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| #1Neon_Red_PhoenixOct 05, 2010 9:03:24 | Hello. I'm Neon. *waves* I'm kind of a newb, only been playing D&D for about two years now, and only 4E and some D20 Modern. At some point in the somewhat(?) near future I am going to be DMing for some friends. First time attempting it for anybody besides my sister and husband that one time over a year ago. I'm curious about how much detail I should put into it, how much I should prepare for. I created a map, and have a very rough description of each city/town, but I'm not sure how in-depth I should go and how much I should just "wing" and make up. I only really have a handful of NPC's in mind, but foremost is a crazy Warforged named Mirr that has hooks along its chin and forehead so it can wear the faces of its victims. I have a basic history, where 150 years ago Torog, the King that Crawls, smote the southern area of Acadia, causing a giant Hole into the underdark to be created. After the Collapse, Bugbears and Hobgoblins worked with the other humanoid races of the world to create the forts to keep the creatures of the underdark at bay. So, I will allow those two monster races as PC races, but any other will have to have a good reason. Depending on what backstories the players give me, I'll probably have them start out in Fallcrest (inside joke with the group. "All campaigns start in Fallcrest. It's the one link between all dimensions." Or something like that. )Anybody have any good advice? Anything I should elaborate on? I would be eternally grateful for pretty much anything. I don't want to make preparing for this game too stressful, and I'm not even sure if I'll be able to succeed in the first session enough to make the group want to play more of it. I hope I'm not being annoying about this. ![]() The map of the single continent I've made is here: Map of Acadia |
| #2jetshieldOct 05, 2010 12:22:13 | I'll be asking a lot of questions. I don't intend for you to answer them here, just that you answer them for yourself. |
| #3MWSAberOct 05, 2010 14:44:02 | In the Immortal Words of Tom Lehrer: Plagiarise, let nothing evade your eyes, plagiarise Read, steal, re-skin etc anything you can to make your buck (time) go farther. Keep it simple and internally consistent. |
| #4Neon_Red_PhoenixOct 06, 2010 7:10:09 | Thank you for your responses, and I know I don't have to write all of this, but it's helping me to really think it out and come up with some of it now. I like your advice MWSAber.
If my group indeed isn't familiar with the series at all, I'm going to try to make it my biggest inspiration in regard to important NPC's. |
| #5angorathOct 06, 2010 16:11:45 | How much do people know about the rest of the world (eg, other continents, the Underdark)? Is there trade with other continents? I always like to think about how a place fits in with the larger world, and that tells me how much work I need to do on the rest of the world. It could be that the nearest other continent is vaguely known to exist 2000 miles to the west, and a few ships arrive at Newhaven every year. In that case, I would probaly just think about the kinds of trade goods and people who arrive from this place, and leave the rest open for the future. |
| #6Neon_Red_PhoenixOct 06, 2010 17:26:16 | Since I'm not sure how long this campaign will last for, so I've left the rest of the world open ended for the most part. If I need to a canon reason for the players, I'd probably come up with something along the lines of when the Collapse happened the rest of the world took it as a bad omen and cut off communication with them. I'm not sure though. |
| #7angorathOct 07, 2010 2:19:12 | That's a good thing about leaving it open-ended, you can come up with a reason that fits later develoments in the campaign. Are you interested in world building, or are you looking more at doing just what is needed to support the game? I enjoy world building in its own right, so I usually do more than the players would ever see, but different fun for different people. |
| #8gaiusbaltarOct 07, 2010 7:44:59 |
This kinda tickles me. My own campaign setting is mostly a re-skinning of world history, while the magic and religion, and general cosmogony, is taken almost verbatim from the books by Carlos Castaneda. The Eagle is virtually cut and pasted from the Toltec tradition, I've just reinvented it as a Catholic church-style establishment state religion. No one in my group reads Castaneda, I'm curious to see how many on this board are familiar with it, so I justify it that I'm expanding their horizons.For me, I just develop as much of the world as I possibly can. I think about it in my spare time constantly. I think about it at work, at home, when my wife is talking to me... constantly. The thing is, I'm only going to present it to the group as it becomes relevent. They get the starting city, and enough history to explain the first story arch. But I keep everything on hand so that I can introduce more as it becomes relevent, and so the PCs have the freedom to go anywhere without having to make it up on the fly. On a side note, how did you make that map? Is there a program available for download? It's perfect, and I could really use one like that. I think you have a good thing going there. Let us know how it goes. About neighboring continents. It's a great way to introduce things that don't quite fit in your homeland, like Shamanism/Mysticism exotic races, depending on how your homeworld is designed. |
| #9MWSAberOct 07, 2010 11:56:28 | One way to deal with all of the "external" details is to let your players tell you waht they are. Wehre are the from? How did they get here? Does "A" know "B" and why or why not? |
| #10therion666Oct 13, 2010 16:22:20 | Start small, the Nentir Vale, and let the Campaign outgrow it when you feel ready to expand into your homebrew area's. Maybe create some interesting long term campaign NPC's both allies and enemies. You could even offer the creation of area's to any of your players who are interested in getting involved. Apparently the world of Greyhawk was created this way, with the players taking the creation of area's each. Saves you doing all the work. |
| #11mathius78Oct 16, 2010 23:47:36 | Considering the giant hole in the ground it would be very easy to adapt any of the chaps scar material. Also remember that for the most part the players will only care about the things right in front of them. You need to know what is going on behind the scenes so you can give a good answer but be willing to change the anything the players have not yet seen to make a more interesting story. Focus you design efforts on what you love to do and steal the rest. WRITE DOWN EVERYTHING. When you players ask you the name of local black marketer it is nice if you remember it the next week. If the players ask you is there a ____________ say yes unless there is a good reason to say no. Then when you say no they will want fix it. Map out a campaign arc with a beginning and end fill in the middle as you go. If you want re-use a villain make sure he has way to deal with being killed or the that the players have really good reason to let him live, do not count on escape plan. Be flexible when your players derail your plot, they will. If they really go off the rails stop the session and give yourself time to think. Encourage a long term for each character and try to put the advancement of at least one of them into each adventure. Listen to players after and between sessions, when you hear things like "I bet ___________ is behind this." or "I hope we _____" make it happen. Players love "predicting" plot. Sorry for the ramblings hope they help. Nice map by the way, let you players see, maps make players believe in the world. Mathius |
| #12calmOct 18, 2010 17:32:44 | Don't overdo the prep. Find out what the players are interested in and play up that aspect. Perhaps before game one, ask each player to give you a mystery about their character's origins and how he or she knows one other character. Those quick blurbs can inform a lot of adventuring. Maybe because so and so is an orphan, a note they receive from their long lost "father" telling them to come to a nearby village makes sense. Is it dear old dad, or an old enemy using that knowledge against the character? Maybe somebody else is running from the law and that plays into having a bounty hunter on their tail. Etc. Etc. |
| #13Shadow_WoodOct 29, 2010 11:10:10 | I like your idea. I'm also in the process of creating a future story arc involving Torog so I'm interested in your ideas here. I want mine to be more subtle than the "hole" idea - at least at the beginning, but I really like the concept and I could see integrating something like this later on in the story arc. I would be curious how you intend to get the players involved initially. One issue I'm having is trying to subtley get them interested and involved with some minor bad guys at the outset. I may try and use the torture den suggested story arcs as laid out in Underdark - but still feeling around for something fresh. Good luck and keep us posted on this interesting concept you have going here, I'm interested to see where it goes. Rob |
| #14saethoneOct 31, 2010 20:02:59 | Don't try to think too long term. Any plans you have for paragon/epic are going to be totally different by the time the characters get there. Along the same lines, you don't have to think about what NPCs will be important at that time. Introduce an NPC every game or so, and as your players interact with them, see who they like. See whats interesting at the table, and let that NPC grow with the party. Its much more rewarding that way. |
| #15islandownerNov 01, 2010 9:01:29 | have you checked out Leafar's thread? the one where you vote to create a world? He uses really clear steps that help you plant a seed for every possible detail to grow out of. it helped me a lot creating gizuria, my own homebrew world. Make sure not to forget the connection between each person and the general beliefs and positions of such persons in the society you make. If everyone hates goblins exept if the goblins are very religious, then the goblins you will find in cities will either be an outcast or a religious goblin. (plain logic that will make it a very comprehensible world for the PC.) Also make sure that if you suspect combat may come, be sure to have a room with lots of fun attributes to use. I learned that if players have the freedom and opportunity to do something they think you don't expect them to do makes the combat very exciting for them. That hole idea is awesome. Arg didn't see the pun before I made it :p |