and the third turns you into Mr.Sticky.
The second one has me thinking Enlarge Person. XD
Can we get a peek at the Elemental Tempest Paragon Path? I'm thinking I might go for it in an upcoming game.
http://ironshod.deviantart.com/art/Magister-96929729 maybe it was cut, thanks anyway.
Very nice picture, at any rate!
Anyone want to type up an entire list of powers for them?
Elemental Tempest. Requires a Genasi with the Extra Manifestation feat... At level 11 you gain three abilities-
The first says that you can manifest two manifestations at the same time, and can use both powers in the same encounter.
The second says that your Elemental Tempest powers deal a certain type of damage depending on the manifestation you presently have (which gets weird when you take the multiple manifestation ability into account) Force for earth, Fire for fire, Acid for water, Lightning for Storm, and Cold for wind.
The third one is the AP ability and basically say that you can gain the benefits of another manifestation (even if you don't know it) until the end of the encounter, or change your present ones.
Level 16 says that you increase any pre-existing Fire, Cold, and Lightning resistance by 5.
As for powers, well, I'm not too keen on the level 11 one, Tempest Burst. Its Str, Dex, or Con vs reflex, deals only 2d10 damage in close burst one, but doesn't posess the implement or weapon keyword, so even when you get it, its already losing steam.
Absorb Elements, their level 12 utility, is pretty cool. When your resistance prevents damage, you can deal damage equal to your total resistance before the end of the encounter.
Their level 20 power, Elemental Fury, needs some work. Its basically a longer-range, single-target power that deals 5d10 damage and increases all resistances by 10 until the end of the encounter. Again, however, no implement or weapon keyword, and it also (like Tempest Burst) lacks anything like "Str +2" or whatever. So by this point, its basically worthless.
Unless I'm missing something. Am I missing something!?
My review? Overall, its a good class, it just lacks any real direction, as well as any kind of accuracy with their abilities.
Very nice picture, at any rate!
Well with the online Dragon and Dungeon, I am shure they will find a place for it.
According to Rich Baker, exarches and primordials can't grant spells nor do they have "clerics" nor do they have Channel Divinity feats. All of their followers would be characters of non-cleric classes such as wizards, warlocks, etc. Those followers could call themselves "clerics" but wouldn't get divine magic from those beings.
Nope no evil gods mentioned at all.....which is VERY disappointing. I really hope they put it up on DDI.
Power of Amaunator
Encounter - divine, radiant
Free action - personal
Trigger: you hit an enemy with a power with the radiant keyword
Effect: your power deals an extra 1d10 radiant damage to all targets hit by the power used.
It is a very NICE feat
I would type more but I am off to my 4e game!
OK, so the sun god is not about destroying undead in particular.
Which deities also have healing keywords in their channel divinity feats?
I'm guessing that Berronar does, and I would like to see any other healing keyword feats.
Thanks!
OK, so the sun god is not about destroying undead in particular.
I think Amaunator is busy trying to stave off Shar's encroaching darkness. He is all about radiant damage now, taking a step away from his youthful aspect's naivety and optimism.
Which deities also have healing keywords in their channel divinity feats?
I'm guessing that Berronar does, and I would like to see any other healing keyword feats.
Thanks!
For yours and everyone else's viewing pleasure, I give you the channel divinity feats: (note: you must take the channel divinity feats of each god to use their granted power. I write this so I save myself from writing the special note on every single feat here. annoying!)
Angharradh's Favor
Encounter*Divine
No Action Ranged 10
Trigger: You or an ally within range succeeds on a saving throw
Target: One ally
Effect: The target gains a +4 power bonus to saving throws until the end of his or her next turn.
No Action Ranged 10
Trigger: You or an ally within range succeeds on a saving throw
Target: One ally
Effect: The target gains a +4 power bonus to saving throws until the end of his or her next turn.
Really should be +5 at best, it's a damn encounter power! And 1st level too!
Aaaaah! Oghma Recall! I hate you!
Really should be +5 at best, it's a damn encounter power! And 1st level too!
Hey it´s pretty useless for combat.....it´s terrible combined with Rituals though.
So it looks like they only gave channel divinity feats for the good, LG, & unaligned greater gods, and gods. So exarchs don't give out channel divinity feats? (Kinda rhetorical, I don't expect any.)
Is there anything mentioned about clerics of Primordials?
I saw the Kelemvor feat and Ilmater's. Can someone give out the details on Berronar's feat, and Amaunator's? I'm looking for any good healing or undead smiting feats. Not that Kelemvor's isn't a nice undead killing feat, but I'm curious which deity has the bigger 'mad-on' about undead. The death god, or the sun god?
Is there a Channel Divinty feat similar to Melora's Tide from the PHB? I'm interested in any feats with the Healing Keyword.
I suppose that one of the things that they are hinting at right now is they really don't want the players to be the Darkness in a Points of Light campaign. But I would imagine that at some point in time there will be an article (perhaps someone here haws some ideas :D ) giving some love to the evil deities.
I believe in the old old days there were level limits and spell level limits based on whether the god being worshiped was Greater or Lesser deity (granted my memory isn't as good as it used to be.) so perhaps an idea to consider placing some kind of power limits on those now worshiping Exarchs or on those still following dead or missing deities.
Having yet to receive the book (shipped today) I am wondering if the contents have lessened the anger of those upset over the Campaign Book?
I think Amaunator is busy trying to stave off Shar's encroaching darkness. He is all about radiant damage now, taking a step away from his youthful aspect's naivety and optimism.
For yours and everyone else's viewing pleasure, I give you the channel divinity feats: (note: you must take the channel divinity feats of each god to use their granted power. I write this so I save myself from writing the special note on every single feat here. annoying!)
Snipped feats
I hope I'm allowed to post these feats, since they're not spoiling anything and only just showing the mechanics/wording of feats. I read the CoC, and I did not see anything banning us from posting published feats. I did BUY the book, so ... yeah.
Thank you for this!
I suppose that one of the things that they are hinting at right now is they really don't want the players to be the Darkness in a Points of Light campaign. But I would imagine that at some point in time there will be an article (perhaps someone here haws some ideas :D ) giving some love to the evil deities.
In 4E, just like in 3E, WotC encourages PCs to be of good or neutral alignments (with neutral being "unaligned" in 4E) and to keep evil alignments reserved for the villains. This is more or less stated in the core rulebooks.
So it looks like they only gave channel divinity feats for the good, LG, & unaligned greater gods, and gods. So exarchs don't give out channel divinity feats?
Well, exarchs in 4E aren't deities the way demigods were in 3E.
Aaaaah! Oghma Recall! I hate you!
Really should be +5 at best, it's a damn encounter power! And 1st level too!
Heh.
I think that's important to remember...that these are all effectively usable all day long.Hey it´s pretty useless for combat.....it´s terrible combined with Rituals though.
Are you kidding? This is a superb translation of Oghma's flavor and the coolest non-attack feat up there! Not only can you kick butt in a skill challenge, but you can "remember" monster vulnerabilities and resistances in combat. That's exactly how an Oghmanyte should be contributing!
Ah, me! I'm just left a little empty with Eyes of Selune still. Compared to Chauntea's Blessing and Angharradh's Favor it seems underpowered, doesn't it? Why no +4 bonus? I'm hoping that 1) I'm underestimating the mechanical benefit of a personal reroll and 2) that it has some good flavor text.
:headexplo
In 4E, just like in 3E, WotC encourages PCs to be of good or neutral alignments
And 2e, and 1e. It has always been so, pretty much.
Shocking Flame-- a bit of extra damage with fire or stormsoul, Genasi only
As this is a Paragon Tier Feat AND Race-restricted, is it in any way better than unrestricted Heroic Tier Feats like Raging Storm and Astral Fire or stacks with them? Racial bonus instead of Feat bonus maybe?
Well, the book's(officially) out and now I can answer my own question XD
What this crown jewel of a feat does is adding 2(4 at level 21) fire(if you have the Firesoul manifestation) or lightning(if you have the Stormsoul manifestation) damage to all your melee attacks.
This is an untyped bonus and thus stacks with Raging Storm and Astral Fire.
If you are Epic Tier 21+ and have the Extra Manifestation and Double Manifestation feats as well(to have both Fire- and Stormsoul and manifest both at once), this is +4 fire and +4 lightning damage on every single melee attack you make.
Sure powns Weapon Focus(stacks with it too of course though, so you'll want it anyway) and is Genasi only.
And 2e, and 1e. It has always been so, pretty much.
I figured that, but didn't know for sure, so I didn't want to go back that far.
Hey [Oghma's Recall is] pretty useless for combat.....it´s terrible combined with Rituals though.
Most rituals take more than two rounds to cast, though. I guess you could argue that the roll happens in the last round of the ritual, but I personally feel the roll encompasses the entire casting of the ritual, and so I would disallow its use with rituals.
If a cleric worships an exarch who does not have a Divinity feat, can they take the Divinity feat of the exarch's patron?
Most rituals take more than two rounds to cast, though. I guess you could argue that the roll happens in the last round of the ritual, but I personally feel the roll encompasses the entire casting of the ritual, and so I would disallow its use with rituals.
Plus, Oghma's Recall only affects Knowledge checks for those skills, not any other uses of the skills.
Does the warlock dark pact has anything to do with undead? Or is there anything about shadow- sourced powers in there?
Thanks in advance...
This one sounds way better than the Campaign Guide. I didn't pre-order it, wanted to check it out before I buy it so I don't get upset again...
Does the warlock dark pact has anything to do with undead? Or is there anything about shadow- sourced powers in there?
Thanks in advance...
Yup. I'm glad I got this one instead of the FRCG.
Anyways, the Dark Pact comes from a fell source, not shadow or undeath. It is darkness, poisonous, and spiteful. It's power is not without sacrifice.:angelhide
Anyways, the Dark Pact comes from a fell source, not shadow or undeath. It is darkness, poisonous, and spiteful. It's power is not without sacrifice.:angelhide
Wow- sounds like the opposite of the starlock...Gotta check this out :D
As far as I understand there is a multi-class option for spellscarred.
But as you're allowed to only multi-class once, does this mean that my warlock-wizard character is 'immune' to spellscars because he can't multi-class for a second time?
Or are there options of 'singel' feats that offer spellscar-effects on their own without the Spellscar-class?
Lirdolin
I got the book but scoured it looking for an answer about something. Anyone know what the implement for the Spellscarred multiclass powers are? Is it the implement used by the base class (if applicable)?
It's whatever implement your base class uses. So a Warlock could use a pact blade or a rod as an implement, a Swordmage can use a sword as their implement. A Rogue on the other hand gets no implement bonuses (so you want to avoid the implement abilities in that case).
does this mean that my warlock-wizard character is 'immune' to spellscars because he can't multi-class for a second time?
From my understanding if your DM wants to give you a spellscar for story purposes then they can give you the Spellscarred Susceptibility and Spellplague Sense "class" features. However from my understanding to gain access to the "Spellscarred" powers you need to multiclass into it by getting the Student of the Plague feat because it says by gaining it "You qualify for the [multiclass feats from the PHB by] treating spellscarred as the class into which you have multiclassed." There seems to be no other way to gain Spellscarred powers except through multiclassing.
However from my understanding to gain access to the "Spellscarred" powers you need to multiclass into it by getting the Student of the Plague feat because it says by gaining it "You qualify for the [multiclass feats from the PHB by] treating spellscarred as the class into which you have multiclassed."
So I have to take 'Student of the Plague' and qualify for another multiclass that I actually take, adding Spellplague? So in effect I become a Warlock/Spellplagued Wizard? Or does the 'Spellplagued' class replace the Core-class completly?
So I have to take 'Student of the Plague' and qualify for another multiclass that I actually take, adding Spellplague? So in effect I become a Warlock/Spellplagued Wizard? Or does the 'Spellplagued' class replace the Core-class completly?
No to both?
From my understanding it acts like a new separate class. However unlike normal classes, you can't select it as your base class. As such you can only access it by multiclassing. Just as you can't have a Warlock/Wizard/Rogue, you can't have a Warlock/Spellplagued/Wizard.
That's my understanding anyway.
I think they should have made these Spellscars feats so they are open to (be burdend on) every character. Nevermind.
Lirdolin
I found another hiccup in the FRPG. In the Rituals chapter, Simbul's Conversion is listed as both Arcana and Heal. But in the ritual's entry, it doesn't have Heal. Now is this a typo, or can divine spellcasters use it too for their divine dailies?
:headexplo
Some how I doubt it, but there might be a instance where a Arcane caster has a heal check thats good... and.. I'll stop here because I don't see it happening... unless its a Cleric multiclass Wizard.
Thanks.
I think they should have made these Spellscars feats so they are open to (be burdend on) every character. Nevermind.
Lirdolin
The actual Spellscarred multi-class is specifically for people who have begun to learn how to control their Spellscar. It takes time and effort to learn this. Think of it like this. If you are a Warlock who multi-classes into Wizard and you have a spellscar, well you spent your time and effort on learning how to be a Wizard instead of exploiting your spellscar. It's a choice much like any multiclass is.
Now that isn't to say you cannot have a spellscar. The way I personally interpret it if I was the DM would be that anybody who's spellscarred gains Spellscarred Susceptibility and Spellplague Sense. If you take the Multi-class then you gain Sight of the Unseen, Flamespeed or Larger than Life as it would show you starting to gain control of your scar.
There is another bonus to having a spellscar even if you aren't going into the multi-class and you can find that bit in the Campaign Guide on page 54. If you already have a spellscar and enter a Plagueland you do not suffer from the the afflictions that happen to normal beings who are in Plaguelands. So you wouldn't take the -1 penalty to Fortitude and loss of 1 healing surge each time you take an extended rest in a Plagueland like the non-spellscarred members of your party (Gotta love the fact that the -1 fort and -1 healing surge loss stacks with each extended rest and you die if your fort reaches 0).
Moon Elf Resilience [Eladrin]
Prerequisite: Eladrin
Benefit: XXXXXX
Special: You cannot select this feat if you have the Sun Elf Grace feat.
Sun Elf Grace [Eladrin]
Prerequisite: Eladrin
Benefit: XXXXXX
Special: You cannot select this feat if you have the Moon Elf Resilience feat.
Wild Elf Luck [Elf]
Prerequisite: Elf
Benefit: XXXXXX
Special: You cannot select this feat if you have the Wood Elf Agility feat.
Wood Elf Agility [Elf]
Prerequisite: Elf
Benefit: XXXXXX
Special: You cannot select this feat if you have the Wild Elf Luck feat.
So an Eladrin who takes Moon Elf Resilience can't take Sun Elf Grace and vice versa, and an Elf who takes Wilf Elf Luck can't take Wood Elf Agility and vice versa.
So an Eladrin who takes Moon Elf Resilience can't take Sun Elf Grace and vice versa, and an Elf who takes Wilf Elf Luck can't take Wood Elf Agility and vice versa.
It's worth noting that "Gold Dwarf Pride" and "Shield Dwarf Fallen" seem to lack this restriction, although I believe it's an oversight that will be fixed in errata.
The Feat's called "Shield the Fallen", not "Shield Dwarf Fallen". Maybe it was intended as a Shield Dwarf Feat, but who knows.
Wow I guess I was so sure there would be a background for shield dwarves that I saw words that weren't there.