"Lords of Creation” is one of the most addictive forum games you’ll ever encounter. You might recall one of the earlier versions, played on these boards and the 3.5 boards. If you saw it and wanted to join but the collective history was too daunting, fear not; now is your chance. This is a play-by-post cooperative world-building game in which the players take on the role of gods, with the full powers and influence thereof. The goal of this is to produce a campaign world complete with history, pantheon, geography, races, creatures, and anything you could possibly imagine. One of the best elements is that the world is entirely organic; ancient wars, cultural growth, and divine conflicts are actually the result of warring interests, rather than being pulled whole cloth from a single person’s imagination. This provides diversity that you just can’t find anywhere else. And of course, we have a LOT of fun along the way. To facilitate play and later use, we also have a wikia where game information (such as homebrew races, maps, classes, etc) will be posted: lordsofcreation.wikia.com
You can find the basic rules here: lordsofcreation.wikia.com/wiki/Basic_Rul...
And we also ask that you read these basic guidelines: lordsofcreation.wikia.com/wiki/Guideline...
Currently the Admins (and their gods) of the game are:
ff6shadow: Veros
Wyld Mutation: Xirinet (Inactive IC, still admining)
Topheh: Nixis
Currently the Players (and their gods) of the game are:
Mechalibur: Shurka
Angelofthenight: Vymrl
Nerdzul: Hensen Jijou
Tinwe: Hammu
Chapien: Azor'Chapien
AnubisDread: Chroma
XiahouXhu: Starl
Graxith : Honissia
Kiptar:Ekluag
Xeadin: Torvek
Aradeia: The Empress
Moondoggy: Ythrexle
Inactive Players Not having posted in 4 turns will place you on this list. If you have found yourself on this list, you will no longer be included on the turn reset for PP. Simply PM me of your return, and resume play as normal. You will return to the active list as soon as I see you posting again.
Aldii: Eijra
MassiveAttack: Mara
Shinobicow: Il'tharas
wizdude47: Frellisk
The_Orius: Oravalos
Delfedd: Chactross
MatthewSwift: Neko
Novatack: Nocturne
Mostly Ghostly: Oreb Nahash
Voodooguy: Ka
Half_Dragon_Infernal: Runescar
GrimPoet: Siccadan
Malltrick: Roan
RUMPLESTIX: Ipsur
Camu: Tsarokga-Noggoth
Lord Mephistopheles: Jormundrasil
Ritreaude: Drahthor
Live-Laugh-Love: Sessilee
IncarnationsEnd: Incarnations End
Dead Gods These are the gods that have died for one reason or another. They are incapable of returning without the original player agreeing, as well as passing it by an admin.
Thought: Xa'an
Space_Dragon: Thans
Sinasilver: Yoglith
Aldii: Zophia
Retired Players These are players who have been forced to quit for one reason or another. Their gods may or may not return to active play.
Armisael: Cygnus
Ganryu: The Void
If you are interested in playing, please post your interest in this thread here and PM one (or more) of the admins. We'll let you know when you can post in the IC thread. Please use the following format:
Name:
Domains:
Physical Appearance:
Symbol:
To note, every god starts off with 3pp worth of domains. This might be one Greater domain or several Lesser domains. Those listed on the Wikia are only suggested domains; feel free to come up with your own. The game will begin as soon as we have enough player interest. So let’s get creating!
Waiting List:
Anyway...
Yay! LoC is back up! FOR REALZ!
Think we should start a LoC 3 Development Thread?/
Then waiting list is where we keep players waiting to join the game. It was more important early on, when we were holding back and not letting everybody flood too fast.
Didn't this get asked to get moved to the PbP Haven?
No, it got RECOMMENDED to the PbP Haven.
On another subject, a random events table, maybe activated once a month, could be interesting? Events such as Great Famine, all societies with agriculture as a tech have a 1PP denourish, or Holy Empowerment, all good aligned gods get 1PP bonus for one turn. What do you think?
In other news. I am going to be very sparse in the coming future. Tommorow only a bit, and then Thursday-Saturday I am moving half way round the world. It may be a few more days until I check in. Not quitting, but will be "away" If you need Mara for anything, please PM me a notice and maybe a quick summary or what not so I don't miss it.
Unfortunately I will likely not be able to do much with the Ae-Sylvani-Gnome thing, yet, since that would put myself in a highly disadvantageous position.
Maybe we should report the partial resoults and the vote post here.
Okay. Then lets do this publicly and clearly. It seems like a lot of people are wanting to restart, but lets hammer that out a bit more. Here is the 'official' poll
Two questions.
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1) Do you want to restart now or in the near future?
2) Regardless of what you answered above, were we to restart, when would you like to restart? (immediately, one week, one month...)
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Once we do decide when we're gonna restart, we should talk about a number of issues including how we pick admins, what the process is for disputing rulings, things like that.
Current Votes (check the ad Interim Post)
Against: Shadow, Topheh.
Pro: Nerdzul, Chapien, Ekluag, Angelofnight, Aldii
Neutral: Mechalibur
Goodbye ppl and have fun :p
Tinwe--who is this girl calling out for Mara? I have no idea...
Hammu's been messing with your river for 2 resets now, thinking about breaking it in retribution for you breaking Beacon.
Aldii, can we not shrink the inner world?
You can always try to fight the changes she has made in game, but the chances are the she will just continue with her general destruction until she is taken down.
For the LoC III, I'm thinking about a few greater planes of existence as Base planes to install the lesser planes for the gods for when we do start over.
(The original list was in the Interim Thread, so this list has been revised)
Far Realms: A place of utter mystery, the Far Realms has a thick atmosphere of chaotic energies that morphs the land and changes the physical bodies of organic matter into abberant, unknown forms. The Far Realms is an apparent wasteland of constantly shifting and morphing structures and lifeforms. Mortal beings subject into the grey wastes of the Far Realms may experience periods of time subdued into a weightless space in one moment, then fall facedown onto earthen rock the next. Mortals may also experience small amounts of Corporeal Instability, until they get out of the Far Realms. Gods that exsist within the Far Realms are keepers of great lore, but are often hard to reach, since the extraterrestrial lands of the Far Realms hinders traffic greatly.
Astral Sea: The dominion of the divine outposts, the Astral Sea is the main Hub plane of most of the gods that pursue creation and destruction. Dozens of dominions float along the wave-like energies that supplies the powers needed to sustain the mortal worlds below. Besides being gods within the Astral Sea, there are also small communities of Githyanki Pirates that litter through the waves. The Astral Skiffs the Githyanki ride are a common sight around the dominions, but they are a threat to the mortals that travel through the Astral Sea. Angels also litter the many dominions of the Astral Sea as divine guardians and servitors to the great Gods of the plane.
Elemental Chaos: A place pf birth and death, the Elemental Chaos is home to some of the most magnificent and devestating Primordials that have walked across the mortal lands. The elemental Chaos is a constant sea of the raging elements that make up the Chaos- Air, Earth, Fire, and Water. Gopds that live within the Elemental Chaos are usually the keepers of these powerful elemental energies, so they possess great lore on their homeland. Mortals may have a hard time travelling through the Elemental Chaos- especially when the land masses explode into the different elemental powers.
Feywild Frontier: The Feywild Frontier is a hospitable plane for mortals as well as gods who pursue both Arcane and Divine arts. Essentially, lots of things can live in the frontier. Wild hunters like the Gnolls and the Orcs run rampid through the thick jungles of the main frontier, while vast bodies of water surrounds the edge of the sand- laiden shorelines. Titanic mountains rise above the bulk of the mainland, casting forboding shadows among most of the inhabitants that live in the jungles and prairies.
Shadowfell: The land shrouded in death and undeath, the Shadowfell posesses great dangers to many who lurk within the tunnels of the Shadowfell. Up above, mysterious twilight zones warp time and bring about an aura of fear, as Necromantic energies surge through the wastes. Vast number of undead figures stalk the land, hunting for the living when their souls had been destroyed by forces that have haunted them since their time of death. The stronger creatures live closer to the center of the Shadowfell, where most of the gods who pursue the undeath glories lay in wait.
Whitelands: Huge blizzards ravage this plane, as the Whitelands conquer most of this scarce plane. Very few mortals can survive in these harsh conditions, as mounting winds and subzero temperatures create monstrous amounts of snow too deep for foot travel. There are few places where mortals can live in- small refuges that provide excellent shelter for travellers that had got caught within the Whitelands. Winter wolves scourge the Whitelands in search of food. Few gods have found the Whitelands as their home, but there are some present and they change the climate to where they see fit.
The Great Maw: A huge sinkhole lined with buildings and cities, the Great Maw is home to some of the best flyers ever known to existence. Even though the Great Maw doesn't seem like a good place to stay, the construction of some of the cities are very unique and they offer easy transportation to other cities and to the surface area above the Great Maw. Many gods who end up here find this to be a good home of opportunity and they see to it that the Great Maw stays in existence for years to come.
Skyway River: This celestial river of energy links all of the Greater and Lesser Planes together. The planes are not all connected, but the Skyway River leads travellers to their destination by use of Celestial Airboats. Gods most often use this to get to other planes of existence. Planes not connected to the Skyway River are thus harder to reach but not impossible to get to.
Hammu's been messing with your river for 2 resets now, thinking about breaking it in retribution for you breaking Beacon.
I am aware of what you did to the river and then how you used it (though really didn't affect it the second time).
I'm just wonder if you want a response, who this girl is....
That would be a huge deviation from both the history and spirit of the LoC games, which are primarially about creating ANYTHING you can imagine, rather than working within a framework of planes that already exist. We can talk about it more in the planning thread for the next game... but I for one think that we don't need those sort of restrictions.
Xeadin,
That would be a huge deviation from both the history and spirit of the LoC games, which are primarially about creating ANYTHING you can imagine, rather than working within a framework of planes that already exist. We can talk about it more in the planning thread for the next game... but I for one think that we don't need those sort of restrictions.
True- It was just a thought. I was thinking to myself the other day on how would anyone be able to live in a space of nothingness when they first start to play the LoC. I wasn't even thinking about restrictions when I was doing that, so thanks for the reminder. Plus, I've got this HUGE library of different planes and worlds just swirling through my head right now.
Question- did somebody create the Skyway River, or is that an important piece to the LoC?
In any case, I'm all ears for a new LoC III. :D
Aradeia
If we were to switch from LoC 2 to LoC 3, would we be able to keep our current characters- just starting from scratch?
Well, time to think of another character then! ...maybe...
I want to be able to keep Corelloth in, because I'm doing this campaign in D&D where Corelloth is up to no good in the country that I have created. The LoC is kind of a backstory for what is happening when Torvek, Dolestre, and Corelloth are not around Anorbus. Sounds kind of weird, but... I pulled it off somehow, by using my imagination! :D
Xeadin: Everything has been created from scratch. Mara created the skyway river a few months ago.
Was that when the LoC first started to take off on the WotC Forums? I was told to have my Lesser plane to be connected to the Skyway River, or else I had to pay an extra 1pp to create the plane if it wasn't.
I hope I wasn't misunderstanding anything...
Your still welcome to participate in this one if you wish. You would have your usual 6PP
Okay then, sounds good. I'll just have to wait until my life settles down a bit first, but then I'm good.
Aradeia
Xeadin,
There have now been two LoC games. Both started from scratch, with absolutely nothing created but an empty and formless prime plane. From there, players have created each and every thing that affects people in the game. The skyway river is an artifact, much like your chakram, just with some special triggers worked into it so that it spends its PP automatically to make creating a plane not attached to it harder. There's another artifact that does a similar thing, but it makes creating bodies of land in the Aether harder... which is one of the reasons that I've been working so hard to find alternate ways of settling the place (back of a turtle, on a pre-existing rock, on giant amoebas... none of it 'new land'... (heh... I wonder if Massive is annoyed at my trickery and thats why she's killing my people off
)When the next LoC starts, there will be no skyway river, no inner and outer worlds, no sun, no moons, no stars, no Astral Sea, no Humites, no Imperium, no Dragons, no Library, no Noth... there will just be the void, waiting for us to fill it. In this LoC, the void even became a god for a little while, which made things even more interesting. Take a read of the first couple pages of this LoC to get a feel for what the start of the game will look like. While I'm sad to see this version go, I *am* looking forward to the opportunities the next will allow.
It's been a while and I just started checking the forums again. Good to see the game progressed so much.
I was considering to join again, but seeing that the game is running to an end and plans are made for a new one, I might pass and just wait.
Camu
We're missing Ritreaude- he hasn't been on for quite a while...
So, Corelloth is planning something nasty- I think that she might be executing her plan to destroy a plane...
We still don't know which Plane she is targeting...
The bomb she had placed won't destroy Azora, but rather scorch a small part of the island. In place, a huge column of flame will rise up like a pllar to the Skyway River. Something tells me that she may be up to no good...
It takes 1pp to disarm the flame for a day, but immediately rearms after a day has passed. When the flame does go off, it then takes 3pp to extinguish the pillar.
The Mournelord himself, bound and entombed, but able to project his mind and image.
A large number of vampires, it would appear headed by Iyelle. They've created a fortress around the center of the old city to protect the physical form of the Mournelord.
Shadowspawn and FleshPuppetts, as Mecha has created.
My skull swarm... which I should probably turn insubstansial... seeing that they are ghosts...
And my generic 'various forms of undead' that have moved in.
My initial idea of Old Terena was to have it be a single adventure in the mid paragon tier, where characters would venture into the opened city of the dead, fight their way to the Mournelord's chamber, and rip the amulet of Life... or whatever I called it, from his chest, killing him and leaving the rest of the undead leaderless.
At this point, if there is interest among three of us, we could expand it into a location that could support a series of adventures... roaming into the bizzare opening that has been discovered, fighting off a zombie hoard in the streets of Terena, learning more about the threat, killing Iyelle and finally the original adventure to finish off the Mournelord.
Angel, Mecha... by all means help! For one of you its your original city, for the other, its one of your creations that is forming the big bad. When we're done... I think I'll actually write it up into an adventure and we'll play through it.
Xeadin, in order for that flame to have that property, you will need to spend that amount of PP to create it.
How much PP does an Exarch have, then? Torvek did not create it.
As it stands right now, any one of us could snap his fingers and make the bomb dissapear, or that gateway you have earlier, or the primordials that don't exist yet. PP is what makes things go from fluff and illusion to reality in the game, and is expended by the player to actuate that effect.
In order for your artifact to operate as you desire, it would have to look like the following.
It would be a 3 PP artifact, that provides 1 PP denourish (the pillar of flame) that is automatically expended each turn unless another god spends 1 PP to deactivate the device for the turn. Destroying the artifact permanantly would be 3 PP, the same cost as it took to create it in the first place.
Once again, I urge you to read over the rules on the wiki: lordsofcreation.wikia.com . It will tell you much of what you need to know.
The mechanics of the LoC on spending PP is not detailed enough or is confusing in the Wiki...
In the next LoC, we should probably work on defining the rules for spending PP more clearly for newcomers to know what to do, instead of making fluff up. I'm having a hard time searching for what I need on the Wiki.
[EDIT]: Okay- a second glance pieces a lot of things together now- Exarches have 1pp, but they can use your pp as well...
Hmm.
Torvek's gonna have a hard time with Corelloth now...Wait! If they can use your character's pp, then can they use that for their Combat Bonus?
... Or is that a misunderstanding?
Anyway, welcome back Meph (I like to shorten everyone's names to 1 or 2 syllables) nice to see you haven't vanished
I'm working on stats for Iyelle. Could you post the LoC version of the vampire template for me, Shadow. Or is it the same as in the DMG?
I think the rules on the wiki are fairly straightforward. I don't think many other people have had too many problems with the rules.
Well, I'm still trying to get used to the whole PP expenditure thing- That's the only thing that I'm having some trouble with- but I think I'm starting to figure it out.
That's always good to hear. (Sorry if I'm sounding mean or anything. I can do that a lot)
No biggie.
I do have the DMG and the PHB for 4th, and if you all would be willing to help me with monster creation I'd be happy to do it. I really do need to convert. :P
To be honest, I still havn't really made the transition to 4th ed. My group and I still game in 3.5 so...
I do have the DMG and the PHB for 4th, and if you all would be willing to help me with monster creation I'd be happy to do it. I really do need to convert. :P
I can accomodate with that, AngeloftheNight.
EDIT: Here's my first ever 4E attempt at a monster. I created one of the Fast Zombies that Vymrl made during the Humite Wars.
Behold, and let the criticism flow! lol
Alright sounds good.
EDIT: Here's my first ever 4E attempt at a monster. I created one of the Fast Zombies that Vymrl made during the Humite Wars.
Behold, and let the criticism flow! lol
Monster base stats look good, although the powers seem fairly overpowered. I'd either switch it to be something bigger than a level 1, or drastically cut down on the number and strength of the powers (average damage per hit is ~9, which at level one will knock off mebbe 1/3 of a players HP in one go... 1/2 off of a wizard with a low constitution score (8) and with the double slam, we're talking almost one-round kills.
drop the damage dice down to d4s or something, or a constant number... that way you can do two and it wont be deadly. I like the two attacks for a fast zombie... and if you want to keep it at level 1... get rid of the rest of the powers
Actually, looking at the powers... I'm just gonna say you didn't change them from some other enemy... otherwise it wouldn't reanimate to 105 HP ;)
Megabyter,
Here would be the place to post your god's intro block. At the moment... the future of the game is up in the air, but if you wanted to get a flavor of how the game is played, you'd be welcome to start playing now... just be aware that odds are you won't be able to get much done before we restart.
Then again, I'm not sure if vampires in this game are different than the template in the DMG.
While both of those powers should still be in, feel free to cut them if you need too. It may be that she simply never chooses to use them, or is unique in her inability to.
Actually the template doesn't give second wind. It just appears on the MM vampires.
Also, wizards almost always have 8 STR, not 8 CN.
EDIT: Updated Beastie (This is the only part of the creature I meant to create, the other thing was something I grabbed off of the Monster boards, just copy and pasting ideas over the original powers. This is what I have now, with suggestions from others incorporated.
Alright, this is gonna show, more than it already does, that I havn't fully read the DMG but... I thought Skirmesher monsters were fast and heavy hitters? I'm trying to create a monster that is easy to kill, but does a lot of damage and attacks in mobs.
EDIT: Updated Beastie (This is the only part of the creature I meant to create, the other thing was something I grabbed off of the Monster boards, just copy and pasting ideas over the original powers. This is all I have written right now.
It's getting late, so...
I'm putting the computer in Hibernation mode.
See you all tomorrow! :D
I like it, although I think making it a level 3 or so would make it a lot more versatile. *nods*
Ekulag, I completely missed it. Going to go find it and reply now.
Edit: I can't find the original post in the interim thread. Are these warforged? (I may be blind)
First, havcing them migrate, form a nation, and worship you is 3PP, not 2.
And opening trade relations requires a guide, or MS interaction to that effect. Not nourishes.
One final technicality. I beleive the Drahkorn are stranded in their home. The artifact which gave them access to the world opens on Drahthor's will. Without him directing it, they have no way to go back and forth.
Alright, I'll change the Fast Zombie to skirmisher. Any more word on creating a game based in Terena?
BTW, I'm totally in for that Terena game.
Iyelle, Level 16 controller (leader) elite
4 Flesh Puppets, Level 12 minion
2 Shadowspawn, Level 13 lurker.
The encounter could take place in a lab where a half-dissected gnome is on a rack. Two dead humites with bloody wounds all over are hanging from hooks. Alchemical materials line the walls. To make the encounter interesting, there could also be a death wisp in a jar (which would actually help PCs since death wisps won't help the undead.
Of course it would be up to the DM. Whoever is up for DMing
Topheh, could you give me some information on the Mournelord. Like what exactly he is capable of, and his goals?
With the boards going down, it might be a good time for everyone to take a good hard look at the game while its not... there... and think about things you want to change. Come up with a few constructive suggestions, and then when the boards return, or even sooner (I'm thinking we can have some sort of IRC chat or start a thread on another forum somewhere) we can start sitting down and working on the rules for the next game without the time pressure of wanting to get a rough set of rules out so we can start playing and then realizing a few months in that the issues we wanted to address were, well... handled badly.
Mecha, I'll be DMing. I'm already starting to form the adventures in my head... I just have to write them all down. I hope it works
I'll of course take encounters from other people... less work for me is awesome. At the moment, due to the richness of Terena, I'm hoping to get at least 4 separate adventures out of it... perhaps more, depending on how creative I am the week we're off. As for the Mournelord... motivation is easy. He's ****** and wants revenge. He just really wants to bring New Terena down with him, burning and doomed like before, although finding a way to restore his own body would be nice, seeing that he does currently possess an artifact that is granting him eternal, if tormented, life. As for physical stats and capabilities... Well, some of this will have to do with what a normal Mournelord can do... which is sorta what I'm hoping Angel will be able to tell us, but at the moment... he has strong psychic abilities, forcibly willing an avatar of himself to appear and give commands... he can reach out and touch the minds of those in the city... and he's clearly scary enough that the vampires haven't tried to kill him... at least not yet.
Also, I will be gone on a vacation from monday to the second tuesday (25), so I will miss the Downtime and the start of whatever comes next.
Tinwe, still have about thirty minutes from the reset. Can you not guide the Ilithids into the well? I was hoping tokeep them seperate, giving the well some underground competition.
Hey shadow.. sorry, just saw this. I didn't guide all Illithid into The Well- just some of them. What would you say to including a few Rakshasa from The Well in your "underground competition"? A little factionalization might make for good plot hooks later.
Slight problem with your post. Old Terena is literally underneath New Terena, so there are no 'ruins' to speak of, at least that people know about. For all the Terenans know, Old Terena is completely buried beneath them, although instead it lives on in a pale, undead shadow of itself underneath a hardened dome upon which New Terena sits. There's also no really good way to get into Old Terena... although somehow those crazy undead keep getting in. If the people living directly above the seething pit of undead don't know about it (The Mournelorde is being very careful), I find it somewhat hard to believe that the Warforged have gotten enough wind of it to actually pinpoint the location and find entrances
So... yeah... either your post will need to be modified, or you're gonna have some very confused humites wondering why the warforged want to poke around in their basements. :D Not to say that you can't have them poking around in their basements... I'd say to have them start killing off undead making their way to Old Terena, rather than killing off the ones in the city itself. Perhaps you could find the well-hidden tunnels that they are using into the city, and that could be a starting point for adventure!
Edit: Actually, no. If you could have them poking around in the Terenan's basements, that would be awesome. Shadow's already volunteered an excellent end to the adventures, and the Warforged will create a lovely lead-in.
An Aside: Thanks everyone for contributing to Old Terena. I find it awesome as well
Inspector: "We're sorry ma'am, but you appear to have an undead infestation in your basement. We are truly sorry, but you will have to evacuate the premises immediately, so that these undead can be captured and tortured...er...experimented, no, no, released into the wild. If you would show the way..."
EDIT: Changed it.
Who are the Exemplars of Insanity? I have no record of such an organization existing.
Second, you have already spawned Quells, 6 turns ago. I notice you intend to stat them up, and I'm going to throw this out there for you. 4th edition design does not target individual power sources with penalties. There are no anti-magic effects, and a quell's primary ability was to cut off divine casting, something that is an inappropriate design. You may be able to find a flavorful way to mimic it without specifically targetting divine sourced powers, but I just wanted to toss that out there.
Convincer was filled in on the atrocities that had occured here. Bending his head in grief, he bade the Imperium escorts to leave the city, telling them that the rest of the allies' army was nearly there, and they might not be able to separate in their minds their feelings for the one who did this and those still standing here over him. As they left, he took up his staff, and raised it above his head before slamming it to the ground, right next to the Mournelord's face. Earth immediately began covering the ruins of the city, rising higher and higher until under Eorna's still gleaming branches, a hill of dirt was all that could be seen.
Regardless, the important part is that the undead are all underground, ruins or no (Mecha, if you want some ruins to have been carried by the dirt upwards in the center of town, thats just fine by me.)
Ekluag, you'll see where I go with the basement inspectors ;) (Also, replied in MS)
As for the Quells... the Divine-specific effects don't exist yet, but I could imagine a way to make it work for a bunch of undead. Create an aura around each Quell that protects undead in the vicinity from the effects of turn/rebuke undead... that being the general reason why divine classes are so scary for the undead.
EDIT: The Exemplars of Insanity are the inhabitants of the city-state Sarakesh, I've referred to them as Sarakesh before in the PP expenditures, I apologize for my lack of clarity.
http://sites.google.com/site/ddivclchat/
in room #LoC (type /join #LoC to join the room). I'll try and be on fairly frequently.
Well, I'll be checking that out when I can.
how many people are interested in the Terena campaign? I want to know how big to make the encounters.
Also, I've been playing around a bit with the Mournelorde himself. How does this look to people?
; Ranged; +27 vs. Will; (); 1d6 + 8 Psychic Damage and Dazed (save ends)
Anyway what have I missed in these days?
Joined the chat as Nerdzul btw.
Welcome back Camu btw ;)
Are we beginning a play by post in the old Terena btw? Can I join?
I mean, you didn't think that the Mournelord would be just some normal foe, did you?
He'll probably end up around level 21... we'll see.
So, so far interested:
Shadow
Nerdul
Tinwe
Mecha
Angel
Assuming the boards are back when they plan on it, next reset will occur on August 26th, resuming the normal schedule on August 29th.
I've joined the chat as moondoggy, and she has joined as desiarjan.
I'd love to join- I just need a little heads up.
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I'm just taking a wild hunch here- 90 squares shaded in? ... Including the partly shaded squares, of course...
Else, it would just be 72 shaded squares out of 400 total squares.
So, if that square takes up that much, then what are you left with? 328 unshaded squares!
(Or 310 squares...)Math and logics are awesome!!! :D
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Or...
F 5, 13; O 5, 13; -or- G 5, 13; N 5, 13 (Corners)
Good night everyone, and let's plan this new thing out while the forums are down.
I joined the chat thing under Aradeia.
There are problems with your post. I'm gonna point them out as we go.
Both Torvek and Dolestre fly through the Skyway River, and onto Azora, where Corelloth sits in wait.
~Okay, Azora is an island, and the Skyway river is nowhere near it. Its a part of the river on the main continent. It certainly is not in the sky.thisisfine
"Aha! I've been waiting for this moment..." She smirks, as Torvek and Dolestre land on the island with a thud- wepons on hand.
"Now we can end this little game of charades!" Torvek smiles, as he rears to attack.
"Not so fast, darling!" Corelloth pulls an unusual move, and with a quick flick of her wrist, a spark of purple lightning shoots out- straight a Torvek. It hits it mark, and saps his powers. "You didn't expect that now, did you?"
Torvek falls over, weakened from the attack. "Torvek!"
First, the underdark has never been cared out that far south. It's under the main continent, and Nerdzul expanded it under his archipelago. Nobody ever extended all the way into the deep south.
Second, you cannot take the Land Spike from the Empress. She is not a dead god, he player is simply inactive. That means she is not making world changing events. That does not mean you can walk up to them and take their artifacts.
Welcome back everyone! We've had a lot of interesting talk over the break about what we want to do with LoC3. Look for a thread coming up in the next day or so where we'll start hammering all that stuff out... there's a lot to talk about.
Join us in the chat (link posted in one of my posts above) until and after then. We've found it to be a great way to get to know each other better.
Oh, also. I've created a group for us. Come and join
Yey,
finally the forums are up again, btw I think that a part from LoC 3 we should also work out a nice finale for LoC 2.
Just abandoning it would feel silly in my humble opinion hehe.
This new format is pissing me off. Anyway, I fully agree with an epic ending, any ideas?
test
BIG TEST
Tiny Test
Huh... this is a new format...
Anyways, I think that we would need some kind of ending to lead into LoC 3...
And I think I have the perfect villian... 
Head'sup for anyone wondering or worrying. Refresh will not occur until Saturday.
The forums are back
Hmm..personally I think it would be best to leave the world in an exciting state. Not on the brink of destruction neccesarilly but still.something should happen.
Yay, my internet is back when the forums aren't down! And.. the game is ending when I do. Oh bitter irony 
Heh heh, just kidding, I would have been one of the people to suggest starting again 
Anyway, not sure if I should jump back in if things are drawing to a close.. aside from creating another three types of Scourge dragons there's nothing in particular I have left to do... aside from maybe making the genasi a bustling mercantile nation, but that might bustle with the idea of Ardune being a savage land.
Anyway, as for the big finale, I'm not sure if it has to be particularily big... I mean, the idea is to create a world for players to adventure in, and usually all the big crisises happen significantly before the default time for campaigning... then again, considering how quickly time moves, that might be a mute point 
Hey, we've still got a couple weeks. No quitting on us yet!
Heh, true, guess I'll have to look back through what's happened in the IC after all It would be nice to finish off the Scourge dragons anyway... still need to do War, Famine and Death. Cookie for first person who gets the reference
Four Horseman of the Apolcalypse. Now give me my cookie.
Right you are . The four dragons of the apocalypse may sound a little corny, but I couldn't resist. Unfortunately, the new forums lay out took all the cookes away Will you accept a 'IOU 1 Cookie' voucher?
About the finale it should not be an explosion. But something that change the nature of the world somehow. And simbolize the fact that divine influence does not reshape the world constantly anymore...
Like the gods being banished away, or just deciding not to interefere anymore directly with the mortals.
For Kiptar, he will basically spread his divine essence into all of the Iron State, so that he no longer exists, but that they all have the guiding spark to help them carry on. Seemed nice to me.
Bah, new fangled forums. Why, in my day we communicated by carrier pigeons.
Anywho, I'm quite glad to see that the games still going (and excited to see that it will end by common consent, rather than petering out like the other... 3?)
While I'd love to get in on the next incarnation from the start, I doubt my schedule will allow it (part of the reason I had to quit being an admin, back in the day). However, I do have a passion for gaming system design and would love to offer perspectives as appropriate.
All that aside, I must say, major kudos to everyone; the game looks fantastic.
Heya tought, nice to see you back around here ;)
I think that we will make a LoC 3 rules discussion post soon enough (maybe in the Lord of Creation group, btw ask Topheh for an invite there). Any help would be quite useful :p
And you're in.
As for the new LoC rules hashing... I'm thinking of having those in the group forum... that way we can split each topic into a separate thread and hash things out in paralell instead of in sequence. What do people think?
I agree with you topheh
Four Horseman of the Apolcalypse. Now give me my cookie.
Whoah. They capitalized your name. How could they?
Huh. Well it's good the forums are back. My avatar must have died... as well as many emoticons.
Edit: That's weird. Why does it say I'm a D&D Insider?
Name: Ashralan
Domain: Ocean, Sharks,
Physical Appearance: A large male sahuagin riding a golden shark.
Symbol: A golden shark tooth.
I'm not sure if that is to many domains or not enough. Please feel free to change this but I would like to keep a bit of shark/ocean flavor. Sahuagin is a domain that I made up. It's lesser.
Hi Aboleth11, welcome to the game!
Yeah, Those are a few too many domains. Water would be a greater domain already (so 3PP already)... Oceans would be moderate (2) and sharks and sahuguin would both be lesser (1). So thats... 7 Starting domain PP and you're limited to 3 for free. My advice would be to get rid of water, take oceans and one of the lesser, and then spend one of your first 6 PP claiming the other lesser domain.
Also, another note... we're winding down this Lords of Creation at the moment, and it has maybe another 2 or three weeks left in it. If you want to join now, you're more than welcome, just be aware that your god won't really be able to get very far off the ground. LoC3 should be starting soon after this one finishes, though... and then we'll all be new godlings in the big world
Mecha: No idea. You sure you didn't subscribe and forget about it?
Ok I'll take Ocean and Sharks
How do I get started?
I'll let shadow know that you're joining and he'll include you in this saturday's reset. At that point, you're free to begin however you see fit.
I'm going to need a lot of help.
Well, why don't you come hang out with us at
sites.google.com/site/ddivclchat/
in room #LoC (type "/join #LoC" from the main room you first enter to get there). There are often a few old-timers in there who are more than willing to help.
Hmm, why is Torvek on the inactive list?
Easy. He went inactive for two weeks, and I haven'tmoved him back to the active list. I'll be updating it shortly.
mmm, for some reason I have being banned from the chat permanently... I have done nothing to violate the terms of agreement so I have sent them an email asking for reasons. Meanwhile I'll only be able to post here.
Shall we move to another free chat btw? (or maybe even wizard one)
I've been getting error messages from it since last night. I can only assume it's some sort of glitch in the system.
Ekluag, after some difficulties that came out of secret projects earlier, could you please PM me or Topheh with exactly what your artifacts do?
I've been getting error messages from it since last night. I can only assume it's some sort of glitch in the system.
So I guess it is their problem at least :p
Btw I still can't log on the chat, can you? What is your error message? Mine is:
Closing Link: Guest4640[widget2.mibbit.com] (User has been permanently banned from Ustream (Rogue irc webclient))
Btw the Empress and Vymrl war also caused the unforeseen consequence of having metallic dragon oppose chromatic (even if for different reasons than a standard D&D world) I think we can work a little on that too...
I set up another room. www.mibbit.com/chat/ room #LoC
I added the Metallic dragons in the mix, as they are a part of the Iron State, which mobilized to help the Imperium fight off its neighbors. Just for the record.
Ooosh. Very sorry I've disappeared of late, I'm back and ready for action. I'm afraid I kind of dropped off the radar after all the community changes. This new place is a bit odd! ^_^;
But back and in shape now! Starl returneth.
I'm finally back now. Wasn't very nice business. Can anybody give me a quick sum of what's changed while I was gone?
I have little time to write anything and my ideas seem to have deserted me today, so I'm gifting my PP this turn..
2PP to Veros
2PP to Hensen
2PP to Kiptar (this counts the admin award I had this turn... if I can't transfer that then make it 1PP)
In addition, any god who wishes can use either Create portal in the Place Between Places to form a new permanent portal (inside TPBP) at any time, on this and any following turn. I want TPBP to attract more races and people, not just my own.
Welcome back, you two. Come and join the LOC group (community.wizards.com/lordsofcreation/) to talk about rules changes for LoC3, and to join the PbP. We need two more people, everyone!
Graxith... when were you last here? potentially a lot or a little has changed
AngelofthenNight, I just caught this. You can't "Spawn Heroic Populace - Salamanders".
First, Populaces are not spawned
Second, Salamanders are Paragon.
he can make them as monster (spawn beasts) or a custom heroic populace I think. However I guess that we have seen the last actions from Vymrl.
Going to need clarification from him on it. Even if he makes it a spawn, it's paragon unless he's going full custom on it.
Also, I wouldn't count on that. No PP was spent to Imprison Vymrl for a reason. Angel wants to clean some things up with his exarchs before he's done for this game.
Aboleth11, 1 PP is not enough to remove the worship of Vymrl from the Sahuagin. It would take 2 PP, and to top it off, since his worship was through the Bronze Pantheon, you'd also be removing worship of the following gods: Kiptar, Empress, Hensen Jijou, Hammu, Drahthor, and Azor'Chapien
I don't think you want to go about ticking off so many powerful gods by removing their worship from the Sahuagin.
As for Topheh calling it the Deep, that's because the Deep is an existing demi-plane, not your Great Ocean.
Ah, quite true, but I meant the Great Ocean when I wrote it
I'll leap right in next refresh, Starl has some plans, and a new race may be introduced to the world, a personal new favourite of mine... *Nods*
Huzzah! I officially dub this game "Lords of Creation: the Aetheric Realms" (or AR for short). If anyone objects, please do feel free to do so, but please also do have a suggestion for a world name of your own.
With the game winding down and a new one potentially starting up, having something other than "LoC II" to refer to this as would be nice.
Just a,
Thought
I'm sorry shaddow, I was writing PP expenditures right before starting pre-cal homework at 9:30 PM. Anyway, as long as Aradiea is fine with it, the polite fiction that Vymrl was imprisoned will remain. All further PP spent will be flavored as through his exarchs. And I'll change that expenditure, I originally intened it is a beast, but that works. Will you be okay with me merely subtracting a PP from this turn? btw, what is the keyword for Populous's, I though it was spawn?
Shape Populace
And spending your PP through exarchs is fine. Aradeia didn't spent PP to directly imprison you, so you're fine to act as you wish. Just post here and specify your changes for me please/
I added two PP from my current turn to change the Salamanders into a Paragon populace.
Hey, Nerdzul...
When did you create the Dolgaunts? I don't find them referenced anywhere in the threads beyond that one post of yours. Also, what are they? Unshaped?
Hey- sorry I haven't been on for a while- I had to do some important business around my house... Hoof...!
So, what all did I miss during my time of absence?
Nerdzul, my bad. Looks like i just missed it.
Xeadin, here is your public service announcement. I beleive you missed this post, made by Tinwe several days ago, involving Correloth.
Before Dolestre could reach Torvek, Corelloth flaps her wings and pushes both of them out towards the water. "Now, I shall continue what is planned!" She uses the stolen energy, and the small flame on the sand erupts into a fury of violet energy, that seems to expand rapidly towards the main town. All of a sudden, the energy roars upward into a spiraling pillar- towards the Skyway River. Corelloth appears from the roaring energy. "Let this be a lesson to both of you- if you tend to try and ruin my plans, I shall have both of your heads! Mark my words!" And with that, she disappears in a ball of violet flame.A tendril of purple flame threaded its way along the Skyway River, and curled into the space of the Place Between Places. Hammu stared at it, watching as the flame flickered through the air. He could sense that great power lay at its source- furthermore, he could sense that something had upset the Balance once again. "Corelloth. She's back, and once again she threatens my creation! How many times has she threatened Beacon, and now she intrudes into my own sanctuary?! Enough of this!"
Hammu turned towards the Courts. There was something there... something that might help in this situation. A breeze flowed through the great doors of the Courts, and dust lifted from the large skeletons within. Some form of insect lifted its head out of the damaged ribcage of one bony heap, and the skeletons creaked to their feet. With a motion of his hand, Hammu beckoned them to his side, took the Hammer of Law in hand, and then he opened The Zenith and stepped through into Azora.
Hammu paid the distraught dragons no heed, but bent immediately to the scent of Corelloth. "She's got no place to hide.. she can't have gone far. I'll just follow her disarderly trail until I find her!" Some time later, Hammu cornered Corelloth in her lonely hideaway. He motioned the skeletons forward "These creations are... distasteful, but they are nothing if not tools of Balance. As they Balanced Yoglith, so they will Balance you, Corelloth."
Swarms of Pyreflies were evident now, crawling from the cavities of the skeletons. They flared bright in the dim light, and buzzed hungrily as they closed in on Corelloth. It was over quickly. As the skeletons slumped, their work complete for now, Hammu knelt beside the corpse that now flickered with a slowly burning purple fire and retrieved a Pyrefly. He sent the insect on its way to Veros with a message.
"Lord of Knowledge. I've something that belongs to you, in a way, and something that you should see. "
Dolgaunts originally are from Eberron campaign setting, here are Eladrin that attempted to teleport to battle in Terena but was "snatched" by an unshaped spell and sent to the Grand Distortion to be warped by their magic. Then they were pretty much forgotten...
Pefect- more backtracking! Yay!
Hoestly, I had never thought of looking at Tinwe's replies, because it's usually Chapien or Topheh...
Yeah, Xeadin, that's not really much good either. Correlloth has a combat modifier of 1. Hammu effectively attacked her with a combat modifier of 2 (the two skeletons). Coirreloth can't just 'shrug off' the damage. At best, she can limp away injured when we leave. At worste, Hammu might decide that he wants to skin her for boots.
Ekluag
A bunch of rodents don't have the power to negate the inherent properties of a planar effect. It's like trying say that enough ice can out out a portion of the Elemental Plane of Fire. It's not a radiating effect that is altering the landscpe. The landscpae itself causes the decay and death. If you took a large stone from the Gray Wastes and moved it elsewhere, it would still be just as vile and detrimental to life. A bottle of the Gray Wastes air, taken to the far side of the world, and inhaled, would still physically weaken you when you inhaled it, and make you more vulnerable to sickness and disease.
I didn't think that they are negating it, just reducing the effect. I realize that they cannot negate it in any way, but I wanted to do something that would make it possibly easier to be in the Grey Wastes. What I envisioned was that if enough, say several hundered where in an area at once, it might be just slightly more livable. How would I do that?
While on the topic, I know they are an artifact, but how many PP is the Grey Wastes?
I THINK the Grey Wastes are a 2PP creation, though I may be wrong.
As you guys cansee I'm attempting to catch up slowly but surely. UMaine fotunately isn't curbstomping me THAT hard.
Who else hates the new layout? Especially the rplying system?
expecially the fact that you can't see older posts when you reply, its really annoying hehe...
Um, ff6shadow- you left Torvek out of the Refresh list... I'm a little worried... 
SImple accounting error Xeadin, You still have 4 PP.
Ekluag, the Gray Wastes is no longer an artifact. Shurka destroyed the artifact aspect. It is now a demi-plane overlying the main world.
Hehe... accidents and errors do happen...
I'm just getting the strange feeling that I'm starting to burn out now... Quite inconvenient, but hopefully we can get the LoC 3 going soon. Can't wait for Tash'karroth to do his stuff!
And I did see your PbP game in the PbP Haven- the Red Hand of Doom... I'm also strting a PBP game myself...
Bah 120 € each night hotel and there is no internet service in the rooms, I'll not be able to post nor to chat much for the next few days, see you later and have fun ;)
Aboleth11, it costs 2 P to teach your populace something new.
Hi All. Sorry reset is late... ran into traffic on the way home. It'll be up shortly.
Well, Reset is already a day behind... I suppose work has you all caught up in a haystack... hehe...
Um, Xeadin, the reset was done already. Yesterday. By Topheh. :P
Is it in the IC Thread? Oh- right! Hello...! (Smacks himself in the head)
Two quick question: how many types of elementals are currently in existence? And if I wanted to add some of those elsewhere, would that be a 1PP guide per elemental type, or just a sweeping 1PP that encompasses all elementals?
Addeded a wiki page about the Fragment and its giants inhabitants, I'll make a fluff post about it later.
Xeadin, just a heads up, Chroma is currently depressed and more or less ignoring everything around him. So even if your exarch comes across him in the Chaos, he'll just ignore them unless they something first or pretty much demand his attention. And even then there's a good chance he'd try to Decreate Exarch... he can lash out when he gets mopey.
Why is he depressed? Did something... upset him?
Well... aside from the fact Corelloths meddling in the Chaos has tainted it with evil, a bunch of dragons just sent about half of the planes vital energy into the material world to completely decimated the Imperium, causing an uncountable number of deaths and irreparable damage to the plane. Considering that Chroma considers the plane a living, breathing entity and his mother besides...
Ouch...
Torvek had a similar incident with his family before he came into the LoC world...
Ummm... Is anybody in the house...?
Topheh: I don't think that sblocks work anymore- substitute quote with sblock. It still works the same.
Ekluag, why did you spawn death giants? And, why is there absolutely no fluff related to them in your post?
I was going to shape them this turn, as lesser kin to the Death titans, but I'm not complaining about that (I can find somethingelse to do easily enough). It's the creation of race with absolutely no fluff explanation for their creation, or even anything written about it in your post what so ever, that is drawing my attention here.
Ekluag- I went back to your recent posts, and I found this interesting part that stuck out to me. Who's this 'godling' that you're referring to?
Xeadin-
I am well aware that sblock is not working. I am holding out hope that soon they will return that feature to functionality, at which point all my posts will look the way they should. If LoC3 starts and they have not fixed it, then I will consider another option.
Xeadin, your laster post, found here:http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/19921182/Lords_of_Creation_2_In_Character_Thread_2&post_num=196#346199881
Is invalid. It never occured. You only have 4PP per turn, all of which has been spent. You did not have the 3 PP you tried to spend there. Further, even if you did have it, Mold Land only creates land, nothing on it. Anything on it has to be added seperately. All players should ignore this post and act as if it never happened.
Uggg... I feel sooooo stupid now!!!
This LoC 2 is starting to fall apart, making me lose count of my PP...
Gahhh!!! So frustrating...
On top of that, this stupid computer is driving me INSANE- it takes forever to load a freaking page!!!!!!!!!!
[EDIT] Deleted. 
I've waited as long as I can for confirmation one way or another on this matter. With absolutely nothing explaining the PP expenditure for the creation of Death Giants, I have to treat it as an attempt to store PP. As that is not allowed, this action will be ignored.
Xeadin, you losing track of your PP has absolutely nothing to do with the state of this LoC, and everytrhing to do with the fact that, as far as I can tell, you don'ty understand the game. Further, are you trying to import your hombrew world into the game? Because, as a point of fact, as far as LoC is concerned, your homebrew world does not exist.
Turn 55 begins now. 13,750 years have elapsed since the beginning of existence.
PP Refresh
8 - Veros (37%)
7 -
6 - Hensen Jijou (90%), The Empress (72%), Shurka (57%), Vymrl (53%), Nixis (25%), Kiptar (04%)
5 - Chroma (90%), Hammu (66%), Azor-Chapien (28%)
4 - Starl (76%), Ythrexle (66%), Honissia (60%), Torvek (16%), Ashralan (16%)
Not existent- yet... it would take time...
I'm just not in a very happy mood today... sorry if I sound pissed off... I don't mean to be rude...
I'm still confused about the new system for the Refresh- what is it, and how exactly does it work?
The percentage shows how close you are to arriving at the next level of PP.
That is my point, Xeadin. You don't seem to understand the purpose of LoC. The goal is not to import your own campaign into the world. The point is to make something new by working cooperatively with the other players, not to simply import your own personal campaign setting into the world.
Hmm... Well, should I start over with a new character then? ...because I am starting to be forced into that direction...
Um, if I may ask, starting to be forced? I haven't seen much in the way of godly interaction that would force your hand on the issue...
Also, anyone mind of Chroma wreaks some havoc in that city of the iron four armed people in the Chaos?
It just seems like I have to go that way, since I'm not getting very much out of this so far...
I just feel like starting over with a new character- so that I can do more.. maybe the second time's a charm...
Well, you'd have to take that up with the admins I think, although LoC3 isn't too far away... it better arrive soon before I end up changing my god again because I have yet another good idea for one
ff6shadow: do you think it's alright for me to change characters- since I'm going nowhere with Torvek?
Anubis, be my guest and wreak havoc. Just don't destroy it completely, just make it more interesting somehow. I personally haven't done anything with it for months now, so I have no problem if you have something interesting you want to do.
Another point I wanted to mention to you, though, was that the dragon's spell that unleashed stuff on the Imperium technically didn't do anything to the Chaos. It's cool if you wanted to add that it did, but technically it didn't.
Aradeia
I'm imagine that throwing that much energy from it as a weapon would cause some damage, even if it's completely fluff... there's no real mechanical change to the plane, with the exception of the creation of the slaad and the Chaos Rift in Ardune which was in the process of being made anyway. As long as it's strictly fluff or has mechanical backing I don't see why we can't just say some damage has been done, even if only Chroma is actually connected enough to it to see it. Or he's just imagining it completely, whatever floats your boat
Also, thank you for giving me free reign to mess with your people... and I am suddenly regretful this forum doesn't have a devil smiley
EDIT: Huh, you know, writing that Azoria/slaad post, I suddenly realized how similar slaad are to the aliens from.. well, Aliens o.o
Why would you be forced in the direction of a new god? Anyways, no, it's too late in the game for at this point.
ff6shadow- Is that post better? Or do I still need to work on it a little...?
The halflings have already been created. In fact, they were the first intelligent race to come into existence if I recall.
Erggg... What now? Humans are a definite no... How about the Eladrin?
They were the second intelligent race to come into existence. Or possibly the third after dwarves, it was either one or the other.
Someone probably created Humans for sure... What about Elves? Half- Elves? Dragonborn was created by Chapien... Tiefling was created for sure... Kobolds?
Elves yes, half-elves are half-elves so creating them is kind of like creating a mule or labrador kelpy cross, kobolds about a week or so ago actually, I'm surprised you didn't read that.
What about the Gith races (Githyanki/ Githzerai)? Drow? Gnomes? Hobgoblins? Shifters?
Not sure about the drow actually. Hobgoblins I think have been done, but if so they haven't been used much. Gith I'm almost 100% sure haven't been done, but you might one to check with someone who's been here since the beginning or read all of the thread.
So the Gith, Drow, Gnomes, and Shifters are options...
I think I'm gonna go with the Shifter.
Noo, I simply pointed out the ones that might be a remote possibility. Both Shifters and Gnomes have been taken.
Also, this back and forth has made this thread a hot topic :P
Anyway, I think you're going about this the wrong way man. Once you make whatever race you're going to make, what are you going to do with them?
Hmmm... So, Drow or Gith...
Should I create a completely new and unusual race, and provide fluff with it?
I would like to create a race for the Mortal Stories...
I would seriously suggest you don't do drow even if someone hasn't created it yet. Having the drow segregate from the elves/eladrin is such a huge part of their default fluff that just poofing them into existence for no reason seems... wasteful.
A new and unusual race would work well too, but remember that you shouldn't just create populaces for the hell of it, you should do it to create interesting cultures that play a part in the world. At least that's how I feel, I suppose you can create them for any reason really ^_^;
Yeah- I can see how the Drow wouldn't work...
As for a brand new race... I think I can manage... It would be a race specifically tuned in to their environment...
So like tree people? Come to think of it, I don't think anybody has created Wilden... treeants have been made though I'm sure, and maybe nymphs too
EDIT: Okay, I'll try to refrain from making posts that consist of 'this has been made' from now on, I'm spamming the thread
Eh... I wasn't really going toward Tree People, although the Dryads would make for a nice touch... More of like a race of beings that use the terrain to their advantage- somewhat like the Na'vi from Avatar (On Sci-Fi).
I'd call the race the Naragese- a race of humanoids that resemble humans, but their devotion to the wilderness have made them true woodsmen and harness the powers of nature to their advantage- their main class would be the Druid.
Oh massive... I knew I shouldn't have even mentioned you in my post, then you wouldn't have returned ;)
Is the skyway river large enough to hold a Zataran? I mean... Chukwa's got rivers on his own back
gah, just got back.
Shadow, sorry about the Death Giants. It was an impulse, and I don't care about it one way or the other.
Not a problem Ekluag. It wasn't there creation that frew my attention (I don't have a right to them or anything), but the lack of any fluff in the post explaining where they came from, where they were, or even how it happened.
Yah, again sorry about that.
Aboleth11, as I recall, the Great Sea if a proper plane, created by you, correct? This means you do not need to pay PP to mold the land. You can mold it at-will.
Okay, so I'm making the change to the created race- from the Halflings to the Naragese (since the Halflings were already created...).
Quick question- ahs anyody made the Drakes yet? Like the Needlefang Swarm, Guard drake, Rage drake, Spiretop drake?
Some drakes have been made, some have not. spiretop has been made specifically.
*points you once again to the wiki, which actually has all this information*
Topheh, I think we may have been posting those last two posts at the same time. Shurka is awake.
Um, Topheh- problem- There are no Spiretop drakes on the Wiki. I just checked...
I don't think that the Wiki has been updated for some time...
May I ask something?
How far away are we from the end of LotC 2?
I was planning to do something with Eijra before the end after all so it would be nice to know.
It's probably still two-three weeks away, depending on progression of certain things
Xeadin, 2 things
First, making Needlefang Drake Swamrs is a spawn, not a guide.
Second, where is this continent? On the prime world? In the Astral Sea?
And on that note, two other things.
3. Why in the world would I make up what I found on the wiki? Did you even try to use the search bar?
lordsofcreation.wikia.com/wiki/PP_Expend... has the record of Spiretop Drakes being created by Xirinet way back in april
4. Reading your post, and your PP expenditure list, I'm noticing that a) you are using your exarch's abilities twice, when they only have 1 PP worth of energy to contribute on any given turn. That second time you use each of them needs to come from your own PP. b) It won't be an issue once a) is addressed, but Exarchs provide only one type of PP. You have one of your exarchs providing both spawn and guide PP. c) You have 3-exarch generated PP going towards spawning creatures. You can only spend 1 Exarch PP on any one type of action each turn. So if Hondala is spawn and Terascul is guide, you can spend each of those and then 2 of your PP the other two spawns. If they are both spawns, you can only use one of them, and will need to spend 3 of your own PP.
Xeadin, 2 things
First, making Needlefang Drake Swamrs is a spawn, not a guide.
Second, where is this continent? On the prime world? In the Astral Sea?
Yeah- I don't post in order- I post in groups, so that I can keep track of who's doing what.
And is there a map of the prime world? Because if there is, I would like to see it.
And on that note, two other things.
3. Why in the world would I make up what I found on the wiki? Did you even try to use the search bar?
lordsofcreation.wikia.com/wiki/PP_Expend... has the record of Spiretop Drakes being created by Xirinet way back in april
4. Reading your post, and your PP expenditure list, I'm noticing that a) you are using your exarch's abilities twice, when they only have 1 PP worth of energy to contribute on any given turn. That second time you use each of them needs to come from your own PP. b) It won't be an issue once a) is addressed, but Exarchs provide only one type of PP. You have one of your exarchs providing both spawn and guide PP. c) You have 3-exarch generated PP going towards spawning creatures. You can only spend 1 Exarch PP on any one type of action each turn. So if Hondala is spawn and Terascul is guide, you can spend each of those and then 2 of your PP the other two spawns. If they are both spawns, you can only use one of them, and will need to spend 3 of your own PP.
Um, Topheh- that was kind of rude... thanks for the info.
So, you're saying that I can only use 2 Spawn actions and 1 guide action from my Exarches, or I can only use one exarch's PP per turn with one action... Well, it's back to the ol' drawing board again... Uggg... Why does this have to be so difficult?
Okay- I made the change.
Xeadin, I'm sorry if I sounded rude, but you've said before that things aren't on the wiki when I've told you they are... I think I let some other issues I've been having in RL creep in. Just... try searching next time... odds are every creation isn't ever going to get its own page. Most of them would look like "spiretop drake: Just like in the Monster Manual. Live in Alexandria." The PP page, if a few turns behind, is definitely the place to go if you want to know whats been made or not. It has everything thats had PP spent on it. And I promise I'll get it caught up eventually.
As for your post... its still not working... let me see if I can make myself clearer...
So, the laws governing how you can spend the PP that your Exarchs and Artifacts produce on a basic level boil down to this. You can use up to 4 PP a turn from Exarchs or Artifacts. Each Exarch and Artifact at its time of creation needs to be given a specific type of PP that it produces. And the last rule is that you can't use 2 of the same type of artifact/exarch in a turn. So, using my exarchs/artifacts as examples... I have 5 PP producing exarchs and artifacts:
Chukwa, my Zaratan Exarch that provides nourish PP
Convincer, my Gnome Exarch that provides guide PP
Enoch, my Animate Book Exarch that provides nourish PP
The Astral Shard, an artifact that provides Create PP
The Staff of Earth, an artifact that provides Mold PP
As you see, thats 5 PP producers, two of which are nourish Exarchs.
On my turn, I can use 4 of those. So often I will have Chukwa or Enoch (not both) nourish a group they are with, the staff of earth create a mountain somewhere, Convincer tell a group of people to go explore somewhere else, and the Astral Shard to make some sort of artifact. When I need to, I RP that I am 'feeding power into the Astral Shard' for instance, to use its 1 PP and my own 1 PP to create a combat artifact, for instance.
So, lets say I give away one of my Aritfacts for a time, like my Staff of Earth, which is currently being used by one of Vymrl's Exarchs (Are you still needing that, Angel?)
Now I have 4 PP producing Exarchs/Artifacts, yet I can only use 3, as two of them... Enoch and Chukwa, both provide nourish PP, so I cannot use them during the same turn.
In your post, you are using two exarchs to both spawn a creature, which, like my 2 nourish Exarchs, is not allowable by the rules.
Your original post had 3 spawns and 2 guides. Assuming that Hondala is Spawn and Terascul is Guide, a proper spending of PP for those actions would look like this
1 PP: Spawn creature(lesser): Beavers.
1 PP-Hondala: Spawn Creature(lesser): Needlefang Drake
1 PP: Spawn Creature(lesser): Seacat
1 PP-Terascul: Guide Creature: Needlefang Drakes form into swarms.
This way, your exarchs are only spending their PP once each, and they are doing different things. It leaves you with 2 PP to use for the rest of the turn. I hope this helps
Nerdzul- Yes, I'd love a MS for the Yoglid new-island... but I needed my Beholders to be a little further along than they are, and now I find my PP diverted to dealing with a certain war in the heavens. Give me another turn or so and I'll try and get them to the point that I was wanting to start it at.
We'll top it of with one worse. Xeadin, you're exarchs don't produce PP at all. According tomy records, no PP type was specified at their creation. So all your exarchs aregood for is RP and combat bonuses.
Yes- thanks Topheh!
ff6shadow- Right- I forgot about that... Hondala is the only Exarch that produces PP- Dolestre and Terascul are the RPers (Though I don't use Terascul all that much- is there a way to get rid of an Exarch?). Hondala doesn't fight, so there is no need for her to be a Combat Exarch. I specifically created her to produce pp. She'll be the Spawner... now, what to do with the other exarches that will soon be created...
So, Only Artifacts or Exarches per turn can use 1pp each- using a specific command for each Artifact/ Exarch- to a total of 4 or however much pp the god has, right? Well, I only have 1 pp-producing Exarch, and that's Hondala... time to make more pp producing Exarches/ Artifacts! ... as soon as I get more pp...
Well, I'm just gonna go with Beavers then...
I'm going to let Topheh work with you on understanding artifacts and exarchs.
But no, Hondala does NOT provide ANY PP. I tracked down the post. :http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/19921006/Lords_of_Creation_II_In_Character&post_num=2321#339689266
Nowhere does it say that Hondala is a PP exarch. That means, by default, Hondala is a combat exarch.
I'm going to let Topheh work with you on understanding artifacts and exarchs.
But no, Hondala does NOT provide ANY PP. I tracked down the post. :http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/19921006/Lords_of_Creation_II_In_Character&post_num=2321#339689266
Nowhere does it say that Hondala is a PP exarch. That means, by default, Hondala is a combat exarch.
Erggg... I wish I would've understood how Exarches worked back then... I feel dumb...
so, that means that I can't create ANYTHING, huh? Well, say goodbye then Naragese and Gertalea... I just entered a whole new world of reality...
To all: The last couple of post I made in the IC thread- disregard those as if nothing had ever happened...
The rules have been on the artifacts/exarch page of the wiki since day 1. I distinctlyrecall asking you, as I ask most new players, if they have read and understood the rules. I linked you directly to them.
I'm starting to regret creating Torvek... I should've created my god from scratch...
No, the 4 PP is a hard rule. You have 4 normal PP and up to 4 artifact PP. I have 6 normal PP and up to 4 artifact PP.
As for your latest post, theres no reason you can't make it work, you just have to spend your own PP on it. You had 4 actions of 1 PP each, you have 4 PP of your own to spend, so you can just spend all of that PP and have 0 until tomorrow's reset... which, honestly, sounds good to me
If you want, you can even say that its hondala, etc doing the actions, but as long as your record it as your PP being spent, its all good.
Hey, quick request at Chapien: do you mind if we leave the slaad and Azorians as is? War is a lot more interesting for PC's, and if it's basically a cold war where the knights can't invade because of the elemental energy, and the slaad can't do much more than sneak past the fortress to attack the odd outlieing villages (which could be PC inhabited), it opens up hundreds of hooks to lure in adventurers to the conflict.
Checking in...
Point of Order, can Topheh recreate the rift out without my persmission, since the Skyway River is, at least in part, my plane?
Anycase, won't be able to post anything until the weekend--I don't know if that will be too late for this meeting. Assume Mara shows up if you must.
Are there any special rules on molding/ nourishing land within a plane of existence that you have created?
Hey, quick request at Chapien: do you mind if we leave the slaad and Azorians as is? War is a lot more interesting for PC's, and if it's basically a cold war where the knights can't invade because of the elemental energy, and the slaad can't do much more than sneak past the fortress to attack the odd outlieing villages (which could be PC inhabited), it opens up hundreds of hooks to lure in adventurers to the conflict.
Actually, yes, that does sound like a good idea.
MassiveAttack
I'll probably assume Mara shows up then. As for the rift, if you want to prevent his exiting back through the river, you can as it is your plane, and Chukwa is only an exarch. However, as an exarch, if you aren't actively trying toprevent his passage, then he can reopen it, yes.
Xeadin
No, there are no special rules regarding the molding of land within a plane, othert than it cannot effect things beyond the plane, costs no PP, and provides no benefit.
Hmm... Well, let me know about that, because otherwise I'm going to have to find some other way to get back
Edit: Okay, finding another way.
So, you can mold land within the plane at-will, but it provides no benefit other than that it's just there. I can live with that- and it makes sense too...
Otherwise, I have to spend pp if I want to mold land outside of the plane that has its own benefits.
I'm just curious (and maybe I asked this), but can an Exarch spend its own pp just like a normal character would without having the character taking it (basically having the Exarch use its powers for RP purposes on their own? And if so, how much pp do they have? 1 or 2pp?)
What shadow means is that mold land actions outside of your plane (that you pay for) have an effect on the amount of PP you get at the start of each turn. If you make a mountain for free in your own plane, however, that doesn't help you get closer to the next PP.
As for Exarchs... They have however much PP you want to give them. If you have something you want your Exarch to do that costs 1 PP and is tied to its keyword, then you just RP them doing that.
Example: Chukwa breathed life onto the dead earth, and it flourished.
Thats my Exarch using 1 PP to nourish the land (he's a nourish Exarch).
Alternatly, Sometimes Convincer (my guide Exarch) will need to teach a race something for 2 PP. So I RP him doing so:
Example: Convincer looked with pity on the Ooompaloompahs and taught them chocolate manufacturing.
Thats a 2 PP action, but convincer only provides 1 PP. The other PP comes from my personal stash. So if I did that this turn, I'd have 5 PP out of 6 PP left and have used up COnvincer's power for the turn.
Alternatly, sometimes I have my Exarch use one of my Artifacts. For instance, for many turns, Convincer had fallen under the mental control of the Mournelord and used both his own power, the astral shard and the staff of earth to do the mournelord's will. Again, perfectly fine.
So, in summary: Your Exarchs have however much PP you want to give them to do their action. THey have 1 of their own plus... anything else you want to give for that turn. And no, you don't have to explicitly give that PP in a "Nixis gave convincer an extra PP" action... the PP is just a check to make sure that you and your representatives (your exarchs and artifacts) use, in sum, an appropriate amount of power each turn.
What shadow means is that mold land actions outside of your plane (that you pay for) have an effect on the amount of PP you get at the start of each turn. If you make a mountain for free in your own plane, however, that doesn't help you get closer to the next PP.
Yeah- I don't see how creating a mountain would help you gain any experience at all, unless you mold it with your own pp. And what do you mean by "Having an effect on the amount of pp that I get at the start of each turn?" Does that mean I get an extra temporary pp for the next reset (Temporary as in not affecting how much total pp I actually get each reset)?
As for Exarchs... They have however much PP you want to give them. If you have something you want your Exarch to do that costs 1 PP and is tied to its keyword, then you just RP them doing that.
Example: Chukwa breathed life onto the dead earth, and it flourished.
Thats my Exarch using 1 PP to nourish the land (he's a nourish Exarch).
Alternatly, Sometimes Convincer (my guide Exarch) will need to teach a race something for 2 PP. So I RP him doing so:
Example: Convincer looked with pity on the Ooompaloompahs and taught them chocolate manufacturing.
Thats a 2 PP action, but convincer only provides 1 PP. The other PP comes from my personal stash. So if I did that this turn, I'd have 5 PP out of 6 PP left and have used up COnvincer's power for the turn.
Alternatly, sometimes I have my Exarch use one of my Artifacts. For instance, for many turns, Convincer had fallen under the mental control of the Mournelord and used both his own power, the astral shard and the staff of earth to do the mournelord's will. Again, perfectly fine.
So, in summary: Your Exarchs have however much PP you want to give them to do their action. THey have 1 of their own plus... anything else you want to give for that turn. And no, you don't have to explicitly give that PP in a "Nixis gave convincer an extra PP" action... the PP is just a check to make sure that you and your representatives (your exarchs and artifacts) use, in sum, an appropriate amount of power each turn.
So in a sense, you can give them however much pp you want to have them run an action- that's within their boundaries- for instance Mold or Guide or Nourish. What about combat exarches? Do they still spend 1pp on a determined action- Create or Mold or Nourish, etc?
Off Topic: I know that this may be off- topic, but who woild like to join a PbP game with me?
The PbP is called Night of the Dark Ages.
Surely you've noticed how I started at 4 PP a turn and am now at 6 PP, yes? Thats what I mean. Your actions go into a formula that determines your 'power' in the world, and how much PP you get per turn. If you make a mountain, that counts. But if you make a mountain in your own plane for free, then it doesnt, because otherwise I'd make 20 billion mountains and get to 4000 PP/turn with ease.
As for the Exarchs, within or not within their boundaries. If you really want your guide exarch to do something to nourish a populace, even though thats not something that defines him (as he *is* a guide exarch), you can do that... just in that case, you can't use your exarchs guide PP to actuate the nourish, you have to use your own. So, I might do the following.
Convincer saw what a bad state the warforged were in. He went to them and healed their wounds, brightening their spirits. Then he taught them how to heal each others wounds.
So here Convincer is doing two things. The first is a nourish action. He's healing them and restoring a bit of the warforged's strength to their nation. That would be denoted
1 PP: Nourish Populace: Warforged. Note that Convincer's PP is not being used here. He's a guide exarch, not a nourish exarch.
Then, he teaches them to help themselves, a guide action. Thats 2 PP, so it woud look like this.
2PP (1 from Convincer): Guide Populace: Warforged learn Cleric.
So here, Convincer CAN provide a PP of his own (as its a guide action and he is a guide exarch) while the other PP again comes from my personal stash. So, in the end, I have 4 out of 6 PP remaining and have spent Convincer's PP.
Combat Exarchs don't provide PP. Rather they provide a combat bonus to you. As such, they don't have a PP of their own to spend, but you can, of course, still have them do an action as long as it comes from your general stash. So, lets say I had an exarch named... Smasher mcSmashington, a combat Exarch. I could post the same thing I did above with convincer, but instead of the guide action being '2 PP (1 from convincer)', as mcSmashington has no PP to give, it would just be '2PP' and I would have 3 out of my original 6 PP left to spend for the turn.
Turn 56 begins now. 14,000 years have elapsed since the beginning of existence.
PP Refresh
8 - Veros (40%)
7 -
6 - Xirinet (93%), Hensen Jijou (88%), The Empress (81%), Shurka (57%), Mara (55%), (Vymrl (54%), Tsaroka-Noggoth (37%), Nixis (26%), Kiptar (05%)
5 - Chroma (98%), Eijra (74%), Hammu (67%), Oravolos (50%), Chactross (40%), Azor-Chapien (33%), Drahthor (26%), Roan (14%), Neko (05%)
4 - Siccadan (80%), Starl (77%), Ythrexle (73%), Nocturne (67%), Jormundrasil (63%), Honissia (60%), Ipsur (50%), Frellisk (37%), Ka (27%), Runescar (23%), Quel (20%),Incarnation's End (20%),Sessilee (17%), The Void (17%), Torvek (17%), Ashralan (17%), Cygnus (17%), Oreb Nahash (13%)
For demonstative purposes, I'd include all living gods on this reset. Note that the numbers are current for them, having been effected by others actions since their retirement.
As a curiosity why have I lost 2% between this age and the last one? (last I had 90% if I remember well, now 88%? maybe last one was a mistake?)
I forgot to mention that. I think I made a mistake last turn. I tripled checked the math, and nothing done last turn hurt you in anyway, so I had to have been mistaken last week.
Xeadin, Couatl's already exist. They've existed for a good five months. . .
Bleh! Everything that I create has been created already! What's up with that? Okay- time to check the timeline!
So, Ythrexle (Moondoggy) created the Couatls...
Time to mass edit my last post then.
Oh- here's the link to the PbP I set up:
Did anyone create Kobolds? I'll check the Wiki to make sure...
No need to, I already answered that question for you several days ago. It was yes, btw
Okay- the Dracos have been created. I feel better.
Hmmm, how many nourishes are the (outer) sylvani down to?
EDIT: also don't forget the Skyway River's effect on new planes.
I haven't forgotten, MassiveAttack- I'd have to spend an extra pp if the plane is not connected somehow to the Skyway River. Daelgar is connected to the Skyway River, so no worries there...
Otherwise, I'd be freaking out, because I don't have 5pp per turn to spend... 
The Ae-Silvani are currently at 0 nourishes. Only their base populace (3) remains.
Question- In the Mortal Stories, do we get to roleplay as any living creature that has been created, or only as the creatures that our god had created? I'm kind of curious about the Azorans and whatnot...
Xeadin, I think you should restrict yourself to things you yourself control, either because you created them, or because you caused them to worship you in the MS. It is somewhat rude to play with other peoples' stuff without their permission.
Aradeia
Question- In the Mortal Stories, do we get to roleplay as any living creature that has been created, or only as the creatures that our god had created? I'm kind of curious about the Azorans and whatnot...
I'm sorry, but only I know how to RP the Azorans, and RP them right :D
No worries. I was just asking. Having an intelligent race worship you is a Guide action, right?
I won't have the Azorans or the Humites worship Torvek. Feel free to have the Dracos worship you guys. I have plenty to go around.
I would like to RP as a different race, but I can't do that unless- a) I create more races, or- b) Use Guide action(s).
Actually, for the most part, MS is co-op. I could, you know, send some Azorans over to your continent (provided it isn't TOO far away) and we could MS together.
Hmmm... and in exchange give you some of my Dracos- that sounds like a good plan.
The island is in a different plane- that is- if the Azorans can travel through the Skyway River...
Unless I should make it on the Prime lands...
But in any case, I'm in.
Again, if anybody's interested in doing Night of the Dark Ages with me, feel free to click on the link below.
Do I have any volunteers? I have 5 more spots available- 2 to get started.
The Ae-Silvani are currently at 0 nourishes. Only their base populace (3) remains.
Just to be sure, if the base was treated at nourishes would they be below 3 or are they exactly at 3? Again, I am fairly certain that I split the outer and inner world Ae Sylvani with a guide but can't remember. If I did I think it make sense to say the outerworld ones have just been genocided out (and keep the base three with the inner ones who have not been involved).
To Xeadin: mortals can travel through the Skyway River, but it is not easy and would be pretty epic. First, you have to get your mortals into the river and from the prime material plane this means both finding the river and getting in (it's much easier from the planes). Also, you need a vessel or ship. Then, there are the various ways it interacts with the planes, for example in the Workshop the water is split up into piping and sewers so anything big may have a bit of a problem.
Well, It's a darn good thing that I have a big ocean in my plane. The travellers would have a bit of a fall, but they can get back to the River no problem. There is access to and from the River to and from Daelgar.
I've never seen anything directly splitting them, Massive. I did forget their age bonus though, which is 5. And that is an exact 3, yes.
If you want to run it as the outer aether Ae-Silvani genocided by war and disease, that is fine though.
You are right, here is the link from what I originally did. I believe that what I did was technically an illegal action since you can't give part of a group a tech. But that happened a while ago. Potential fix?
EDIT: Also, Grrr at whom took retribution.
Can I create a deity who lacks a physical apearance, and is rather just a conciousness with deific powers? Would a domain over a lack of physical embodiment be expressed as a domain of incorporeality or is there a better domain for such a concept? Would such a domain be lesser, moderate, or greater? Many things are incorporeal, but it is still a rather specific concept, which would lead me to think moderate, but what do you think? Do I need to wait for a current deity to ascend me? Can my holy symbol be a lack of a holy symbol? I want for any symbol used to describe my diety to be a kind of hubris that is frowned upon, as the true believers of my faith know no symbol is apropriate for a god of all things not-physical. They would pray by putting on blindfolds, eliminating the physical world around them, which is as close to a symbol as I would want it to get.
I'll post my stat block soon as my questions are answered.
If you want I think there will be no problem in having a so "ethereal" god (But first ask ff6shadow or Topheh for a confirmation), however mind that soon (in less than a month but I believe sooner) this istance of LoC will be over and we will begin a new one.
To Massive and Shadow: age bonus?
bye
Nerd
I can only think of one problem with your concept, namely that you'll have a hard time having clerics using their holy symbols in your name when you don't have a symbol, but... beyond that fluffy problem, I don't see why not. However, as Nerdzul said, we're about to wrap this instance of LoC up and start a new one. Update on that... we're finalizing all the rules and such now. Look for a completed version hopefully by this time next week, then we can seriously set a start date for LoC3. Hooray!
As for the Age bonus... I talked with Shadow for a while earlier and managed to figure out the system we use to determine the viability of a race/nation.
It takes into account three different things: Type of race (heroic, paragon, epic), length that civilization has been around (based on some formula I don't know... I know the Ae-sylvani have an age of 5 (and, being one of the first races, thats high up there) while the Children have an age of 1. And finally, as would be expected, nourishes.
Base+Nourishes+Age = A group's viability. If it drops to 0, then the group is effectively eradicated. For instance, Shadow told me that the frost giants are at negative nourishes right now, and actually are only surviving as a race that exists outside the imperium and children nations due to their substancial age in the game.
You learn new things every day ;)
As for the Age bonus... I talked with Shadow for a while earlier and managed to figure out the system we use to determine the viability of a race/nation.
It takes into account three different things: Type of race (heroic, paragon, epic), length that civilization has been around (based on some formula I don't know... I know the Ae-sylvani have an age of 5 (and, being one of the first races, thats high up there) while the Children have an age of 1. And finally, as would be expected, nourishes.
Base+Nourishes+Age = A group's viability. If it drops to 0, then the group is effectively eradicated. For instance, Shadow told me that the frost giants are at negative nourishes right now, and actually are only surviving as a race that exists outside the imperium and children nations due to their substancial age in the game.
You learn new things every day ;)
Yes apparently we do hehe,
Nice rule btw, however I guess we should make that rule public too on the wiki (expecially if we wants to keep in LoC 3 and in that case we will need a discussion like every other topic) to avoid confusion hehe...
Same with the "immortal servant" one (that I think we can remove).
Ae-Sylvania need only 3 de-nourishes to be destroyed? Excellent...
shadow, does Veros know anything at all about Kiptar, aside from the fact that it exists? I assume that much, because it did help judge the trials involving Drevan.
He could feasibly know anything about you a mortal might know. So he'd know you exist, and and probably your general leaning towards creation. Other than that, no.
I can only think of one problem with your concept, namely that you'll have a hard time having clerics using their holy symbols in your name when you don't have a symbol, but... beyond that fluffy problem, I don't see why not. However, as Nerdzul said, we're about to wrap this instance of LoC up and start a new one. Update on that... we're finalizing all the rules and such now. Look for a completed version hopefully by this time next week, then we can seriously set a start date for LoC3. Hooray!
Well, I was inspired a bit by the Assassin who uses Ki Focuses as their impliments instead of a physical impliment. Would it be too far fetched to think of a divine character who used a Ki Focus in place of a holy symbol? As they worship the ethereal, couldn't they have an ethereal holy symbol? One every bit as much real as a physical holy symbol, minus the physical part.
I think I will wait until LoC3 to start playing, but it's good to get the kinks out of the character beforehand.
I dont see why that wouldn't work... it was just the first thing that came to mind... a lack of holy symbol causing problems for those classes that sorta rely on them
I dont see why that wouldn't work... it was just the first thing that came to mind... a lack of holy symbol causing problems for those classes that sorta rely on them
so thumbs up?
That doesn't work, Xeadin. The Skyway River, while being a river in name, is not the safest thing to sail on. . . . and is unsailable in some areas. It's probably sailable in you're plane and Mechanus, but I know for a fact that you couldn't sail it through the Workshop (maybe a canoe, if you took the right passages), or the Well of Time, and sailing the Elemental Chaos section is probably suicidal.
Of course, even if it worked, you're people couldn't sail it anyways.
Xeadin, just build a portal to the prime material plane. It will make your life ALOT easier.
True, unless the Dracos learn how to craft canoes and small boats- that means using the Guide/ Teach action, right?
Even then, you are right. It is a risk, but a risk that determines the will of the intelligent mind. If they are afraid, they have a poor willpower to travel. Only the stronghearted could possibly prevail (That's my theory- your theory is probably different from mine...).
Again, Xeadin: Portal.
Xeadin, just build a portal to the prime material plane. It will make your life ALOT easier.
I don't have any PP left, Topheh... I used it up from creating the island and the Dracos.
Actual, this is Chapien. And, well, frankly, if you have no PP left then you have no PP for canoes either, friend. When I created a portal, I just treated it as a 1PP artifact.
WTF?
The fact is, the trips is dangerous on the level of beind a late paragon to epic adventure. . . . so that's not exactlya way in and out of your plane for the regular person.
That's against the rules- you can't create something that costs something- rather treated as something and not put your pp into it...
Then again, that is contradicting me raising several rocks in the air without using any pp...
But connecting two different planes is a different story...
ff6shadow- do you think it is legible to create a portal from your home plane and connect it to another world- without spending pp (treating it as though it was a 1pp artifact)?
[EDIT]: I'd have to tell you- that reaction was pretty funny...
Xeadin, two portals would be a 1PP artifact. That's what I did to send my Azorans to the Gray Wastes, and there have been no arguments so far. Thank you. Plus, why would connecting two planes be against the rules? Nothing in the rules states that.
Xeadin, he didn't break any rules. He created a 1 PP artifact that served as a portal.
Xeadin, two portals would be a 1PP artifact. That's what I did to send my Azorans to the Gray Wastes, and there have been no arguments so far. Thank you. Plus, why would connecting two planes be against the rules? Nothing in the rules states that.
I wasn't saying that connecting two planes was against the rules- I never said that.
I was saying that creating a portal without spending pp is against the rules. Did I not specify what I was saying? I apologize for the confusion...
Xeadin, a 1PP artifact costs 1PP to make. I NEVER said it was free. Just because I suggest something doesn't mean I suggest you do it NOW.
Now I understand. Thank you.
Your character probably doesn't have very much pp left, right?
I think Torvek would like to negotiate with Azor'Chapien to connect the Prime Plane with Daelgar... to have mortals travel in between planes without going through the Skyway River.
I have exactly 3PP left, by my count. Sure, that would be interesting, though Azor'Chapien is in the middle of a meeting.
Probably after his meeting, then- that would be the best time. He shall wait...
Hey! Question: Do Mold Land effects stack? It him me in the head just now...
*chuckles*
At the rate *that* meeting is going, I think you'll have your PP back by then
Oh, and Xeadin... one thing to clear up...
Having the skyway river float through the sky in your plane is fine... your plane, your placement of the branch of the river... however in no other place is the skyway river actually... you know... in the sky. Its just a normal river on the prime, the workshop, Mechanus, what have you. I'm sure its a little bizzare in the chaos, so I won't touch that... but... beyond that, its just a name, from way back when when Xa'an decided to mess with Mara a bit and Mara turned it to her own advantage.
Just an FYI
Thanks for the info, Topheh. I'll make sure of that the next time.
Hmmm... now that I think about it... should I have the Skyway River undersea...? You know- sort of like an undersea current? That would make sense...
So, I'm guessing that Torvek wasn't invited to the meeting that Veros nor the Empress are currently having?
Is he still allowed to hear what they talk about- without intervening?
No. There is no way for anyone not invited to know what is being talked about, even via domain knowledge, unless you are actually inside the plane (which requires an invite now). A gods plane is immune to domain knowledge. So stop meta-gaming Xeadin. You don't know what's going on, and all you're sudden talk about the gods leaving is just that - meta-gaming. If it continues, it can and will result in a PP penalty.
To Topheh and Chapien:
I think that Chroma set loose the Slaadi upon the Azorans, but your gods didn't know about Corelloth setting the pillar on Azora- which is perfect, ecause the mystery still continues for you guys.
Only Hammu knows who had done it... well, maybe Hammu- he didn't know that Corelloth set the pillar on Azora. He knew that Corelloth was threatening Beacon, so he followed her... which reminds me...
MassiveAttack: You couldn't possibly follow Corelloth without you knowing where she had actually gone. We need to talk about it more... I have a big problem with that...
Let me start with the problems in your post, Xeadin
1) The Flame Pillar isn't in the ocean. It's in the Great Sea, another gods plane. If Corelloth wnats it back, she's gonna have to go in and get it.
2) The Skyway River is not in the sky above Azora. Even if it were, how is Corelloth drawing power from an artifact/plane controller by another god. Unless you have MassiveAttack's okay, that is not okay.
3) As for you're OOC post here, I don't beleive Topheh or Chapien said anything about a purple dragon or Corelloth. If you're going to suggest metagaming,atleast point at a real case. Topheh clearly said, and I quote "was whoever put that burning pillar on your land."
4) And where are you seeing MassiveAttack mentioning Mara was following Corelloth?
They know that they found Torvek next to the pillar, and they blamed you for it... so, I don't think they're talking Correloth at the moment.
Yes, of course Chroma is the one making the Slaad, but correct, we do not know that. We just know a threat has been made against the Azorans and the last time that happened, Torvek was involved.
And a few other things...
1) The pillar of flame is now on a completely different plane, and miles below the surface. I'm sure that its not visible from above the water in another plane.
2) Again, the skyway river is not in the sky above Azora.
3) Honassia is gonna have a REALLY tough time getting in to see the two of us (I'm Nixis, by the way, not Topheh ;)), seeing that even other Gods are being locked out.
Let me start with the problems in your post, Xeadin
1) The Flame Pillar isn't in the ocean. It's in the Great Sea, another gods plane. If Corelloth wnats it back, she's gonna have to go in and get it.
2) The Skyway River is not in the sky above Azora. Even if it were, how is Corelloth drawing power from an artifact/plane controller by another god. Unless you have MassiveAttack's okay, that is not okay.
3) As for you're OOC post here, I don't beleive Topheh or Chapien said anything about a purple dragon or Corelloth. If you're going to suggest metagaming,atleast point at a real case. Topheh clearly said, and I quote "was whoever put that burning pillar on your land."
4) And where are you seeing MassiveAttack mentioning Mara was following Corelloth?
Oh- Duh- it was Tinwe that had Hammu- I'm losing my mind...!!!
WTF????? How is the Great Sea connected to Azora directly? Azora is on the Prime plane, isn't it? Unless the Great sea is underneath the Prime plane...
In any case, I will make a change.
They know that they found Torvek next to the pillar, and they blamed you for it... so, I don't think they're talking Correloth at the moment.
Yes, of course Chroma is the one making the Slaad, but correct, we do not know that. We just know a threat has been made against the Azorans and the last time that happened, Torvek was involved.
And a few other things...
1) The pillar of flame is now on a completely different plane, and miles below the surface. I'm sure that its not visible from above the water in another plane.
2) Again, the skyway river is not in the sky above Azora.
3) Honassia is gonna have a REALLY tough time getting in to see the two of us (I'm Nixis, by the way, not Topheh ;)), seeing that even other Gods are being locked out.
Hmmm... Sorry about that, Topheh- went a little too fast...
And it's HONDALA, not Honassia!
The answer is simple, Xeadin.
Azora is not linked to the Great Sea, true. But gods can go anywhere, anytime, in the blink of an eye, as long as there isn't another god preventing them, even to other planes. So, we went to the Great Sea, dumped it there, left, and that was the end of it.
Hey, Chapien- AnubisDread: While I'm thinking about it, I was thinking about a template to apply to some of the Slaadi and some of the Azorans from Corelloth's Dark Cannon she had set up. The template would be called Dark touched- a result of massive amounts of dark energy that coagulates inside organic tissue and changes the physical parameters of any living being into a creature of raw darkness.
Do you guys agree with this? I don't want to kill any Azorans or Slaadi- yet. I just want to see how this plays out...
This would recquire the presence of Torvek, obviously- since she can't use any of her own pp...
By the way... Topheh, ff6shadow- When will the next reset occur?
The answer is simple, Xeadin.
Azora is not linked to the Great Sea, true. But gods can go anywhere, anytime, in the blink of an eye, as long as there isn't another god preventing them, even to other planes. So, we went to the Great Sea, dumped it there, left, and that was the end of it.
I fished out the post in the IC thread.
Nixis reached back his hand, letters blurring into a blade of ready to strike Torvek, when he realized something odd. The pillar, for all its impressiveness, was not actually burning. Instead, the flames merely danced atop the grasses of Azora.Curious, Nixis left the prone form of Torvek and floated into the flames, eventually finding the core of the pillar, a small purple flame. Reaching into it, he grimaced for a moment in discomfort, then, with a fluid motion, picked up the entire pillar of fire and threw it into the ocean, where it sank, still burning as the flames appeared to give off light, but not heat. Nixis watched for a long moment as it floated deeper and deeper into the ocean, then turned back to the other two gods.
"This Torvek always seems to be threatening something or someone. I'm surprised he didn't try yanking out his chakram while he was sleeping there. Lets get him off your island."
Together, the two gods took the sleeping dragon, flew to the mainland and deposited him in the Skyway River, watching until he dissapeared into another plane. Nixis idly wondered where he'd wake up, but decided it wasn't really his problem.
Here's the problem- the post said NOTHING about the Great sea- which implies that he had thrown it into the ocean next to Azora.
Likely in about an hour, Xeadin. Might be more as shadow just had something come up.
And... I explained to you a few days ago about how your god spends PP... Torvek doesn't have to be there for Correloth to spend his PP, remember?
Oh, and Xeadin, the relevant post comes a few posts later... I gave you a day or so to respond.
The pillar of flame continued to drift along the ocean currents until it was sucked into a strange new place filled with sharks and sahaguin. There it came to a rest, giving light to the black waters of The Deep.
Except I meant the Great Sea.
Likely in about an hour, Xeadin. Might be more as shadow just had something come up.
And... I explained to you a few days ago about how your god spends PP... Torvek doesn't have to be there for Correloth to spend his PP, remember?
It would make more sense for Corelloth to 'steal' his energy from him, instead of having him in another place and have his energy taken away from him unexpectedly... that wouldn't make sense in my opinion...
I want to have this sense of rivalry between Corelloth and Torvek. Corelloth is the big bad guy (or gal), and Torvek is trying to stop her from becoming this manic psycho that prefers to alter reality the way she sees fit. as you can tell, that makes her a foe to contend with.
Corelloth is Torvek's Exarch- yes, but I want to have this sense of 'detachment' from either of the two. You get what I'm saying?
I understand everything now- I just want Torvek's story to make sense.
Sure, I understand that. But Correloth, as Torvek's rival/equal, shouldn't have to constantly take PP from Torvek... she should get some of her own. For you, I more envision the 4 PP to be invested in you, the storyteller, rather than you, playing as Torvek... but its up to you.
How else is she gonna get the PP? Combat Exarches aren't allowed to have their own pp- they have to 'borrow' it from their god. It is against ff6shadow's rules to have a combat exarch to have its own pp to spend (we had a discussion about that on the same day, too).
Plus, the story is told from his point of view. It goes from person to person, but the story revolves around Torvek- specifically.
The PP is a balancing abstraction designed to make sure that no single poster do more than they should in a given period of time. Its not as if our gods are constantly wearing themselves out and then being revitalized when the next turn begins... thats just an abstraction put on top of the story we're telling. If you *want* Torvek to be there, thats fine, but if you don't, thats also fine. Trust me.
Likely in about an hour, Xeadin. Might be more as shadow just had something come up.
And... I explained to you a few days ago about how your god spends PP... Torvek doesn't have to be there for Correloth to spend his PP, remember?
Oh, and Xeadin, the relevant post comes a few posts later... I gave you a day or so to respond.
The pillar of flame continued to drift along the ocean currents until it was sucked into a strange new place filled with sharks and sahaguin. There it came to a rest, giving light to the black waters of The Deep.
Except I meant the Great Sea.
Again, Chapien- AnubisDread: Are you guys okay with the Dark-spawn template?
Xeadin, you might want to wait a little while. They might not be online right now, and have not yet read your question. Give it time, be patient
Aradeia
Thanks for the heads-up.
Turn 57 begins now. 14,250 years have elapsed since the beginning of existence.
PP Refresh
8 - Veros
7 -
6 - Hensen Jijou, The Empress, Shurka, Mara, Nixis, Kiptar, Chroma
5 - Eijra, Hammu, Azor-Chapien
4 - Ythrexle, Torvek, Ashralan
@Xeadin: Sure, fine, go ahead.
@ff6shadow: Why are the percentages gone?
Oh, dear. Um, Chapien... Corelloth's not fooling around any more...
@Xeadin: Sure, fine, go ahead.
@ff6shadow: Why are the percentages gone?
We're enterring the last few turns. I don't think extra PP will really change anything.
Percentages are gone because reset was already late as I had a busy day. Rather than delay the reset until tommorrow afternoon at the earliest, I reset now.
Woo, extra PP!
Anyway, still need to look through the IC (busy day, my brother came up to visit) but in reply to Xeadin's question, I have to say no, simply because it makes no sense for the slaadi to be infected with darkness when they're already the physical embodiment of the Chaos' corruption. Infecting them with darkness would sort of like be trying to light a fire on fire... plus since their elementals, they technically don't have any living tissue to be infected.
Too late Anubis . . he already did.
Xeadin, you're last post no longer workd. Neither Corelloth of the Monegar exist . . evenif they did, you couldn't enter the palace. The gates were sealed. It would take a PP expenditure to force you're way in
Xeadin, please delete and/or edit you're previous posts. Corelloth and that artifact never got remotely close to the Palace of Xa'an. . . . on an unrelated issue, I described the death and explosion enough . . I don'tthink you're descriptiong was very necessary. ;)
Woohoo! I'd have to say- that was pretty epic! Way to go, ff6shadow- it all worked out in the end! Corelloth is destroyed, and now Azora's torment is now half over...
What's next? Torvek gets to relax once again on Daelgar.
Woopie! (Does the victory dance...)
[EDIT]: Editing and Deleting is done! Anything else you'd like me to do?
The next LoC 3- I'll make sure to have the actions count! ...And this time- no more Corelloth!
you know- I was thinking:
For the LoC 3, I was thinking about instead of having the occupations/ skills for the mortals to learn to have like "Herbivology" and "Herbivology Mastery", I was thinking about having just the baseline occupations/ skills and use the Guide/ Teach action to actually advance the skill from basic to advanced to Mastery of the skill- so that we don't waste precious space and time, and it would make managing the mortal's skills alot easier.
However- in order to move them along like that, you'd have to make sure and not advance the skill along too quickly. That's one hurdle.
What do you think, ff6shadow? Do you think that's something to consider?
Um... er... I've been banned from the IRC channel it says. Why? Why?!?
I think Toph was fooling around with it testing it. . . I don't think he intended to leave it active overnight. . I'm sure you'll be freed when he wakes up . . . I'll meet you in #LoC2 though
How many PP to go before at least all the outer aether is converted to miasma? I have to be pretty close...
Okay, this is what you've been waiting for. The final reset for LoC2 will be happening VERY SOON. At the earliest, perhaps tomorrow... but definitely within the next week or two. After that, no more PP will be given out, and LoC3 will hopefully begin soon after, which is exciting!
Let me know how much more time your gods will want to wrap things up. I can't promise we can give you all all the time you want ("I need 4 months to create an alliance of monstrous swordfish,sea urchins, flying fish and mutated monkeys in order to build spaceships to conquer the Tsarok and then turn them into bananas" is probably not gonna fly ;)) but we'll do our best.
All I need to do is finish making the scourge dragon cycle (which I can do this cycle before the reset even), set things up so Russet trying to become a god and conquer the Nine Hells is a good campaign/adventure hook, and maybe if I have a little PP left spawn triceratops and tyrannosaurus like behemoths.. oh come on, you were all thinking it
All I need to do is to find a way to destroy that Mogenar that's headed towards Chroma...
... Then perhaps Torvek'll want to stay at Daelgar as a safespot- maybe others would like to stay at Daelgar?
The Astral Plane and Daelgar would be 2 safezones for the gods to retreat to for the end of LoC2... maybe...
So, I now have three ideas for gods for LoC 3-
Tash'karroth- God of the Reptiles, Ashron- God of Divine Ordinance, and Hiletra- Goddess of Secrets
Xeadin. I destroyed the Mogenar when I destroyed Correloth. It no longer exists either. Both were destroyed.
Xeadin, in the next LoC, gods appear as the domains are created. You may not get the god you want.
But add Scue'bce, god of protection, just for good measure :D
And I destroyed the second... what's a ma jigger, stupid forum not letting you see the posts you're replying to Didn't even need to spend any PP on it, since you just created it with fluff...
Well unless people want the game to end in an ice age, i was going to "heal" things up...
The second one didn't exist at all. I son't think he realized it was destroyed, and assumed it survived.
I don't really care about the world ending in an ice age, personally. What do you guys think?
I'd like there to be some sort of end to it... although by no means does that have to be something that is resolved by the time that our PP runs out... it could take another 5000 years to come back to normal, or have some epic quest be to change something to cause it to warm up again, etc, etc. Its giving me fun ideas at the moment, which is nice as I was pretty much completely out (hard to plan ahead when you know the game is going to end soon, right? )
I actually like the idea of ending in the beginning of an Ice Age... only the beginning, mind you. The lowering climate offers a wealth of plot hooks, like a villages only water supply freezing solid, or odd beasts usually only found in the arctic north wandering south. Plus like Topeph said, a grand epic quest to restore the balance of the weather would be a pretty good campaign hook.
I actually like the idea of ending in the beginning of an Ice Age... only the beginning, mind you. The lowering climate offers a wealth of plot hooks, like a villages only water supply freezing solid, or odd beasts usually only found in the arctic north wandering south. Plus like Topeph said, a grand epic quest to restore the balance of the weather would be a pretty good campaign hook.
I like that idea too, let's keep it :p
I still have a few things to do (but I'll just save some for the future LoC so we can end as we like), However I'd like to know in advance when the last PP reset is going to be, as I have a "departing gift" that I want to leave before I go...
Btw about how the story end I don't really like of "the Council of Veros just decide that the game is over, and that's it" I'd prefer some sort of "even" conflict (lasting a few days and ultimately won by the "leavers" faction) before the gods definitely abandon the world. What do you think about that?
Xeadin. I destroyed the Mogenar when I destroyed Correloth. It no longer exists either. Both were destroyed.
WTF???
No- only Corelloth's mogenar was destroyed! You did not go to the chaos to destroy the Gateway- nowhere in the IC thread does it say that!
Xeadin, in the next LoC, gods appear as the domains are created. You may not get the god you want.
But add Scue'bce, god of protection, just for good measure :D
What do you mean? That's not possible, Topheh. We can create our own gods!
If that's the case, then hows the first god going to come in without any domains to choose?
I'm gonna assume that when you called chapien Topheh, it was actually a cry for help in repudiating his vile and baseless claims.
Sadly, he's right. as potential domains are made (after someone creates the first life, the life domain is an option, when it dies, the death domain is an option, when it gets raised as a zombie, the undeath domain is an option) we'll send PMs to everyone on the wait-list saying that there is a domain available. The first god who claims it makes the usual "my god is X" post, like in LoC2, but without choosing 3PP of domains... instead, your starting domain is whatever domain it was that just opened. At that point, you are the god of that domain, and after being ascended by a player, you can make your post. Your appearance, name, personality, etc are all yours... but the domain is more constrained.
As for the first God... obviously an exception must be made... at least one god has to be present in order to start everything off. In LoC1 it was a god coming from a place outside the universe and affixing himself into the universe forever, much like Torvek came from another universe. In LoC2, it was knowledge, spontaneously coming into being on its own. In LoC3... well... we shall see.
Nerdzul- yeah, we'll definitely make sure people know when the last reset is going to be.
Doesn't that last point about becoming able to play be still under discussion?
As in my humble opinion it is much more problematic for starting gods, and the pool was about new players not the starting ones so I don't think it should be considered binding.
Xeadin, you didn't create any kind of portal. The first reference to the Mogenar is you're create artifact. You never mentioned anything about a portal bringing them in.
Nerdzul, if you want to save your PP, go ahead and edit out the over-coming of the resistance, as I'm just going to improve and return it.
Nerdzul, whats the duration on that ritual? I like it.
But if its permanant, I don't.
Xeadin, you didn't create any kind of portal. The first reference to the Mogenar is you're create artifact. You never mentioned anything about a portal bringing them in.
There was no portal mentioned. What makes you think that?
No- the Mogenar is the Elemental Gateway- destroyed and reformed into a construct. Plain and simple.
Dude, this is weird- I'm at school, and the page for the Wizards forum looks all jumbled up. I'm only going to post from school periodically...
When and where was this Elemental Gateway created? Link to the post is preferable.
To Topheh.
Well its a ritual so it is limited in duration (and require material components to be used)
Dude, this is weird- I'm at school, and the page for the Wizards forum looks all jumbled up. I'm only going to post from school periodically...
Simple suggestion. Never try to post from school. It's a bad idea. I don't know about your school, but at my school, if your caught doing stuff that isn't part of school on the computer, not only do you lose computer privileges but you also get detention...
Dude, this is weird- I'm at school, and the page for the Wizards forum looks all jumbled up. I'm only going to post from school periodically...
Simple suggestion. Never try to post from school. It's a bad idea. I don't know about your school, but at my school, if your caught doing stuff that isn't part of school on the computer, not only do you lose computer privileges but you also get detention...
I was just doing a quick check- there was no background, and the texts and links were all screwed up... Plain and simple, it was just weird...
I have nothing else to say.ff6shadow: Okay, the Elemental Mogenar never existed. You win.
Response to an earlier idea:
An Ice age, hmmm? I'd give that idea a go. It would suggest why the gods had to move out, to my opinion.
The Gods... had to leave... because... it... got... cold? These gods survive in the void before matter and time... I don't think they're gonna be scared about a little cold.
Also... look at everyone else's posts. The Ice Age is NOW. We're discussing whether or not we want to end it before the game does.
You could focus on the Miasma. It is, on some sense, supposed to be apocolyptic, eating everything in its path and converting it to more miasma. If necessary put 3 pp into it and have it decreate 1 point of existance every "turn." The gods leaving might contain it or destroy it, could be a solution.
Some form of out-of-control matter- unleashed how? The miasma could work... I guess it could come from anywhere, really...
Oh, I'm very aware of the Miasma... gotta figure out a way not to have all my peoples up there die because of it
So, I'm busy beginning to put together a capstone page for the game. Something to go on the wiki that gives a brief synopsis of the state of the world, and especially any plot hooks for those parts of the world. Many of you have already given me ideas of what you would like to be remembered, but for the rest of you (and those who have already answered, as I didn't ask for plot hooks before), if you could just reply with a few paragraphs of info and plot hooks, it'd be greatly appreciated.
So, for instance, I'll want to remember the Children of the Aether, how they began as a refuge from the third war, how they expanded to be an aether-spanning nation, and how they are now in dire straights because they have lost their ability to generate more air, and they are running out. Plot Hook: There is an artifact to fix it, but it is scattered in three pieces across the world.
I'll also want to remember the Circle, who... etc etc, etc...
Thanks guys
I'd be more than happy to post a summary of everything Chroma was involved in, hooks etc, once I've finished using my PP for the last cycle... there's still a few things he needs to do before I can make a good summary
Oh, of course. Just getting this into people's minds.
S:/ ...I think that was a little too rash, Topheh- the way you said that...
What is rash, Xeadin?
Oh, of course. Just getting this into people's minds.
That's what I meant by rash... It just sounds like sarcasm... I'm alittle sensitive about small details- I'm not trying to hammer you... It's just my nature. I'm alot different from all the 'other' teenagers... I'm a bit more serious.
Oh, you picked a bad day to push my buttons. You don't know what "rash" means, do you?
*insert rageful, harsh, truthful, but completely out of place for a public forum rant*
Oh, and one more thing. You are not 'sensitive to small details' nor are you 'more serious' than other teenagers. You have stood out like a sore thumb as the least mature player ever since I started playing. When I find out about the ages of the people who play this game, oftentimes I am suprized as to how young they are, for they seem to be so old in their posts and their comments. You? I was surprized you were so old.
You just went waaaaaaaaaay too far, Tophehe. ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT I'M AN F___ING 2 YEAR OLD?????????
HOW DARE YOU TALK TO ME THAT WAY!!!!
Maybe if I wasn't a retarded dumbnut, I wouldn't be asking questions! Thanks alot! Now I'm pissed off!!!
I would reccomend that such conversations as the one above this post would be kept in private and not done on a public forum.
Thank you very much.
No Aldii, you're right. I apologize to you and to everyone else for letting my emotions get the better of me and posting this here. Xeadin just somehow managed to hit all of the right buttons on a day which, for a variety of reasons, I was extra suceptible to it. PMs are the correct forum for what I posted above, but... honestly, looking at it now, there's no forum where thats acceptible, and I apologize to all of you, and you too, Xeadin.
But seriously, man, please just let other people come to their own conclusions about what I wrote meant... what I wrote was in no way rash OR sarcastic, and the implications that it was, along with your claim to be 'better' than other teenagers, just... well, it let the rage bubble over.
No Aldii, you're right. I apologize to you and to everyone else for letting my emotions get the better of me and posting this here. Xeadin just somehow managed to hit all of the right buttons on a day which, for a variety of reasons, I was extra suceptible to it. PMs are the correct forum for what I posted above, but... honestly, looking at it now, there's no forum where thats acceptible, and I apologize to all of you, and you too, Xeadin.
But seriously, man, please just let other people come to their own conclusions about what I wrote meant... what I wrote was in no way rash OR sarcastic, and the implications that it was, along with your claim to be 'better' than other teenagers, just... well, it let the rage bubble over.
Yes- I apologize to everyone (including Topheh). Just had a little misinterpretation with the last post before the argument broke out.
And no- I'm in no way claiming to be the better teenager- I'm just more of the down-to-earth kind (sorry for the misconception, Topheh)- the others are like wound up in their stereotypical minds that they are better than others... pfftt...
I just don't want the walls of civilization to come crumbling down, to put it in simpler terms.
I wish you the best, Topheh. Let's hope for the LoC3 to be better than ever- like one person said, "Third time's the charm!"
Speaking of LoC 3, do you have a good idea for your character, Topheh? (Gotta run back to school!)
Save-the-world quest done.
I would be interested in the death domain perhaps for next game.
What if the domain that you want to have isn't created? For example I was thinking of being a god of spiders. What if that domain was never made?
Well, you can create a domain- after you select the domain(s) that you want. Which reminds me...
ff6shadow- Do gods pick the standard domains with 3pp as usual, or is the system for choosing domains different for LoC 3?
Nope! You start with a single domain, minor, moderate, or major, depending on what domain was made before you come in.
Xeadin has the right of it. After you get your first domain, there's nothing to prevent you from picking up another one.
And Nerdzul: Can do... its a shame all my PP is spent aside from artifact PP... well... actually... mmm...
Thanks for the heads up guys- I was just checking to see if the system for picking up domains had changed... I guess not...
So far, everything else is still the same- except for a few changes...
Like age and labor advancements for the Mortals, and a Daily PP system...
But so far, I guess everything else is in the norm.
. . . . you know what,I'm not even going to bother.
MassiveAttack, you're Create Plane action is invalid. Creating a plane requires 2 PP.
Today's gonna be our last Refresh, right? I still have some unfinished business with my island...
Okay all, game's ending! Last reset will be tuesday We'll take a little time off, give us a chance to reset our minds from this LoC and prepare for the next one, and then we'll get started!
. . . . you know what,I'm not even going to bother.
MassiveAttack, you're Create Plane action is invalid. Creating a plane requires 2 PP.
I believe I still have a create PP from an artifact left so just use that to finish it.
Seems like a lot of you like the PbP games you've got going on. Is there any room in any of them that I can join in on?
Topheph, out of curiosity, just what is a group theme? I don't have the DMG2 And I've never heard of it before...
Also, just a heads up, I'm currently doing a pre-traineeship course, so I won't be able to contribute as much as I have been... and with the time differences I won't be in the chat as much either.
group themes are... basically expanded monster templates designed to be used across multiple creatures. I'm about to upload my idea for the Word Adepts... there. lordsofcreation.wikia.com/wiki/Nixis#Tem....
Basically, they're designed to be themes for monsters. So, for instance, if your big bad is going to be demigoron, you can reflavor your monsters with a group theme for 'Demigoron Cultist' and modify them slightly, giving them one or two new abilities and appearances in order to tie together potentially disparate parts of the campaign into a cohesive whole. So, when those zombies have tentacles for arms, you know that a Demigoron cult is hiding out somewhere nearby, etc...
The Word Adepts aren't exactly meant to be monsters, but more a group united in a shared cause and with a special marking of their shared purpose.
Kind of like how the Dark-spawn template was applied to both the Azorans and the Slaadi. The template was designed specifically to be applied to anything that was affected by the darkness in some physical way.
Xeadin, shut up. You are not an admin. It is not your responsibility to correct other players, nor do you have any right to be doing so. AnubisDread's expenditure is clear enough for me to records it properly. It it was not, I will say something, not you. Is that clear? Now please delete that post.
Anubis, there is a small problem in your post . . . you don't have free molds in the Chaos. Aradeia created the plane, and I don't recall any action on your part to claim it.
Nerdzul, can you clarify exactly what you are doing to the leylines for me?
Oh okay, not a problem. I just figured Chroma was close enough to it for it to count as his domain so to speak, but I can see how without the rules to back it up there's not really any basis for it ^_^; Editted... didn't really need the extra 2PP anyway
Nerdzul, can you clarify exactly what you are doing to the leylines for me?
Tapping on their power (only fluffwise) and some of the new "veins" are linked to the places with many ley lines intersections.
Uh, Topheh, if the children come back every so often doesn't that mean they have to go through the miasma? Not that I am going to go after you on it (Ekluag, otoh ).
Anyways, is there a decided closing official closing/end time?
I think I know who I'm gonna be now for LoC 3...
Latholaneau- God of Magic (more specifically, the Arcane Arts)
Yes. The final closing time is going to be Sunday night into monday morning, 12 AM Eastern Standard Time.
Is there an exact date for when LoC3 begins?
Oh, I should have been more specific about that... they use the Arch to get back and forth. Otherwise, yeah... they'd be quickly miasmized.
Can someone please explain why I am banned from the LoC chat?
Wow, the EXACT same thing happened to me o.o; I have no idea why...
I think we're all unbanned now.
Aradeia did it. All is well.
Gah, I feel all guilty now...
Okay, isn't today supposed to be the last day or something? Who's gone, and who still needs to go? What are we going to do about people who can't post today?
Oooh... I just had another idea pop into my head- resolving around PP producing Artifacts and Exarches- I was thinking about having them produce 1pp for one day and if that 1pp isn't spent, then another pp would be produced and stacked on that 1pp to make it 2pp. The 2pp would be the maximum limit, and if that wasn't spent, then it just resets to 1pp the next day and continues that pattern. This is just an idea- it doesn't need to be incorporated into the LoC 3, but it was something that came into my head...
Of course, you can't take pp from both exarches and artifacts at once- it would have to be one or the other at a time.
I am keeping a log of which gods have left and which are still playing and which have left.
Remaining Gods: Veros, Shurka, Chapien, Ashralan
Gods who have left: Mara, Nixis, Chroma, Kiptar, Torvek, Hensen, Empress,Ythrexle
I'm done. Just standing by...
My cat's being weird right now...
I'm leaving the rest of my PP (14) to Veros. Use them wisely .
Aaaannnndddd..... Game!
Thanks everyone for such a wonderful experience. I think we're made something really special.
So, with the game over, Im gonna reiterate my request from earlier. If people could put together a little paragraph or summary of the current state of your creations and any plot hooks you'd like... Im going to take the time off to finish off the game history and create a 'the world today' page for quick skimming for plot ideas. Look for the LoC3 OOC/recruitment/rules thread soon!
~Toph.
Aradeia, I was thinking of writing you a PM that you could tag to the end of your post explaining how Shurka left. It sucks how I wasn't able to post yesterday.
Or maybe we should just lock it now.
Okay, set up a skeleton page. Im not even pretending that its got everything that might want to be touched upon, but it was all I could think up off the top of my head in a few minutes Please help me out in filling it out.
mine doesn't really have a plot hook, except that the Dracos are starting to learn how to travel. They aren't really accustomed to war yet, but with time they will know soon enough.
Is it to late to post the current status of Azora?
its never too late!