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#1 salla Jul 18, 2010 20:40:50

I had been using a house rule that Elites saved against any (save ends) effect on a natural 20, and Solos saved against any (save ends) effect on a natural 17-20.  This was primarily due to Orb Wizards being able to apply permanent stunlock or Sleep via stacking save penalties. Many of these penalties either no longer stack, or only work for the first save made, but I don't dig too deep into CO.  Is this modification still necessary?  Are save penalties still a problem?