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Bear shifter version?

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#1
epochgames
Mar 19, 2009 9:26:38 I was just curious if anyone had made a bear version of the shifter yet, since PHB 2 left us with wolf or cat. For thematic versions, I considered a bear, and looking at how the racial encounter ability works, I thought it might require a new one of those, perhaps temp HP? I don't know what would balance well with what's already there, so thought I'd turn to the experts.
#2
lord_herman_02
Mar 19, 2009 10:03:47 I was just thinking about the same thing. How about this?

BEAR-TYPE SHIFTER (needs a better name)
Ability Scores: +2 Constitution, +2 Wisdom
Skill Bonuses: +2 Athletics, +2 Endurance

Bear Shifting
Effect: Until the end of your encounter, you gain 5 temporary hit points. In addition, while you are bloodied, you gain resist 2 to all damage.
Level 11: 10 temporary hit points, resist 4 to all damage.
Level 21: 15 temporary hit points, resist 6 to all damage.

I have no idea if this is balanced, though.
#3
epochgames
Mar 19, 2009 10:07:32 It seems good to me, and was along the lines of what I was thinking. I was pretty sure 5 temp HP wasn't enough to make it balanced, but the added resist seems to make it so. Does Iron Fur or Iron Hide shifter work?
#4
rikiji
Mar 19, 2009 10:11:25 The power needs to have an ongoing effect that lasts until the end of the encounter - there's at least one shifter feat that plays on the duration, and it's not impossible there may be more in the future.

Bears - at least in the 4E Primal sense - are all about defensive abilities, so I'd play on that theme. Temp hit points aren't a bad idea, so maybe ...

Greatpaw Shifters
Ability Scores: +2 Constitution, +2 Wisdom
Skill Bonuses: +2 Endurance, +2 (Intimidate?)

Greatpaw Shifting
Encounter
Minor Action
Personal
Requirement: You must be bloodied.
Effect: Until the end of the encounter you gain a +1 bonus to Fortitude. In addition, whenever you are hit by a melee or close attack you gain 2 temporary hitpoints after resolving damage.
Level 11: 4 temporary hitpoints
Level 21: 6 temporary hitpoints

That sort of makes them into mini battleragers,
#5
epochgames
Mar 19, 2009 10:24:13 Wow....he comes up with a better name and it looks like a better power. It seems to fit together nicely, IMO.
#6
SteelMirror
Mar 19, 2009 17:24:08 Maybe have it gain the temp hp if the shifter hits a target in melee, rather than being hit in melee.
#7
volcanon2
Mar 19, 2009 20:29:34 You gain +15 on searching for berries and can run naked through the forest at impressive speeds.
#8
pigknight
Mar 19, 2009 20:54:22
You gain +15 on searching for berries and can run naked through the forest at impressive speeds.

I like this.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 epochgames Mar 19, 2009 9:26:38	I was just curious if anyone had made a bear version of the shifter yet, since PHB 2 left us with wolf or cat. For thematic versions, I considered a bear, and looking at how the racial encounter ability works, I thought it might require a new one of those, perhaps temp HP? I don't know what would balance well with what's already there, so thought I'd turn to the experts.
#2 lord_herman_02 Mar 19, 2009 10:03:47	I was just thinking about the same thing. How about this? BEAR-TYPE SHIFTER (needs a better name) Ability Scores: +2 Constitution, +2 Wisdom Skill Bonuses: +2 Athletics, +2 Endurance Bear Shifting Effect: Until the end of your encounter, you gain 5 temporary hit points. In addition, while you are bloodied, you gain resist 2 to all damage. Level 11: 10 temporary hit points, resist 4 to all damage. Level 21: 15 temporary hit points, resist 6 to all damage. I have no idea if this is balanced, though.
#3 epochgames Mar 19, 2009 10:07:32	It seems good to me, and was along the lines of what I was thinking. I was pretty sure 5 temp HP wasn't enough to make it balanced, but the added resist seems to make it so. Does Iron Fur or Iron Hide shifter work?
#4 rikiji Mar 19, 2009 10:11:25	The power needs to have an ongoing effect that lasts until the end of the encounter - there's at least one shifter feat that plays on the duration, and it's not impossible there may be more in the future. Bears - at least in the 4E Primal sense - are all about defensive abilities, so I'd play on that theme. Temp hit points aren't a bad idea, so maybe ... Greatpaw Shifters Ability Scores: +2 Constitution, +2 Wisdom Skill Bonuses: +2 Endurance, +2 (Intimidate?) Greatpaw Shifting Encounter Minor Action Personal Requirement: You must be bloodied. Effect: Until the end of the encounter you gain a +1 bonus to Fortitude. In addition, whenever you are hit by a melee or close attack you gain 2 temporary hitpoints after resolving damage. Level 11: 4 temporary hitpoints Level 21: 6 temporary hitpoints That sort of makes them into mini battleragers,
#5 epochgames Mar 19, 2009 10:24:13	Wow....he comes up with a better name and it looks like a better power. It seems to fit together nicely, IMO.
#6 SteelMirror Mar 19, 2009 17:24:08	Maybe have it gain the temp hp if the shifter hits a target in melee, rather than being hit in melee.
#7 volcanon2 Mar 19, 2009 20:29:34	You gain +15 on searching for berries and can run naked through the forest at impressive speeds.
#8 pigknight Mar 19, 2009 20:54:22	You gain +15 on searching for berries and can run naked through the forest at impressive speeds. I like this.