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| #1EntriganNov 27, 2008 23:00:31 | This may seem like a stupid question, but if you are not the level listed on the module can you play it? At the DnD Experience it seems that if I am not at least 7th level it would be a waste of time to go. Also, in order to play in 5th level modules does my 2nd character essentially have to play the same mods my first did? |
| #2amysrevengeNov 27, 2008 23:31:47 | This may seem like a stupid question, but if you are not the level listed on the module can you play it? Nope. It's a "known issue" with DDXP. |
| #3Dragon9Nov 28, 2008 8:34:54 | This may seem like a stupid question, but if you are not the level listed on the module can you play it? *waves his hand mysteriously* All your questions have answers! They can be found by gazing into the crystal RPGA Character Creation Guide... But to make it easy, no you can't. If you are above or below the level bad you cannot play the mod. At the DnD Experience it seems that if I am not at least 7th level it would be a waste of time to go. Yup. DDXP has been named a con to cater to the more hardcore RPGA player. As such, there isn't a lot of low level stuff. If you're looking for low level con stuff, wait for GenCon. GenCon is considered an "aquisition" convention. i.e. a Con where they look to gain new players. Also, in order to play in 5th level modules does my 2nd character essentially have to play the same mods my first did? No... there's lots of mods out to play. Including adapted adventures (Scepter Tower of spellguard and at least one Dungeon magazine adventure, plus Barrow of the Ogre King from the Forgotten Realms Campaign Guide). Scepter Tower of Spellguard will take a 1st level character up to 4th level IIRC. Barrow gives you almost a full level if you are a fresh 1st level PC. My second character is almost third and I've only played two adventures with him (Barrow and the limited Weekend in the Realms adventures... which was actually split and reported in 3 parts, so I guess technically he's played 4). However, you can replay if you wish. |
| #4matteblackNov 28, 2008 8:35:36 | You definitely have time to get to 7th. 3 months in and there are many people with 7th level characters. There would probably be many more if the 4-7 mods had been released earlier. If you were starting a character today, Nov.28th, you would basically need to play around a mod a week and attend a weekend convention or a few 3-slot gamedays. Playing up, playing tier 4-7mods as soon as you hit 4th and playing the core special after the beginning of the year should make for a good boost. |
| #5Keith53Nov 28, 2008 8:39:13 | This may seem like a stupid question, but if you are not the level listed on the module can you play it? At the DnD Experience it seems that if I am not at least 7th level it would be a waste of time to go. Also, in order to play in 5th level modules does my 2nd character essentially have to play the same mods my first did? No matter the event, in LFR your character must be in the level range of the adventure to play it. Since LFR campaign is publishing enough adventures so far, that at least two, and likely three (if you count the adaptables) characters could advance to 4th or 5th level, the answer is "no," your second character does not have to play the same mods as your first. With the replay rule, it would be legal to do that, but IMO boring. Play the adventures you have not played yet is my advice. Note the mid range is 4-7. More LFR adventures of various heroic tier levels will be published in 2009 adding yet more options for heroic tier play. Keith |
| #6tirianmalNov 28, 2008 15:55:46 | Yup. DDXP has been named a con to cater to the more hardcore RPGA player. As such, there isn't a lot of low level stuff. If you're looking for low level con stuff, wait for GenCon. GenCon is considered an "aquisition" convention. i.e. a Con where they look to gain new players. And it should be noted by the PTB that this is a serious issue for some players. I don't consider myself "hardcore", but I'm definitely not a new player. And I suspect that there's a very large "middle ground" of players that are in the same place I am. So in addition to the location, the second major reason I'm not going to DDXP this year (note, I've gone for 4 out of the last 5 years) is precisely because I don't believe there'd be a point (for me) to be going. I certainly wouldn't be playing anything new or exciting. |
| #7Dragon9Nov 28, 2008 16:18:40 | Well, that's your choice. I have never been to any of the DDXPs (or Winter... whatever it was before).There is more to DDXP than LFR though. |
| #8telvin3dNov 28, 2008 17:15:56 | also, DDXP is running many adventures for 4th level and up. If you don't have a forth level character yet and don't expect to have one after two more months of play then I think it is a bit of a stretch to describe yourself as even a regular player. Considering the LFR campaign will have been running for half a year by the time DDXP happens I don't think it is unreasonable to expect most regular players to have at least one 4th level character. |
| #9smerwin29Nov 28, 2008 17:37:55 | And it should be noted by the PTB that this is a serious issue for some players. Your best bet for making your wishes heard is by going to http://ddxp.baldmangames.com and reading what is posted on the front page, and then going into the forums there. The LFR admin staff has no control over what is offered at DDXP; the decision was up to WotC and Dave Christ. I have heard their reasons for running what they are running, and I understand why. I know that people who do not have 4th level (or 7th level) characters are not happy, and I understand that too. Be aware, though, that if you have at least a 4th level character by the end of January, you can play 6 LFR events plus play in the (non-LFR) Convention Special as well as the Dungeon Delve. Even if you only have a 1st-level character when you arrive, you can play in 3 LFR events plus the (non-LFR) Convention Special and the Dungeon Delve. In addition, DMs who are not needed to DM in their scheduled event, plus some reserve DMs, will be on hand to run games if a table of 1st-level characters shows up and wants to play. There are also a number of seminars for those who would like to hear from (and talk to) a number of WotC staffers in attendance. Thanks, Shawn LFR Global Admin |
| #10tirianmalNov 28, 2008 23:04:10 | Thanks for that update, Shawn. But I appear to be missing something. How would someone with a level 4 PC play more than 4 LFR events (other than doubling up on games)? There are only 4 level 4-7 modules listed in the events section at the DDXP website. Edit: I found it. And it goes as high as 7 events due to the LFR open play. |
| #11rsouthardNov 29, 2008 8:13:45 | Just a silly suggestion.... If there are a lot of people wanting to play lower level mods, then these people should get together and play. DDXP has an open play area. I know it is not as exciting as playing new adventures, but you can still play. |
| #12tirianmalNov 29, 2008 8:48:16 | I love how that's often the answer I get. If the reverse were true, I'm really not sure you'd like it if the Open Games was for the high level stuff (never happen, I know) Why would I go to DDXP for that? Seriously, if that's what is offered, I get that at my FLGS or at home. I don't need to spend that much money to get it. |
| #13rsouthardNov 29, 2008 13:55:53 | Well the question is why do you want to go to DDXP at all? Any game they schedule is available for play at your FLGS. All but the special will be released for download right about the same time as the convention. People go to gaming conventions for two reasons. #1 People. Gamers are a social lot and like to hang out with other gamers. #2 Opportunity and escape. A convention gives us a places to play and people to play it with. It also gives us an excuse to schedule a block of time to do nothing but game. |
| #14tirianmalNov 29, 2008 14:45:49 | While those are certainly reasons I go to conventions, they aren't the only ones. Folks go to conventions for many more reasons than those you gave. Among them are the chance to get previews, to get access to "those in the know", or see games/products/exclusives that might not be accessible elsewhere just to name a few. I'm not saying that DDXP is being evil, or bad or failing as a convention, but I think this year it -is- failing to address a part of its market that has been loyal in the past. and here I can only speak for myself but that market is/was me. If you're still going and there's enough to draw you there, great, but your suggestion didn't actually address my complaint so much as merely go around it. |
| #15matteblackNov 29, 2008 15:41:08 | I'm not saying that DDXP is being evil, or bad or failing as a convention, but I think this year it -is- failing to address a part of its market that has been loyal in the past. and here I can only speak for myself but that market is/was me. It would seem to me that the part of the market they are failing is those that want to play more LFR modules in one weekend at DDXP than they have in the campaign's first 5 months any place it may have run. At the bare minimum, a new LFR player could play in 3 open slots. If they have played more than 7 slots on one character before attending, 4 more slots probably open up at the level 4-7tier for a total of 7. Catering to provide more content to a group in one weekend than they have made the effort to participate in since early August just seems like a bad idea. Not that those players don't exist but, it seems like it would be a pretty small grouping. |
| #16rsouthardNov 29, 2008 17:15:31 | While those are certainly reasons I go to conventions, they aren't the only ones. Folks go to conventions for many more reasons than those you gave. Among them are the chance to get previews, to get access to "those in the know", or see games/products/exclusives that might not be accessible elsewhere just to name a few. I will concede that my list is not exhaustive, but I covered the big ones. That being said, looking at the reasons you added I must reiterate my point. What do any of those things have to do with the adventures offered? A person could go to DDXP and spend all their time at the Delve and still experience all the things I listed as well as the things on your list. So what is it a person going to DDXP with a 1st level character is going to miss out on that they can only get at DDXP? |
| #17LyonHeartedNov 29, 2008 20:37:29 | I'm headed to XP. It will be my first convention. I've currently got a 3rd level and 4th level character. At XP, I've signed up for the four 4-7 level slots and two 7-10 level slots on the third day. I figure that I've got to show up with at least one PC that's at least half way thru 5th level so that I meet the prerequisites for the third day adventures. tirianmal, you say that there are more than 4 events for 4-7 level PC's? Are you counting the 3 open slots to make the 7 total slots you mentioned? I only see 4 slots for levels 4-7. |
| #18tirianmalNov 29, 2008 22:51:47 | Lyon, I wasn't the one who came up with the number, that's from a post made by Shawn I believe. I too can only get to 7 slots if I count the 3 slots of LFR Open. Otherwise, yes, there are 4 slots of level 4-7 games. |