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#1 BuddhaKai Jun 01, 2015 19:54:23	So, some **** went down recently in my home game, 5e if it matters, but first some history-   I had two High-Elf PCs, brothers- twins in fact- who were helping the rest of the party find a way to get the Elve's attention regaurding a large force of undead and hobgoblins being led by a Dracolich, of which was currently on its way to destroy the Elve's home.   High Elves in my setting come from a single city which floats high above the world, between the prime material and the Feywild- it exists in both planes simultaneously.  After a war that happened long ago, they lifted their city, and a large chunk of surrounding forest and mountain, into the air to get away from the trouble of mortal civilizations.  To get to this city, one has to traverse a Fey crossing, a gateway on the prime material that is linked to the city.  There are many such portals on the prime material, and only one exists in the city.  Each portal on the prime material is heavily guarded and hidden by the Wood Elves; if it comes down to it, a Wood Elf tribe would rather destroy their own portal rather than let it fall into enemy hands.   If any Elf speaks of the location, or any information on how to gain access to such a portal, given to any NON Elf is the highest treason- penalty of immediate death, your name stricken from your family records, and complete dissowning of your own race; my players knew this at character creation.   One of my Elven PCs let this information slip, in-game, in a populated tavern, to the whole party.  We took an immediate 5 minute break to talk it over.  Everyone decided that what happened was a HUGE deal that needed to be dealt with, now.  The Elf needed to die, he commited the one sin all Elves should never commit; His brother should drag him back to the Elven city and turn him in; His brother should kill the whole party and everyone in the tavern because they overheard; His brother should kill him then and there, execute the traitor on the spot.   We decided the best course of action was for the traitor's brother to execute him then and there.  So, at the tavern table, the traitor's brother whips out his Bow, knocks an arrow, and fires-hitting the traiter in the throat.  The PC who spilled the beans had agreed earlier, so he walks out of the tavern, and pushes the arrow through his throat, finishing the job and accepting his error.   The party was spared, after all, with no party, there's no game, but there were still the tavern patrons to deal with; one of them heard everything, but he ran out of the tavern before the party could react, so the remaining Elf PC gave off a prayer to the Fey "keep this person from spreading the word around that he knows the location of a Fey crossing."  The Fey hears, and this brings me to my question:   I don't know jack about the Fey courts, or how the Feywild works, outside of reading the Eladrin page from the 4e PHB.  The Fey, basically, helped the player character hide a body, and told the PC that he owes them a favor.  I like to think of it as the PC is now in debt with the mob, but I don't know how big a favor he owes.  This is where you lovely, LOVELY people come in.  I need a hand.  What type of favore could the Fey Council ask of this PC for getting rid of his dirty laundry?
#2 Imaculata Jun 17, 2015 2:44:54	The fey are usually completely neutral. They do not understand the morals of men, and do what they like.   What the fey do with the body, is up to them. Maybe they don't kill the man, but do other things to him. Maybe it comes back to haunt them. Maybe the fey demand that the players do the same for them in return?
#3 tristantak Jun 16, 2015 21:36:31	Imaculata wrote:
#4 rampant Jun 17, 2015 20:04:11	Being in debt to the fey is sort of like having a debt to the mob, if every member was the freaking Joker, or at least Harley Quin.
#5 Griffin2099 Jun 18, 2015 17:20:31	In my games Fey use Debts and Favors as a type of currency. I'd expect the Fey to keep hold of the favor for as long as possible, obviously still dangling it over their heads if he could. If you're using the Fomori then a raid on a castle to steal an artifact of the Fey enemies could work, or steal back the wepon of a slain Fey hero. I'm using dreams in my game atm so the idea of finding the "Dreaming God/Giant/King" and making sure he remains asleep works for me. This doesn't sound like a particulary powerful Fey though, so maybe something smaller. Possibly even working it so that someone even more powerful than the PC's falls into the Fey beings debt?
#6 rampant Jun 18, 2015 19:54:21	Alternatively the small fey could sell the debt to a big fey.
#7 BuddhaKai Jul 03, 2015 15:33:22	Thanks for all the input.  I know it's been a while sence I posted, but I didn't forget about this thread.   I liked the idea of treating the Fey as a sort of Mob.  That was kind of what I was thinking.  The "I do a favor for you, you do a favor for me" aspect got stuck in my head.   I haven't come up with anything yet.  The game has been going for a while now and the party has gained a few levels, so maybe that opens a few more doors as to what I could do?  I don't know.   I was thinking of doing something along the lines of killing a monster from the fey that got loose, or helping a fey knight get to a certain destination, all the while never telling the party WHY they were taking him there.  Maybe he does something unrelated to the game as a whole, or maybe he does something that the party needs to fix later on....I don't know right now.   I'm not sure how much of an impact I want this to have on the game, I think that's my main worry right now.  If anything, I'd like the debt to be paid back in a game or two, not having to take up a larger portion of the campaign.
#8 Imaculata Jul 04, 2015 2:31:43	I'd play around with the amoral nature of the fey. Maybe one of the fey desperately wants to see a friend again, whom she met on the edge of a village. This friend happens to be a human child, and if the players take the child to her, the child will forget her own family, and never want to leave. This raises some moral issues, because of course the family will be desperately searching for their child. Fey don't really think about these sorts of things, or care for a griefing family. All they care about is their own fun and games.
#9 BuddhaKai Jul 08, 2015 22:43:28	Thanks for that Imaculata, I really like that idea, and I think I'll use it.  It's different enough from anything the party may expect, and sounds hella interesting.