how to reshape the twelve stats from Ad&d 2.9E

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#1

uglyvan

Dec 03, 2010 5:11:44

imprecision
muscle (STR)
balance (DEX)


address
aim (DEX)
fitness (CON)


effort
stamina (STR)
health (CON)


interrogation
knowledge (INT)
willpower (WIS)


revelation
intuition (WIS)
leadership (CHA)


seduction
intellect (INT)
appearance (CHA)



Smile
#2

uglyvan

Dec 03, 2010 5:26:41
as usual, I make mistakes

so perhaps it's more like

revelation
intuition (WIS)
appearance (CHA)

and

seduction
intellect (INT)
leadership (CHA)

( the story says I have good intuition but poor appearance and intellect; still I have good leadership and I was thinking of my seduction as mediocre; thanks to leadership it is not)
#3

uglyvan

Dec 03, 2010 6:22:28
three realms of power:

ki (that is, martial)
mana (magics)
chi (divine)

#4

uglyvan

Dec 03, 2010 6:46:28
three data from body reigns:

-digestion
-circulation
-respiration (well, this is chi ===> again one mistake)
#5

uglyvan

Dec 05, 2010 10:58:06
...


you could build a system based on ten classes:

the brute (imprecision:damage/appraising) french impact/jugeotte
the ninja (address:patience/recklessness) french patience/témérité
the teacher (effort:aim/coolness) french objectivité/décontraction
the detective (interrogation:knowledge/willpower)
the ruler (rulership:intuition/leadership)
the craftsman (intellect/appearance)

the jeweller (solid/liquid/gaseous) or your body is a piece of jewellery

the druid (martial/arcane/divine) or what your true nature is

the thief (luck/enthousiasm/merit/ingenuity)

the ranger (strength/truth/constitution/alertness/innocence)
#6

uglyvan

Dec 05, 2010 11:20:07
I also have sorted 15 of the 27 stats:

15 innocence
14 alertness
13 constitution
12 truth
11 strength
10 solidness
 9  liquid:virtuoso (fluency)
 8  divine: the void
 7  arcane: the art of cheating
 6  gaseous: brilliance
 5  ingenuity
 4  merit
 3  martial: the cauldron
 2  enthousiasm
 1  luck

each stat ranges from 1 to 10:

10 god
 9  sponsor
 8  priest
 7  wizard
 6  scholar
 5  master
 4  champion
 3  professional
 2  amateur
 1  novice
#7

uglyvan

Dec 05, 2010 12:00:29
the order of these 15 stats is baszed on buddhism's 4 bits of truth:

8 nirvana
4 work
2 wisdom
1 influence

for example, a champion works all day whereas a master works and is influent; a professional doesn't work but is influent and wise (??)

the four bits can be reshaped as:

8 coolness, means 0-END cost
4 awareness
2 control
1 uncaring

with these defines, we have a professional as controlling his acts and uncaring about them, while unaware of the consequences of his acts.
#8

uglyvan

Dec 15, 2010 14:51:35
...


you could build a system based on ten classes:

the brute (imprecision:damage/appraising) french impact/jugeotte
the ninja (address:patience/recklessness) french patience/témérité
the teacher (effort:aim/coolness) french objectivité/décontraction
the detective (interrogation:knowledge/willpower)
the ruler (rulership:intuition/leadership)
the craftsman (intellect/appearance)

the jeweller (solid/liquid/gaseous) or your body is a piece of jewellery

the druid (martial/arcane/divine) or what your true nature is

the thief (luck/enthousiasm/merit/ingenuity)

the ranger (strength/truth/constitution/alertness/innocence)



the Brute means STR
the Ninja means DEX

another way to re-implement the 12 sub-stats of 2.9E:

STR: Muscle/Leadership
this gives a mixture of Brutes and Generals

DEX: Fitness/Intellect
this should lead to great Acrobats

CON: Aim/Stamina
aim was implemented for the teacher as part of Effort

INT: Knowledge/Willpower
this is for Detectives, but Magic-Users make their inquiry of the unwary (??)

WIS: Balance/Health
balance helps to recover when hit while health maintains a good mental/physical stability (ohff mine spirit certainly warrants for some obscurancy here as always )

CHA: Intuition/Appearance
intuition is the art of manipulating magic items; very useful to Bards therefore; appearance measures how much weight you allocate to items and their shape;

#9

uglyvan

Dec 15, 2010 15:01:34
in order for me to have a sleep well, I plan immediately for a little swap of CON and WIS;

STR: Muscle/Leadership
DEX: Fitness/Intellect
CON: Balance/Stamina
INT: Knowledge/Willpower
WIS: Aim/Health
CHA: Intuition/Appearance

question: could Appearance be replaced with Appraising ?
#10

uglyvan

Dec 15, 2010 20:02:01
werr, just couldn't get to sleep!!

some mistakes to get rid of:

Intuition/Knowledge for a Bard based on CHA
Aim/Willpower for a Magic-User based on INT
Leadership/Health for a Priest based on WIS
Fitness/Intellect for an Acrobat based on DEX
Muscle/Balance for a Fighter based on STR
Appearance/Stamina for a Barbarian based on CON


Ahhh! Great!! For now I feel VERY healthy! Ha Ha Haaa!

so now we have got six classes.
#11

uglyvan

Dec 15, 2010 21:46:56
weow me I think I am a mixture of Cavalier/Monk/Druid/Thief/Ranger/???;

Druid: Appearance/Health
Cavalier: Aim/Fitness
Ranger: Leadership/Intuition
???: Willpower/Muscle
Thief: Stamina/Knowledge
Monk: Balance/Intellect


#12

uglyvan

Jan 12, 2011 11:51:46

werr, just couldn't get to sleep!!

some mistakes to get rid of:

Intuition/Knowledge for a Bard based on CHA
Aim/Willpower for a Magic-User based on INT
Leadership/Health for a Priest based on WIS
Fitness/Intellect for an Acrobat based on DEX
Muscle/Balance for a Fighter based on STR
Appearance/Stamina for a Barbarian based on CON


Ahhh! Great!! For now I feel VERY healthy! Ha Ha Haaa!

so now we have got six classes.



well, the Acrobat isn't a base class from classical DnD; the thief is.

 


Thief: Stamina/Knowledge


Magic-User: Aim/Willpower


Priest: Leadership/Health


Fighter: Muscle/Balance


left: Intuition,Fitness,Intellect,Appearance


well actually a Thief could be shaped using Appearance/Knowledge: I personally call this a spy

(perhaps)

Intuition/Fitness: Paladin
Intellect/Appearance: ??? (seducer/courtier)