Mobile Spellcaster (CAr) allows casting a spell while moving as a standard action. I would interpretting this as the end of movement being the square of origin, under the logic that the spell still takes it's full std action to cast. Does this sound reasonable or overly restrictive? If overly restrictive, is there any limit on when the spell comes into effect; would you permit a cast with touch attack from the starting location and then moving away as the combined standard action?
I've been both ruling it (if I ever see it on anyone else), and playing this as effectively spring attack with a spell instead of an attack.
I haven't had any complaints regarding that from other players or judges.
I've been both ruling it (if I ever see it on anyone else), and playing this as effectively spring attack with a spell instead of an attack.
I haven't had any complaints regarding that from other players or judges.
That's how I thought it worked but I haven't checked the wording recently.
I've been both ruling it (if I ever see it on anyone else), and playing this as effectively spring attack with a spell instead of an attack.
Thx guys. I'll go with this. Appreciated.
I've been both ruling it (if I ever see it on anyone else), and playing this as effectively spring attack with a spell instead of an attack.
I haven't had any complaints regarding that from other players or judges.
How do you avoid Attacks of Opportunity?
How do you avoid Attacks of Opportunity?
By not provoking, maybe?
.. so does invisibility ..usually
By not provoking, maybe?
Choosing the path carefully, invisibility, cover. Defensive casting while moving is a cast iron pain, so I would avoid it as a player...
(For reference, I'm +24 or 25 concentration at 14th, so I want to avoid having to defensively cast since that makes for an actual chance of failure...)
Choosing the path carefully, invisibility, cover. Defensive casting while moving is a cast iron pain, so I would avoid it as a player...
(For reference, I'm +24 or 25 concentration at 14th, so I want to avoid having to defensively cast since that makes for an actual chance of failure...)
The guy I was running for on Sunday was tapping his Concentration for defensive 3rd level spells at 10th level that gives +10; can't recall the name right now.
Mobile Spellcaster (CAr) allows casting a spell while moving as a standard action. I would interpretting this as the end of movement being the square of origin, under the logic that the spell still takes it's full std action to cast. Does this sound reasonable or overly restrictive? If overly restrictive, is there any limit on when the spell comes into effect; would you permit a cast with touch attack from the starting location and then moving away as the combined standard action?
The feat says 'You can cast the spell and move up to your speed as a single standard action'. Thus I would say that the feat user would say 'I used a standard action: I cast spell X then move here with it'.
-James
The feat says 'You can cast the spell and move up to your speed as a single standard action'. Thus I would say that the feat user would say 'I used a standard action: I cast spell X then move here with it'.
-James
So what would you see as options for the origin spells for rays, say?
So what would you see as options for the origin spells for rays, say?
I would expect to be able to do it anywhere in the movement path, caster's choice. generally in a "mobile spellcasting, moving from here to cast here and end here" sort of declaration, with appropriate visual aids as needed.
I would expect to be able to do it anywhere in the movement path, caster's choice. generally in a "mobile spellcasting, moving from here to cast here and end here" sort of declaration, with appropriate visual aids as needed.
Yeah, I understand your opinion. I was asking James, since he had suggested something different.
The feat says 'You can cast the spell and move up to your speed as a single standard action'. Thus I would say that the feat user would say 'I used a standard action: I cast spell X then move here with it'.
-James
James, just to clarify your response:
Spellcaster: As my standard action, I move to here while casting spell X at the end of this movement, then I use my move action to move back over to here.
Is that what you mean?
Because that pretty much sounds like a spring attack for spellcasting to me.
So what would you see as options for the origin spells for rays, say?
At the most restrictive the feat user would be able to cast then move or move then cast for the standard action.
It seems reasonable to be able to mix the two and at some point during the movement (granted by the standard action) elect to cast the spell.
How do you typically rule people drawing a weapon while moving? Must they do so at the beginning/end of the move or somewhere in between? Not that it normally matters in that case, but if you allow that to be done in the middle of movement then the casting should be little different.
-James
It seems reasonable to be able to mix the two and at some point during the movement (granted by the standard action) elect to cast the spell.
This is what I went with, too. I concluded that requiring spell casting before or after was overly restrictive and was breaking with parallels for other move-and-standard feats such as Ride-by, Spring Attack, Fly-by Attack, Shot on the Run, etc.
David