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#1 elgeroth May 19, 2009 15:17:08	ok I was looking at this and i dont know what would happen or how to work this out MIGHTY SUNDER [EPIC] You deal extra damage when attacking objects. Prerequisites: Str 25, Epic Prowess, Improved Sunder, Power Attack. Benefit: When attacking an object, you can double any bonus damage derived from Strength. When attempting to break an object with sudden force rather than dealing regular damage, you gain a +4 bonus on your Strength check and Ruinous Rage [Epic] PrerequisitesStr 25, Improved Sunder, Power Attack, rage 5/day. BenefitWhile in a rage, the character ignores the hardness of any object he or she strikes. Also, double the character’s Strength bonus for the purposes of any Strength check made to break an object with sudden force rather than by dealing normal damage (including bursting bindings, such as ropes or manacles). I was woundering if i was to take both of these feats what would happen when i rage and try to sunder an item?
#2 Goober4473 May 19, 2009 15:28:37	double + double = tripple
#3 rikiji May 19, 2009 17:41:30	Actually, the second feat doesn't double damage - it just doubles your strength bonus for strength checks. On a sunder you would double any bonus damage derived from Strength (mighty sunder) and ignore the hardness of the object you strike (ruinous rage). If making a strength check to burst bindings you would double your Strength bonus (ruinous rage) and gain a +4 bonus to the check (mighty sunder).