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#1 neorevenge Mar 26, 2009 22:20:35	I saw a book from good man games for 4E wich included "4 new clasess" in a Post Apocaliptic setting Bard, Barbarian, Druid and Monk... Now i know that we have 3 of them thanks to PHB2 but im tempted to get this book just to play a monk, so my question is it really worth it?, anyone has checked it out?, what is diferent beetwen the classes described in this book and the ones in PHB2?
#2 TheBouncyPherret Mar 26, 2009 22:42:28	I saw a book from good man games for 4E wich included "4 new clasess" in a Post Apocaliptic setting Bard, Barbarian, Druid and Monk... Now i know that we have 3 of them thanks to PHB2 but im tempted to get this book just to play a monk, so my question is it really worth it?, anyone has checked it out?, what is diferent beetwen the classes described in this book and the ones in PHB2? One word for you: DON'T. It's pretty bad. I had to stop when I say an encounter power that gave the wizard a +2 bonus to all Cha-based skill checks until the end of the encounter. Also, the classes in FH are nothing like their WotC equivalent. That, however, was done by choice. There is a forward in the book that explains their design principle: make it different enough that both versions of the class can co-exist. For example, the barbarian is a martial defender, while the monk is a divine striker. It was a great attempt, but the authors even admitted that they started working on the book before the PH/DMG/MM was released. So, yeah, this book is a pass. However, I'm sure they've learned from this and their next one will be top-notch! TBP
#3 neorevenge Mar 26, 2009 23:14:15	so nothing worth a look in the book?, well thanks for the advice =), now have to wait for the monk prev X3 (in the meantime ill have to apply the ranger solution )
#4 Tenzhi Mar 27, 2009 0:54:53	I found Forgotten Heroes: Fist, Fang, and Song to be a pretty decent supplement. Even with the PHB2 around, I'd use it for the Monk and probably allow the defender variant of the Barbarian it offers up. The Druid and Bard in it I *might* allow alongside the PHB2 classes, or perhaps in place of them depending on which I felt best suited the game I had planned.
#5 TheBouncyPherret Mar 27, 2009 7:44:47	so nothing worth a look in the book?, well thanks for the advice =), now have to wait for the monk prev X3 (in the meantime ill have to apply the ranger solution ) What kind of monk do you envision? It could easily be replicated by either an avenger or a ranger, depending on what you're looking for. Ranger with TWF and a pair of spiked gauntlets, and a high Int works well. With the high Int, MC wizard for your ki blasts. Or, instead of the gauntlets, a magical staff (implement) and the staff fighting feat. This allows you to use the implement as a double weapon, and an implement for your ki blasts (wiz powers). Otherwise, avenger is a good choice with a quarterstaff. It has ranged powers built right in the class, and is less MAD. The above mentioned ranger needs good Str, Int, and Wis. An avenger needs a good Wis, and either good Int or Dex. Either way, AC and Ref are going to be top-notch, as well as their Will. Get a 15 Str to qualify for power attack, and your Fort isn't going to be lacking, either. I actually did the math, and you're just as accurate with power attack and rolling twice as you are with a single roll and no power attack. Also, since the quarterstaff is a two-handed weapon, it's a +3 to the damage instead of +2! TBP