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#1 jh71595 Apr 22, 2013 12:24:05	Currently I am working on a project, that is essentially going to be what pathfinder was to 4e. The only problem that i am having is working out a spell system. I like 4e's system as opposed to 3e's because each class gets their own set of powers, not just the magic classes. The main thing that i see as lacking in 4e's system is that there are few out of combat spells, such as create water, or dancing lights, and those that are were made into rituals.  I would prefer to modify 4e's spell system, but i want it to be different enough so that it is not a direct rip -off. Could anyone provide suggestions as to how i could make it distinct, or even give input as to what you like about 4e and 3e so i can get ideas as to what people find to be good, and bad. Any input is welcomed, Thank You!
#2 whipmaster Apr 24, 2013 15:48:20	What's stopping you from simply using 4e adding those spells in as options? If you feel like an at-will Create Water spell isn't worthy, maybe couple it with a handful of others like Mage Hand and Prestidigitation, or however many/few you think balances well. IMHO (and trust me, I realize that this isn't the place to debate it) 4e doesn't have many out of combat spells because the system is geared toward grid-based combat and not much else.