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| #1forseAug 08, 2008 19:24:45 | I'm considering making a setting of my own. I was planning on getting the new forgotten realms books, but seeing how most of what I liked in the Realms has been erased, I scratched that and decided to do something of my own. What I am wondering is if the two sides of a planet are identical as far as climate and temperature goes. Beneath and above the equator, that is. Basically, I am thinking about starting to describe a setting where north means warm and south means cold. But is this true to how things work in the real world? I know it's fantasy, so I can do things however I want, I was just wondering. So, in short, is there any difference between living a certain distance south of the equator and that same distance north of it? And could I make use of the plant and wildlife typically found north of the equator, at the other side of the equator? |
| #2splargAug 08, 2008 21:50:42 | The further from the equator the more extreme the changes in season, though weather patterns are also affected by the size of land mass, small islands like New Zealand have the sea to act as a temperature regulating force whereas larger countries like Russia have more extreme winters and summers, New Zealand does have rather hot summers and snow in the south but it is fairly mild compared to other countries with greater landmass. The best way to describe it is that the northern hemisphere of your world is always the closest to the sun no matter the time of year keeping it in perpetual summer, perhaps the axial tilt is also greater on this world so that the north pole is a temperate zone rather than an ice enclosed landmass. I'm not an expert but I believe what I have written is correct. |
| #3forseAug 09, 2008 1:15:39 | Hmm, I think you misunderstood me a little. Maybe I wasn't very clear. What I meant was, if a world with the same relationship to the sun as our planet has, would the climate be the exact same on both sides of the equator? Ignoring stuff like landmass, proximity to the sea etc. |
| #4Darth_SyntaxAug 09, 2008 1:31:07 | Assuming an earth-like planet and ignoring terrain features, currents, and other things caused by the arrangement of landmasses (as you have indicated) the climate would be essentially the same at both 42°N and 42°S (and all other corresponding latitudes) as light levels would be the same, and so on. Even the elliptical nature of the orbit would have only a fairly minor effects on climate overall. As for the question about creatures from the "north" of earth living in the "south" of planet X, there should be no problem, provided that the environment is conducive to these creatures. If your southern landmasses are mostly composed of tiny islands, there is little chance of huge herds of bison sweeping majestically across the landscape, but if there are large swaths of grassland, then bison should be fine. |
| #5pschirfAug 09, 2008 1:32:14 | Why make a planet at all? It's fantasy, after all... My setting is flat. Water falls off the edge and is caught in a mammoth cup held by a Titan. The sun is a burning boat, and the moon a bowl, refilled from the cup... which another titan passed over the land to refill the clouds. North is colder, south is warmer... and if you dig too deep you'll fall through and end up on the back of the Titan who is holding it all up... |
| #6splargAug 09, 2008 3:21:35 | Why make a planet at all? It's fantasy, after all... That setting sounds ridiculously interesting. ![]() |
| #7degausserAug 09, 2008 6:08:43 | Okay, I'm no expert on geo-thermal physics, but, from my understanding, here is how the earth works. It, obviously, revolves around the sun, but it's a 100% circular orbit, and the Earth 'wobbles' (tilts on its 'x' axis) as well, so that you get changes depending on what part of the globe your on. Thus the world is not 100% semietrical. In addition, it's not just the sun that effects the weather. If , below the equator, you had a tectonically unstable area and multiple volcanoes, then, badda bing badda boom, the weather is going to be hot there, because the gas vents and lava eruptions are going to be throwing up so much heat. Additonally, air and water currents will change climate dramatically. For example, I live in Japan. Now, Japan is along the same lines as Canada, but it almost never snows down here on Honshu (the main island) because of the prevailing winds, meaning that you can basically say whatever you want, and it's not terribly beyond the realm of reason. Now, that being said, why do you want to make an entire planet. Just set your game on an island (or a contanant) and have the north cold, or hot, and the south reversed. No need to make an entire planet. Remember, this is DnD and the thought of traveling 200 miles in this setting is akin to going to the moon nowadays. |
| #8yellowdingoAug 09, 2008 8:32:56 | Hmm, I think you misunderstood me a little. Maybe I wasn't very clear. What I meant was, if a world with the same relationship to the sun as our planet has, would the climate be the exact same on both sides of the equator? Ignoring stuff like landmass, proximity to the sea etc. It out of phase for starters...by about half a year. The problem is that landmass, coastal orientation, is always a factor. If you want to apply the nasty little secrets of String Theory, the otherside of the world is different because the experiences of the People who live there are different. Maybe they choped down all the forest and its a continent sized desert. May be The Vorlon God Bujuu the Bucket-headed fell from the Heavens and now there is a molten sea of glass where he impacted. |
| #9trobonAug 09, 2008 15:12:17 | Ignoring all things about landmass, coasts, etc you would have a perfectly symmetrical climate (Although winter and summer would happen at different times.) However, with all of the complicated climate science that would be involved in thinking about a specific area and climate I would just say go with whatever works best for your game. Science is the realm of our world and should never be over done in an RPG because its always more energy than its worth. Author's Note: However, science in our world is awesome only surpassed my mathematics. |
| #10Book5Aug 09, 2008 18:38:59 | Heh - DragonLance was south=cold too! |
| #11araesAug 18, 2008 19:50:58 | It, obviously, revolves around the sun, but it's a 100% circular orbit This is not perfectly accurate. There is a slight eccentricity to the Earth's orbit. The effect of eccentricity in the orbit is that it changes the length of seasons depending on how drastic the eccentricity is. Earth is not very (0.0167, w/ 0 = perfect circle) This is also slightly affected by how symmetric the orbit is about the larger body. In addition, the orbit can precess, IE, the point in a year where the orbit is closest to the larger body can shift through the year. For example, on the Earth we follow one full precession every 10000 years, but it could happen faster or slower. All this commentary assumes a single star of much larger mass than your planet. (On that topic, a binary star system might be an interesting, if complex world to model.) As others have mentioned, assuming perfect symmetry, and at least some axial tilt, you have equal seasons, equal climates, and they occur out of phase by half a year. You can also modify the axial tilt of the planet. This is the angle that the central axis of the planet maintains as it rotates around the larger body. This angle in space remains constant as the planet moves around the body. Increasing or decreasing the angle changes how strong the seasons are on the planet. Ex: A planet with an axis point at, or nearly at the larger body would experience extremely harsh summers and winters, while one with almost no tilt would have almost imperceptible seasons. In addition to these considerations, you can also note wind patterns in the Earth. There are two bands of winds for the north and south, which rotate in opposite directions, and are separated by the tropics in the center. Like the seasons, their strengths are also affected by axial tilt, and the eccentricity of the orbit. General rules of thumb for the Earth.
Beyond these, you would need to start really reading up on Climate and Plate Tectonics to get an accurate grasp of how landmasses form, and their effects on weather and climate patterns. Anyhow, hope that answers the question. |