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#1
ornsjach_dup
May 24, 2008 13:22:19 ok i got 3 lg questions and well here i figured is the best place to get them answered
1st can a half elf get weapon prof elven court blade and elven thin blade via imp weapon on familiarity

2 can u buy said weapon now acourding to one doument Items Available to Purchase in Living Greyhawk as of LGCS 597CY(acourding to it u can buy any thing from Races of the Wild Table 7-1) but theres also an org that lets u buy them in keoland so its a bit on the confuseing side

3 does the kenshi have any extra cost if the sig weapon is also cold iron

thanks in advance
ornsjach
#2
thaigq
May 24, 2008 13:46:19
ok i got 3 lg questions and well here i figured is the best place to get them answered
1st can a half elf get weapon prof elven court blade and elven thin blade via imp weapon on familiarity

2 can u buy said weapon now acourding to one doument Items Available to Purchase in Living Greyhawk as of LGCS 597CY(acourding to it u can buy any thing from Races of the Wild Table 7-1) but theres also an org that lets u buy them in keoland so its a bit on the confuseing side

3 does the kenshi have any extra cost if the sig weapon is also cold iron

thanks in advance
ornsjach

1. Yes, a half-elf can gain those weapon proficiencies as part of Improved Weapon Familiarity.

2. Yes, according to LGCS 597CY, you have open access to the Elven Courtblade and Elven Thinblade. As for the Keoland meta-org that grants access, most likely the meta-org was created before the weapons were made open access.

3. The Kensai is a closed PrC in LG, so you can never gain access to it.
#3
ornsjach_dup
May 24, 2008 14:01:45 well that answers that
thanks gess i should remove kensai from my build
#4
timlagor
May 24, 2008 14:19:08 NB: you can gain proficiency in those weapons by taking the Weapon Familiarity feat but you will not have the EWP feat and therefore won't qualify for some things [specifically Champion of CL] (though some GMs might let you get away with it).
#5
mwao_dup
May 24, 2008 17:50:05
NB: you can gain proficiency in those weapons by taking the Weapon Familiarity feat but you will not have the EWP feat and therefore won't qualify for some things [specifically Champion of CL] (though some GMs might let you get away with it).

You will not specifically have the EWP feat. You will have the actual exact benefit required if you have Martial Proficiency. From a spirit of the rules, I think it is quite clear that you do have what Champion of CL wants.

This is one of those "Editor of Book X can't be sure you bought Book Y." i.e. they don't list every possible way of qualifying for something.
#6
timlagor
May 24, 2008 20:09:49 Oops meant to flag that as a source of table variation. I've now seen the OPs comments elsewhere though and he wasn't going in that direction anyway.

I have a niggling feeling this actually got settled in the FAQ or som'at though.

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#1 ornsjach_dup May 24, 2008 13:22:19	ok i got 3 lg questions and well here i figured is the best place to get them answered 1st can a half elf get weapon prof elven court blade and elven thin blade via imp weapon on familiarity 2 can u buy said weapon now acourding to one doument Items Available to Purchase in Living Greyhawk as of LGCS 597CY(acourding to it u can buy any thing from Races of the Wild Table 7-1) but theres also an org that lets u buy them in keoland so its a bit on the confuseing side 3 does the kenshi have any extra cost if the sig weapon is also cold iron thanks in advance ornsjach
#2 thaigq May 24, 2008 13:46:19	ok i got 3 lg questions and well here i figured is the best place to get them answered 1st can a half elf get weapon prof elven court blade and elven thin blade via imp weapon on familiarity 2 can u buy said weapon now acourding to one doument Items Available to Purchase in Living Greyhawk as of LGCS 597CY(acourding to it u can buy any thing from Races of the Wild Table 7-1) but theres also an org that lets u buy them in keoland so its a bit on the confuseing side 3 does the kenshi have any extra cost if the sig weapon is also cold iron thanks in advance ornsjach 1. Yes, a half-elf can gain those weapon proficiencies as part of Improved Weapon Familiarity. 2. Yes, according to LGCS 597CY, you have open access to the Elven Courtblade and Elven Thinblade. As for the Keoland meta-org that grants access, most likely the meta-org was created before the weapons were made open access. 3. The Kensai is a closed PrC in LG, so you can never gain access to it.
#3 ornsjach_dup May 24, 2008 14:01:45	well that answers that thanks gess i should remove kensai from my build
#4 timlagor May 24, 2008 14:19:08	NB: you can gain proficiency in those weapons by taking the Weapon Familiarity feat but you will not have the EWP feat and therefore won't qualify for some things [specifically Champion of CL] (though some GMs might let you get away with it).
#5 mwao_dup May 24, 2008 17:50:05	NB: you can gain proficiency in those weapons by taking the Weapon Familiarity feat but you will not have the EWP feat and therefore won't qualify for some things [specifically Champion of CL] (though some GMs might let you get away with it). You will not specifically have the EWP feat. You will have the actual exact benefit required if you have Martial Proficiency. From a spirit of the rules, I think it is quite clear that you do have what Champion of CL wants. This is one of those "Editor of Book X can't be sure you bought Book Y." i.e. they don't list every possible way of qualifying for something.
#6 timlagor May 24, 2008 20:09:49	Oops meant to flag that as a source of table variation. I've now seen the OPs comments elsewhere though and he wasn't going in that direction anyway. I have a niggling feeling this actually got settled in the FAQ or som'at though.