Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 havard Jan 23, 2006 8:59:51	Originally Posted by Dave L: Greyhawk - only 6387 to go! I suppose that calls for a new thread. Regards Gary
#2 gazza555 Jan 23, 2006 9:24:30	Alright, it seems like creating these threads has become my job That's right ;) Its funny, when I started the Catch up with Ravenloft thread I thought that was a nearly impossible task. Now we've beaten not only RL, but OOP and Planescape as well. And we're close to 2,000 posts more than RL. Makes me think we could even take out the Athas crowd. What do you think? And then FR and Eberron ;) Regards Gary
#3 dave_l Jan 23, 2006 9:41:05	So long as they don't delete our Catch Up threads - that would set us back a bit! ;) Edit: Ravenloft thread 415 posts, Planescape thread 127 posts Although I think the Greyhawk thread will be "current" for a lot longer than those two were.
#4 maddog Jan 23, 2006 10:19:03	I'm a fan of both settings!!!!!!! --Ray.
#5 gazza555 Jan 23, 2006 10:23:15	I'm a fan of both settings!!!!!!! --Ray. Just as long as you post as many, if not more, here than you do on the GH board. Regards Gary
#6 mrfilthyike Jan 23, 2006 10:25:47	I'll post here, but Eberron is my second favorite after the Known World. ;) But I'll help dethrone GH. :D
#7 maddog Jan 23, 2006 11:52:58	Just as long as you post as many, if not more, here than you do on the GH board. Luckily, I only post here on the Mystara board. --Ray.
#8 havard Jan 26, 2006 11:25:53	I'm a fan of both settings!!!!!!! --Ray. I don't think this thread implies that you cannot like any of the other settings. I love this competition that we have created between the boards, but I like many of the other OOP settings as well as a few that are actually in print (such as Eberron). Still, I always cheer for the underdog, and once Mystara has beaten Dragonlance, I will post more on the other OOP boards... :D Håvard
#9 thorf Jan 27, 2006 0:13:17	I don't think this thread implies that you cannot like any of the other settings. I love this competition that we have created between the boards... Yes, I agree. These threads aren't really supposed to be negative about other campaign worlds, just positive about Mystara. I love the way these threads give us a place to have general conversation, without taking other threads off-topic. Too much of that can be a bad thing, but just a little allows us to form a much closer community, I think. Most of all, it's so nice to have something to work for - to have the motivation to post more, and to contribute more. I did a similar thing with myself in the first lot of postings of my maps, by making the commitment to post one every day. With Mystara as open, and in some ways static, as it is, motivation is something we all really need, I think. Which reminds me: CONGRATULATIONS! to everyone for passing Planescape!! :evillaugh
#10 gazza555 Jan 27, 2006 8:06:59	I did a similar thing with myself in the first lot of postings of my maps... So will there a second lot ;) or is RL too busy? Update time... Greyhawk: 6324 (-63) Regards Gary
#11 gazza555 Feb 06, 2006 3:32:02	Oops! Forgot all about it, but here it is a little late.
#12 dave_l Feb 06, 2006 6:15:30	Looking at those figures, if the Dark Sun forum has already been pruned, they'll overtake Dragonlance very soon. Now that would be a real upset, if you ask me.
#13 havard Feb 06, 2006 8:29:10	Looking at those figures, if the Dark Sun forum has already been pruned, they'll overtake Dragonlance very soon. Now that would be a real upset, if you ask me. Indeed! If the pruning is going to be as unequal as it seems, this will certainly turn things around here. Most likely though, the DS forum has not been pruned yet. (or they have been writing like rabbits! Rabbits? Well, something that writes fast.. :P ) Håvard
#14 Cthulhudrew Feb 06, 2006 11:51:29	All I know is that those Dark Sun guys are pretty dang active and/or fanatical about their campaign setting. Good for them, but it means that it is highly unlikely we'll ever be seeing a "Think We'll Catch Up With Dark Sun?" thread. I'd have sworn they must have been having a "Catch up with Dragonlance" thread of their own, but I haven't seen anything over there.
#15 zombiegleemax Feb 08, 2006 8:46:56	Makes me think we could even take out the Athas crowd. What do you think? No. ;)
#16 mrfilthyike Feb 08, 2006 8:52:46	All I know is that those Dark Sun guys are pretty dang active and/or fanatical about their campaign setting. Good for them, but it means that it is highly unlikely we'll ever be seeing a "Think We'll Catch Up With Dark Sun?" thread. I'd have sworn they must have been having a "Catch up with Dragonlance" thread of their own, but I haven't seen anything over there. Yeah, Dark Sun fans are fanatical (like Mystarans ;) )...I'm guilty as I love DS, I just don't like care for the conversion going on there...If I wanna play 3e DS I'll do my own converting.
#17 havard Feb 08, 2006 13:33:45	No. ;) Hehe, catching up with Athas does seem like a long way to go yet, but we'll see. Thanks for helping out! I was always intrigued by DS myself, but never got a chance to play it. I bought the Dragon and Dungeon issues with the 3E conversions, but later heard the hard core DS'ers didnt care for them. Maybe its not that bad that Mystara wasn't given that treatment? We'll see what Bruce is providing for us in issue #341.... :D Håvard
#18 zombiegleemax Feb 08, 2006 16:34:32	Hehe, catching up with Athas does seem like a long way to go yet, but we'll see. Thanks for helping out! I was always intrigued by DS myself, but never got a chance to play it. I bought the Dragon and Dungeon issues with the 3E conversions, but later heard the hard core DS'ers didnt care for them. Maybe its not that bad that Mystara wasn't given that treatment? We'll see what Bruce is providing for us in issue #341.... :D Håvard DS was a great setting and then they put out a Meta Plot that radicly changed the setting. Some people like me, like the change, others hate the change. The 3.0/3.5 treatment Dragon/Dungeon gave it pushed it 300 yrs in the future and made it like the origenal box set. The OTHER offical converstion keeps the current timeline and develops it with existing materal. (www.athas.org) /// Rules wise the athas.org version is ballenced, the other is not IMHO - What do you nort like about there convesion -
#19 havard Feb 09, 2006 9:42:49	DS was a great setting and then they put out a Meta Plot that radicly changed the setting. Some people like me, like the change, others hate the change. I wasnt aware of that happening with DS. I guess TSR did that to most of its settings. We had the Wrath of the Immortals, FR had the Time of Troubles and Greyhawk and From the Ashes. It sounds like, in all of the settings TSR managed to split the fanbases between those who liked the old stuff and those who preferred the new world order. Way to go TSR... Oh well :D Håvard
#20 dave_l Feb 09, 2006 10:43:14	I wasnt aware of that happening with DS. I guess TSR did that to most of its settings. We had the Wrath of the Immortals, FR had the Time of Troubles and Greyhawk and From the Ashes. It sounds like, in all of the settings TSR managed to split the fanbases between those who liked the old stuff and those who preferred the new world order. Way to go TSR... Oh well :D Håvard Having bought WotI on ebay, I have to say - old stuff! Although much of it was interesting, I couldn't help thinking "What are they doing to my Mystara with all these changes?" As you said - Way to go, TSR. How to split your fan base in one easy lesson.
#21 Cthulhudrew Feb 09, 2006 11:04:23	I wasnt aware of that happening with DS. From what I recall (unless P33KAJ3W was referring to some other metaplot), the Dark Sun MP came in the course of their novels, which were supposed to complement/showcase the new line, but which ended up with most of the Sorcerer-Kings dying, some Templar becoming a living raincloud, the Dragon dead, and some weird history where the halflings obliterated the planet, leaving it in its current state. Odd stuff. Frankly, I liked the concept of Dark Sun initially, but the novels just put me off completely. They were not very well written, the characters were only memorable for how obnoxious they were (the one good character was killed off in the course of "his" novel), and again, some weird stuff. The part where the giants were cutting off their own heads and replacing them with animal heads stands out in my mind as one of the stranger bits. So, yeah, they set up the setting- which, IIRC, was developed at the same time as their novel line, so they already knew the direction they were going in- and then changed the setting over the course of the release of the novel line. A very strange way of going about things. I did rather like the Simon Hawke books about the Multiple Personality Psionic character, though (which are the only Simon Hawke books I like; I started reading a Shakespeare mystery by him which was just horrendous). I think the concept of a desert world was a bit too stale, from a geographic perspective, to sustain an ongoing campaign. Then again, the "known world" of Athas was a relatively small part of the planet, so expanding it to include some large bodies of water and different ecological settings wouldn't be too hard, and needn't necessarily detract from the bleakness of the setting (if done correctly).
#22 Mortepierre Feb 10, 2006 6:11:10	In any case, we need to deal with the Hawkers first.... :D Not a chance :fight!:
#23 gazza555 Feb 10, 2006 6:40:16	Not a chance :fight!: Oh yes we will, thanks for the help. ;) Update time. Greyhawk: 6230 (-36) Regards Gary
#24 Cthulhudrew Feb 10, 2006 10:07:46	Oh yes we will, thanks for the help. ;) Owned!
#25 havard Feb 13, 2006 8:20:39	Not a chance :fight!: Hehe! Even better! Beating Greyhawk will be a fight. But that will only make it feel better when we've won Håvard
#26 gazza555 Feb 16, 2006 6:39:34	Update time... Greyhawk: 6193 (-37) Also noticed that we're creeping up on 12,000 posts - less than 50 to go. Regards Gary
#27 gazza555 Feb 17, 2006 2:53:35	12,000+ posts. And now for a quick update... Greyhawk: 6150 (-43) Regards Gary
#28 spellweaver Feb 17, 2006 3:06:41	12,000+ posts. And now for a quick update... Greyhawk: 6150 (-43) Regards Gary Yeah! :-) Jesper
#29 Hugin Feb 19, 2006 21:45:10	Once again I was away for a milestone. Just got back from a weekend trip up to Ottawa. Lots of fun and lots of COLD!!!! Anyway, I have to finish all the reading you guys have created. Boy there's alot! 12,000 Posts! I thought it was great when we 1200. Have we grown or what?!
#30 havard Feb 20, 2006 6:42:15	12,000 Posts! I thought it was great when we 1200. Have we grown or what?! Yeah its crazy isnt it? The sad part of this story is that the traffic over at the MML has all but stopped. OTOH, our discussions here are more visible. Håvard
#31 gazza555 Feb 28, 2006 7:39:19	Its been awhile so... Update time Greyhawk: 5960 (-190) By the way, has anyone else noticed that the 'Other Worlds' link is missing from the main DnD boards page? It makes it that more difficult for the general gamer to stumble across the joys of the old settings,(well Mystara ;) . Regards Gary
#32 gazza555 Mar 07, 2006 7:13:58	Might as well update the current thread as well. Greyhawk: 5902 (-58) Regards Gary
#33 gazza555 Mar 07, 2006 8:15:35	AAaarrgghh!!!! Yet again I forgot all about it, but here it is a little late.
#34 dave_l Mar 08, 2006 7:00:34	I'm assuming that should read 6th Feb and 6th March?
#35 gazza555 Mar 08, 2006 7:25:13	I'm assuming that should read 6th Feb and 6th March? Close. It should have been the 7th March, and I should have removed the comment about the OOP board, darn that copy n paste. :embarrass Changed Regards Gary
#36 Cthulhudrew Mar 23, 2006 12:50:10	Just thought I'd update this thread: Greyhawk: 5,964 (+64) Yikes!! They're gaining on us! We're losing our momentum!!!
#37 thorf Mar 23, 2006 14:33:42	Things have been rather slow lately, indeed... But now that Marco is posting again, and OldDawg is keeping us busy with his projects, hopefully we can regain our lost ground.
#38 jakob_pawlowicz Mar 23, 2006 16:17:46	Loosing Momentum.....? The count is only measuring quantity. I feel that the average post on this board should be counted, at least, twice in this measure, due to the high quality of these. Anyway my ramblings has increased the lead we have....... :D
#39 Hugin Mar 23, 2006 18:29:53	I HAVE to find time to contribute again (other than just encouraging other people for their contributions). I feel a little guilty for slowing down so much, but I still read everything posted here (and on the MML). I guess I shouldn't feel too guilty though, after all, I have posted over 1000 times ;) . The quality of the work posted here is incredible. Well done everybody!
#40 spellweaver Mar 24, 2006 3:06:22	I guess I shouldn't feel too guilty though, after all, I have posted over 1000 times ;) . Damn! I am only at 859 posts (counting this one). I'll have to get back in the saddle again. These past six months have really set back my average posts/day... Problem is, now that I am working instead of writing my thesis I find I have even less time to contribute :-) Jesper
#41 zombiegleemax Mar 24, 2006 3:40:49	Ah! Jesper you've discovered the hard truth: for all the money you earn working, you loose all the freetime you had while studying ;)
#42 Traianus_Decius_Aureus Mar 24, 2006 8:05:57	Work- the great time sink. Definitely cuts into time for everything. My theory for us losing ground is that they have created a "Think we'll continue to stay ahead of Mystara?" thread.
#43 gazza555 Mar 29, 2006 7:14:35	I guess I shouldn't feel too guilty though, after all, I have posted over 1000 times ;) And to think I was quietly pleased when I passed the 500 post mark. Regards Gary
#44 zombiegleemax Mar 29, 2006 11:21:39	How do you know how many post you done?
#45 thorf Mar 29, 2006 12:18:59	How do you know how many post you done? Click on your name at the top of a post, and click on "View Public Profile".
#46 Hugin Mar 29, 2006 13:48:16	Ah! Jesper you've discovered the hard truth: for all the money you earn working, you loose all the freetime you had while studying ;) That's my problem: working and studying! So many things I want to do I get these cool ideas (to me anyhow) in my head that I'd love to flesh out and have the community work on together. One of them was a fleshing out of Mystara's religious organizations, in a similar way the Church of Traladara and Church of Karameikos are done in Gaz 1, and the role/influence of each 'member' Immortal and their followers. Time management! Time to get strict with it. (Btw, I hope I didn't sound as if I was bragging about my posts . I'd bet there are others here that top me, and with more quality contributions.)
#47 spellweaver Mar 29, 2006 14:16:14	(Btw, I hope I didn't sound as if I was bragging about my posts . I'd bet there are others here that top me, and with more quality contributions.) Thinking about starting the "Think I'll ever catch up with Hugin?"-thread... :evillaugh Jesper
#48 Hugin Mar 29, 2006 15:25:09	:heehee Good one!
#49 zombiegleemax Mar 29, 2006 17:08:10	And here's me with only a coupole of dozen.
#50 gazza555 Apr 03, 2006 8:10:28	Greyhawk: 5,856 (-108) Looks like things have picked up again. Regards Gary
#51 gazza555 Apr 03, 2006 10:20:21	At least I remembered this month.
#52 havard Apr 03, 2006 10:33:08	It looks like Dark Sun will catch Dragonlance within a month or so. We are really up against giants arent we? Thanks for keeping us updated as usual Gary Håvard
#53 thorf Apr 03, 2006 10:51:07	We are really up against giants arent we? Yes indeed... Although it's nice to see that if we continue at the present rate we should be able to catch up with Dragonlance in a few years! ;) Thanks for keeping us updated as usual Gary Let me jump on the bandwagon of thanks. (Psst, Gary shouldn't the table say 3rd April?)
#54 Hugin Apr 03, 2006 10:52:16	At least I remembered this month.
#55 gazza555 Apr 03, 2006 10:53:10	(Psst, Gary shouldn't the table say 3rd April?) er... it does... it's just your monitor. ;) ...and something went wrong with Hugin's quote. :embarrass Regards Gary
#56 gazza555 Apr 03, 2006 10:56:16	That darn cut & paste got you again, eh Gary?! :D Yeah, I changed it on a piece of paper and forgot the real thing. :embarrass Still it's generated a few more posts. Regards Gary
#57 Hugin Apr 03, 2006 11:57:53	WOW. I know that Mondays are traditionally a boom day for posts here, but you guys have made me use up most of my time allocated to working on tonight's session! :D ...it's just your monitor. You're right! I gave it a smack and it's displaying things the way they're supposed to be now! ;) OK, I really have to work on tonight's game (the guys are really excited - first time in the Hollow World!). It's part of WotI, but instead of going via Aegos, they arrived using Atruaghin's Mystic Conveyor (one of the characters is from the Bear clan and worked much better into my game). They've met the Atruatolco and heard of "great wooden Hiaks (giant eagles)" carrying men. The PCs are about to reallize that these are Heldannic Warbirds since two of them are from Vestland. This will (hopefully) lead them to Haldemar and Alphatian Neatharum, etc.
#58 gazza555 Apr 04, 2006 3:16:29	I gave it a smack and it's displaying things the way they're supposed to be now! ;) Ah! Tech support at its best. ;) Anyway the reson for the post is to point out that we have passed the 13,000 post mark. Regards Gary
#59 gazza555 Apr 11, 2006 3:53:56	Update time Greyhawk: 5695 (-160) Regards Gary
#60 Hugin Apr 11, 2006 9:33:29	Alright! That's much better. The MML has been very active lately as well - good news.
#61 Hugin Apr 17, 2006 11:51:37	Update time Greyhawk: 5513 (-182) Doing good... (notice the traditional Monday flood of posts so far? :D )
#62 thorf Apr 17, 2006 12:00:45	Yes - you guys just won't let me get to sleep here!! See, it's Tuesday already now. :P ;)
#63 gazza555 Apr 18, 2006 6:02:06	Well at some point over the long weekend Dark Sun overtook Dragonlance. For us, however, its update time again. Greyhawk: 5488 (-25) Regards Gary
#64 thorf Apr 18, 2006 6:23:46	Well at some point over the long weekend Dark Sun overtook Dragonlance. For us, however, its update time again. Greyhawk: 5488 (-25) Regards Gary I was thinking that the update was pretty small, until I realised that those 25 posts are all since the last update, which was less than 20 hours before this one... :D
#65 gazza555 Apr 18, 2006 6:29:46	I was thinking that the update was pretty small, until I realised that those 25 posts are all since the last update, which was less than 20 hours before this one... :D Now if we could close the gap at a rate of 25 posts per day we'd catch up in no time at all. ;) Regards Gary
#66 spellweaver Apr 19, 2006 10:22:43	Thinking about starting the "Think I'll ever catch up with Hugin?"-thread... :evillaugh Jesper Hugin's posts: Total posts: 1292 (1.67 Posts per day) Spellweaver's posts: Total posts: 886 (1.23 Posts per day) Argh! Still a long way to go! ;)
#67 thorf Apr 19, 2006 11:28:39	Thorf's Posts: Total Posts: 767 (1.69 posts per day) Does this mean I win? ;) Seriously, it used to be more than 2 posts per day, but my post count took a big hit while I was away late last year.
#68 Hugin Apr 19, 2006 12:15:32	Argh! Still a long way to go! ;) :D You shall never beat me! NEVER!!! :evillaugh (sorry, the DM in me was coming out! ;) ) If it makes you feel any better, a couple dozen of those posts are in the OOP, DM's, and House Rules forums. Does this mean I win? ;) It sure does! here's your prize... (I hope it's something nice) It nice to have a thread like this just to have some fun now and then, eh? ("eh", now that's the Canadian coming out in me ;) )
#69 gazza555 Apr 24, 2006 6:34:24	Update time. Greyhawk: 5335 (-153) Regards Gary
#70 havard Apr 24, 2006 9:11:08	Update time. Greyhawk: 5335 (-153) Going steady... :D Some day....some day... Håvard
#71 gazza555 May 02, 2006 6:16:58	For what it's worth here's the monthly update for May - I guess I'll be doing another one in two weeks. ;)
#72 gazza555 May 15, 2006 5:55:07	Seeing as these posts will be sticking around, time for another update. Greyhawk: 5161 (-85) On a related topic - I've just noticed that we have passed 14,000 posts! :bounce: That's about 1,000 posts in the last month - including a quiet period when we thought the posts wouldn't be saved. Also with the Mystara article in Dragon 344 and the forthcoming Dungeon Adventure Path featuring the Isle of Dread we should hopefully attract some new blood to the boards. Regards Gary
#73 havard May 15, 2006 6:53:42	This is great! But whats this new deal with the board upgrades? Does that mean everything posted between may 1st and june 12th will be lost? Grrrr...! Håvard
#74 thorf May 15, 2006 7:08:17	This is great! But whats this new deal with the board upgrades? Does that mean everything posted between may 1st and june 12th will be lost? The stuff from 1st May to now is all going to stay, and instead the dates for disappearing posts have changed to 31st May to 12th June. In other words, we still have to go through a period where posts will disappear after a week or two.
#75 gazza555 May 16, 2006 10:13:13	After seeing this link on the Paizo boards, I decided to add Mystara to the mix, for this result. You can just make out Mystara entering the 'battle' in mid January 2006. If you just compare Mystara with Eberron you get this. But if you look at the bottom of the screen Mystara beats Eberron in Italy and Brazil. Regards Gary
#76 wilhelm_ May 16, 2006 10:28:44	After seeing this link on the Paizo boards, I decided to add Mystara to the mix, for this result. You can just make out Mystara entering the 'battle' in mid January 2006. If you just compare Mystara with Eberron you get this. But if you look at the bottom of the screen Mystara beats Eberron in Italy and Brazil. Regards Gary Hehe, you are welcome :D
#77 Hugin May 16, 2006 10:33:04	It's interesting that Mystara beats Eberron in Japan. Thorf's been working hard over there, eh?! :D I'm not surprised by the Italy and Brazil results actually. Since I have discovered the Mystara net community I've noticed Mystara has a strong following in those regions - good job guys! It appears we have a lot of work to do here in Canada. But on the bright side, I've seen an increase in Mystara fans from here.
#78 gazza555 May 16, 2006 10:56:23	Thorf's been working hard over there I wonder if we can narrow it it down to one city. ;) I'm not surprised by the Italy and Brazil results actually Me neither, but it's nice to see the 'proof'. On a positive note, the fact that Mystara has appeared on the graph and is rising can only be a good thing. The Greyhawk line on the otherhand shows a slightly downhill trend. I did try more specific terms: Karameikos, Glantri, Pandius etc - but there wasn't enough data to work on. Regards Gary
#79 wilhelm_ May 16, 2006 11:26:28	Me neither, but it's nice to see the 'proof'. Unfortunately, K:KoA was the only mystaran book translated to portuguese (at least here, in Brazil); So, part of the texts in portuguese about Mystara tend to be very non-cannon or superficial. Part of it also refers to an Ultima Online server that is called Mystara too (but, as far as I know, isn't related with our Mystara). But we are redeeming ourselves... Or, at least, I'm doing my part :D By the way, while testing what would come while looking for "Mystara" in Portuguese, i just found one old work I've done for the rpg website Os Arautos (The Heralds), that unfortunately no longer exists. There is almost nothing there now (although I'm surprised that this still exists!), but I guess you guys would like to take a look Don't forget taking a look at the links. How many do you recognise? :D http://members.fortunecity.com/mystara/
#80 gazza555 May 22, 2006 10:08:32	Update time again. Greyhawk: 5061 (-100) Regards Gary
#81 gazza555 May 25, 2006 3:56:32	Yet another update Greyhawk: 4992 (-69) So we've broken through the 5,000 posts to go mark. Regards Gary
#82 Hugin May 25, 2006 9:06:45	Alright!!! There's no stopping the Mystara Train! *hears train whistle in background*
#83 havard May 25, 2006 9:35:32	Alright!!! There's no stopping the Mystara Train! *hears train whistle in background* Looking back at Ravenloft and Planescape and how difficult I thought it was going to be to beat those boards, I'm actually beginning to believe that we can do this! Håvard
#84 Hugin May 25, 2006 19:04:21	Hey, isn't it good to see people are still signing up on the petition thread? I'm quite surprised to see this many. Plus, it seems there's an increase in Mystaran discussion in several locations as well.
#85 maddog May 25, 2006 20:34:57	Alright!!! There's no stopping the Mystara Train! *hears train whistle in background* Ridin' out the rails on crazy train! I'm ridin' out the rails on a crazy train. *Sings offkey (with much apologies to Ozzy Ozbourne)* :D --Ray.
#86 Cthulhudrew May 25, 2006 20:37:11	Plus, it seems there's an increase in Mystaran discussion in several locations as well. All we need to do now is to start some viral marketing for Mystara. Seed the web, all!
#87 zombiegleemax Jun 03, 2006 10:11:24	And people like me need to stop vanishing for long periods. Back to lurk mode now. I would be more active but I have a baby girl that is quite demanding and a business on the rise. ;) Which reminds me, I have a network meeting to attend.
#88 gawain_viii Jun 03, 2006 10:18:57	I'll be in lurk-mode for a while, as well. I'm recovering from a hernia surgery, while trying to re-create all my Mystara d20 work which was lost in a HD failure. I'll still pop in from time to time, but will mostly just be reading. Roger
#89 gazza555 Jun 05, 2006 3:01:21	For what it's worth, here's the monthly update for June - I guess I'll be doing another one in two weeks when this one disappears. ;)
#90 havard Jun 14, 2006 3:04:45	For what it's worth, here's the monthly update for June - I guess I'll be doing another one in two weeks when this one disappears. ;)
#91 thorf Jun 14, 2006 3:13:46	So, how has the Board upgrade affected things? Håvard It hasn't yet, since these are still the old boards. It looks like there may be another delay. By the way, you will know when the new boards are here, because aside from having a message at the top they also look a little different.
#92 havard Jun 14, 2006 3:26:39	It hasn't yet, since these are still the old boards. It looks like there may be another delay. By the way, you will know when the new boards are here, because aside from having a message at the top they also look a little different. Ah, thanks! I assumed since the announcement was gone that the update had been made. Lets just hope the loss of posting due to all this back and forth going of the upgrades is distributed evenly between the OOP Worlds... Håvard
#93 gazza555 Jun 14, 2006 4:00:05	Ah, thanks! I assumed since the announcement was gone that the update had been made. Lets just hope the loss of posting due to all this back and forth going of the upgrades is distributed evenly between the OOP Worlds... I would assume that the boards the post more frequently will suffer the most. So Dark Sun will lose the most ;) From what I read on the thread that was linked to in the announcement the old boards will remain up for a month after the new boards come into existance so there will probably be a lot of 'cutting and pasting' going on. Regards Gary
#94 gazza555 Jun 15, 2006 6:49:52	See as these post should be permanent, it's update time again. Greyhawk: 4849 (-45) Regards Gary
#95 gazza555 Jul 03, 2006 6:52:17	Monthly update time. Its been a rather quiet time on the boards lately. ;)
#96 gazza555 Jul 26, 2006 6:11:33	Time for an update. Greyhawk: 4546 (-200) And another milestone has been reached:- 15,000+ posts Regards Gary
#97 havard Jul 26, 2006 10:13:29	Time for an update. Greyhawk: 4546 (-200) And another milestone has been reached:- 15,000+ posts Hurrah! :bounce:
#98 gazza555 Aug 01, 2006 6:19:19	Another month, another update...
#99 Hugin Aug 01, 2006 13:09:21	Now that's what I call a prompt update, Gary! I'm quite surprised we did that well considering all the board upgrade difficulties. I guess it affected all the forums roughly equally. P.S. 15000 POSTS!
#100 maddog Aug 01, 2006 13:42:41
#101 maddog Aug 30, 2006 15:26:38	Now that we're over on the new boards. Have the numbers changed? --Ray.
#102 gazza555 Sep 01, 2006 3:16:02	In response to Maddog, and because it's that time of month... ... it's update time.
#103 havard Sep 01, 2006 3:33:33	In response to Maddog, and because it's that time of month... ... it's update time. Thanks Gary! I really want to know the secret of the Dark Sun forum.... Håvard
#104 Cthulhudrew Sep 12, 2006 17:44:08	Just because I noticed the boards have been pretty active the past couple of days: Dragonlance 29,671 -195 Dark Sun 34,143 +246 Greyhawk 3,864 -216 We've passed the 4,000 post difference between us and Greyhawk!
#105 maddog Sep 28, 2006 6:40:29	So..... What are the numbers? I had the feeling lately that the Mystara board has been kinda quiet. --Ray.
#106 gazza555 Sep 28, 2006 6:54:11	To hold Ray 'til Monday (monthly update time) :D We have at the moment Dragonlance: 29619 (-52) Dark Sun: 34394 (+251) Greyhawk: 3755 (-109) Regards Gary
#107 gazza555 Oct 02, 2006 7:39:44	Ok it's that time of the month again.
#108 Hugin Oct 02, 2006 16:04:21	On average we're closing the gap to Greyhawk at about 300 posts a month. Looks a year-long battle ahead of us. ;)
#109 gawain_viii Oct 02, 2006 17:26:40	Looks a year-long battle ahead of us. Unless we start posting about any and everything no matter how vaguely or remotely Mystaran, or how many times the topic has been debated to death. Shall I bring up the idea of classic vs. 3e again? Or maybe an essay-long rant about how all other campaign worlds steal their ideas from Mystara only after we've playtested it... (I'm still fuming over those so-called 'hin' on Toril; and the flying ships in the Shining South.) Nah, I don't think that will help... However, there is good news: I should have "Monsters of the Known World" ready by the end of the month, if not before (thanks TDA). Speaking of Monster collections, does anyone know how to get in touch with Tim Beach? I would like to talk to him about doing the preface to the Savage Coast portion of my PDF project. Roger
#110 Cthulhudrew Oct 02, 2006 19:16:45	(I'm still fuming over those so-called 'hin' on Toril; To be fair, though, the name hin was coined by Ed Greenwood- the creator of the Forgotten Realms, and used in Gaz5 when he was working as a freelancer for TSR. I'd imagine it was a holdover from his own campaigns, and that he probably always intended the halflings of the Realms to be known as hin as well. Seems logical to me, anyway.
#111 gawain_viii Oct 03, 2006 1:05:16	I know, I was just stirring things up... Roger
#112 zombiegleemax Oct 03, 2006 1:23:05	Here's hoping we do!!!
#113 gawain_viii Oct 03, 2006 6:18:39	To be fair, though, the name hin was coined by Ed Greenwood- the creator of the Forgotten Realms, and used in Gaz5 when he was working as a freelancer for TSR. I'd imagine it was a holdover from his own campaigns, and that he probably always intended the halflings of the Realms to be known as hin as well. Seems logical to me, anyway. Does that mean I can use Denial and the Halfling Master in my wife's FR game? :D
#114 gawain_viii Oct 03, 2006 6:21:09	You now, these one-liners can help our numbers too. (But I wouldn't recommend them for any threads with substance--that can get confusing.) It can help my own numbers too... Total Posts: 186 (0.67 posts per day) Roger
#115 Cthulhudrew Oct 03, 2006 6:43:35	Does that mean I can use Denial and the Halfling Master in my wife's FR game? :D You can use denial any time you want- it just may not actually help you out.
#116 gazza555 Oct 03, 2006 6:46:20	Does that mean I can use Denial and the Halfling Master in my wife's FR game? :D Only if you've managed to drag the Shires with you. :D BTW. We have passed the 1,000 thread mark! Regards Gary
#117 Cthulhudrew Oct 04, 2006 4:36:39	Speaking of Monster collections, does anyone know how to get in touch with Tim Beach? I would like to talk to him about doing the preface to the Savage Coast portion of my PDF project. Why not ask Bruce? He's the creator of the Savage Coast as it currently exists, after all.
#118 phoenixmcl Oct 08, 2006 14:38:16	If I keep hanging out here we will! Long Live King Karamiekos!
#119 zombiegleemax Oct 08, 2006 17:23:10	I'm more interested in what the Athas crowd has going for it. I've never really been able to understand the appeal. But then I've only ever played Mystara, homebrew or FR (and I always found FR too restrictive, but that might just have been the DMs).
#120 gazza555 Nov 02, 2006 2:49:39	Ok it's that time of the month again.
#121 gazza555 Nov 14, 2006 7:09:49	At some point when posting the L section of monster lore I passed the 1,000 posts point. And while I'm here: Greyhawk: 3340 (-248) Regards Gary
#122 gazza555 Dec 02, 2006 8:11:49	Ok it's that time of the month again.
#123 culture20 Dec 02, 2006 10:20:56	*snicker* I thought we agreed: no empty post inflation.
#124 maddog Dec 02, 2006 18:55:01	*snicker* I thought we agreed: no empty post inflation. The club oath doesn't say anything about that and I didn't sign any statements! :D
#125 gawain_viii Dec 02, 2006 19:05:27	no empty post inflation I'm not quite sure what you mean by that. Please feel free to offer a lengthy elaboration in several short successive posts. Roger
#126 zombiegleemax Dec 03, 2006 7:38:51	Ok it's that time of the month again.
#127 culture20 Dec 03, 2006 19:46:48	The columns that are month-named are the post counts relative to ours. The "change" column shows how much relative change there was between our post-count and another forum's. So, Dark Sun seems to be the only group posting more than us.
#128 gazza555 Dec 04, 2006 4:22:18	The columns that are month-named are the post counts relative to ours. The "change" column shows how much relative change there was between our post-count and another forum's. So, Dark Sun seems to be the only group posting more than us. What Culture20 said ;) For example on the 2nd of November we were 3588 posts behind the Greyhawk board, by the 2nd of December we were 'only' 3130 posts behind. Meaning, obviously, that we closed the gap by 458 posts. Negative numbers in the months columns mean that we are actually ahead of that board. They're left in for nostalgia purposes - the first thread of this type asked the question 'Think we'll ever catch up with Ravenloft?' - which we did and are now 6219 posts ahead of. :D Regards Gary
#129 havard Dec 04, 2006 8:21:04	Negative numbers in the months columns mean that we are actually ahead of that board. They're left in for nostalgia purposes - the first thread of this type asked the question 'Think we'll ever catch up with Ravenloft?' - which we did and are now 6219 posts ahead of. :D That's amazing isn't it? It doesn't seem like such a long time ago... Havard
#130 Hugin Dec 24, 2006 21:01:50	Happy Holidays everybody, and a great New Year! I hope people are enjoying the holidays, or at the very least, have a fantastic week.
#131 gazza555 Jan 03, 2007 7:38:36	A belated Happy Christmas and great New Year to everyone. I've been laid up over the festive period with tendonitis in my right foot. But it meant I saved some money and actually got around to entering the events data for years AC1018 and 1019 in the Mystaran Calendar - I just need to work at head office long enough to upload the data. First update of the new year .
#132 havard Jan 03, 2007 10:27:58	Looking back to 3rd Jan '06 we were 6786 behind Greyhawk so we've closed the gap by nearly 4,000 (actually 3949) over the last year. Keep up the good work. Happy New Year Gary! Looking at your statistics, it looks like we should be able to bypass Greyhawk some time this year. Dragonlance is next on the list though, and looks like a formidable opponent. Dark Sun looks almost impossible. OTOH, there was a time when even Ravenloft looked like they would always be ahead of us... Havard
#133 Mortepierre Jan 03, 2007 11:41:50	OTOH, there was a time when even Ravenloft looked like they would always be ahead of us... RL doesn't really count anymore since most of its fans relocated to the boards of the FoS.
#134 havard Jan 03, 2007 12:02:58	RL doesn't really count anymore since most of its fans relocated to the boards of the FoS. What do you mean they don't count? It's not our fault they dont want to compete is it? :evillaugh
#135 culture20 Jan 03, 2007 20:29:41	Dragonlance is next on the list though, and looks like a formidable opponent. I hate to be a gloomy Gus, but I think DL will be strong for the next couple years. With the first DL movie coming out later this year, I have a feeling Wizards will be promoting it more than usual, causing a rapid increase in their postings.
#136 havard Jan 20, 2007 8:03:58	I hate to be a gloomy Gus, but I think DL will be strong for the next couple years. With the first DL movie coming out later this year, I have a feeling Wizards will be promoting it more than usual, causing a rapid increase in their postings. What DL movie? Eragon? Oh yeah, is anyone besides me annoyed at this constant "down for nightly maintainance" routine WotC has started now? Nightly maintainance is right in the middle of my prime posting time. And I know I aint the only european on these boards... grrrr How are we going to beat Dragonlance this way? Havard
#137 stanles Jan 20, 2007 8:48:57	What DL movie? Eragon? Oh yeah, is anyone besides me annoyed at this constant "down for nightly maintainance" routine WotC has started now? Nightly maintainance is right in the middle of my prime posting time. And I know I aint the only european on these boards... grrrr How are we going to beat Dragonlance this way? Havard for me here it seems to be between the hours of 6.00 and 7.30 am, which is my usual checking time before I leave for work - or at least it used to be. Not that I post that much I suppose.
#138 Cthulhudrew Jan 20, 2007 12:25:00	What DL movie? Eragon? There's a Dragonlance animated movie set to come out some time this year. Oh yeah, is anyone besides me annoyed at this constant "down for nightly maintainance" routine WotC has started now? What time do they do it now? It used to be every day around 2 am - 4 am or so here on the west coast of the USA (which kind of annoyed me, as at the time I was usually up and about and looking for something to do at those hours). Now I'm not up at that time, so I haven't noticed it lately.
#139 havard Jan 21, 2007 7:40:47	There's a Dragonlance animated movie set to come out some time this year. Wow cool! Too bad that with Eragon out, people will think it is a rip off.... :P What time do they do it now? It used to be every day around 2 am - 4 am or so here on the west coast of the USA (which kind of annoyed me, as at the time I was usually up and about and looking for something to do at those hours). Now I'm not up at that time, so I haven't noticed it lately. Id say around 10am-1230pm CET. I dunno though....just tends to be around the times when I want to do my posting... :P Havard
#140 gazza555 Jan 23, 2007 2:54:40	Id say around 10am-1230pm CET. I dunno though....just tends to be around the times when I want to do my posting... :P And it's taking longer - it used to start about 11am, now as Havard says its more like 10am. Regards Gary
#141 culture20 Jan 23, 2007 19:47:27	The nightly maintainance is something of a quandry for me; and I'm a sysadmin. Maintainance for production servers is usually set into a specific window once a week minimum, and even then it's not done _every_ window. The only thing I can think of is that they're transferring the data from the boards to a test server as the last stage of an upgrade to a new physical machine. So, it's probably not going to last forever.
#142 gazza555 Feb 01, 2007 3:51:48	Another month, another update.
#143 havard Feb 01, 2007 3:56:29	Steady progress again this month, and we've just passed 18,000 posts. :D Good work folks! Even with big muscle folks like DM and Thorf being away for a while, we are still managing it seems! Havard
#144 gazza555 Mar 02, 2007 7:45:31	Another month, another update.
#145 havard Mar 16, 2007 11:39:07	This situation just keeps looking better doesn't it? :D Havard
#146 zombiegleemax Mar 16, 2007 17:22:32	Wow, nice to see progress keeps on while I have been away. Took a long vacation from D&D, but now I'm back and a 3.5er and I really do like it better than my old RCD&D. Time to get those Mystic rules I put together a while back and convert it to 3.5.
#147 havard Mar 16, 2007 17:30:28	Wow, nice to see progress keeps on while I have been away. Took a long vacation from D&D, but now I'm back and a 3.5er and I really do like it better than my old RCD&D. Time to get those Mystic rules I put together a while back and convert it to 3.5. Good to have you back Tjedge! Congrats with the edition convertion. I'm actually in the process of taking a break from 3.5 myself. Still interested in everything related to Mystara though! Havard
#148 zombiegleemax Mar 16, 2007 17:41:30	Thanks. This time I really want to stay. I hate coming and going. Then I come back and it takes me a week to read as much as I can before I start posting like a fool. I don't want to repeat said things too often now.
#149 Hugin Mar 17, 2007 17:55:08	Thanks. This time I really want to stay. I hate coming and going. Then I come back and it takes me a week to read as much as I can before I start posting like a fool. I don't want to repeat said things too often now. Good to see you back, tjedge1! As others have told you, there's been a lot of really good stuff on these boards over the last year; enough to keep you busy for... well, nearly a year! ;) :D
#150 zombiegleemax Mar 18, 2007 1:33:11	No kidding. I remember when I first joined these boards and the same threads were on the first page for at least a month with barely any posts. The last couple years there has been a huge boost here. Looks like this last year was steady for sure. And not just with chit chat posts like this one. I also see a few new smilies.
#151 zombiegleemax Apr 08, 2007 3:47:43	No kidding. I remember when I first joined these boards and the same threads were on the first page for at least a month with barely any posts. The last couple years there has been a huge boost here. Looks like this last year was steady for sure. And not just with chit chat posts like this one. I also see a few new smilies. Like Tjedge, it is quite amazing to see the dynamics here. It's really great to return here after all this while and see how lively and creative these boards still are. While I definitely have less time now than before, I hope to be here more often.
#152 havard Apr 08, 2007 6:49:14	Like Tjedge, it is quite amazing to see the dynamics here. It's really great to return here after all this while and see how lively and creative these boards still are. While I definitely have less time now than before, I hope to be here more often. Good to have you back Woodrake Hope everyone is enjoying Easter, Passover or whatever they are doing this Weekend Havard
#153 gazza555 Apr 10, 2007 7:25:18	A bit late this month due to the hol's.
#154 zombiegleemax Apr 10, 2007 7:33:21	Good to have you back Woodrake Hope everyone is enjoying Easter, Passover or whatever they are doing this Weekend Havard Good to be back! Thanks. And more than 19,000 posts! Who would have thought? :D
#155 havard Apr 19, 2007 8:22:08	Approaching Greyhawk..... Havard
#156 Hugin Apr 19, 2007 9:27:53	Approaching Greyhawk..... Havard Prepare to draw weapons... :fight!: or or or I think they should just :surrender lol
#157 gazza555 Apr 19, 2007 9:38:40	Prepare to draw weapons... :fight!: or or or I don't think that they're close enough for melee weapons yet, but missile weapons sure. :D Give us six more months and it will be and Greyhawk will be Regards Gary
#158 Traianus_Decius_Aureus Apr 19, 2007 9:47:23	I don't think that they're close enough for melee weapons yet, but missile weapons sure. :D Give us six more months and it will be and Greyhawk will be Regards Gary And we'll be all like :bounce: then their survivors will be :raincloud and but they might go and start so we will have to :invasion: In the end we're I have way too much time on my hands...
#159 Hugin Apr 19, 2007 9:59:11	I have traveled to Wyrmsteeth with a and have forged a new ally in the form of . I have also received a message from an initiate Immortal. His words were few but he spoke of Greyhawk . (I really should be doing more work ;) )
#160 zombiegleemax Apr 19, 2007 15:06:05	Well, yeah. But there's still the issue of , not to mention and , as all can plainly see. So I suppose we shouldn't , nor should they yet - for it might be a too soon. Or perhaps not.
#161 havard Apr 20, 2007 6:58:09
#162 gazza555 Apr 20, 2007 9:34:48	of posts and all Mystarans should :pile: on. Regards Gary
#163 Hugin Apr 20, 2007 10:51:32	Just noticed 8 members and 7 guests on the forum. Is that a record? (it must close).
#164 Cthulhudrew Apr 20, 2007 11:14:42	Anyone know of any tutorials or anything on making Smilies? I think we should make some Mystara-specific ones.
#165 gazza555 Apr 27, 2007 10:47:28	Anyone know of any tutorials or anything on making Smilies? I think we should make some Mystara-specific ones. AFIAK you can't add new smiles as such, but you could create animated gifs - with a graphics program of you choice and host them on imageshack or photobucket for example, or any web space you happen to have spare. Then link to them with img tags. Any ideas for smilies? Regards Gary
#166 havard Apr 27, 2007 11:42:04	Any ideas for smilies? I'd love to see some! * Maybe a smiley face emerging from the opened Hollow World? * A vampire-like smiley with the name "Morphail" blinking above his head? * A space man smiley with the "Beagle" insignia on his helmet? * Rakasta smiley! * Lupin Smiley! * hmmm....something something red steel..hmmm ideas? What else? Havard
#167 Cthulhudrew Apr 27, 2007 12:30:29	Following Havard's suggestion, how about either a Planet cracks to form Hollow World smiley, or just a Hollow World smiley. Others: Bargle smiley Airship smiley Brain Collector smiley
#168 gazza555 May 01, 2007 7:38:32	Another month, another update.
#169 havard May 01, 2007 8:42:17	Good...good Looks like the Dark Sun board is loosing some momentum? Can we keep this up til Christmas? Beating GH would be a nice way of starting the holidays... :evillaugh Havard
#170 Hugin May 02, 2007 11:27:44	Yep! Looks like I'll be replacing our 'Christmas Turkey' with a 'Christmas Greyhawk'! :D
#171 bigmac May 07, 2007 7:24:08	Another month, another update.
#172 gazza555 May 08, 2007 6:05:07	Hey. Where is Spelljammer? I only list the boards that are still or used to be ahead of the Mystara board. The Spelljammer board is fairly quiet at the moment. ;) Regards Gary
#173 gazza555 Jun 02, 2007 3:10:51	Another month, another update.
#174 havard Jun 02, 2007 9:33:21	Within 50 posts of the next major milestone: 20,000 posts. And over 8,000 posts ahead of Ravenloft - who would have thought that originally. We can't afford to slow down now!
#175 gazza555 Jun 05, 2007 9:26:13	20,000 posts!!! Regards Gary
#176 havard Jun 05, 2007 9:39:04	20,000 posts!!! Regards Gary Time to party! :bounce: :pile: :invasion: :inlove:
#177 Hugin Jun 05, 2007 10:14:52	WOW!!! How'da thunk it!! :pile::bounce: And imagine we had a party when we had reached 1/10th this number!
#178 culture20 Jun 05, 2007 15:49:32	Yay! Greyhawk is within our grasp. I wouldn't have thought that a few years back (but the numbers did say we had a steady acceleration).
#179 gazza555 Jul 03, 2007 5:37:03	Another month, another update.
#180 maddog Jul 03, 2007 7:59:35
#181 gazza555 Jul 03, 2007 8:34:44	Wow! a -80 against Dragonlance. We've never been in a position where we were gaining on Dragonlance before. I think you're confusing Dragonlance with Dark Sun. Over the last 6 months the gains on Dragonlance (in reverse order) are 80, 72, 121, 24, 95, and 227. So in total in the last 6 months we have narrowed the gap to Dragonlance by over 600 posts (or 100 posts per month). So with 28144 to go we should overtake Dragonlance in 23 and a half years. :D Regards Gary
#182 maddog Jul 03, 2007 8:41:34	I think you're confusing Dragonlance with Dark Sun. Over the last 6 months the gains on Dragonlance (in reverse order) are 80, 72, 121, 24, 95, and 227. So in total in the last 6 months we have narrowed the gap to Dragonlance by over 600 posts (or 100 posts per month). So with 28144 to go we should overtake Dragonlance in 23 and a half years. :D This one completely slipped past me. I had thought that both DS and DL were continually gaining on us. Luckily, Mystara will still be around in 23 years (but will the WotC boards be here?). --Ray.
#183 Hugin Jul 03, 2007 9:00:54	Wow! a -80 against Dragonlance. We've never been in a position where we were gaining on Dragonlance before. Let's hope the momentum keeps going! I thought we were gaining on everybody except Dark Sun. The OOP boards have had a good month and have closed on us slightly. Hey! Look at the moose over there...
#184 havard Jul 03, 2007 12:35:43	Good work! I wish I could do more, but I'm out of the country and have somewhat limited computer access and alot of access to the sun which also needs to be taken advantage of. Im glad you guys are holding the fort! Havard
#185 gazza555 Aug 01, 2007 7:11:41	Another month, another update.
#186 gazza555 Aug 09, 2007 10:41:28	Just noticed 8 members and 7 guests on the forum. Is that a record? (it must close). 9 members and thirteen guests as I write Scratch that - there's now 10 members and 17 guests :D <2nd edit> It's now 12 members and 20 guests - party time Regards Gary
#187 gawain_viii Aug 09, 2007 16:36:14	16 Members, 32 guests at 1740hrs EST.
#188 stanles Aug 10, 2007 5:01:52	16 Members, 32 guests at 1740hrs EST. I logged on as a guest during the day yesterday and noticed that my name was still there as having been logged on, even though I had been logged on in the morning. Despite the good numbers I suspect it's just an error.
#189 gazza555 Aug 10, 2007 5:12:30	I logged on as a guest during the day yesterday and noticed that my name was still there as having been logged on, even though I had been logged on in the morning. Despite the good numbers I suspect it's just an error. I suspect you're right. I noticed that the numbers were just going up and no members seemed to be logging out. It's probably something to do with the migration to the gleemax domain and such. It seems ok now, Shawn, you're not there as logged in at the moment. ;) Regards Gary
#190 Hugin Aug 10, 2007 8:44:29	It seems that we weren't logged out when we left the boards. Yesterday I logged in at work (I get logged in automatically when I visit) to do my daily reading, but when I got home I had to log in manually. Now this was odd because I should have been logged in automatically, yet I wasn't logged in at all. HOWEVER, "hugin" appeared in the "Currently Active Users" box. I tried to log in and it would do it but when it redirected me back to where I was, guess what, I wasn't logged in, even though "hugin" appeared in the Users box. It was like... the Twilight Zone *queue eerie music*
#191 gazza555 Aug 10, 2007 9:37:44	It seems that we weren't logged out when we left the boards. Yesterday I logged in at work (I get logged in automatically when I visit) to do my daily reading, but when I got home I had to log in manually. IIRC the was an announcement regarding the caching of cookies during the change to the new domain name, as well as mentioning that the 'remember me' option had been disabled during the change. The forums may be remembering you unless you actively log out rather than just going to another web page as I am liable to do ;) Anyway it's generating some extra posts, so it's not all bad news Regards Gary
#192 phoenixmcl Aug 24, 2007 12:35:13	I think with 4e changing to FR and Living Greyhawk done. I think greyhawk just caught up to us. :D
#193 gazza555 Sep 03, 2007 6:05:55	First update since 4E announcement, how will that change things?
#194 eldersphinx Sep 03, 2007 8:50:47	First update since 4E announcement, how will that change things? Interesting way to open things. Been watching the particular trend I note below for awhile now.
#195 havard Sep 03, 2007 12:02:57	A better month this time with only Dark Sun (As usual) getting more posts than us. Will we catch up with Greyhawk before 4E comes out? Those Athas guys are amazing. Wonder how they do it! Catching up to GH before 4e sounds like a good goal. We should be able to make it!
#196 gazza555 Sep 17, 2007 6:43:26	Well that's another milestone passed 21,000 posts :bounce: Less than 1,000 behind Greyhawk :D Regards Gary
#197 Hugin Sep 17, 2007 8:48:24	Well that's another milestone passed 21,000 posts :bounce: Less than 1,000 behind Greyhawk :D Regards Gary Great! We've really picked up in last little while after having our sleepy dog days of summer. It will happen, its just a matter of time. (And seeing a few new 'faces' around always helps too).
#198 havard Sep 17, 2007 9:38:38	Well that's another milestone passed 21,000 posts :bounce: Less than 1,000 behind Greyhawk :D [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] HUZZAH! Havard
#199 merrikcale Oct 01, 2007 21:23:19	what do you expect? Its better than Greyhawk
#200 havard Oct 02, 2007 12:33:16	what do you expect? Its better than Greyhawk That's the spirit! We actually started out with trying to catch up with Ravenloft and then Planescape, so now its great to see that we can even beat Greyhawk. Dragonlance next! :D Havard
#201 merrikcale Oct 02, 2007 22:08:54	That's the spirit! We actually started out with trying to catch up with Ravenloft and then Planescape, so now its great to see that we can even beat Greyhawk. Dragonlance next! :D Havard ya know, I always thought Greyhawk was a stronger setting than Dragonlance although I loved the trilogy when it came out.
#202 havard Oct 03, 2007 7:18:08	ya know, I always thought Greyhawk was a stronger setting than Dragonlance although I loved the trilogy when it came out. I think both the Chronicles and Legends trilogies are awesome. The strength of DL is that it has a huge following outside those who actually play in the setting due to the novels. The problem for Greyhawk (and Mystara) as that these settings compete more directly for the same market that the FR does. This is probably also another reason why we are much further down on the list of worlds that are being considered brought over to 4e than DL is. 3E may have been the last moment of Glory for GH, although it doesn't seem like they appreciated it all that much... Havard
#203 maddog Oct 03, 2007 10:19:02	3E may have been the last moment of Glory for GH, although it doesn't seem like they appreciated it all that much... WotC, Greyhawkers or do you mean both? Just curious.... I think using GH in 3e/35e was a good idea as it (re)introduced many new and old players to the setting. I have to admit, GH is my #2 setting of choice. --Ray.
#204 slashnull Oct 07, 2007 11:37:41	Those Athas guys are amazing. Wonder how they do it! As an athasophile I pop into the Dark Sun boards every so often. I think the reason there is so much discussion is because of the dedicated fans who are putting out new releases! It's a lot of work and effort by the fans, and of course leads to debates about what is canon and what is not. Some peoples feathers get ruffled and everyone ends up having, shall we say, heated debates. It reminds me of the back and forth there was when the Net Almanacs were coming out and everyone got upset when their favourite country got dealt with in a poor way
#205 havard Oct 07, 2007 16:29:52	WotC, Greyhawkers or do you mean both? Just curious.... I think using GH in 3e/35e was a good idea as it (re)introduced many new and old players to the setting. I have to admit, GH is my #2 setting of choice. Oops, forgot to respond to this one. I was refferring to the Greyhawk fans. I got the impression many of them didnt like the way GH was presented in the 3E material, feeling among other things that the setting was becoming more generic/watered out as it appeared under that edition. Having GH as your #2 favorite setting is acceptable Ray, as long as this is your #1 ;) Havard
#206 havard Oct 07, 2007 16:32:36	It reminds me of the back and forth there was when the Net Almanacs were coming out and everyone got upset when their favourite country got dealt with in a poor way A good reason for us to keep working on projects like the FGazetteers, Almanacs and similar things then. These products dont seem to spark as many debates as they once did, but I still think they are great to have. Maybe we should be making them more controversial, with Dwarven Wizards and stuff? ;) Hmmm, I am reminded that I still have work to do on the systemless Guide... Havard
#207 merrikcale Oct 07, 2007 20:33:03	I think both the Chronicles and Legends trilogies are awesome. The strength of DL is that it has a huge following outside those who actually play in the setting due to the novels. The problem for Greyhawk (and Mystara) as that these settings compete more directly for the same market that the FR does. True enough. But both Mystara and GH are more playable than DL.
#208 gazza555 Oct 09, 2007 3:45:04	First day back at work this month, hence the update being a week late
#209 slashnull Oct 09, 2007 12:53:21	I think Dark Sun will be ahead for a good while yet! But less than a thousand to Greyhawk is not bad!
#210 gazza555 Oct 22, 2007 10:08:01	This seems the best thread for this little tidbit of information. I' currently looking at an old MMB/MML member Paul Dooley - he' doing a computer course with us. Regards Gary
#211 havard Oct 22, 2007 10:31:22	This seems the best thread for this little tidbit of information. I' currently looking at an old MMB/MML member Paul Dooley - he' doing a computer course with us. Hey, I remember that guy. That is cool! I hope you are forcing him to return to our community? :D Håvard
#212 gazza555 Nov 05, 2007 5:24:50	Again, first day back at work this month, after a week off.
#213 slashnull Nov 05, 2007 8:40:59	At our current rate we should catch up with GH within 2-3 months. But what will we call the thread then?!?!?
#214 havard Nov 05, 2007 9:38:54	But what will we call the thread then?!?!? Each time we have caught up with one of the other boards, we have made a new thread indicating our next goal. Always looking forward you know ;) Once we have beaten the Hawkers, I guess DL will be next. Havard
#215 slashnull Nov 05, 2007 11:22:19	Always looking forward you know ;) Once we have beaten the Hawkers, I guess DL will be next. Havard Then instead of a few hundred it will only be 27000 to go! We'd better get a posting!
#216 havard Nov 05, 2007 12:37:16	Then instead of a few hundred it will only be 27000 to go! We'd better get a posting! Yep, DL will be a tough one. Ofcourse, once DL is brought over to 4e, it is possible that traffic there stops altogether in favor of the 4e DL forum? In any case, this thread is helping too Havard
#217 gazza555 Dec 03, 2007 4:43:30	Another month, another update
#218 Hugin Dec 03, 2007 8:44:40	The rate's a little slow at the moment... [*sickmind*] That's quite alright. There's something satisfying about dishing out a slow, lingering death. :evillaugh [*/sickmind]
#219 havard Dec 03, 2007 11:34:08	Things slowed down around the US holidays. I guess that affected all of the boards. Personally it looks like I'm going to be really busy for the rest of the month, but then again I tend to post more when I have alot of other stuff to do, so we'll see what happens. 500 posts really doesnt seem like all that much though.... :D Havard
#220 Cthulhudrew Dec 03, 2007 11:56:39	Holy crap- 500 posts! I can't believe we're so close. Soon, my friends, we'll be number 3!! :evillaugh We're #3! We're #3!
#221 Cthulhudrew Feb 12, 2008 14:31:35	Haven't seen Gary around in a while, and it's been some time since the last update, so:
#222 agathokles Feb 14, 2008 16:50:50	DS seems so darn popular- makes me wonder why WotC never came out with an official version of it. It's not like it would have really competed with their other settings, would it? (Very different niches.) You mean a 3e version? There are actually two -- one published in Dragon Magazine, and one from Athas.org. Both are considered official, IIRC. And yes, it's a very different niche (high psionics, low magic, geared towards medium and high level characters, and with a very unsual ecology). GP
#223 maddog Feb 14, 2008 18:17:13	500 posts really doesnt seem like all that much though.... :D Certainly doesn't. Remember when Ravenloft seemed so far ahead?
#224 Cthulhudrew Feb 15, 2008 1:14:06	You mean a 3e version? There are actually two -- one published in Dragon Magazine, and one from Athas.org. Both are considered official, IIRC. I should have clarified. What I meant was, why didn't WotC ever come out with something of their own along the lines of the FRCS or Eberron, as well as supplementary material for 3E. IIRC, the Dragon version was done by the Paizo guys, and the Athas one by the Athas guys (with there being some disagreement amongst the Athas guys about the Paizo presentation). I can't imagine that a hardcover DS book by WotC would have been a poor seller- even if they just ended up repackaging and expanding upon one of the other versions (bringing in the Athas guys as freelancers, or paying the Paizo guys for using/expanding upon the work they'd already done.)
#225 agathokles Feb 15, 2008 8:59:36	I can't imagine that a hardcover DS book by WotC would have been a poor seller- I don't know. DS is very genre-specific, and not an especially popular genre, as far as I can tell. Sure, it's big on the message board, due to a strong and strongly centralized community -- I'm not aware of other large DS forums, while e.g. Ravenloft aways had large messageboards on the fan sites. Also, there are some elements of 3e that are not conductive to a faithful (or useful from a commercial point of view) representation of DS -- e.g., 3e being very dependent on equipment for character balancing, which conflicts with DS assumptions about lack of resources; DS presenting a very different setting than the usual, thus making most splatbooks useless (most Prestige Classes and the like would be useless in a DS campaign), and in general not conforming to the "everything goes" assumption of 3e. All in all, DS was probably less attractive than, e.g., Ravenloft. It might be more attractive for 4e (base premises are similar: PCs start stronger than NPCs, humans are no more common than some other PC races, lots of isolated communities and lots of dangers, limited reliance on equipment, possibility to play without certain classes, etc.), if WotC "no setting" policy became less strict in the future. GP
#226 maddog Feb 15, 2008 13:58:10	I've always been a bit confounded by DS. Not trolling here. I just don't see what would be "fun" about that setting. It's closer to Dune than DnD but that's just IMO. To each there own I guess. Yet another post toward Greyhawk domination! --Ray.
#227 agathokles Feb 15, 2008 15:50:49	I've always been a bit confounded by DS. Not trolling here. I just don't see what would be "fun" about that setting. It's closer to Dune than DnD but that's just IMO. To each there own I guess. True, it's closer to Dune than any other D&D setting, both in environment (desert, isolated planet divided into factions-states with ancient and decandent cultures as well as hardy but poor natives) and in theme (ecology). That may make it more or less interesting depending on personal tastes. OTOH, it makes for a setting that is clearly different from the standard ones, thus appealing to a different crowd -- which was Andrew's original consideration. GP
#228 Cthulhudrew Feb 16, 2008 16:09:03	I've always been a bit confounded by DS. Not trolling here. I just don't see what would be "fun" about that setting. It's closer to Dune than DnD but that's just IMO. To each there own I guess. I thought it sounded great when they originally advertised it back in the day, to the point I bought the first boxed set (and the Dragon-Kings hardcover and the- awful, awful Prism Pentad, which I only finished out of a stubborn sense of wanting the back story to the world; thankfully, that stubbornness I managed to drum out of myself about 7 books into the Wheel of Time. :p) It was and is a pretty cool concept, it just quickly became too much of the same. Virtually an entire desert planet got really boring, really quick. The sorcerer-kings ruling over isolated cities got really boring, really quick. Basically, to me, while it had a lot of interesting concepts, they didn't have much life beyond the shock value. And then they have this series that lays out the back story and during the course of which they end up getting rid of that status quo in a strange way that really screws part of the concept (the sorcerer-king part). I have the same problem with sci-fi books that handwave the nature/populace of worlds by confining them to one single geographic feature (the water world, the forest world, the desert world). It just comes across as lazy and boring to me- but then, one of my favorite things is the interplay and differences between different cultures, so worlds that lack that aspect are obviously going to be of less interest to me.
#229 wilhelm_ Feb 24, 2008 20:27:49	22,301 for them, 22,031 for us, difference of 270, we're almost there! ...I mean, now it's 269 :D
#230 Hugin Mar 04, 2008 15:07:51	Here's a late March update:
#231 Cthulhudrew Mar 18, 2008 23:52:45	Wow. Only 92 posts away from Greyhawk. You guys have done a great job of keeping the flame going! (Not so much me, Mr. Absent lately).
#232 spellweaver Mar 23, 2008 11:59:19	Nice to see that the Mystara community is still not going gently into that good night... :D :-) Jesper
#233 Hugin Mar 24, 2008 8:45:42	Wow. Only 92 posts away from Greyhawk. You guys have done a great job of keeping the flame going! (Not so much me, Mr. Absent lately). Nice to see that the Mystara community is still not going gently into that good night... :D :-) Jesper Nice to see you guys back! I haven't been as active as I have been in the past due to RL but that should ease up soon.
#234 havard Mar 24, 2008 13:37:55	Looking good! Nice to see that old heroes don't stray too far off as well ;) Havard
#235 maddog Mar 24, 2008 13:41:44	Only 68 (er... 67) post for the tie! Post_Count+68+1 for the win! --Ray.
#236 havard Mar 25, 2008 17:38:37	Only 68 (er... 67) post for the tie! Post_Count+68+1 for the win! Hehe! 50 now! Havard
#237 CmdrCorsiken Mar 27, 2008 17:58:31	Hehe! 50 now! Havard Make that 8 ... no, 7 !
#238 maddog Mar 27, 2008 20:18:27	5 . . . --Ray.
#239 olddawg Mar 27, 2008 23:20:42	22,345 22,345 We just tied, and now ..... surpassed!!!!!!!!!!! :D :bounce: :pile: :invasion: -OldDawg
#240 Multizar Mar 27, 2008 23:30:01	This may seem like a dumb question but here it is anyway. Why does it matter if we catch up to Greyhawk on these forums? Just curious.......
#241 havard Mar 28, 2008 1:13:25	We just tied, and now ..... surpassed!!!!!!!!!!! :D :bounce: :pile: :invasion: - HUZZAH!!! Havard
#242 havard Mar 28, 2008 1:17:50	This may seem like a dumb question but here it is anyway. Why does it matter if we catch up to Greyhawk on these forums? Just curious....... Fair question! It doesn't really have anything to do with Greyhawk. I started the original "Catch up with Ravenloft" thread a few years ago. The main idea then was to stimulate the activity here. It is wonderful what a little competition can do. I also think it helps add to the sense of community on these boards. We have definately come a long way since the Ravenloft thread. Greyhawk seeed like a near impossible benchmark back then... BTW: Many people here are fans of Greyhawk, so IMHO it should in no way be seen as an attack on that setting or its fans. In fact, we should now be focusing on Dragonlance... Once again..Huzzah! Havard
#243 wilhelm_ Mar 28, 2008 19:40:14	Yay, we finally made it ;)
#244 Cthulhudrew Mar 29, 2008 15:51:35	Hoowah! We did it! We're number 3! We're number 3!
#245 havard Mar 29, 2008 18:18:38	This is no time to sit back and relax however, GH is still right behind us. Now we have to make sure they don't take back their old position... ;) Havard
#246 maddog Mar 29, 2008 19:09:42	How many gears does this baby have? Put your foot on the gas, Havard! And everyone else; all pom-poms must stay inside the windows at all times! :D --Ray.
#247 Hugin Mar 31, 2008 8:45:47	WOW I never would've imagined this four years ago! *chanting with Andrew* We're number 3! We're number 3!