Race Creation Cards

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#1

smokesignals

Feb 03, 2009 15:26:54
With the Shadar-Kai article this month wizards is basically voiding an RPGA creation card. Soon to be followed by Gnomes in march. So, is there anything that people can do with their outdated creation cards? Could there be some special benefit for them?

Just curious. I'd hate to see those cards go to waist.
#2

arvagor

Feb 03, 2009 16:27:39
Just curious. I'd hate to see those cards go to waist.

Usually avoided by not eating them...
#3

Darkwolf_Bloodsbane

Feb 03, 2009 16:48:01
Usually avoided by not eating them...

Ahh, typos.

Derailing more threads than flamewars ever will.
#4

Dragon9

Feb 03, 2009 17:20:34
The benefit was: You got to play them before anyone else. They've never published "errata" for reward cards, so i doubt they'll do anything with these.
#5

sutro

Feb 03, 2009 17:24:28
I can think of one!

The cards give you access to the race as outlined in the Monster Manual... so, theoretically, if the gnome or Shadar-Kai come out with a different set of powers that you don't like, you would have access to them. I know I would've rather played a MM minotaur than the version that came out in Dragon.

Of course, the argument that "latest rules matter most" might come into play here, but just trying to throw something out there for discussion.

-Sutro
#6

waytoomuchcoffee

Feb 03, 2009 17:30:04
I expect that retiring the cards is the plan, so as not to give some an advantage. Similar to publishing all the reward cards as a pdf. My prediction is we get an orc article soon.
#7

Dragon9

Feb 03, 2009 18:13:28
Of course, the argument that "latest rules matter most" might come into play here, but just trying to throw something out there for discussion.

Pardon me for a moment as I clear my throat... ahem... cough... *hack, hork, ptui*... according to the CCG you have to use the most up to date rules for any rules item that you use. So even with a promo card you would have to use the updated rules for the race. The rule does not make any exceptions for rules items gained via campaign documentation.

#8

22_Over_7

Feb 03, 2009 18:38:44
It also frees up a card from your stack.
#9

sehmerus

Feb 03, 2009 18:41:38
One of the players in my group mentioned that the CCG states that those races specifically need the promo card to play, and his interpretation is that even if the rules are considered open source you will still need the card because the CCG saying you need the card cant be trumped with a generic rule of them being available, I have not gone back to re-read teh ccg wording (mostly because i dont care about the promo races) but if hes right then perhaps teh promo cards are not worthless after all.

someone migh twant to check the wording.
#10

_metz_

Feb 03, 2009 19:07:23
I can think of one!

The cards give you access to the race as outlined in the Monster Manual... so, theoretically, if the gnome or Shadar-Kai come out with a different set of powers that you don't like, you would have access to them. I know I would've rather played a MM minotaur than the version that came out in Dragon.

Of course, the argument that "latest rules matter most" might come into play here, but just trying to throw something out there for discussion.

-Sutro

Actually the cards just say you can play one, it doesn't state the source, so you would have to use the most up to date copy of the rules.

meh, I draw some solace from the fact that it will be a while before they invalidate my ORC card.
#11

josephkell

Feb 03, 2009 21:40:36
So, is there anything that people can do with their outdated creation cards? Could there be some special benefit for them?

I use old reward cards for PC Stand Ups.

Reward Card Stand Up
Step 1: Measure the card.

Step 2: Design stand up on the computer (make sure to print it so that when folded both sides make sense). I put information such as PC's name, my name, PC's race/class, PC's home region, PC's height/weight (although I might start leaving this off), Passive Insight/Perception, languages spoken.

Step 3: Fold the old reward card in half.

Step 4: Print and cut out the stand up. Attach to reward card with glue stick (Elmer's Glue can cause weird ink color shifts).
#12

Dragon9

Feb 03, 2009 22:15:58
One of the players in my group mentioned that the CCG states that those races specifically need the promo card to play, and his interpretation is that even if the rules are considered open source you will still need the card because the CCG saying you need the card cant be trumped with a generic rule of them being available, I have not gone back to re-read teh ccg wording (mostly because i dont care about the promo races) but if hes right then perhaps teh promo cards are not worthless after all.

The most up to date rule would be the PHB 2 being open player content which would include the gnome, or the February compiled issue of Dragon which would include the Shadar-Kai. Needing the card would be the old rule.
#13

JohnduBois

Feb 04, 2009 7:36:38
One of the players in my group mentioned that the CCG states that those races specifically need the promo card to play, and his interpretation is that even if the rules are considered open source you will still need the card because the CCG saying you need the card cant be trumped with a generic rule of them being available, I have not gone back to re-read teh ccg wording (mostly because i dont care about the promo races) but if hes right then perhaps teh promo cards are not worthless after all.

someone migh twant to check the wording.

I asked Chris Tulach about this at DDXP. He said that once PHB2 is out and legal for use, I have a card in my gnome's stack freed up.
#14

sehmerus

Feb 04, 2009 14:04:51
I just noticed, that the shadar-kai preview that was once scheduled for this friday was taken off of the calendar of release (tho it still listed on the contents page) makes me wonder if maybe we wont get the Sharda-kai after all.
#15

sehmerus

Feb 04, 2009 14:08:13
I just noticed, that the shadar-kai preview that was once scheduled for this friday was taken off of the calendar of release (tho it still listed on the contents page) makes me wonder if maybe we wont get the Sharda-kai after all.

Never mind they just moved the article from friday to monday the 16th