Beastmaster At-Wills (PEACH please)

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#1

bamms34

Jan 30, 2011 22:46:00
I play a beastmaster, and I my DM and I have tried a number of ways to get the beast more involved in combat encounters. Understanding that the ranger class already has multi-attacking powers, it is not beyond the realm of possibility that the BM shouldn't be able to take advantage of this. Taking inspiration from the Skirmishing Warlord's power suite, I want to playtest the following At-Will powers:

Synchronized Strike (Modified from the Ranger Level 1 Encounter Power)
Target: One Creature
Range: Melee Weapon (Beast 1)
Attack: Beast's Attack Bonus v. AC
Hit: 1(B) + Beast Str or Dex Mod Damage
Effect: You make a secondary attack against the target
Secondary Attack: Strength v. AC
Hit: 1(W) Damage

Increase to 2(B) and 2(W) Damage at 21st Level  

Fetch (Modified from the Warlord Level 1 Encounter Power Race the Arrow)
Prerequisite: You must be wielding a thrown weapon
Target: One Creature
Range: Ranged Weapon
Attack: Strength v. AC
Hit: 1(W) Damage
Effect: Your Beast companion charges the target or makes a MBA against the target.

Increase to 2(W) damage at 21st Level 


Any suggestions? 
#2

Sabelkatten

Jan 31, 2011 0:31:12
I think the damage may be a little high... You're effectively doing 2(W)+DEX/STR against the target, when even Twin Strike only gets you 2(W).

Of course Beast and Thrown weapon damage is a little less impressive, but it still looks very high.
#3

Qube

Jan 31, 2011 4:57:51
I think the damage may be a little high... You're effectively doing 2(W)+DEX/STR against the target, when even Twin Strike only gets you 2(W).

Of course Beast and Thrown weapon damage is a little less impressive, but it still looks very high.

agreed

#4

bamms34

Jan 31, 2011 9:40:16
I think the damage may be a little high... You're effectively doing 2(W)+DEX/STR against the target, when even Twin Strike only gets you 2(W).

Of course Beast and Thrown weapon damage is a little less impressive, but it still looks very high.




Thanks, and point taken. Problem I had was the Beast doesn't benefit from magic items, so adding the modifier damage was to help it scale at higher levels. 
#5

Sabelkatten

Jan 31, 2011 15:00:06
I think the damage may be a little high... You're effectively doing 2(W)+DEX/STR against the target, when even Twin Strike only gets you 2(W).

Of course Beast and Thrown weapon damage is a little less impressive, but it still looks very high.




Thanks, and point taken. Problem I had was the Beast doesn't benefit from magic items, so adding the modifier damage was to help it scale at higher levels. 



Yeah, I was thinking the same thing... But full bonus does get a bit to much.

I think the second one can be workable, throwing weapons doesn't cause that much damage and the beast is usually less impressive than the character's attacks.

On the first one how about this: Start with the Ranger's attack ( 1(W) damage ), then the beast's attack ( 1(B) damage ). If both hit, then let the beast add STR/DEX to the damage.
 
That lets it scale to some degree, without (I think) getting out of hand.
#6

bamms34

Jan 31, 2011 15:55:56
I thought about the option of having the Beast attack be a "Hit" effect, with some bonus to the dmg roll. There is an inherent issue with the thrown weapon. Just take a Dwarven Thrower Ex. Axe, and its a scary site. I thought to balance that power, I would make it like Throw and Stab, where you had to be weilding both a thrown and a melee.