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#1 DwarfFighter Jun 08, 2009 17:48:17	I am converting a sample creature for my campaign setting, and invite you to suggest an appropriate challenge rating: Basic Creature Traits: Natural Weapons (Ex): A creature have claws that function as natural weapons. A medium-size Creature deals 1d4 slashing damage (plus the Creature's Strength modifier) and threatens a critical hit on a natural 20. A large Creature deals 1d6 damage instead of 1d4. Skill Bonus: A creature gains a +4 species bonus to Hide, Move Silently and Survival. Creature CR X; Medium-size monstrous humanoid; HD 4d8+12; hp 32; Mas 16; Init +4; Spd 40 ft.; Defense 16, touch 14, flat-footed 12 (+4 Dex, +2 natural); BAB +4; Grap +7; Atk +8 ranged (1d3+3, stone) or +9 ranged (1d8+3, spear); Full atk +8 melee (1d4+3, 2 claws) or +8 melee (1d8+4, spear); FS 5 ft. by 5 ft.; Reach 5 ft.; SQ: Natural weapons, Skill bonus; AL Guardians; SV Fort +4, Ref +8, Will +5, AP 0; Rep +0; Str 16; Dex 18; Con 16; Int 12; Wis 12; Cha 6. Skills: Balance +8, Climb +7, Hide +15, Move Silently +15, Survival +9, Tumble +10. Feats: Far Shot, Weapon Finesse (claws), Weapon Focus (claws). Possessions: Stones and spear. Advanced Large Creature CR Y; Large monstrous humanoid; HD 8d8+40; hp 80; Mas 20; Init +7; Spd 40 ft.; Defense 16, touch 12, flat-footed 13 (-1 size, +3 Dex, +4 natural); BAB +8; Grap +19; Atk +10 ranged (1d3+7, stone) or +14; Full atk +15 melee (1d6+7, 2 claws); FS 10 ft. by 10 ft.; Reach 10 ft.; SQ: Natural weapons, Skill bonus; AL Guardians; SV Fort +7, Ref +9, Will +7, AP 0; Rep +0; Str 24; Dex 16; Con 20; Int 12; Wis 12; Cha 6. Skills: Balance +9, Climb +13, Hide +12, Move Silently +16, Survival +13, Tumble +9. Feats: Improved Bull Rush, Improved Initiative, Power Attack, Weapon Focus (claws). Possessions: Stones and claws. -DF
#2 roadrunner_ex Jun 08, 2009 17:53:16	Cr 5 for the 1st one and 9 for the 2nd
#3 DwarfFighter Jun 09, 2009 2:30:59	Thanks. I had them at the ballpark estimates of CR 4 and CR 8 respectively. -DF