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#1 glak2 Jun 24, 2008 2:49:56	Although this is for my Dark Sun conversion this thread is more about balance than flavor so I'm putting it here where experienced house rules people can give me feedback. In Dark Sun clerics have a pact with one of the four elements. Dark Sun clerics only have the slightest of healing ability, so the leader role is not suitable. Thus I have made this class more of a Striker class with some minor healing powers. Making four classes would be too hard (since I also have to make a Druid, a Psychic Warrior, and a Psion) and so I have taken a Warlockish approach. Each At-Will is suitable for three of the elements, each Encounter and Daily works for two. Unlike with the Warlock, you have to pick within your pact. Earth and Water are associated with Con, Air and Fire with Dex. Though actually I might switch the scores around for water and fire, so that the racial preferences line up with the fluff. Well without further ado, here is the class: CLASS TRAITS Role: Striker. Most of your attacks focus on dealing significant foes at a short range. Many of your powers provide you with mobility. Some of your powers pull you towards the leader and controller roles. Power Source: Elemental. You bargain for your powers with powerful elemental lords. Your initiation into being a cleric sealed your allegiance to them. Key Abilities: Wisdom, Constitution, Dexterity Armor Proficiencies: Cloth, Leather, Hide Weapon Proficiencies: Simple melee, simple ranged Bonus to Defense: +2 Will Hit Points at 1st Level: 12 + Constitution score Hit Points per Level Gained: 5 Healing Surges per Day: 6 + Constitution modifier Trained Skills: Religion. From the class skills list below, choose three more trained skills at 1st level. Class Skills: Arcana (Int), Diplomacy (Cha), Heal (Wis), History (Int), Insight (Wis), Religion (int) Class Features: Channel Divinity, Ritual Casting, Elemental Pact, Implement CLERIC CLASS FEATURES Channel Divinity: Turn undead, Divine Fortune Ritual Casting: Gentle repose and one other Elemental Pact: Choose an element. You may only use powers that match your pact. Combination Casting: If you are adjacent to an allied cleric with a different Elemental Pact as a minor action you can share your pact with him. Until the end of his next turn when he uses a Prayer he may use both his and your Pact to determine the effects of his Prayers. (I'm going to write this up as a power probably, maybe make it only once per encounter too) Implement: Holy symbol CLERIC OVERVIEW Characteristics: Unlike the clerics of other worlds, Athasian clerics are poor healers. Your powers lie more in combat. Depending on your element you will find that your role varies quite a bit. Religion: Clerics worship their elements and draw power from their elemental lords. These lords are epic level monsters, not gods, and do not demand worship. Clerics generally get along with clerics of other elements, though fire clerics are often held in suspicion. Races: Halflings and Dwarves make the best clerics. Thri-Kreen and Humans also make excellent clerics. AT-WILL PRAYERS Reverent Strike Cleric(air/earth/fire) Attack 1 Your weapon becomes infused with the power of your element At-Will * Elemental, Weapon Standard Action Melee or Ranged weapon Target: One creature [b]Attack: Wis vs AC Hit: [W] damage Earth Pact: If you are using a stone, obsidian, or metal weapon, gain a bonus to the damage roll equal to your Con modifier Fire Pact: If you are using an obsidian or flaming weapon, gain a bonus to the damage roll equal to your Dex modifier Air Pact: If you are using a spear or a ranged weapon, gain a bonus to the damage roll equal to your Dex modifier Curse of the Cleric Cleric(air/earth/water) Attack 1 The ground fights his step, the wind turns his arrow, sweat does not cool him At-Will * Elemental, Implement Standard Action Ranged 10 Target: One creature Attack: Wis vs Will Hit: 1d6 + Wis damage Earth Pact: Until the end of your next turn the target treats all terrain as difficult Water Pact: Until the end of your next turn, if the target would be healed, reduce the number of hit points gained by your Con. Air Pact: Until the end of your next turn the target gets a penalty equal to your Dex bonus to his ranged attacks. Energy Bolt Cleric(air/fire/water) Attack 1 A bolt of energy shoots from your hand, damaging your enemy and invigorating your ally At-Will * Elemental, Implement Standard Action Ranged 5 Target: One creature Attack: Wis vs Ref Hit: 1d6 + Wis damage and one ally that you can see chooses either to gain temporary hit points equal to your modifier (Con for water, Dex for air or fire) + one-half of your level, or make a saving throw. Water Pact: the damage is cold damage Air Pact: the damage is lightning damage Fire Pact: the damage is fire damage Elemental Orb Cleric(earth/fire/water) Attack 1 You hurl a sphere of earth, magma, or water at your opponent At-Will * Elemental, Implement Standard Action Ranged 5 Target: One creature Attack: Wis vs Fort Hit: 1d8 + Wis damage Water Pact: the target is knocked prone Fire Pact: the damage is fire damage, and the target takes fire damage equal to your Con at the start of its next turn Earth Pact: the target takes a penalty to AC equal to your Con modifier until the end of your next turn LEVEL 1 ENCOUNTER PRAYERS Solar Ray Cleric Attack(air/fire) 1 The heat of the sun roasts your foe Encounter * Elemental, Implement Standard Action Ranged 10 Target: One creature Attack: Dex vs Ref Hit: 2d6 + Wis fire damage Fire: the target is blinded until the end of your next turn Air: the target is dazed (save ends) Flowing Dance Cleric Attack(air/water) 1 You are the stream across the scrub, the wind across the desert Encounter * Elemental, Weapon Standard Action Melee or Ranged weapon Target: One creature Attack: Wis vs AC Hit: 2[W] damage Effect: Shift 1 square before the attack and 1 square after Water Pact: If you are using a wooden or bone weapon, gain a bonus to the damage roll equal to your Con modifier. Air Pact: If you are using a spear or a ranged weapon, gain a bonus to the damage roll equal to your Dex modifier. Shard Spear Cleric Attack(earth/fire) 1 A jagged shard of Obsidian stabs deeply into your foe and smolders in his heart Encounter * Elemental, Implement Standard Action Ranged 5 Target: One creature Attack: Wis vs AC Hit: 2d8 + Wis damage Earth Pact: If you have combat advantage against the target, deal an additional 1d8 + Con damage Fire Pact: If the target is currently taking ongoing fire damage, the target takes that much fire damage (no save). Mud Fist Cleric Attack(earth/water) 1 You punch your foe with a fist a summoned mud, then use it to patch the wounds of yourself or your ally Encounter * Elemental, Implement Standard Action Close burst Target: One enemy and yourself or one ally in range Attack: Con vs AC Hit: 2d6 damage to the enemy. The ally can spend a healing surge. Earth Pact: Gain a bonus to the damage roll equal to your Con modifier. Water Pact: Grant a bonus to the healing surge equal to your Con modifier. LEVEL 1 DAILY PRAYERS Smoke Cleric Attack(air/fire) 1 You create a cloud of choking smoke Daily * Elemental, Implement, Zone Standard Action Area burst 1 within 5 squares Target: Each creature in the burst Attack: Wis vs Fort Hit: 1d6 + Wis damage Effect: The burst creates a zone of smoke that blocks line of sight until the end of your next turn. Creatures that enter the zone or start their turns there take 1d6 + Wis damage. Fire Pact: Creatures take additional initial and zone fire damage equal to 1d6 + Dex. Air Pact: As a move action you can move the zone a number of squares equal to your Dex. Boil Cleric Attack(fire/water) 1 You cause the water in your target to boil away, weakening his defenses Daily * Elemental, Implement Standard Action Ranged 10 Target: One creature Attack: Wis vs Will Hit: 3d8 + Wis damage Fire Pact: The target takes a penalty to his Ref equal to your Dex until the end of the encounter Water Pact: The target takes a penalty to his Fort equal to your Con until the end of the encounter Dust Dervish Cleric Attack(air/earth) 1 As you move, the dust swirls around you, protection you from attacks Daily * Elemental, Weapon Standard Action Melee weapon Target: One creature Attack: Move up to your speed. At any point during your move, you can make a Wis vs. AC attack with a melee weapon. Hit: [W] + Str damage Air Pact: If you are using a spear, gain a bonus to your defenses equal to your Dex until the end of your next turn. Earth Pact: If you are using a stone, obsidian, or metal weapon, gain a bonus to your defenses equal to your Con until the end of your next turn Eroding Onslaught Cleric Attack(earth/water) 1 You scour your foe with water and sand Encounter * Elemental, Implement Standard Action Ranged 5 Target: One creature Attack: Con vs. AC Hit: 3d8 + Con damage Earth Pact: The target is pushed 1 square and the square that he was on becomes difficult terrain Water Pact: The target is knocked prone LEVEL 2 UTILITY Scent of Blood Cleric Utility(air) 2 Subtle currents concentrate and guide scents to you Daily * Elemental Minor Action Personal Effect: Until the end of the encounter you know the location of all creatures within 20 squares of you, including those that have total concealment or are invisible. You know roughly what type is creature is and whether it is bloodied. Swim Through Stone Cleric Utility(earth) 2 You dive into the ground like it is water, and surface amidst your foes Encounter * Elemental, Teleportation Move Action Personal Effect: You can teleport 3 squares and all adjacent enemies grant combat advantage to you until the end of your current turn Flickering Flame Cleric Utility(fire) 2 You flicker erratically around the battlefield, enemies don't know what to expect Encounter * Elemental, Teleportation Immediate Interrupt Personal Trigger: You are missed by an enemy Effect: Teleport 1 square and that enemy grants you combat advantage until the end of your next turn. Obscuring Mist Cleric Utility(water) 2 The mist swirls around your ally, partially concealing him Daily * Elemental Standard Action Ranged 5 Target: You or one ally Effect: The target becomes lightly obscured (PHB 281) until the end of the encounter
#2 generalhenry Jun 24, 2008 3:27:48	powers should never use non key abilities to hit. AKA Reverent Strike should use Wis
#3 mplindustries Jun 24, 2008 3:45:43	Weakness, prone, and ongoing damage are all well beyond the scope of at-will powers. Consider a bonus to allied defense or a penalty to enemy attack instead of weakness. Try a short push instead of prone. The 5 ongoing damage should probably be changed to "If X, then deal extra damage equal to your Y modifier," like Holy Strike. What X and Y are, though, I have no idea. Just a cursory look to be honest.
#4 glak2 Jun 25, 2008 13:44:32	thanks, I've incorporated feedback from both of you in my changes. I've also included the Utility 2 powers. Each is aligned with a single element, so unfortunately no real choice. Oh and I'm adding a class feature to allow clerics of different elements to combine their powers. Reverent Strike now is a Wis attack Curse of the Cleric (water) now reduces healing by the target Elemental Orb (fire) now just does a little extra damage one time on the next round, not ongoing Dust Dervish is now a Wis attack (still uses Str for damage)