Due to consitent hosting on file share sites, my work will no longer be available.
Also, make sure you check out the Lancer. It's a martial controller, but it also holds a martial focuses Epic Destiny.
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Abjurer(my pick)
Maybe that seems like an item or feature...
Still I like the name. Eldritch Tactician is good too.
Names:
Jester - he helps his team and hinders his foes: just add flavor: This is what an arcane 'Jester' would do.
Mage(lord) - Not technically a wizard or a warlock. just add 'lord' if it needs to be arcanely correct.
RED MAGE (this one took me awhile...)
Eldritch guardian/warlord - meh.
Elementalist - just add primal :D or not. please don't...
Arcanist - if profound fails, go for profane.
Eldritch Warder (We have plenty of classes with war in the name, Why not?)
Spellshield
Magelord
Eldritch Warlord
Red Mage.
Hmm, lots of decent suggestions. On the upside, it has been updated again. Power finished through level 13.
Summoned PDF is updated with a new 29th level powers and the Summoner's Resilience feat now requires you to be a summoner.
The Sorcerous Sentinel has recieved a major overhaul. PDF is updated.
My Work in Progress has been delayed by a small case of writer's block. I hope to be back onto it soon.
I wish my computer was working 'cuz I can't view the changes on the one I'm borrowing.
Still haven't decided a name?
The problem was the role. I wanted a foil to leader in the same way my Fury Sorceror is a foil to controller.
I considered divine controller as the direct opposite to what a leader does, but I can't seem to reallty decide.
leaders are support, strikers are selfish and thrive against/off of support. Controller would be an interesting thing too though... It gives me a few ideas, unfortunately I need to get back to my econ homework...
Kicked the idea aside and just put it up on one of those archive sites when I gave up on it.
Found random effects don't work in 4e as well as 3.5.
But ya, just odd.
Damn your Gambler is like a clone of something I was working on a few months ago.
Kicked the idea aside and just put it up on one of those archive sites when I gave up on it.
Found random effects don't work in 4e as well as 3.5.
But ya, just odd.
I heard about your's on enworld. Kept having people dropping into the thread saying I stole it. I've never seen yours. Think I could take a look?
I heard about your's on enworld. Kept having people dropping into the thread saying I stole it. I've never seen yours. Think I could take a look?
Ya no problem.
I can do it when I get home from work.
I get out of here in like 20 mins so after I vote I will toss it in this topic.
Sorry to hear about people bugging you on Enworld.
flavor text for fright is the same as for guiding light...
In General, I like the use of zones as a method of keeping the ??? in the thick of things... I can't see anything wrong balance wise other than the amount of versatility his higher level attacks have. Being able to target a single enemy compared to a large group is a tactical asset I wouldn't pass up for anything. The damage isn't bad either, not as good as a striker of similar level. It's hard to find anything wrong with it. *shrugs* you're getting too good at this.
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Proably just a copy/paste deal. I'll deal with in the next update. I figured the zones were ust a good idea of being able to buff the party without having rediculous bookkeeping if the party tries to break up after getting the benefit.
As for the versatile attacks, it leans into the leader aspect. Instead of pulling a cleric and having all his attacks discriminate allies from enemies, which doesn't fit as well in arcane, I simply let him reduce the radius of his attacks. As a side benefit, he usually gains a greater effect for single targetting. It does have huge tactical versatility, but not much more than the cleric being able to lay down huge areas without having to worry about targetting.
Personally, my favorite powers are Dual Incantation and Double Spell. Though Enchanted Weapon, Mass Snake's Swiftness, and Alacrity are pretty fun as well.
Any new suggestions for a name?
Voting took mt 4 hours last night and I was dead tired after that so I hit sleep.
Just got home from work (got cut early) so here is my Gambler.
At first, I thought the random effects would make the class horrible. So I compensated by having the results of the powers with backlash effects be better than you should be able to get at that level, and by providing a class feature and multiple utility powers that let you influence your luck, making it so that a high level gambler has a lot of control over his powers, despite their random nature.
Additionaly, there are enough options to avoid the having too many random effects.
That is pretty good, and I can see why some people thought I was using your as a base. You had some very good power names though.
At first, I thought the random effects would make the class horrible. So I compensated by having the results of the powers with backlash effects be better than you should be able to get at that level, and by providing a class feature and multiple utility powers that let you influence your luck, making it so that a high level gambler has a lot of control over his powers, despite their random nature.
Additionaly, there are enough options to avoid the having too many random effects.
Having a little wiggle control on the rolls was what I was planing for the class but I just felt over all it was something that I'd need to see how more WotC stuff goes before I fully finish the class.
Kind of like how I am waiting for the Beast Ranger path before I start on my Pet Monster class.
But ya, I like your style a lot. keep up the good work.
Added a new Epic Destiny that was previously within the Lancer PDF, the Weapon Master, now with it's own download.
Work In Progress is now complete through level 25.
Still looking for critiques and suggestions, if anybody cares to offer them. Particuarly names for the work in progress.
Chosen Weapon (21st level): Choose a single weapon you are proficient with. You may add this weapons associated
ability score to the damage dealt when you make a successful attack.
Do you actually mean ability SCORE? or ability MOD? Also, i take it you mean the associated ability from the list given with the fighter, such as heavy blades using dex.
Really the only thing that was blah to me was that the player summons specific creatures, in reality I think they should summon creature types (luker, brute, skirmisher, etc; no elites or solos).
As for implements, I think their choice in implements should be a boon to them, but a boon to their summoned minions. I think making a generic summoned creature like they did for the animal companion for the ranger would be far better then handing them a list of monsters to try and exploit. Just my oppinion. Other then that, I have to say...thanks this gives me a good baseline to work with for one of my players.
I had considered generic summons, but I went in favor of the imagery. Using a power that summons a red dragon is cooler than a power that summons a soldier.
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The Flurry of Blows class feature has been renamed Tumultuous Onslaught.
The Precision Strike class feature has been renamed Accurate Assault
The Iron Wall power (Daily 29) has had a duration added to the slow.
Dazzling Assault and Blindng Assault (Encounter 3 and Encounter 13) have had the effect of their secondary attack clarified.
All blasts within the PDF have been changed to target enemies only.
Rishing Strike (At-Will), Aerial Assault (Paragon 11), Meteroic Assault (Paragon 20), Lancer's Assault (Encounter 27), and Leaping Attack (Encounter 13) have been altered. They are now considered charges.
Finally, formatting has been altered slightly, to more closely match the PHB.
The Precision Strike class feature has been renamed Accurate Assault
The Iron Wall power (Daily 29) has had a duration added to the slow.
Dazzling Assault and Blindng Assault (Encounter 3 and Encounter 13) have had the effect of their secondary attack clarified.
All blasts within the PDF have been changed to target enemies only.
Rishing Strike (At-Will), Aerial Assault (Paragon 11), Meteroic Assault (Paragon 20), Lancer's Assault (Encounter 27), and Leaping Attack (Encounter 13) have been altered. They are now considered charges.
Finally, formatting has been altered slightly, to more closely match the PHB.
Really pushing the controller aspect aren't you?
And of course I'm pushing the controller aspect. The class is trying to be a martial controller.
The sustain text on every daily power has been removed. The effect has been written into the summoning keyword.
The summoning keyword has additional text now. First, all powers with the summoning keyword remain for the entire encounter, unless the power otherwise says so. This has no mechanical change, since encounter powers all say they last a round, and all dailies were free to sustain anyway.
Additionally, I've added an extra section to the summoning keyword, that allows you and your summons to both benefit from some actions. Specifically, if you use your second wind, your ceatures gains the benefit. If you take a total defense, so does your creature. And finally, when you use a move actgion, you can move your summon as well. These changes were inspired by the Beastmaster ranger.
Additionally, Utility 16 Slide Through the Gap has been changed from a Move Action to a Minor Action.
I'm taking one last open request for names before I decide on one.
Additionally, I'm taking any suggestions on Paragon Paths for this guy as well.
Anywho~ As I said, not pretending to be an expert here, but I do have one little nit pick. Are Quarter-staffs really a practical option for lancer right now? I mean the class does seem to encourage it as a 'low damage but high def/Accuracy' alternative, but it doesn't really seem to add up.
I mean compare it to the other 'two-handed weapons' the class has access to:the Military pole-arms. They have the following benefits over a staff:
-Better damage (duh)
-Multiple weapon groups. All of which are superior to staff as far as feat building goes.
-+1 to hit with ALL attacks, which is arguably better than the staffs '+2 to hit now and then"
In the end, all a staff using lancer really has going for him is a small handful of powers that grant an additional status effect (or an improved one) if a staff is used. All this really does is limit the staff users choices to certain powers, which ain't all that fun. The 'implement' aspect isn't really major enough to be called a benefit. Particularly when the Paragon path Wiz/lancers are encouraged to get, elemental fury, can use any weapon for that.
If it was my choice? I'd... get rid of the +2 to hit thing, and just have it so the class makes Staffs 'count' as a polearm. Granting the +1 to hit, and feat access to keep things balanced. Keep the the powers with other staff benefits around to make up for the low damage.... and you're good to go.
A few more class skills, and maybe Boosting the AC bonus of the defensive Staff powers wouldn't hurt either... but other people have already mentioned that, and they're honestly not major drawbacks.
Not quite sure why it's classified as a 'striker' as a secondary role though. A Ranger, or a rogue would out damage this guy to hell unless you're thinking AoE style... but AoE is suppose to be something controllers are good at anyway.
Well, while I haven't done it yet, I intend to make some feats for staves. Additionally, I've heard of a feat in the gladiator articale that makes the Staff a double weapon with the defensive property.
I'd say a dual weapon 1d8/1d8 that has reach, offers +1 AC, and has a +1 to hit from the class feature is pretty handy.
The implement option does matter in one way. There are some very good staff enchantments that could make using a staff worthwile.
Why extra class skills though?
And the Striker secondary is representative of the option to pick the more high damage single target powers, most of which are associated with the Accurate Assault style. They tend to offer more damage and an additional stat to damage.
The Summoner PDf has recieved a minor update, mostyl some formatting and spelling.
The Work In Progress has a few changes. Pervasive Ward has been reworded, and the first paragon path, Auramancer has been added.
Again, I want to thank everybody who has offered their opinions or advice.
I'll be taking looks at the stuff some more, eventually, but I just remembered that class...
Thanks, I'm glad you like mine.
The Weapon master Epic Destiny has received an overhaul, intended to make it slightly more interesting in low epic as compared to high.
The Lancer has recieved some reformatting, the Lancer Tactics and Lancer Weapon Talent class feature has been completely changed now. The Defensive Spin and Piercing Thrust At-Wills have been changed, along with the Leg Sweep Encounter 1 power. Finally, a grand new level 2 Utility power has been added.
Work in Progress has been updated. Two new paragon paths mostly. Any new suggestions for a name, or votes for an old one?
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As always, I appreciate anyone who comments on these. I appreciate the interest.
Emanator.
Just by the definition it seemes fitting in my opinion.
Look at from a math/logic POV:
When "X" emanates "Y", "Y" comes from "X" and effects "Z".
With me so far? Alright, now just change the terminology a bit.
When "????" emanates an "aura/zone/etc", the "aura/zone/etc" comes from "????" and effects "players/enemies/etc".
I mean 51 of the potential 94 powers implenement an effect that follows the above formula, not counting the purely "Range X" powers.
But of course, this is just a suggestion.
(Oh, by the by, I am a big fan of your custom classes. I ran a Dwarven Blue Mage in a recent campaign and he was a ton of fun. Keep the hits coming and best of luck avoiding writer's block.)
With your dwarven Blue Mage, were there any problematic powers or issues?
It's an all-around fun class if your DM gives you some varied encounters.
Pretty good work.
I was really interested in copying a monster's Swallow ability (i.e. Purple Worm, etc) but DM ruled the "two sizes smaller rule". Purple Worm is a huge creature that can swallow medium or smaller creatures. The only way I could really use the Swallow ability is if I was a Bugbear, Minotaur, or something large. And even then I could only swallow halflings and other small or smaller things.
And it's magic. Of course you can swallow medium and smaller creatures. The imagery is just hilarious.
Hurry up and name it! I ended up calling it Geomancer, since the professor in question is the Chair of Geomantic Studies at the Arcimagical College, though the name really has some bad memories for me since 3.5.
Have you given any thoughts to multiclass feats yet? The party warlock really wants to take the Elementalist PP, and I'm having a difficult time deciding on an appropriate benefit for a multiclass feat.
FYI, the elementalist PP is mislabeled above path features and path powers as resourceful magus.
Overall, excellent work! I'm really looking forward to seeing more!
??? Initiate (Multi-class)
Prerequisite: Charisma 13
Benefit: You gain training in the Arcana skill.
You can use the Restorative Spells class feature once per day.
I severly dislike the per day part, but it matches current leaders. My suggestion, as I would use it in my own campaign, is per encounter.
Weapon Master has been updated.
Lancer has been updated. It now has a new Tactic, several new powers, several new feats, and a brand new paragon path.
Work In Progress is complete. By most popular vote in all locations my work is posted, it is being called the Red Mage.
Additionally, I'm now taking suggestions for my next project. Remember though, I don't do anything I'm sure that wizards will put out.
Edit: Love the Shapeshifter, I may have to make use of that one at some point
The class was supposed to be a jack, but in the vein of Indiana Jones or whatnot. I mean, yes I know the Rogue is supposed to be the party's jack/stealth character but what if one doesn't want to go stealth? Sure there's the brawny rogue build, but there's nothing in the same vein as a jack with an entirely different flavor yet. If I remember correctly, the Factotum had a healthy smattering of other class features like it could heal itself, albeit only slightly and infrequently, some melee and ranged proficiency, a little spell usage (I do recall them having a spell-per-day chart) and a large list of class skills to choose from in addition to gaining a good amount of skill points to spread around.
I think it could work a lot better as a class with the current edition then 3.5, as it was always found wanting in my opinion, because of the new power structure. It could actually be balanced and quite the versatile role.
If not, then it would at least make a decent paragon path or rogue build option with some custom powers.
Sorry if it's tl;dr, just a suggestion.
Tyra from SoulCalibur.
Cavalier.
god.
Trapmaster.
Brewmaster.
Pearl Wind has been altered to use your allies healing surges.
White Wind has been altered to use your allies healing surges, and heals for slightly less.
The trigger on Angel Whisper has been altered to work properly on failed death saves.
PDF has been updated.
Also, still taking suggestions on my next work.
Edit: On the question aboout the Warlock and the melee range powers. The way I worded it, it's the range of your melee weapon. Even when unarmed, you can use your fists to strike at range 1. So technically, these powers get better when your wielding a pole arm. I'll be updating the PDF soon. These powers are have two different ranges applied to them now.
I do have a question about the Blue Mage - when using the spellbook to swap out a Blue Mage power for an Enemy Skill, did you really mean that you lose the Blue Mage power that was in that slot permanently, or did you rather intend that Blue Mage powers go in the spellbook too?
For instance, if I originally had Flash as my lvl 1 Encounter Power, and swapped it for an Enemy Skill of some kind, would Flash just be gone for good? If I decided I wanted it back, would I have to retrain for it or something, or did you rather intend that you could scribe your own powers into the spellbook (since technically if you fought an enemy blue mage, you could learn thier powers?)
Additionally, I added an extra feat to the Blue Mage while I was at it.
Thanks.I downloaded the new pdf - apparently the on I had was a slightly older version (I followed a link I dug up while wandering around on the forums a few weeks ago). I spotted a few new/altered things that I hadnt had before. I'll have to update my character
Glad to know your using it. Care to give details on how it's working out for you?
Currently, I'm playing a Warforged who, out of a long standing tradition in my group for having at least one silly video-game based character, is based somewhat on MegaMan - He uses alchemy for his attached Xbow for special shots and Blue Mage to steal abilities from his enemies :P
So far the rest of the group really likes the class, and personally I think it leans to the Striker side of the class roles for this character. The Blue Mage powers are working out well with regards to power balance with the rest of the party, though I suspect that in the hands of a true power gamer the class has the potential to be extremely broken (I.e. a character deliberately seeking out enemy NPCs to steal class powers from to combo with).
When it comes to normal monsters, stealing powers has worked in a fairly balanced method. However, I have some issues with stealing the powers of monsters that are heavy-hitting elites or solos. For instance, I managed to steal Magic Missile Storm from the elite caster at the start of Pyramid of Shadows, and boy is that overpowered for an at will, compared to the wizard's regular magic missile. Not that I'm saying I think its broken or anything - just a very, very strong power to be able to have in comparison to other At-Will AoE powers. For taking out minions, there's nothing better.
Interestingly, my group has agreed with the usage of only the monster's attack values - they all agree that its a good limiting factor with regards to power level, that if you want stronger abilities you have to put yourself at risk to get them all time. I'm actually not too convinced its a limiting factor yet - we fought a monster that was like 4 levels higher than the monster, and I stole an ability from it, so my lvl 7 character has a ridiculous to-hit bonus for that ability. But, so far, the group hasn't had a problem with it since the damage and effect isn't too bad.
I've also placed limits (mainly for flavor though) on what sort of abilities can be stolen - for instance, weapon-based attacks (like claws, or special techniques with a weapon) that don't involve magic somehow, that sort of thing. It avoids awkward interactions with powers and common sense. I havent picked up any magic-enhanced weapon based attacks yet, though if I do, I'm sure we'll end up having to make a house-ruled conversion of a power like that, so that it deals weapon damage or some such.
Anyways, I admit there are bound to be some issues, but in the case of the enemy 4 levels higher than you, I imagine you had to make a difficult skill check to learn that power, correct?
And even with weapon and claw based attacks, the assumption is, your forming claws or weapons out of your magic to use the technique. So, if you learn sword technique number 34, you don't use your sword to do it, but conjure an echo of the sword that you learned it from to do it for you.
It seems true though, that this class has some potential to be rough if you get llucky and pick up higher level abilities. But the fact your always in danger as you learn new stuff is part of the flavor.
Mind telling use what powers you've stolen and/or selected? Perhaps level as well?
Its been interesting, certainly, trying to force monsters to use things on him. He's really a ranged character, but now he has to get right up in monster's faces when he wants to learn something, so its put him in danger a few times. In the case of the thing he learned Furious Smash from, it almost got him killed. Interestingly, he's picked up more close-range powers than long range, and he might start migrating to the role of a melee controller of sorts when he doesnt have a ready access to alchemy supplies for Xbow ammunitions to use with Fiery Infusion and the like.
As you can see below, I've yet to manage to pick up any dailies, and right now I'm mainly using Furious Smash due do its absurdly high hit rate for our level. But you're right - it was a very difficult roll to make (DC 30!) and I got lucky with a 19 on the die. Its also kind of fun trying to decide when I want to use my class feature, since its such a limited useage as a multiclass. Adds a nice element of suspense when rolling that die.
Predator started out from level 5, and has aquired the following powers during his journey as levels 5 and 6:
From Elites/Solos: (And man were those lucky roles!)
Magic Missle Storm
Aquired from Human Mage (Pyramid of Shadows)
At Will, Standard Action
Close Burst 5; targets enemies; +13 vs Reflex, 1d4+5 force damage
Furious Smash
Aquired from Antipode (Custom Solo)
At-Will, Standard Action
+17 vs AC! 1d8+5 damage plus ongoing 5 fire or slowed (save ends either)
From normal monsters:
Needle Volley
Aquired from an Arborean (Pyramid of Shadows)
Encounter, Standard Action
Close Blast 3; +12 vs Fort; 2d6+4 damage and target is slowed (save ends)
Fire Lash
Aquired from a fire mephit
At-Will, Standard Action
Reach 2; +8 vs Reflex; 1d6+4 fire damage
Vicious Vines
Aquired from Vine Horror
Encounter, Standard Action
Close Burst 5; targets enemies; +10 vs Reflex; targets restrained and take ongoing 10 (save ends both)
Hmm, I'd keep an eye on this thread. Until I decide what to work on next, I'm slowly going through my older stuff, adding new feats. Since Martial Power showed more of what feats are capable of, my feat sections seemed like they needed and update.
And a feat like what your using sounds appropriate.
Hydra Fury (Standard At-Will)
The hydra makes six basic attacks.
And using it with things like Magic Missle or Eldritch Blast?
Now fortunately, in my own groups case I just would veto allowing a player to have a power like that, but I recognise that theres alot of RAW-type groups out there. But as for a rules change or addition that would make things like that impossible. . . well, I'm not sure how that oughtta go that wouldnt reduce how fun the class is. About the only thing I could really think of was something along the lines of how only certain powers (DMs choice at the time) are learnable, kind of like in Final Fantasy.
Auspicious Opportunist
Modified the powers to work, since they didn't have the weapon keyword but asked for Weapon stats
Blue Mage
Altered the Enemy Skill Keyword to dissallow attacks such as Hydra's Fury or Dragon Fury. This should solve that problem.
Now has several new feats, one of which is epic, and two of which are for multiclassers.
After I started really looking at how a Blue Mage functioned as a multi-class, I became very dissapointed. It was, as written, not possible to permanently learn powers, since you don't have the Blue Magic Capability class feature. The multi-classing feat now offers this instead of qualifying as if you had a tactic.
Dreadnought
Two new feats
Some formatting cleanup.
Gambler
So flavor modifications
A few powers got minor clean up
The Level 20 Daoly of the Ominous Augur, Double Down, has a +6 to hit to represent not having proficiency bonus.
I mean, I was thinking it would be awesome to steal the daily power from a Githyanki SIlvered weapon, just punch a guy and he gets warped to a pocket dimension.
It would be amusing with that Silvered Weapon though.
The old saints supposedly used stone altars as boats, hung their cloaks on rays of sunlight, battled demons and false gods, etc. They might make for a fun controller class, manifesting the more-direct power of the gods on the battlefield.
A money based controller, capable of manipulating enemies through greed, creating supply side zombies and destroying countries through economic means.
An Economancer.
A money based controller, capable of manipulating enemies through greed, creating supply side zombies and destroying countries through economic means.
Dude! That is SO the merchant class from Ragnarok Online! That would rock!
Proficiencies: He gets very strong armor prof’s here compared to the other controllers.
Hit points: Same as other leaders, good here.
Skills: Nothing that works off of intelligence? Perhaps dungeoneering would fit here.
Weapon Talent: This looks very strong. I’m pretty sure there’s a paragon path that does the same thing which should hint at how powerful it is. However, its not broken lets look further..
Roundabout Capability: So this keeps foes at bay, hopefully. This again seems really strong. Combined with the high armors this might be too much defense.
Tactics:
Bonuses to attack are good and fair. Bonuses to speed are…interesting, but both a race and feat aoffer this in heroic tiers so I see it as fair and balanced. +1 to non ac defenses is again a racial feature. Not sure how I feel about stepping on the toes of a race, but I don’t think its an issue of import.
“In addition to normal at-will powers” Does this mean they get three to start with? That seems like a lot. I know the druid does it, but they also can only use some powers in one form. I would suggest following the warlock pattern but with your own twist. Have one at-will for each tactic that is given and one other that can be chosen among another list.
Powers:
Spinning Blows: This is strong. For example, look at the Twin Strike of rangers. It hits two foes max vs. AC and no other bonuses. This allows for up to 8 targets to get hit. Compare also to the burst of the defender. They get v. reflex also. I’m assuming this is the power you used as a comparison. However, they get + int to damage. Although you also have to take into account their power will have lower to hit since it is an Implement not a Weapon power. With this taken into account, Spinning Blows is better than both of these powers.
Piercing Thrust: This is again too strong. Compare it to Twin Strike which also targets two creatures but hits AC and does not do extra damage. This power does more damage, targets Fort and pushes the target.
Rapid Attacks: The target for this power is Close Blast weapon. Does this mean that it would have a range of 3 with a spear? If so it allows a target of up to 3 foes and a push. This might be more balanced. If you compare this to Thunderwave for wizards then it is fine.
Defensive Spin: The effect on this is too strong. A +2 to one defense or a +1 to each would be fine. The +3 bonus is also a huge bonus. I like the idea of it, but not sure on how to change it.
Vertical Toss: This is again better than the wizard power, Frost Ray. Frost ray will have a much lower bonus to hit and has a lower damage in addition to targeting fortitude which is a higher def for the most part.
Rushing Attack: This is a good power. It allows movement, but that movement would provoke an opportunity attack. The damage is balanced and the effect is flavorful and useful.
Whipping Slash: A constitution attack and the only one. On second thought both Piercing thrust and defensive spin are the only at-wills to use Int and Dex respectively. This is interesting and not emulated in the PHB. That doesn’t mean its bad. However, spinning blows seems infinitely better. It does less damage, targets a lower def and uses Str so is likely to have a higher bonus to hit. With that in mind, a lower bonus to hit, +con damage and 1 extra slide does make this worthwhile. Nevermind, this seems fine.
Encounter Powers:
Swirling Blows: This is actually worse than the Spinning blows at will… it targets AC but does +str dmg. It might be balanced against it but is not better.
Lunge: Seems good.
Blinding Swipe: Blind is too good to inflict on that many people as an encounter power that also targets Ref. It targets less enemies than Blinding Barrage, does crazy less damage but hits an easier defense. Perhaps a static minus to hit as opposed to blinded (which requires foes to guess the square and get a –5 to attack)
Distracting Shot: Marks? For a controller? o.O This practically ensures the foe will take a -2 to hit since they will likely not be able to reach you due to the slow and it does 2w damage. I’m not sure on how this one is.
Darting Strikes: This doesn’t seem bad but seems more like a striker power.
Leg Sweep: Seems fine at first but lets compare it to Icy Terrain. To get the +2 to hit you will have 1d8 dmg. Without the +2 to hit you will likely have 1d10 damage (longspear). It is close burst, hitting same foes but without the range. There is also no Difficult terrain add on. However, they already more or less have difficult terrain around themselves at all times so you could say that it does allow this. It seems slightly better than Icy terrain.
Phew and that’s it for now. Keep up the good work!
Proficiencies: He gets very strong armor prof’s here compared to the other controllers.
The proficiencies are a notch above the other controllers. The shield is largely to offer support to peole wanting to use a one handed spear. Chainmail was offered to make the Constitution route viable, without pulling the Druid and allowing Constitution to AC, replacing Dex or Int.
Skills: Nothing that works off of intelligence? Perhaps dungeoneering would fit here.
I agree, and Int based skill would be appropriate. Unfortunately, the options for Int based skills is slim: Religion, Arcana, and History.
Roundabout Capability: So this keeps foes at bay, hopefully. This again seems really strong. Combined with the high armors this might be too much defense.
The idea behind this feature was to provide constant control in your vicinity, making enemy movement difficult. When combined with various things, it can make moving in the area around the Lancer a painful idea, which discourages the enemy from trying it.
Tactics:
Bonuses to attack are good and fair. Bonuses to speed are…interesting, but both a race and feat aoffer this in heroic tiers so I see it as fair and balanced. +1 to non ac defenses is again a racial feature. Not sure how I feel about stepping on the toes of a race, but I don’t think its an issue of import.
“In addition to normal at-will powers” Does this mean they get three to start with? That seems like a lot. I know the druid does it, but they also can only use some powers in one form. I would suggest following the warlock pattern but with your own twist. Have one at-will for each tactic that is given andone other that can be chosen among another list.
The +1 to non-AC defenses is to help make up for the Persistent Offensive's weakness. That tactic is going to boost Strength and Constitution. This leaves Reflex and Will defenses lagging far behind. A +1 isn't going to fix the damage, but it'll help make it less noticable.
The bonus at-wills are the at-wills linked to the tactic. Those at-wills use the tactics secondary stat to determine their accuracy and damage. This forces these at-wills to be weaker than the other options.
Powers:
Spinning Blows: This is strong. For example, look at the Twin Strike of rangers. It hits two foes max vs. AC and no other bonuses. This allows for up to 8 targets to get hit. Compare also to the burst of the defender. They get v. reflex also. I’m assuming this is the power you used as a comparison. However, they get + int to damage. Although you also have to take into account their power will have lower to hit since it is an Implement not a Weapon power. With this taken into account, Spinning Blows is better than both of these powers.
Twin Strike is a poor comparison for these powers. Twin Strikes greatest bonus is insuring Quary damage each round. Additionally, it allows you to focus the damage on a single target, allowing greater output.
For Spinning Blows, is offers a small slide, and forces the damage to be spread around. I could see altering it to target AC though. One final note is that unlike most powers in this class, it targets all creatures, meaning allies will be hit as well.
Piercing Thrust: This is again too strong. Compare it to Twin Strike which also targets two creatures but hits AC and does not do extra damage. This power does more damage, targets Fort and pushes the target.
Piercing Thrust uses Intelligence for targetting, not Strength, which is the primary attack number for the class. And Fortitude is often equal to, and in some cases, higher than AC. This is most often true of brutes and soldiers, the creatures your going to most likely want to push away.
Rapid Attacks: The target for this power is Close Blast weapon. Does this mean that it would have a range of 3 with a spear? If so it allows a target of up to 3 foes and a push. This might be more balanced. If you compare this to Thunderwave for wizards then it is fine.
Rapid Attacks with a one-handed spear would be Close Blast 2, while a Long Spear would be Close Blast 3.
Defensive Spin: The effect on this is too strong. A +2 to one defense or a +1 to each would be fine. The +3 bonus is also a huge bonus. I like the idea of it, but not sure on how to change it.
Defensive Spin is usually a poor tactical choice for use, unless your worried about being swarmed. It's single target in a class that wants multiple targets and it uses an off-stat for accuracy and damage. In exchange, your become more resistant to a few attacks. Using a Staff offers a little extra defense, at the cost of more accuracy as well as damage.
Vertical Toss: This is again better than the wizard power, Frost Ray. Frost ray will have a much lower bonus to hit and has a lower damage in addition to targeting fortitude which is a higher def for the most part.
I'll swap this to targetting AC.
Whipping Slash: A constitution attack and the only one. On second thought both Piercing thrust and defensive spin are the only at-wills to use Int and Dex respectively. This is interesting and not emulated in the PHB. That doesn’t mean its bad. However, spinning blows seems infinitely better. It does less damage, targets a lower def and uses Str so is likely to have a higher bonus to hit. With that in mind, a lower bonus to hit, +con damage and 1 extra slide does make this worthwhile. Nevermind, this seems fine.
Yes, this, along with the two afformentioned at-wills are unique in using secondary stats for attack and damage.
Encounter Powers:
Swirling Blows: This is actually worse than the Spinning blows at will… it targets AC but does +str dmg. It might be balanced against it but is not better.
It offers Strength damage, as well as intelligent targetting, protecting allies. And the tactic benefit offers a huge increase in the push distance.
Blinding Swipe: Blind is too good to inflict on that many people as an encounter power that also targets Ref. It targets less enemies than Blinding Barrage, does crazy less damage but hits an easier defense. Perhaps a static minus to hit as opposed to blinded (which requires foes to guess the square and get a –5 to attack)
It offers minimal damage. However, it is an unreliable attack, using Dexterity for the bonus to hit instead of Strength. This is another attack that doesn't distinguish targets, catching allies as well as enemies, a fact that caused more than a few issues during playtest when the player didn't realize. Nothing like blinding half your own party.
Distracting Shot: Marks? For a controller? o.O This practically ensures the foe will take a -2 to hit since they will likely not be able to reach you due to the slow and it does 2w damage. I’m not sure on how this one is.
The damage was a typo. It was only intended to be 1[W]. I'll correct it. Using the marked condition was intended as a method of debuffing the enemy, without having the -2 stack with a defender's mark.
Leg Sweep: Seems fine at first but lets compare it to Icy Terrain. To get the +2 to hit you will have 1d8 dmg. Without the +2 to hit you will likely have 1d10 damage (longspear). It is close burst, hitting same foes but without the range. There is also no Difficult terrain add on. However, they already more or less have difficult terrain around themselves at all times so you could say that it does allow this. It seems slightly better than Icy terrain.
Did you account for it using Intelligence for damage, resulting in a sllight damage decrease? It is a close one.
Phew and that’s it for now. Keep up the good work!
Thanks for all the input. I always welcome comments and suggestions. It you care to continue and/or argue and rebut my points, feel free.
Thanks for the comments, VampyresThrenody. I'll go over what you've mentioned and provide my reasoning.
Proficiencies: He gets very strong armor prof’s here compared to the other controllers.
The proficiencies are a notch above the other controllers. The shield is largely to offer support to peole wanting to use a one handed spear. Chainmail was offered to make the Constitution route viable, without pulling the Druid and allowing Constitution to AC, replacing Dex or Int.
Ah I forgot to look at the druid when looking at this! Duh ><. Also, after seeing how many close blasts there are this shouldn't be an issue. However, I think the high AC combined with the difficult terrain around them makes for a very hard to hit target. With a 1H spear you have 1d8 dmg, reach 2, and a possible +7 AC from armor alone (shield included). 17 AC and a near guaranteed opportunity attack for any foe moving into melee range make this quite powerful
Skills: Nothing that works off of intelligence? Perhaps dungeoneering would fit here.
I agree, and Int based skill would be appropriate. Unfortunately, the options for Int based skills is slim: Religion, Arcana, and History.
Again, my mistake. I forgot Dungeoneering is based on Will.
Roundabout Capability: So this keeps foes at bay, hopefully. This again seems really strong. Combined with the high armors this might be too much defense.
The idea behind this feature was to provide constant control in your vicinity, making enemy movement difficult. When combined with various things, it can make moving in the area around the Lancer a painful idea, which discourages the enemy from trying it.
I think this is a cool concept. But it feels somewhat powerful when combined with a a 17 or 16 starting AC. I'm curious how this played out in playtesting. Also, it would provoke opp attacks from all allies when an enemy tries to move into melee range with a lancer. If you combine them with a fighter they will almost never get the chance to do that. this isn't bad, but with the chainmail armor prof it stacks up pretty high.
Tactics:
Bonuses to attack are good and fair. Bonuses to speed are…interesting, but both a race and feat aoffer this in heroic tiers so I see it as fair and balanced. +1 to non ac defenses is again a racial feature. Not sure how I feel about stepping on the toes of a race, but I don’t think its an issue of import.
“In addition to normal at-will powers” Does this mean they get three to start with? That seems like a lot. I know the druid does it, but they also can only use some powers in one form. I would suggest following the warlock pattern but with your own twist. Have one at-will for each tactic that is given andone other that can be chosen among another list.
The +1 to non-AC defenses is to help make up for the Persistent Offensive's weakness. That tactic is going to boost Strength and Constitution. This leaves Reflex and Will defenses lagging far behind. A +1 isn't going to fix the damage, but it'll help make it less noticable.
The bonus at-wills are the at-wills linked to the tactic. Those at-wills use the tactics secondary stat to determine their accuracy and damage. This forces these at-wills to be weaker than the other options.
Ah, that makes sense. Why did you choose to tie the required at-wills to the secondary defense? And I take this to mean the class has 3 starting at-wills?
Powers:
Spinning Blows: This is strong. For example, look at the Twin Strike of rangers. It hits two foes max vs. AC and no other bonuses. This allows for up to 8 targets to get hit. Compare also to the burst of the defender. They get v. reflex also. I’m assuming this is the power you used as a comparison. However, they get + int to damage. Although you also have to take into account their power will have lower to hit since it is an Implement not a Weapon power. With this taken into account, Spinning Blows is better than both of these powers.
Twin Strike is a poor comparison for these powers. Twin Strikes greatest bonus is insuring Quary damage each round. Additionally, it allows you to focus the damage on a single target, allowing greater output.
For Spinning Blows, is offers a small slide, and forces the damage to be spread around. I could see altering it to target AC though. One final note is that unlike most powers in this class, it targets all creatures, meaning allies will be hit as well.
I hadn't considered that last part. I think this would be fine if it targeted AC. Try playtesting both and see how it handles.
Piercing Thrust: This is again too strong. Compare it to Twin Strike which also targets two creatures but hits AC and does not do extra damage. This power does more damage, targets Fort and pushes the target.
Piercing Thrust uses Intelligence for targetting, not Strength, which is the primary attack number for the class. And Fortitude is often equal to, and in some cases, higher than AC. This is most often true of brutes and soldiers, the creatures your going to most likely want to push away.
Most players would likely have at least a +2 or +3 in their secondary, I'd aim for a +3 especially if you needed it to target and do dmg but let's look at both. With a +2 you end up with about +5 to hit (+1 class feature, +2 prof). Compared to a +4 (or +5) hit with a wizard power it has a slightly better chance to strike. Its damage will most likely be 1d8+2 (avg 6) or 1d10+2(avg 7), which does have the same average as most wizard at wills..I think: 1d6+4 & effects (7 avg). So the damage seems fine...and it'll most likely push 2 squares. Hmm okay you're right. This is fine.
Rapid Attacks: The target for this power is Close Blast weapon. Does this mean that it would have a range of 3 with a spear? If so it allows a target of up to 3 foes and a push. This might be more balanced. If you compare this to Thunderwave for wizards then it is fine.
Rapid Attacks with a one-handed spear would be Close Blast 2, while a Long Spear would be Close Blast 3.
Okay.
Defensive Spin: The effect on this is too strong. A +2 to one defense or a +1 to each would be fine. The +3 bonus is also a huge bonus. I like the idea of it, but not sure on how to change it.
Defensive Spin is usually a poor tactical choice for use, unless your worried about being swarmed. It's single target in a class that wants multiple targets and it uses an off-stat for accuracy and damage. In exchange, your become more resistant to a few attacks. Using a Staff offers a little extra defense, at the cost of more accuracy as well as damage.
Okay the dmg comparison on this one would be the same as above. The way I see it being abused most is with several weapons. Its a minor action to draw/sheath a weapon and a free action (minor to pick up)to drop a weapon. Drop the spear, draw the staff and end up with a possible 20 AC until start of next turn, plus the difficult terrain around yourself already. Also, your ref is likely to be at least 15 from using this assuming a minimum +2 in the secondary stat. Okay this would end up with some interesting tactics but I can't see most players finding ways to overly abuse it.
Vertical Toss: This is again better than the wizard power, Frost Ray. Frost ray will have a much lower bonus to hit and has a lower damage in addition to targeting fortitude which is a higher def for the most part.
I'll swap this to targetting AC.
Looks fine here.
Whipping Slash: A constitution attack and the only one. On second thought both Piercing thrust and defensive spin are the only at-wills to use Int and Dex respectively. This is interesting and not emulated in the PHB. That doesn’t mean its bad. However, spinning blows seems infinitely better. It does less damage, targets a lower def and uses Str so is likely to have a higher bonus to hit. With that in mind, a lower bonus to hit, +con damage and 1 extra slide does make this worthwhile. Nevermind, this seems fine.
Yes, this, along with the two afformentioned at-wills are unique in using secondary stats for attack and damage.
I needed to have looked at this before, it has a stronger effect on how the at-wills work.
Encounter Powers:
Swirling Blows: This is actually worse than the Spinning blows at will… it targets AC but does +str dmg. It might be balanced against it but is not better.
It offers Strength damage, as well as intelligent targetting, protecting allies. And the tactic benefit offers a huge increase in the push distance.
It really only increases the push distance for that specific tactic though. The power wouldn't be useful for any other tactic and not even a consideration. Perhaps up the damage to 2w or add +secondary to damage on top of the +primary.
Blinding Swipe: Blind is too good to inflict on that many people as an encounter power that also targets Ref. It targets less enemies than Blinding Barrage, does crazy less damage but hits an easier defense. Perhaps a static minus to hit as opposed to blinded (which requires foes to guess the square and get a –5 to attack)
It offers minimal damage. However, it is an unreliable attack, using Dexterity for the bonus to hit instead of Strength. This is another attack that doesn't distinguish targets, catching allies as well as enemies, a fact that caused more than a few issues during playtest when the player didn't realize. Nothing like blinding half your own party.
Hmm when you put it that way I can see it being alright. The most you'll likely have to hit is +5 although v. Ref at lv one that isn't too bad. Also don't forget that the blind will stack with the marking (which looks like you were worried about on another power). I think its a little strong because of the other factors leaving foes with a very unlikely chance to hit you if they become blinded. Also, any enemy that is chancing the hits to get into melee with you likely has a low Ref defense. Perhaps targetting a diff defense? It wouldn't match the flavor of the attack then though.
Distracting Shot: Marks? For a controller? o.O This practically ensures the foe will take a -2 to hit since they will likely not be able to reach you due to the slow and it does 2w damage. I’m not sure on how this one is.
The damage was a typo. It was only intended to be 1[W]. I'll correct it. Using the marked condition was intended as a method of debuffing the enemy, without having the -2 stack with a defender's mark.
I think it'd be fine to have it stack with the defender's mark. Especially if you'll have other powers that give out blind (even with the range difference).
Leg Sweep: Seems fine at first but lets compare it to Icy Terrain. To get the +2 to hit you will have 1d8 dmg. Without the +2 to hit you will likely have 1d10 damage (longspear). It is close burst, hitting same foes but without the range. There is also no Difficult terrain add on. However, they already more or less have difficult terrain around themselves at all times so you could say that it does allow this. It seems slightly better than Icy terrain.
Did you account for it using Intelligence for damage, resulting in a sllight damage decrease? It is a close one.
The damage will likely be the same, but your bonus to hit will be higher even without switching weapons to use a staff for the attack. You have to keep in mind that you already have a constant difficult terrain field around you. This doesn't let you place a spot of terrain on top of enemies near a fighter though. I can see it being balanced.
Phew and that’s it for now. Keep up the good work!
Thanks for all the input. I always welcome comments and suggestions. It you care to continue and/or argue and rebut my points, feel free.
I'll take a look at the other powers sometime this week when I find some time. But overall, it looks great! However, I have only played in heroic tier so far so don't feel confident claiming anything remotely about being able to determine the balance of anything past say levels 7 or so.
The biggest thing that came up was that mobility is a huge issue for this class. If you can't get between enemies, you're not hitting multiple foes, and your not helping control. And, since your trying to get between everybody to make best use of your area attacks, that AC is constantly being attacked.
Well, that still leaves the Divine Striker position open.
On the other hand, I was messing around the other day, and started on something. I'll post the prelominary work here in a bit.
Here is the link
Does the Substitution Technique (Utility 6) make your ally take the damage instead of you?
Perhaps some "Path of ..." specific paragon paths such as Witchhunter (Shadow), Phoenix Adept (Flame), or Hurricaneer (Air). Or a paragon path that specializes in Implement-based or Melee-based powers.
Maybe a feat that lets you take an extra "Path of ..." feature; multicass feats are always good; feats that boost your current "Path of ..." bonuses; something that boosts your Mental Focus feature; there are a bunch of different options for this class.
Naming it will be the hard part.
Paragon paths focuses on each path sounds llike a good idea, same with the feat to improve it. I had definitly planned a feat to let you get a second path. Part of why some powers have both Flame and Air keywords.
Naming is going to be the hardest part.
Just sayin'
I have been considering adding some races to the list.
Mental Focus reminds me of the Fate of the Void power of Warlocks. Less versatile, but seems more useful and powerful in general.
What is the point of having a Flame keyword when Fire is already one? What does this add to the game and does it justify any potential confusion or overlap?
At-Wills
Sleeve of White Snow; a very nice power, but both a con and int modifier damage might be too much, especially as both are key stats of the class. It isn’t that far off to imagine that a character could deal 6 damage consistently at lvl 1. By lvl 20, that could be around 12 damage consistently. That is the average of a D12 (or a D24) over several encounters (but more trustworthy). Course, it also has the potential to deal no damage (if the character has no bonuses). I might suggest removing a modifier (but adding it back in at lvl 21) and replace it with a dice (a d6 maybe). Or, at the very least, I’d recommend placing a lower limit (power deals at least 1 damage). The damage potential isn’t so much out of line with other at will powers, but the reliability (and indeed the variability based on character) is.
Shadow thrust is good, but it took me minute to figure out what “melee weapon 5” meant. If you can, it might be nice to make it clearer.
Level 2 Utility
Lightning Dash is nice, but it seems a little weak for a utility.
Level 6 Utility
Arcane Defense: You might want to state “All Defenses” or something along those lines, to make it clear which defenses this applies to.
Substitution Technique is nice, but it doesn’t seem very nice. I can see players either avoiding that power a lot or the ones that do use it annoying their teammates… unless the enemy’s attack wouldn’t then fall on the ally
Level 10 Utility
Shadow Step is nice, but for being 8 levels higher, it seems barely better than Lightning Dash.
Flying leap… the color code says it is an at-will power, but the text says that it is an encounter power. Though, given the possibility of exceeding one’s movement, I can see characters hopping around the field like rabbits.
not sure if my computer is doing it or if something on the sight is broken
let me know, if you figure out the problem
If you care to point out what you feel is overpowered, I'd be happy to address it and discuss it with you.
Also, for anyone wondering where I've been, I've had some PC troubles that have kept me from updating much. Hopefully, it will be corrected soon.
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Sleeve of White Snow
Valid point on possibly dealing no damage. The primary point of it for me was the reliability of knowing your damage.
Shadow Thrust
I'll add a note explaining exactly what melee 5 means when I can update.
Lightning Dash
Seems weak, but is better than the Rogue Utility Tumble, which shifts half speed.
Arcane Defenses
Agreed. Needs to say all defenses
Substitution Technique
Well, letting the vulnerable striker swap places with the hardy defender with better defenses could easily make the attack less likely to hit. Or switching with the Ranger, who uses oneof his powers to counter attack. Definitly requires teamwork, and one should consult your allies first.
Shadow Step
True. I suppose it couldbe a Minor Action. Though, I'm thinking Lightning Dash might need a speed decrease, making boosting this power unecessary.
Flying Leap
The Color code is right, it is an at-will power. And this is essentially an upgrade of the similar level 2 Rogue Utility, the upgrade being the +5 to the check.
MatthewSwift
I don't see anything ninja like about it? Care to share your reasoning?
Zakk Jedi
Not sure why you can't access 4shared. If you'd like, I'll email the PDfs to you. Simply tell me which ones you'd like.
Shadow anything... eheh, shady no?
The Arcane techniques all remind me of a mystic striker type. I think pre-Narutard but non-DnD version of a Ninja. It's just a gut reaction, so not entirely thought out. Just a guess really.
Also,
the shapeshifter has a lvl 2 utilty power: 1/encounter minor action: spend healing surge -> heal HS value + con mod. (in her case (a dex 18/ con 14 human with the custom array) thats 10 hp)
is it me, or is that a bit much? (my lvl 4 inferlock (con based Gith with custom array) can get 10 temp hp as minor action 1/day)
As soon as I get my primary PC fixed, so I can update this. The hunk of junk I'm working on now doesn't cut it.
Noting that, if I ever get a PC that will run properly all of the time, I may update my summoner to use the official summoning keyword. At the same time, I'll like revamp the class, modifying the summons as necessary using what can be learned from the Arcane Power summons as well as the Invoker's summons from the PHB2.
Moving to another note, the shapeshifter will undoubtable get a slight workover as well. Having seen the full range of primal capabilities, I'll likely add a more magical touch to the Shapeshifters encounter powers.
Weapon Master will likely get reworked entirely. I'm no longer happy with it as written.
Finally, I do promise that all of my classes will get expanded feats. Just as soon as I can get a normal, functioning, non-Windows ME PC. However, I'm still taking suggestions and critiques of my classes, should anybody wish to look them over and comment. (Notable, I'm still looking for a name for my Work In Progress)
Just one suggestion. With the "I Know That Trick" ability, would it make more sense to rely on the attack type that you know rather than the attack itself? (Cold, Fire, etc).
And of course, looking forward to more feats :D
As for I Know That Trick, it was intended as a largely throw away ability, mostly helpful on creatures with power recharge abilities (looking at dragon breath here). If I were to expand it to keywords, the bonus would probably need to drop to +1, with the feat boosting it to +2.
As for feats, I may do some generic fets for all classes as well, but that's not confirmed yet. If anybody wants to suggest fdeats for my classes, I'd be happy to see them, though I do have a few ideas, consider8ng what feats have shown to be capable of since Martial Power and PHB2, not to mention what I'm hearing about Arcane Power.
It has come to my attention that at least some of my work has been hosted to some file sharing sites (notably Scribd). Why I am happy to provide my custom content for free through these downloads, I do not wish to have them hosted beyond where I have them.
If you have uploaded them somwhere for download, I ask that you please remove them. If you find them somewhere for download, please inform me, so I can ask to have them remove.
The only place that my material should be available to download is 4shared.com, where my user name is also ff6shadow.
How is it playing for your halfling?
Power cut is well...in the same boat only replace Barbarian with 'defenders who use weapons'. (aka: all but one).
Air cut: Let it kill minions drop the 1[w] part.
If Karmic Chance is meant as MC feat, it needs a skill (based on others), if not it needs 'Multiclassed into Gambler'
Skilled Gamer- fine
I don't know what Karma Points do, if it involves Reroll, NO.
Rest of Gambler: Seems ok.
Close Range combatant: See Karmic Chance.
Reaching Target: Fine
Unflagging Determination: Change 'when you are gone below 0hp...' to 'when you have gone below 0hp'
Warded Mage See Karmic Chance
Master Generalist - New name please as its bordering on Oxymoronic.
Hm. . . Power Cut . . . okay with just the push?
Air Cut - Done.
Karmic Chance, Close Range Combatant, Warded Mage - Done. I forgot to add the skill
Good Karma - For the class feature, rerolling a failed attack roll requires 3 karma point. I'm inclined to level this at just one karma point.
Unflagging Determination: Yeah, a bit of a typo there.
Master Generalist - Oxymoronic, yes, but very fitting considering the class. I'll shift the names on those three feats around a bit.
Thank you, Aluman. I appreciate your comments.
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Due to consitent hosting on file share sites, my work will no longer be available.
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Yeah, my thoughts exactly. I didn't want to do it, but, in typical internet style, a bunch of ***holes ruined something for everybody.
I just don't get it. I'd be flattered myself. Someone made a torrent out of my class. Who the hell would torrent that?
(Besides, its a really old version of the class too. Inept pirates, stealing free stuff.)
I really liked a lot of the classes you made, and I wish I had saved them before you took them off.
I do feel like I've wasted my time. However, I'm looking into making them accessible again. Just not entirely sure how I intend to do it yet.
Seriously I wouldn't have a problem with it, but that doesn't mean he won't, if the man said don't touch it, then don't touch it...its just a respect thing...now hurry up and put it on there so I can check it out..
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well in FF6s defense its basically like you having a party and someone asking to come in and use the phone. You go to the bathroom and the next thing you know not only are they using your phone but they've got your beer and pizza, and on top of that you can hear someone on the other end speakin' japanese and you ask who it is, and they are like, oh its my gf in tokyo. And then the next day your wallets missing and you go to talk to them and they are like I don't know what your talkin' about, and you can see it on their coffee table. And then their like, oh that's your wallet, my bad.
Seriously I wouldn't have a problem with it, but that doesn't mean he won't, if the man said don't touch it, then don't touch it...its just a respect thing...now hurry up and put it on there so I can check it out..
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The primary difference being that beer, pizza, and phone calls are limited resources, u when the party crasher takes them from you, you cannot use them. Unless FF6 was planning to sell this stuff later, than people downloading his stuff does not deny him that type of resource.
What FF6 seems to be upset about to me is the loss of 1) creative control, and 2) due credit for his works.
It wasn't even my feelings, but a matter of principle. I'm perfectly willing to provide thsde for free, if you heed my two simple requests; don't host them elsehwere or link directly to them, and feel free to share your experiences with them.
I do feel like I've wasted my time. However, I'm looking into making them accessible again. Just not entirely sure how I intend to do it yet.
This could be solved by posting his stuff in the future as watermarked pdf's. A watermark of other note in the pdf would keep his name attached to it, and also make it more difficult to edit his work.
FF6, would this be something you would consider as a compromise? Regardless of the internet community you post on, if you post something good, people are going to want to show their friends.
Has slowed down my hopes of putting them back online, along with something new I'm working on.
its free and easy to use
I hope that you do regain access to a decent laptop. I know from personal experience how much that sucks. I'm on my mother-in-law's laptop as we speak. Keep your chin up and focus on you doing you. You have fantastic material to share and I look forward to the day when your faith in us has returned. :-)
Darn this makes me so sad, I remebered reading through your excellent material (especially the ranged arcane defender, abjurer?). I hope to see you back at it soon.