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Fix for Orb of Imposition

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#1
trailfoot
Mar 18, 2009 15:52:29 Well... after a ton of playing with numbers and scenarios, I've come to the conclusion that there's only one character ability in 4e that desperately needs fixing... Orb of Imposition. I've seen other people's attempts to fix it, though, and they seem to go too far... so I've got my own.

Add to ORB OF IMPOSITION:

"If, at the end of its turn, the target fails its save against the modified effect, it immediately makes another save, unmodified by this ability. If the target succeeds at this save, the condition remains but the penalty imposed by Orb of Imposition is removed."
#2
Crimson_Concerto
Mar 18, 2009 16:04:08 That seems really overcomplicated, and I don't think it goes far enough.
MY personal favorite fix is to just have it be an immediate interrupt to impose the penalty to a single save, kind of the same way Staff of Defense is an immediate interrupt to add a bonus to AC against a single attack or the way Wand of Accuracy is a free action to add a bonus to a single attack roll.
#3
matthewswift
Mar 18, 2009 18:44:47 sounds like you're slipping a "save ends" onto the save limiter. Makes sense to me. I intend to make the penalty imposed by OOP good for only one save, but yours is easier on the power. I approve.
#4
trailfoot
Mar 18, 2009 19:58:53
sounds like you're slipping a "save ends" onto the save limiter. Makes sense to me. I intend to make the penalty imposed by OOP good for only one save, but yours is easier on the power. I approve.

Pretty much exactly. I had to word it that way to keep the solo with its +5 save from saving against Orb of Imposition before saving against the effect it's attatched to, thus basically rendering the feature nigh-worthless in the situation where it was most broken before.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 trailfoot Mar 18, 2009 15:52:29	Well... after a ton of playing with numbers and scenarios, I've come to the conclusion that there's only one character ability in 4e that desperately needs fixing... Orb of Imposition. I've seen other people's attempts to fix it, though, and they seem to go too far... so I've got my own. Add to ORB OF IMPOSITION: "If, at the end of its turn, the target fails its save against the modified effect, it immediately makes another save, unmodified by this ability. If the target succeeds at this save, the condition remains but the penalty imposed by Orb of Imposition is removed."
#2 Crimson_Concerto Mar 18, 2009 16:04:08	That seems really overcomplicated, and I don't think it goes far enough. MY personal favorite fix is to just have it be an immediate interrupt to impose the penalty to a single save, kind of the same way Staff of Defense is an immediate interrupt to add a bonus to AC against a single attack or the way Wand of Accuracy is a free action to add a bonus to a single attack roll.
#3 matthewswift Mar 18, 2009 18:44:47	sounds like you're slipping a "save ends" onto the save limiter. Makes sense to me. I intend to make the penalty imposed by OOP good for only one save, but yours is easier on the power. I approve.
#4 trailfoot Mar 18, 2009 19:58:53	sounds like you're slipping a "save ends" onto the save limiter. Makes sense to me. I intend to make the penalty imposed by OOP good for only one save, but yours is easier on the power. I approve. Pretty much exactly. I had to word it that way to keep the solo with its +5 save from saving against Orb of Imposition before saving against the effect it's attatched to, thus basically rendering the feature nigh-worthless in the situation where it was most broken before.