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Holy Sunblade

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#1
quidam
Jul 22, 2009 16:43:18 I'm playing an avenger that's going to pick up the Student of Caiphon path and so wants to wield a radiant weapon. The Sunblade from AV is a common choice. I would love, however, to have a weapon that also counts as a divine implement, and there are precious few of those.

I proposed to my DM exchanging the Sunblade's daily power for the ability to use it as an implement. Does this seem like a fair exchange? If not, how would you recommend altering the Sunblade in either capability or level so that it could be used as an implement weapon?
#2
vebrandsson
Jul 22, 2009 17:09:39 What is the base level of the sunblade, if you can raise it by Oh I'd say 2 without throwing off the minimum bonus and adjust the costs accordingly, saying a character can use it as an implement would probably be balanced. I'd have to look into it deeper though I don't know that weapon off hand. However I will say that holy sunblade does sound cool.
#3
quidam
Jul 22, 2009 19:11:05 The Sunblade is level 4 at +1. Adding two would bring it to level 6, the lowest level +2s. Are you suggesting adding two levels in addition to removing the daily power?

How about adding one level and removing the daily power? Then it's a +1 implement weapon that can deal radiant damage and cast light as a level 5 item, on par with Flaming and Lifedrinker.

Does that seem balanced?
#4
vebrandsson
Jul 22, 2009 19:50:16 Well I was suggesting that if you could add 2 levels without effecting the minimum enchantment bonus (which you can't) you could have just added the property with no issue and no need to remove the daily power. I don't know what it's daily power does (I'm looking for my copy of AV now) so I don't know how much balance changing removing the power will do for you. I'll edit this when I know.

Hmm.... If I were DMing I would raise the level by one and drop the damage die for the daily power down to d6 and leave it at that, I don't think that would be too powerful given its fixed to the strength stat for the attack and you're playing an avenger.
#5
Lord_Ventnor
Jul 22, 2009 19:59:24 How about a Crusader's Weapon, also from the AV?

It's an enchantment that only works for Maces and Hammers, but it's currently the only Implement/Weapon that also deals radiant damage.
#6
quidam
Jul 22, 2009 20:11:25 The Crusader's weapon is close and is a good guide for balance. The Sunblade's daily is a burst 1 radiant attack vs Reflex.

Maybe the Sunblade I describe would have to be at least +2.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 quidam Jul 22, 2009 16:43:18	I'm playing an avenger that's going to pick up the Student of Caiphon path and so wants to wield a radiant weapon. The Sunblade from AV is a common choice. I would love, however, to have a weapon that also counts as a divine implement, and there are precious few of those. I proposed to my DM exchanging the Sunblade's daily power for the ability to use it as an implement. Does this seem like a fair exchange? If not, how would you recommend altering the Sunblade in either capability or level so that it could be used as an implement weapon?
#2 vebrandsson Jul 22, 2009 17:09:39	What is the base level of the sunblade, if you can raise it by Oh I'd say 2 without throwing off the minimum bonus and adjust the costs accordingly, saying a character can use it as an implement would probably be balanced. I'd have to look into it deeper though I don't know that weapon off hand. However I will say that holy sunblade does sound cool.
#3 quidam Jul 22, 2009 19:11:05	The Sunblade is level 4 at +1. Adding two would bring it to level 6, the lowest level +2s. Are you suggesting adding two levels in addition to removing the daily power? How about adding one level and removing the daily power? Then it's a +1 implement weapon that can deal radiant damage and cast light as a level 5 item, on par with Flaming and Lifedrinker. Does that seem balanced?
#4 vebrandsson Jul 22, 2009 19:50:16	Well I was suggesting that if you could add 2 levels without effecting the minimum enchantment bonus (which you can't) you could have just added the property with no issue and no need to remove the daily power. I don't know what it's daily power does (I'm looking for my copy of AV now) so I don't know how much balance changing removing the power will do for you. I'll edit this when I know. Hmm.... If I were DMing I would raise the level by one and drop the damage die for the daily power down to d6 and leave it at that, I don't think that would be too powerful given its fixed to the strength stat for the attack and you're playing an avenger.
#5 Lord_Ventnor Jul 22, 2009 19:59:24	How about a Crusader's Weapon, also from the AV? It's an enchantment that only works for Maces and Hammers, but it's currently the only Implement/Weapon that also deals radiant damage.
#6 quidam Jul 22, 2009 20:11:25	The Crusader's weapon is close and is a good guide for balance. The Sunblade's daily is a burst 1 radiant attack vs Reflex. Maybe the Sunblade I describe would have to be at least +2.