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Is Improved Defenses a Math Patch?

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#1
jack_of_all_trades_02
Feb 22, 2011 18:00:43 Is Improved Defenses a Math Patch and or a Feat Tax? Unlike the Expertise feats, I'm having a really hard time deciding if I should give this away for free. I need some consensus.
#2
Eisenritter
Feb 22, 2011 18:07:21 Yes, it is.
#3
jack_of_all_trades_02
Feb 22, 2011 18:08:56 I forgot to add what is the best level give it away to the players?
#4
Eisenritter
Feb 22, 2011 18:09:25 5/15/25, as with Expertise.
#5
jack_of_all_trades_02
Feb 22, 2011 18:25:01
5/15/25, as with Expertise.

This is exactly how I remembered it. I was hopeful that they would've changed monster defenses with the release of MM3, Dark Sun, and Monster Vault. This news both saddens and elates me, as it's easy to fix.

Does anybody disagree with Eisenritter here?
#6
tequila_sunrise
Feb 22, 2011 18:29:59 Yeah it's a feat tax. I'd go ahead and give it at level 1, as it scales up at 11/21 rather than 15/25. When you give it away isn't a deal breaker though, so long as it is given.
#7
ferdil
Feb 28, 2011 10:59:45 Also Master at Arms is a feat tax. I'd give it away at first level, too. If someone wants the extra fancy effects, they can take the appropriate Expertise feat.
#8
tequila_sunrise
Feb 28, 2011 15:22:44 What does Master at Arms do, and what book is it in? Never heard that one called a feat tax.
#9
alitain
Mar 01, 2011 17:48:53
Is Improved Defenses a Math Patch and or a Feat Tax? Unlike the Expertise feats, I'm having a really hard time deciding if I should give this away for free. I need some consensus.

It's a feat. Players can play with/without it. I have and got along fine enough, no biggie. There's no reason to give players this feat for free. If they want higher defenses, let them select it as a feat choice themselves.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 jack_of_all_trades_02 Feb 22, 2011 18:00:43	Is Improved Defenses a Math Patch and or a Feat Tax? Unlike the Expertise feats, I'm having a really hard time deciding if I should give this away for free. I need some consensus.
#2 Eisenritter Feb 22, 2011 18:07:21	Yes, it is.
#3 jack_of_all_trades_02 Feb 22, 2011 18:08:56	I forgot to add what is the best level give it away to the players?
#4 Eisenritter Feb 22, 2011 18:09:25	5/15/25, as with Expertise.
#5 jack_of_all_trades_02 Feb 22, 2011 18:25:01	5/15/25, as with Expertise. This is exactly how I remembered it. I was hopeful that they would've changed monster defenses with the release of MM3, Dark Sun, and Monster Vault. This news both saddens and elates me, as it's easy to fix. Does anybody disagree with Eisenritter here?
#6 tequila_sunrise Feb 22, 2011 18:29:59	Yeah it's a feat tax. I'd go ahead and give it at level 1, as it scales up at 11/21 rather than 15/25. When you give it away isn't a deal breaker though, so long as it is given.
#7 ferdil Feb 28, 2011 10:59:45	Also Master at Arms is a feat tax. I'd give it away at first level, too. If someone wants the extra fancy effects, they can take the appropriate Expertise feat.
#8 tequila_sunrise Feb 28, 2011 15:22:44	What does Master at Arms do, and what book is it in? Never heard that one called a feat tax.
#9 alitain Mar 01, 2011 17:48:53	Is Improved Defenses a Math Patch and or a Feat Tax? Unlike the Expertise feats, I'm having a really hard time deciding if I should give this away for free. I need some consensus. It's a feat. Players can play with/without it. I have and got along fine enough, no biggie. There's no reason to give players this feat for free. If they want higher defenses, let them select it as a feat choice themselves.