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Post/Author/DateTime Post
#1
aj_the_ronin
Jun 19, 2008 17:28:58 1. Will there be previews on the site?
2. Will it include Pre-Gens?
3. The paper quality will be the same used for KotS (H1)?
#2
strand0
Jun 20, 2008 3:22:53 IMHO No. They have not been posting preview on the board here at all. Previews will be/have been posted in the WotC com site.
#3
darkwolf71
Jun 20, 2008 8:02:36
3. The paper quality will be the same used for KotS (H1)?

If they don't 'at least' put heavier covers on the booklets, I will be moving exclusivly to 3rd party and homebrew adventures. KotS seems like a great adventure (Finally get to run it this weekend) but the production quality was... poor. (I'd likely be banned if I posted a more accurate opinion.)
#4
the_ubbergeek
Jun 21, 2008 1:54:10 Why heavier covers?

Beware the hype of third parties, also...
#5
wells
Jun 21, 2008 7:52:29
1. Will there be previews on the site?
2. Will it include Pre-Gens?
3. The paper quality will be the same used for KotS (H1)?

1. Not that I know of.
2. Maybe, but you could always use the pre-gens from H1 now that they are level 3.
3. Yes, most likely.
#6
darkwolf71
Jun 21, 2008 14:36:42
Why heavier covers?

Beware the hype of third parties, also...

Because the covers of the H1 booklets are very fragile and as has been noted by many are prone to smudging...

And, beware the hype of WotC, I might add.
#7
lostat
Jun 24, 2008 15:20:11 When I run KotS with my group, they'll be generating their own characters, not using the pre-gens at all. I know the KotS came out before the core books and so the pre-gens were useful in that regard, but I think part of the fun is designing your own character to play from scratch, just the way you like hir to be.
#8
entropi
Jun 24, 2008 19:24:17 I hope they abandon the folio format and go back to a more conventional module format with cardstock covers, for several reasons:

1. The pockets of the folio open to the inside. This is suboptimal for paper storage. The act of opening and closing it causes the papers, maps, and booklets to slide and get bent and the edges get distressed.

2. The pockets of the folio are constructed such that there are folded over cardboard bits in the pocket, creating an uneven surface. When you slide the paper books or maps into the pocket, they 'catch' that cardboard and get bent or ripped.

3. The folios are expensive to produce. There is a reason that the module costs $30 and does not include cardstock covers for the books. The folio ate up the budget.

I will concede that the folio format does have the advantage of having built-in storage for the tactical maps and module books, as well as character sheets, notes, and any other papers you want to put in them. But I can buy a conventional top-loading folder for a dollar or two that will hold these things without being so hard on them. I'm betting most gamers already have an assortment of folders for just this purpose.

All-in-all, the folio packaging is simply not worth it. The advantages are offset by equal or greater disadvantages.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 aj_the_ronin Jun 19, 2008 17:28:58	1. Will there be previews on the site? 2. Will it include Pre-Gens? 3. The paper quality will be the same used for KotS (H1)?
#2 strand0 Jun 20, 2008 3:22:53	IMHO No. They have not been posting preview on the board here at all. Previews will be/have been posted in the WotC com site.
#3 darkwolf71 Jun 20, 2008 8:02:36	3. The paper quality will be the same used for KotS (H1)? If they don't 'at least' put heavier covers on the booklets, I will be moving exclusivly to 3rd party and homebrew adventures. KotS seems like a great adventure (Finally get to run it this weekend) but the production quality was... poor. (I'd likely be banned if I posted a more accurate opinion.)
#4 the_ubbergeek Jun 21, 2008 1:54:10	Why heavier covers? Beware the hype of third parties, also...
#5 wells Jun 21, 2008 7:52:29	1. Will there be previews on the site? 2. Will it include Pre-Gens? 3. The paper quality will be the same used for KotS (H1)? 1. Not that I know of. 2. Maybe, but you could always use the pre-gens from H1 now that they are level 3. 3. Yes, most likely.
#6 darkwolf71 Jun 21, 2008 14:36:42	Why heavier covers? Beware the hype of third parties, also... Because the covers of the H1 booklets are very fragile and as has been noted by many are prone to smudging... And, beware the hype of WotC, I might add.
#7 lostat Jun 24, 2008 15:20:11	When I run KotS with my group, they'll be generating their own characters, not using the pre-gens at all. I know the KotS came out before the core books and so the pre-gens were useful in that regard, but I think part of the fun is designing your own character to play from scratch, just the way you like hir to be.
#8 entropi Jun 24, 2008 19:24:17	I hope they abandon the folio format and go back to a more conventional module format with cardstock covers, for several reasons: 1. The pockets of the folio open to the inside. This is suboptimal for paper storage. The act of opening and closing it causes the papers, maps, and booklets to slide and get bent and the edges get distressed. 2. The pockets of the folio are constructed such that there are folded over cardboard bits in the pocket, creating an uneven surface. When you slide the paper books or maps into the pocket, they 'catch' that cardboard and get bent or ripped. 3. The folios are expensive to produce. There is a reason that the module costs $30 and does not include cardstock covers for the books. The folio ate up the budget. I will concede that the folio format does have the advantage of having built-in storage for the tactical maps and module books, as well as character sheets, notes, and any other papers you want to put in them. But I can buy a conventional top-loading folder for a dollar or two that will hold these things without being so hard on them. I'm betting most gamers already have an assortment of folders for just this purpose. All-in-all, the folio packaging is simply not worth it. The advantages are offset by equal or greater disadvantages.