After a hard fought battle (including a couple party members turning traitor and siding with the enemy) we managed to force the BBEG to retreat but not before disarming him of his uber powerful item.
This uber powerful item is listed on the AR under items found with adventure access.
Now I knew that it would be ridiculously expensive but I figured I would look up the price out of curiosity. After a few confused minutes I discovered that there is no price.
So what is the deal? Is this item free to everyone who plays the mod? Was there a mistake and the price not included on the AR?
If anyone knows how to get a hold of Creighton Broadhurst please forward him to this topic.
I emailed Creighton about it two weeks ago; no response as of yet.
-Matt
Well in the mean time, free *thing*s for everyone who manages to defeat the guy in the place!
Hardly free!
Creighton's email address, like all campaign staff, is in the LGCS.
Hardly free!
Creighton's email address, like all campaign staff, is in the LGCS.
We were wondering that too Joe, seems a bit odd and almost put there as a joke.
Which is peculiar considering the circumstances.
I know people have emailed Creighton about this weeks ago and haven't gotten a response. Can *someone* in authority get this answered please?
Thanks...
any can roll a 1 on a d20. even the dm i seen it happened at southern gen Con. Whole table was amazed. With the campiann already wrapping up i dought they print up a new ar or errata. The ar take presents over any thing else. Any correction need a new ar need to come through. Since no price on that staff there for it free. End of storie. it was a lovely present for wiz
According to the PHB any item with a dash like thiss"----" means free.
any can roll a 1 on a d20. even the dm i seen it happened at southern gen Con. Whole table was amazed. With the campiann already wrapping up i dought they print up a new ar or errata. The ar take presents over any thing else. Any correction need a new ar need to come through. Since no price on that staff there for it free. End of storie. it was a lovely present for wiz
That means absolutely nothing.
The item is most definitely not free, and if the AR is incorrect, than it is assumed to not be able to be purchased. This is why we are asking.
Don't go making sweeping statements on things like that if they aren't backed up by ANYTHING. LG ARs have nothing to do with PHB and DMG item acquisition, in case you haven't noticed.
According to the PHB any item with a dash like thiss"----" means free.
any can roll a 1 on a d20. even the dm i seen it happened at southern gen Con. Whole table was amazed. With the campiann already wrapping up i dought they print up a new ar or errata. The ar take presents over any thing else. Any correction need a new ar need to come through. Since no price on that staff there for it free. End of storie. it was a lovely present for wiz
See? Proves my point...
This kind of crazy talk begs for an official resolution. If it's free, I'm going to buy 1000 of them and hand them out to kids as candy. I'll then lead a 1000 kid march against Turosh Mak. After easily wiping out his armies, we'll take on IUZ and his pitiful forces. WOOHOO!!!
(yes - sarcasm is annoying, so is the notion of those being free)
Unless an errata comes out with a price, you can't have the item.
Any chance of getting an errata with an actual price?
I guess in the mean time I'll print up this thread and carry it around with me in case anyone else asks.
According to the PHB any item with a dash like thiss"----" means free.
any can roll a 1 on a d20. even the dm i seen it happened at southern gen Con. Whole table was amazed. With the campiann already wrapping up i dought they print up a new ar or errata. The ar take presents over any thing else. Any correction need a new ar need to come through. Since no price on that staff there for it free. End of storie. it was a lovely present for wiz
Not surprising. Idiotic, but not surprising.
Ok, what likely happened is that someone didn't realize that those types of items do not have prices listed. When an item is included on an AR and the item has a listed price in the referenced book (no calculations are required), we do not include the price on the AR. This is to avoid confusion of typos, erratas, or other types of contradicting prices. My personal rule was that if any calculation was needed, the price was listed; in all other cases, the price was left off. So if someone thought the item had a price, a fairly reasonable assumption, they wouldn't think to come up with one for the AR.
Unless an errata comes out with a price, you can't have the item.
Well as i say Unless the errata come out it free according to PHB. According to anouther one your post Ar take presendent over anything.No price listed it free.End of storry
Also here quote from circle member on Any mater vs ar
" Unless a correction AR or an official AR errata is issued, the AR always takes precedence.
-Steven Conforti, the Circle
Well as i say Unless the errata come out it free according to PHB. According to anouther one your post Ar take presendent over anything.No price listed it free.End of storry
That makes no sense and is not grounded in ANYTHING.
Based on PRECEDENT if there is no price than it CANNOT be purchased without an errata. Don't cite precedent if you don't know what the word means or are just making it up.
No sane DM would allow you to have that item for free, and any that would I do not consider fit to DM in the Living Greyhawk campaign. If DnD is about your character winning than I'd suppose you'd argue for it. But it's not; it is a team game, and ideally (_ideally_) is reasonably balanced to provide a challenge to you without needlessly killing PCs or the PCs winning with no effort, hence the reward of experience.
Don't try to exploit the system. That's just lame.
According to the PHB any item with a dash like thiss"----" means free.
any can roll a 1 on a d20. even the dm i seen it happened at southern gen Con. Whole table was amazed. With the campiann already wrapping up i dought they print up a new ar or errata. The ar take presents over any thing else. Any correction need a new ar need to come through. Since no price on that staff there for it free. End of storie. it was a lovely present for wiz
Well as i say Unless the errata come out it free according to PHB. According to anouther one your post Ar take presendent over anything.No price listed it free.End of storry
This means absolutely nothing. There is no "----" listed next to this item in the DMG for price so even if that rule did apply generically across books, it doesn't apply in this case. What you've done, simply, is invented a price of 0 and are trying to justify cheating with an off-base and unfounded rules argument.
Please don't cheapen the campaign by corrupting further tables you join. You may want your final LG days stained by cheating, I doubt the other players and DMs around you want the same. At least I hope not.
Well as i say Unless the errata come out it free according to PHB. According to anouther one your post Ar take presendent over anything.No price listed it free.End of storry
Also here quote from circle member on Any mater vs ar
" Unless a correction AR or an official AR errata is issued, the AR always takes precedence.
-Steven Conforti, the Circle
I under stand people have different oppoins. Which i respect, well all i have to say PEople make some mistake.We are all human i will live with circle dession. Every one human but i thank you there be no more post from me on this matter clear. My only advise please review the ar before release with the mod.
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yes, I'm kidding
Is it intended to just be unpurchasable?
Even if the price was in the 600k range I could see characters being able to afford one with one of those ridiculous discount favors I see some regions giving away.
I fully agree though, if it is to be purchasable, it needs to have a price. Also, if it was "Adventure" access before, it should become "Core" or "Any" to accommodate people who wanted to purchase it but had to wait for many ARs before an errata which gave pricing.
my 2 gp...
Even if the price was in the 600k range I could see characters being able to afford one with one of those ridiculous discount favors I see some regions giving away.
Some time ago, a few of us calculated what an LG PC could earn over his "lifetime" -- IIRC, a PC can get around 300,000 gp, at most. I have never seen a discount favor greater than 50%, so unless a PC has never spent a single earned gp, then the purchase ain't gonna happen (how many PCs do you know could survive at APL 16 with nothing more than their starting equipment from level 1?)
Some time ago, a few of us calculated what an LG PC could earn over his "lifetime" -- IIRC, a PC can get around 300,000 gp, at most.
There's a maximum number of times a PC can die? I didn't know.
There's a maximum number of times a PC can die? I didn't know.
Or just eat a ton of level drains.
Or, a certain regional mod where PCs got level drained in a very, very unfriendly plane...
There's a maximum number of times a PC can die? I didn't know.
I'm sorry... I guess I should have added, "..., as long as he doesn't intentionally go too far out of his way to get killed or level-drained, just to artificially drive up his wealth relative to his level..." :rolleye2:
And yes, I believe there is a limit -- IMHO, you can only be raised a number of times equal to your character's starting Con score*... ;)
All crafters however...
*Grumbles some more about the brokenness of crafter PCs in LG at high level - especially those who have died multiple times...*
My Crafter hasn't died once. However, the main reason he has the crafting feats is because of character concept (worships Moradin, god of the forge, and is a high priest, therefore required to make the weapons for the clan).
He was first PC, little did I know that crafting was so effective in LG...
My Crafter hasn't died once. However, the main reason he has the crafting feats is because of character concept (worships Moradin, god of the forge, and is a high priest, therefore required to make the weapons for the clan).
Well, then he really only needs one crafting feat -- Craft Magic Arms And Armor -- and not all those others ;)
A lot of the stuff on the CWI list is good for the dwarves too Arvagor...
My crafting wizard is only worth 489035 in magic items (not counting value of spells inside the BBBs, just the value of the BBBs themselves).
He has CWI, but has obviously bought a good # of metamagic Rods.
<<>> Does no one understand what this > ;) < even means anymore???
Means you were being a cheeky git, so was I.
Having over 150k cash after the end of year 2 and all its madness.
In COR 3-0* Through Nature to Eternity, the one where you go to the moon/celene.
The Robe of Vecna, has no price. Now i'm a little vague about it now and at the time i could not afford it, but I'm sure i found a price of 10,000 or 12,000gp and now that i can afford it I can't remember where the price came from?
Maybe a later AR or earlier, or a book that was 3.0 not sure if anyone can help that would be great.
It was up the top in the favours bit.
access (any)katrick
As long as you have levels to lose, you only lose levels. Con loss is a level 1 thing.