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Diclonius [PEACH: Race, two paragon paths, epic destiny, and feats]

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#42
Eisenritter
Feb 03, 2010 15:42:49 Con primary, Cha or Wis secondary. And I forgot about the Ardent, so thanks for reminding me on that one. ^_^;;
#43
Eisenritter
Apr 02, 2010 14:33:29 Okay. Now that I've had time to compare the current diclonius writeup and its (somewhat limited) usefulness as a Psionicist, 'tis time for more editing! The purpose of which! Is to color these beasties as more useful to the three non-Monk Psionic classes!

As of now, I've come up with a few possibilities:

-Change ability score bonuses to Con, with Int or Cha. This allows diclonii to excel at either Psion build (Mariko), as well as the Quick Battlemind (Lucy) or the Euphoric Ardent (Nana). The fact that they would want to be Kineticist Psions more than Telepaths would be represented in feats.

-Multiclass Silpelit feats become tied to a Psionic base class. As we all know, diclonii focus almost exclusively on their vectors in place of weaponry. To that end, a psionic focus should be achieved here, perhaps?

-Liebensborn paragon path should become more focused. Right now, it's trying to be multiple things at once and thus failing at all of them. So, we'll narrow it down. With any luck, we can pare it down to a +Striker path.

-A racial paragon path for diclonii who aren't psionicists. Fairly obvious, I think. Liebensborn should still be linked to the multiclass feats, so this for one who doesn't want to have to be Psionic in order to be a paragon.

-Horned Hellion epic destiny should be pared closer to psionics? This one I'm not so sure of. Right now, I'm thinking we should deal with the rest first, and this one should follow suit?

-Reintroduction of the "vector" keyword? Again, not so sure of this. This one, I'm probably the least fond of, if only because it just slaps out a new keyword out of the blue.
#44
Tectorman
Feb 20, 2011 3:35:47 /casts thread necromancy/

Don't know if you still keep up with tweaking this race or if you're done, but if you've added anything since the PHB3, PsiP, DSCS, and/or Essentials came out, I'd like to see them.

I also need to suggest one tweak.

The racial power works with half the ability scores but not with the other half. So if a Diclonius character were a member of a class that could ill-afford to devote regular stat-increases to at least one of the ability scores that does work with the racial power, that racial power would become progressively less and less useful until you reach level 30 and you only use the racial power hoping for a nat 20.

At the very least, there should be a feat like the Powerful Breath feat that Dragonborn get that allows the Diclonius to use any ability score of their choosing as the attack stat for the racial power.

Ideally, the racial power should be rewritten "Primary ability modifier +3 vs. Defense (inc to +6 at Paragon, +9 at Epic).
#45
Eisenritter
Feb 20, 2011 17:52:40 I haven't been, actually. But mostly because I've been torn between just continuing on with this setup or just starting from scratch, not to mention preparing for another archive binge.

But yeah, I'll be getting back to it at some point. So long as I'm not the only one interested, I've got a reason to keep up with it.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#42 Eisenritter Feb 03, 2010 15:42:49	Con primary, Cha or Wis secondary. And I forgot about the Ardent, so thanks for reminding me on that one. ^_^;;
#43 Eisenritter Apr 02, 2010 14:33:29	Okay. Now that I've had time to compare the current diclonius writeup and its (somewhat limited) usefulness as a Psionicist, 'tis time for more editing! The purpose of which! Is to color these beasties as more useful to the three non-Monk Psionic classes! As of now, I've come up with a few possibilities: -Change ability score bonuses to Con, with Int or Cha. This allows diclonii to excel at either Psion build (Mariko), as well as the Quick Battlemind (Lucy) or the Euphoric Ardent (Nana). The fact that they would want to be Kineticist Psions more than Telepaths would be represented in feats. -Multiclass Silpelit feats become tied to a Psionic base class. As we all know, diclonii focus almost exclusively on their vectors in place of weaponry. To that end, a psionic focus should be achieved here, perhaps? -Liebensborn paragon path should become more focused. Right now, it's trying to be multiple things at once and thus failing at all of them. So, we'll narrow it down. With any luck, we can pare it down to a +Striker path. -A racial paragon path for diclonii who aren't psionicists. Fairly obvious, I think. Liebensborn should still be linked to the multiclass feats, so this for one who doesn't want to have to be Psionic in order to be a paragon. -Horned Hellion epic destiny should be pared closer to psionics? This one I'm not so sure of. Right now, I'm thinking we should deal with the rest first, and this one should follow suit? -Reintroduction of the "vector" keyword? Again, not so sure of this. This one, I'm probably the least fond of, if only because it just slaps out a new keyword out of the blue.
#44 Tectorman Feb 20, 2011 3:35:47	/casts thread necromancy/ Don't know if you still keep up with tweaking this race or if you're done, but if you've added anything since the PHB3, PsiP, DSCS, and/or Essentials came out, I'd like to see them. I also need to suggest one tweak. The racial power works with half the ability scores but not with the other half. So if a Diclonius character were a member of a class that could ill-afford to devote regular stat-increases to at least one of the ability scores that does work with the racial power, that racial power would become progressively less and less useful until you reach level 30 and you only use the racial power hoping for a nat 20. At the very least, there should be a feat like the Powerful Breath feat that Dragonborn get that allows the Diclonius to use any ability score of their choosing as the attack stat for the racial power. Ideally, the racial power should be rewritten "Primary ability modifier +3 vs. Defense (inc to +6 at Paragon, +9 at Epic).
#45 Eisenritter Feb 20, 2011 17:52:40	I haven't been, actually. But mostly because I've been torn between just continuing on with this setup or just starting from scratch, not to mention preparing for another archive binge. But yeah, I'll be getting back to it at some point. So long as I'm not the only one interested, I've got a reason to keep up with it.