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FR deities-->Greyhawk deities?

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#1
skeksi
Sep 16, 2008 18:32:48 With the FRPG we could use the divinity feats included and port them into Greyhawk, anyone has a list of FR deity analogues in Greyhawk setting?
#2
Artifact
Sep 16, 2008 21:02:58 Check out page 9 of the Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting for 3rd edition. There's a sidebar which should help: Converting Core D&D Characters to Forgotten Realms Characters.

For instance, Vecna is equivalent to Shar, Kord to Tempus (or Lathander or Uthgar), while Ehlonna could be Mielikki by any other name.

These guidelines should work just as easily in 4e as they did in 3e.
#3
pauln6
Sep 17, 2008 7:22:15 Groovy... except I don't want to buy the campaign guide! I will get the players guide for the drow and swordmage stuff, and possibly a few useful feats and rituals. I just can't see enough in the campaign guide to tempt me to buy it... Damn WotC and their cunning cross-pollenation plan to exploit us .
#4
rob_douglas
Sep 17, 2008 11:10:31 He meant the 3E guide, but even so, it is tough to plop down money for that too. Same for the 4e guide. It is useful in explaining how to relate similar terms - like how the elves and eladrin should split in greyhawk, and how the planes can work with it, and the gods.

There is definitely useful stuff for the gods we can delve into FR for. I do plan to get the FRPG for that, and use the divinity feats. So we should just start compiling a list here of deity conversions. For me:

Elven, Dwarven, etc gods go across worlds, so that is good.
Torm = Heironeous
Amaunator = Pelor?
Bane = Hextor
Chauntea = Beory
Cyric = Syrul?
Tempus = Kord, or Kelanen
Silvanus = Obad-Hai?

Also, there was some movement in the ranks of the gods. I need to check on those, but it looks like Greater and Intermediate are mostly Greater now, and some Intermediate and some Lesser are now just plain old gods, and some Lesser and Demi became Exarchs. So we may need to revamp that level - depending on what it really means. I think that essentially Greater gods make a realm, gods live in the realm too, and exarchs specifically serve a greater god.

Any more thoughts?

ROB
#5
Artifact
Sep 17, 2008 14:37:24 Here's the complete FR to GH (core) conversion (from the 3e book) for anyone who might be interested:

Boccob/Mystra (she's not found in 4e though), Corellon (unchanged), Ehlonna/Mielikki, Erythnul/Cyric, Fharlanghun/Selune, Glittergold (unchanged), Gruumsh (unchanged), Heironeous/Torm, Hextor/Bane, Kord/Tempus, Moradin (unchanged), Nerull/Cyric, Obad-Hai/Silvanus, Olidammara/Oghma/Sune, Pelor/Torm, St. Cuthbert/Helm/Tyr (not seen in 4e), Vecna/Shar, Wee Jas/Kelemvor, Yondalla (unchanged)

Some of the FR gods are not found in 4e (as noted) but I've listed the equivalent GH god anyway.

Hope this is helpful ;).
#6
rob_douglas
Sep 18, 2008 9:39:40 Very helpful! Thanks!

ROB

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 skeksi Sep 16, 2008 18:32:48	With the FRPG we could use the divinity feats included and port them into Greyhawk, anyone has a list of FR deity analogues in Greyhawk setting?
#2 Artifact Sep 16, 2008 21:02:58	Check out page 9 of the Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting for 3rd edition. There's a sidebar which should help: Converting Core D&D Characters to Forgotten Realms Characters. For instance, Vecna is equivalent to Shar, Kord to Tempus (or Lathander or Uthgar), while Ehlonna could be Mielikki by any other name. These guidelines should work just as easily in 4e as they did in 3e.
#3 pauln6 Sep 17, 2008 7:22:15	Groovy... except I don't want to buy the campaign guide! I will get the players guide for the drow and swordmage stuff, and possibly a few useful feats and rituals. I just can't see enough in the campaign guide to tempt me to buy it... Damn WotC and their cunning cross-pollenation plan to exploit us .
#4 rob_douglas Sep 17, 2008 11:10:31	He meant the 3E guide, but even so, it is tough to plop down money for that too. Same for the 4e guide. It is useful in explaining how to relate similar terms - like how the elves and eladrin should split in greyhawk, and how the planes can work with it, and the gods. There is definitely useful stuff for the gods we can delve into FR for. I do plan to get the FRPG for that, and use the divinity feats. So we should just start compiling a list here of deity conversions. For me: Elven, Dwarven, etc gods go across worlds, so that is good. Torm = Heironeous Amaunator = Pelor? Bane = Hextor Chauntea = Beory Cyric = Syrul? Tempus = Kord, or Kelanen Silvanus = Obad-Hai? Also, there was some movement in the ranks of the gods. I need to check on those, but it looks like Greater and Intermediate are mostly Greater now, and some Intermediate and some Lesser are now just plain old gods, and some Lesser and Demi became Exarchs. So we may need to revamp that level - depending on what it really means. I think that essentially Greater gods make a realm, gods live in the realm too, and exarchs specifically serve a greater god. Any more thoughts? ROB
#5 Artifact Sep 17, 2008 14:37:24	Here's the complete FR to GH (core) conversion (from the 3e book) for anyone who might be interested: Boccob/Mystra (she's not found in 4e though), Corellon (unchanged), Ehlonna/Mielikki, Erythnul/Cyric, Fharlanghun/Selune, Glittergold (unchanged), Gruumsh (unchanged), Heironeous/Torm, Hextor/Bane, Kord/Tempus, Moradin (unchanged), Nerull/Cyric, Obad-Hai/Silvanus, Olidammara/Oghma/Sune, Pelor/Torm, St. Cuthbert/Helm/Tyr (not seen in 4e), Vecna/Shar, Wee Jas/Kelemvor, Yondalla (unchanged) Some of the FR gods are not found in 4e (as noted) but I've listed the equivalent GH god anyway. Hope this is helpful ;).
#6 rob_douglas Sep 18, 2008 9:39:40	Very helpful! Thanks! ROB