You hang around here long enough and you get used to stuff like bad links, no updates, no product, no playtesting/editing, no official erratta
:raincloud it's not the same as having Sith around
Yeah it is, the only difference is the temper tantrums and name-calling is being done by people other than the WizO.
oh snap!
Crackle pop, rice krispies!
Crackle pop, rice krispies!
We're not allowed to mention that IP on these forums. Kelloggs is really stingy about copywrite, especially when it comes to their Krisps material.
Hey Backstabbist, uh, guns suck! Grrr!
We do seem to get a flurry of activity after a flame war.
Hey Backstabbist, uh, guns suck! Grrr!
the f 5-7 is stated correctly so bite me:P
Oh, I get it.
You guys are just trying to see who can get my head to explode.
.Oh, I get it.
You guys are just trying to see who can get my head to explode.
Is it working? Because I was thinking that we could take a stroll through the Gadgets section of d20 Future and see what horrible, horrible things one would have to do to a Desert Eagle to make in deal 16d8 damage. You know, the correct amount of damage a typical nuclear warhead deals. Double bonus if we can add a katana bayonet that would do the same thing.
Not that it would matter, your average leather jacket can deflect the whole thing. Tunnel Snakes rule!
1. Take the main cannon from a M1A2 Abrams tank, add Compact and Miniaturized gadgets to make it about the size of a 9mm pistol (small). Then, add the extended range, improved hitting power, and collapsible gadgets.
2. Get ammo with extended range and improved stopping power.
You know have a small hangun that can crank out 12d12 points of damage with a range of over two miles (12,000').
You can hide it under your shirt and even if a guard finds it they'd have to pass a DC 17 Knoweldge: technology check to know its a weapon and not your lucky collection of metal bits.
Size: small
Damge: 12d12
Range Increment: 1200'
Magazine: 1 internal
Throw in the Quick Reload and Far Shot feats for even more fun.
For extra credit, try to convince your DM to let you put a suppressor on it.
Of course, I really want somebody to stat the superlaser from the Death Star. Why? Well, since even the most massive objects in any d20 game would be colosal, miniaturizing and compacting it would make it large. (colosal >gargantuan >huge > large).
Just the right size the slip under a trench coat.
Crazy enough?
Does Point The First address Point The Second? I haven't bothered reading all of Future because every person I talk to says "don't bother," so forgive me if this is a stupid question.
PS: for Phoenix, I invented a new size category, "ginormous." Not Death-Star sized, but still bigger than colossal.
I have a question. I've seen the Gadget system from d20F mocked a lot for it's infinite breakability. I've also seen d20F mocked for its supposedly underpowered damage curve, basically that futuristic weapons should do a lot more damage than they do.
Does Point The First address Point The Second? I haven't bothered reading all of Future because every person I talk to says "don't bother," so forgive me if this is a stupid question.
Actually no, it breaks the logic even further.
Applying gadgets to modern weapons will make them vastly more powerful than any future weapon... so why is anyone even bothering to make the future weapons? Why are they not focusing their efforts on making 12d12 guns that can shoot 2 miles without a penalty cheaper when they clearly have the technology? Technology improves exponentially, so why is it taking a step back here?
Applying gadgets to modern weapons will make them vastly more powerful than any future weapon... so why is anyone even bothering to make the future weapons? Why are they not focusing their efforts on making 12d12 guns that can shoot 2 miles without a penalty cheaper when they clearly have the technology? Technology improves exponentially, so why is it taking a step back here?
I would think that applying Gadgets is, in effect, how you get future weapons, no? I mean, take a Saturday Night Special and add gadgets like (making this up because I haven't read Future): energy-based, miniaturised, and extended range. Voila, we've just built a phaser. Now Star Fleet just outfits all its people with that Gadgetted-up sidearm. At least, that's the concept as I see it. But like I said, I'm trying to understand the problem, not argue that that problem doesn't exist!