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Item slot rules?

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#1
usgrandprix
Oct 15, 2010 7:07:12 On the Omega Tech cards it mentions the item slot for the tech. You can also salvage it into an "X slot item."

Is this covered somewhere in the rules? I must be missing it but I thought I looked closely.

The only rule I found was that you can have as many Omega tech cards readied as you like. If that's the case, why do the cards mention slots, which seems to imply there is a limitation?

I guess I'll just rule you can only have one item per slot, but any help understanding this would be helpful. Thanks.
#2
FlashbackJon
Oct 15, 2010 9:03:40 I think they're banking on "common sense" ruling. One card states that its effect can be ended "by removing the boots" but there aren't any specific rules about wearing omega tech items. Logic dictates that I can only wear a pair of boots, but how many pairs can a rat swarm occupy? Can I wear a helmet and goggles? Two helmets?

I guess what I'm saying is I have no answer other than DM caveat.
#3
ah_plagued
Oct 15, 2010 9:15:22 And indeed, who's to say your character doesn't have multiple sets of feet (Cockroach?) or a even something resembling a 'head' upon which a helmet or visor could be placed?

The slots are probably intended to help visualize how the item is used or worn, or are just a carry over from 4e.

#4
doctorcomics
Oct 15, 2010 11:10:18 I have to presume that "Item Slot" rules essentially identical to the rest of 4E were intended to be included but were cut for reasons of space.
#5
usgrandprix
Oct 15, 2010 11:56:35 Thanks. So I'm not missing the rules somewhere. Was feeling a bit crazy. I've not read 4e but I'll check it out from the library.
#6
christianjohnson
Oct 15, 2010 12:20:39 My sense is that the "specific beats general" rule is in effect here. Gamma World works with the Rules Compendium for 4e. Where Gamma World differs, use Gamma World. Where Gamma World lacks a rule, use the Compendium. Otherwise, there's no Grabbing in Gamma World.
#7
BRJN
Oct 15, 2010 21:56:50 Note to WotC: there is nothing wrong with including text to the effect of "This product can be enhanced by use of the Players Handbook, Dungeon Masters' Guide and Monster Manual serieses of books for Fourth Edition." Exact wording probably found in the Forgotten Realms, Ebberon, and Dark Sun campaign settings.
#8
Oraibi
Oct 15, 2010 22:33:47
Note to WotC: there is nothing wrong with including text to the effect of "This product can be enhanced by use of the Players Handbook, Dungeon Masters' Guide and Monster Manual serieses of books for Fourth Edition." Exact wording probably found in the Forgotten Realms, Ebberon, and Dark Sun campaign settings.

I dunno, on the back of the Dark Sun Campaign Setting book, it says:
For use with these 4th Edition Dungeons & Dragons products:
Dark Sun Creature Catalog
Player's Handbook core rulebooks
Dungeon Master's Guide core rulebooks
Monster Manual core rulebooks
D&D Miniatures D&D Dungeon Tiles

Inside the DSCS, it tells the DM that "To run a Dungeons & Dragons game in the world of Dark Sun, you'll need the Player's Handbook, Dungeon Master's Guide, and Monster Manual."

It's not an appropriate wording to steal, really. They want you to buy this boxed set of Gamma World because it has everything you need to play a game of Gamma World. You can't play a complete D&D game with any of the campaign setting books.

ETA:

Also, anyone who could get benefit from the 4e D&D books probably already has them, so the notice is not useful there. And it would scare off potential new players, which is the opposite of what the game is intended to do.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 usgrandprix Oct 15, 2010 7:07:12	On the Omega Tech cards it mentions the item slot for the tech. You can also salvage it into an "X slot item." Is this covered somewhere in the rules? I must be missing it but I thought I looked closely. The only rule I found was that you can have as many Omega tech cards readied as you like. If that's the case, why do the cards mention slots, which seems to imply there is a limitation? I guess I'll just rule you can only have one item per slot, but any help understanding this would be helpful. Thanks.
#2 FlashbackJon Oct 15, 2010 9:03:40	I think they're banking on "common sense" ruling. One card states that its effect can be ended "by removing the boots" but there aren't any specific rules about wearing omega tech items. Logic dictates that I can only wear a pair of boots, but how many pairs can a rat swarm occupy? Can I wear a helmet and goggles? Two helmets? I guess what I'm saying is I have no answer other than DM caveat.
#3 ah_plagued Oct 15, 2010 9:15:22	And indeed, who's to say your character doesn't have multiple sets of feet (Cockroach?) or a even something resembling a 'head' upon which a helmet or visor could be placed? The slots are probably intended to help visualize how the item is used or worn, or are just a carry over from 4e.
#4 doctorcomics Oct 15, 2010 11:10:18	I have to presume that "Item Slot" rules essentially identical to the rest of 4E were intended to be included but were cut for reasons of space.
#5 usgrandprix Oct 15, 2010 11:56:35	Thanks. So I'm not missing the rules somewhere. Was feeling a bit crazy. I've not read 4e but I'll check it out from the library.
#6 christianjohnson Oct 15, 2010 12:20:39	My sense is that the "specific beats general" rule is in effect here. Gamma World works with the Rules Compendium for 4e. Where Gamma World differs, use Gamma World. Where Gamma World lacks a rule, use the Compendium. Otherwise, there's no Grabbing in Gamma World.
#7 BRJN Oct 15, 2010 21:56:50	Note to WotC: there is nothing wrong with including text to the effect of "This product can be enhanced by use of the Players Handbook, Dungeon Masters' Guide and Monster Manual serieses of books for Fourth Edition." Exact wording probably found in the Forgotten Realms, Ebberon, and Dark Sun campaign settings.
#8 Oraibi Oct 15, 2010 22:33:47	Note to WotC: there is nothing wrong with including text to the effect of "This product can be enhanced by use of the Players Handbook, Dungeon Masters' Guide and Monster Manual serieses of books for Fourth Edition." Exact wording probably found in the Forgotten Realms, Ebberon, and Dark Sun campaign settings. I dunno, on the back of the Dark Sun Campaign Setting book, it says: For use with these 4th Edition Dungeons & Dragons products: Dark Sun Creature Catalog Player's Handbook core rulebooks Dungeon Master's Guide core rulebooks Monster Manual core rulebooks D&D Miniatures D&D Dungeon Tiles Inside the DSCS, it tells the DM that "To run a Dungeons & Dragons game in the world of Dark Sun, you'll need the Player's Handbook, Dungeon Master's Guide, and Monster Manual." It's not an appropriate wording to steal, really. They want you to buy this boxed set of Gamma World because it has everything you need to play a game of Gamma World. You can't play a complete D&D game with any of the campaign setting books. ETA: Also, anyone who could get benefit from the 4e D&D books probably already has them, so the notice is not useful there. And it would scare off potential new players, which is the opposite of what the game is intended to do.